Minutes 01-09-84MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING HELD AT CITY HALL,
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, MONDAY, JANUARY 9, 1984 AT 7:00 P. M.
PRESENT
Vernon Thompson, Chairman
George Ampol, Vice Chairman
Robert Gordon, Secretary
George Mearns
Joseph Moore
Paul Slavin
Harold Weinberg
Lillian Artis, Alternate
Leo Grossbard, Alternate
Bert Keehr,
Deputy Building Official
Chairman Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:02 P. M.
He introduced the Deputy Building Official, Board Members,
and Recording Secretary. Chairman Thompson recognized the
presence in the audience of Mayor James R. Warnke, Vice
Mayor Carl Zimmerman, Councilman Nick Cassandra, and Council-
man Joe deLong.
MINUTES OF DECEMBER 12, 1983
Mr. Ampol moved to accept the minutes as received, seconded
by Mr. Mearns. Motion carried 7-0.
PUBLIC HEARING
Since the full Board was present tonight, Chairman Thompson
announced that the Alternates would take part in the discus-
sion but would not vote. Out.of the seven members, it will
take five members to approve the request. Any three will
deny the request. Chairman Thompson read the six criteria
on which the Board Members base their decision.
Case #48 - Lot 43, Block 4, LAKE ADDITION TO BOYNTON
Recorded in Plat Book 11, Page 71
Palm Beach County Records
Request - Relief from 60 ft. lot frontage require-
ment to be reduced to 50 ft. lot frontage and
relief from 7,500 sq. ft. lot area requirement to
be reduced to 6,625 sq. ft. lot area to construct
single family residence
Address - 729 N. E. 8th Avenue
Applicant - Beverly Bottosto
Secretary Gordon read the application. Chairman Thompson
asked if anyone was present to represent the applicant.
Beverly Bottosto, 478 Wayman Circle, West Palm Beach,
Florida 33406 was asking for a variance because she is an
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Interior Designer in Delray Beach but presently lives with
her family in West Palm Beach, near Wellington, which is
about a 45 minute drive. Miss Bottosto wants to build a
small home for herself.
Miss Bottosto informed Mr. Ampol that she is single and will
move into the home herself. She confirmed Mr. Mearns' state-
ment that she purchased the lot in November, 1983. In the
Building Department.s plats, Mr. Slavin questioned if this
lot has always been a 50 foot lot or a part of another lot.
Mr. Keehr replied that it has always been a 50 foot lot.
Chairman Thompson added that at least 95% or 97% of the lots
were platted at 50 feet and some at 45 feet, depending on
where they were located.
Mr. Ampol noted that the zoning in that area was changed in
June, 1975. Mr. Keehr advised that the actual R1A stayed
the same, but the size of the lot etc. increased.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone wished to speak in favor
of granting the variance.
Bob Brown, 701 South Seacrest Boulevard, purchased a lot
around and close to the same area and received a variance.
In the mail, he received a notice to make a statement of
whether he was for or against it, and since he is just down
the street, Mr. Brown figured he would come down and speak
in favor of the variance. As far as he was concerned, it will
be no problem on his part.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone else wished to speak in
favor of the proposed variance. There was no response.
Mr. Ampol observed a drawing of the proposed home. To.him,
it looked better than an empty lot.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone wanted to speak against
granting the variance.
Adele. Nicholar, 721 N. E. 8th Avenue, Boynton Beach, said
the lot adjoins her property. There were three 50 foot lots
a few years back. One was owned by one person, and two 50
foot lots were owned by another person. The man with the
one 50 foot lot came in here a few years ago, said it was a
hardship and that he had offered to buy some of the land
from the man that owns the 100 feet and couldn't get it, so
he asked for a variance. This Board said it was a hardship
and asked what he could do with 50 feet, so they let him
have it. Ms. Nicholar said the property owners backed down
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because it is true, if you only have 50 feet, what can you
do. She emphasized that the lot has been standing empty,
and she didn't know how many times it has been sold. Nothing
has ever been done. Ms. Nicholar recalled that the man
showed pictures of a house he was going to build and she
assumed it was done really to gain money by selling the lot.
Without the variance, the man could not have sold the lot.
Ms. Nicholar continued that this party perhaps bought one
lot or perhaps his daughter is buying one lot, but they
always felt as long as the man had the two lots, he had the
amount of property to build the house without a variance.
If this man now sells 50 feet of his 100 feet to Miss
Bottosto and the City allows her to go ahead and build a
house on 50 feet, people will then come before the Board in
a short time and say, "Here I am with only 50 feet left.
Now give me a variance.,, Ms. Nicholar said they will wind
up with three houses where, normally, there should only have
been two; in fact, really only one.
Ms. Nicholar informed the Board that the first man got a
variance; the second party is getting a variance, and a
third party. When a party has 100 feet, Ms. Nicholar felt
there was no hardship involved. The 100 feet should be used
to build the house. Most of the houses there have 60, 75
or 100 feet frontage. There are very few houses with 50 feet
frontage on that street.
George Nicholar, 711 N. E. 8th Avenue, Boynton Beach, has a
lot that measures 85x100 and felt the same as Ms. Nicholar.
Where the property owners thought there was going to be one
or perhaps two homes, it now looks like there will be three
homes. That was his objection.
Chairman Thompson determined no one else wished to speak
against granting the variance.
Secretary Gordon read the following correspondence addressed
to Betty Boroni, City Clerk, expressing approval of the
granting of the variance:
1. Letter dated January 4, 1984 from Rose Marcellino, the
owner of several lots located on 7th Avenue.
2. Letter from Salvatore Gatto, owner of a piece of land
located on 7th Avenue, dated January 4, 1984.
3. Letter dated January 4, 1984 from Nicholas Gatto, owner
of a lot on 7th Avenue.
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4. Letter from Waldemar Pflepsen and Sue Pflepsen, owners
of a piece of property on 7th Avenue.
Secretary Gordon then read a letter from Daniel E. Magnus
and Frances E. Magnus, dated December 28, 1983, addressed
to Betty S. Boroni, City Clerk, advising the Board to deny
the application.
Mr. Slavin thought a letter from Eva Simond, addressed to
Miss Bottosto, should also be read into the record. Secre-
tary Gordon read:
"At this time, I wouldn,t be interested in selling
my lot, as I am hopeful I will be able to build a
home on it in the near future.
Thank you for your interest.,,
In looking at the survey of the area, Chairman Thompson
found most of the lots were 50 feet and a few were 40 some
feet. The ones near U. S. 1 would come up with 60 or 65
feet. Chairman Thompson did find people owning 1-1/2 or
two lots in the area, which either made it 75 or 100 foot
frontage. Mr. Keehr affirmed that was correct and said the
majority of the lots are 50 feet except at the end of the
blocks where they have to be split up. This particular Lot
43 is the west lot of three vacant lots.
Mr Mearns asked what lot Eva Simond owned that Miss Bottosto
attempted to buy and Ms. Simond was not interested in sell-
ing. Chairman Thompson believed it was Lot 44 (right next
to it). As our most recent tax books indicate, Mr. Keehr
advised that Lots 43 and 44 are owned by C. W. and Mary
Fleming. However, our tax books are almost a year old now,
so both of those lots could have been sold in the meantime.
Chairman Thompson commented that Miss Bottosto bought Lot
43 from the Flemings in November.
If an original owner wanted to build on a 50 foot lot before
the new Zoning Codes came in, Mr. Slavin asked if it would
be an automatic thing. Mr. Keehr answered, "Yes." Mr.
Slavin determined that, in effect, .there would be two more
homes built regardless.
If the owner of Lots 43 and 44 presently owned those two
lots, Chairman Thompson questioned whether they would be
required to split them up or if they would have to own three
or more lots before being required to split them up. Mr.
Keehr confirmed that you have to own three or more lots and
then you are forced to split them up. If the Flemings owned
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it prior to March of 1978, two places could have been built
on each lot (Lots 43 and 44).
Mr. Slavin moved to grant the variance to Miss Bottosto for
the following reasons:
It was originally platted as 50 feet. As stated by Mr.
Keehr, if the original owner wanted to build a home there,
there is no way he could have been stopped regardless of
the new zoning codes.
There is documentary proof that an attempt was made to
buy the lots or a lot owned by Eva Simond.
Mr. Slavin did not think there was any subterfuge here, as
an effort was made to conform to all laws and codes.
Mr. Weinberg seconded the motion. At the request of Chair-
man Thompson, Mrs. Ramseyer took a roll call vote:
Mr. Mearns - Aye
Mr. Weinberg _ Aye
Mr· Ampol _ Aye
Chairman Thompson - Aye
Mr. Gordon - Aye
Mr. Slavin -. Aye
Mr. Moore _ Aye
Motion carried 7-0 in favor of granting the request.
Case 949 - Recreation Area designated in REPLAT OF GOLFVIEW
HARBOUR ESTATES
Recorded in Plat Book 46, Pages 142, 143 & 144,
Palm Beach County Records
Request - Relief from zoning regulations, Section
ll-H, requiring 22 off-street parking spaces for
the recreational area with the request that no
parking spaces be required at the recreational
building and pool
Address - 1477 S. W. 25th Place
Applicant - Norman J. Michael, President
Milnor Corporation
Secretary Gordon read the application and the letter from
Norman J. Michael, President, Milnor Corporation, which was
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addressed to the Chairman, Board of Adjustment, Building
Department, dated November 3, 1983.
Norman j. Michael, President, Milnor Corporation, 1400 S. W.
27th Avenue, Boynton Beach, FlOrida 33435, referred to his
lettero As stated in their letter, Mr. Michael said they
designed the subdivision to accommodate certain recreational
areas. In selling these various units over the past several
months, they had not been able to generate sales among the
younger people having families. Therefore, they designed a
small recreational building and a pool (25x40) for the pur-
pose of the adults presently living and purchasing their
villa and townhouse units.
When they went in to aSk for a change in the recreational
facilities and the recreational replat was approved, Mr.
Michael told the Board Members nothing was said to them
about the parking. When they went to pick up the permits,
they were then told that parking was a requirement. Mr.
Michael could not understand because they went in, picked up
the Ordinance on parking, and could see nothing in the
Ordinance. Evidently, this was not an updated version of
the Ordinance, and it had nothing about requirements for
recreational facilities.
Mr. Michael stressed that this is not a public facility but
rather a private facility. It is designed merely for those
people who have bought and live in that particular subdivi-
sion. Mr. Michael said they are building in that section
128 villas and townhouses. Some homeowners were present
this evening, and Mr. Michael stated they are quite anxious
to have this facility under construction. They were hoping
the Board would grant the variance due to the fact that it
is private and is not designed to have any public facilities
whatsoever.
Mr. Weinberg asked what the recreation building consists of.
Mr. Michael answered that it is small (approximately 24x47)
and will have bathrooms, facilities for both men and women,
storage room, equipment room for the pool, and an enclosed
area that will facilitate meetings
homeowners. Mr. Ampol informed Mr and gatherings of the
. . Weinberg the "enclosed
area would be like an assembly room. Mr. Michael confirmed
that was correct and said it is primarily designed for maybe
card playing or a meeting room of the Directors. It is not
made to accommodate any more than 30 or 40 people at the
most.
As stated in their letter, Mr. Michael said they had
positioned the recreational facility to allow anybody within
their subdivision to .walk to a facility.
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Mr. Mearns noted paragraph (e) of Mr. Michael's letter says
they intend to build a recreational building. He questioned
whether Mr. Michael,s intent was based upon his getting
approval to not have 22 parking spaces, Which would make
more ground available for building the villas. Mr. Michaels
answered, "No sir." He said the permits are ready to be
picked up. They had the plans for the "rec" building
approved, and the permit has been issued. The pool has
already been approved by the Board of Health, and the permit
is ready to be picked up.
When they went to pick up the permits to start construction,
Mr. Michael said that was when they were told about the
parking. If they are granted the variance, Mr. Michael
assured the Members that tomorrow morning the permits will
be pulled. He said they have already dug the footer for the
recreational building, and it is just lying there, and they
cannot proceed.
Mr. Ampol determined that the recreation building is strictly
for the homeowners and their guests, not the public.
The deed to the property was in 1975. In 1975, Mr. Slavin
asked if parking spaces were needed in order to construct a
recreational building. Mr. Keehr replied, "No." Mr. Slavin
wanted to know when it was amended. Mr. Keehr answered that
the change was in March of 1982.
According to a building of that size, "X" amount of parking
spaces are required, but Mr. Keehr informed Mr. Slavin it
was not based on the size of the structure. It is based on
the number of dwellings within a certain radius. Mr. Keehr
thought Mr. Michael was correct in his statement that there
was no parking required for a recreational building when he
built his first one. However, he did not think Mr. Michael
had the up-to-date Ordinance passed in 1982, which requires
parking for a recreational building, and he did not believe
Mr. Michael was familiar with that on his submittal.
If Mr. Michael did away with the meeting room or card room
and just had bathroom facilities, a dressing room, and storage
room, Mr. Slavin wondered if he would be required to have
parking spaces. Mr. Keehr answered, "No, then you would
have a pool with bathrooms which would require different
regulations for parking.,, Pools are another item that do
require parking.
Mr. Keehr said this particular site tabulated down to 22
parking spaces. Mr. Michael's other "rec" building would
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probably even require more parking under today's new Ordi-
nance. Mr. Keehr advised that Mr. Michael has no other
violations and nothing else would stop him from building.
Mr. Michael added that their subdivision was approved in
total much earlier than when the new regulations came into
effect. In fact, it was approved in the early part of 1981.
He reiterated that they were unaware that the parking require-
ments had changed. Not being a Public facility and being
in walking distance, Mr. Michael thought there was merit in
his petition before the Board.
When the replat of Golfview Harbour was recorded in September
of this year, Mr. Keehr told the Board it showed an area for
the "rec". During that replatting, Mr. Michael was not
informed of any additional parking requirements because it
did not come up. Mr. Keehr added that it would not come up
at that time.
Mr. Ampol noted that Mr. Michael and his wife took title to
the property in November of 1975.
The Recording Secretary presented a survey, and Mr. Michael
showed site plans to the Members.
In designing the facility, Mr. Michael wanted to make it
less upkeep and less of a burden on the people as far as
expenses because maintenance costs get out of hand and sky-
rocket.
Mr. Gordon noted Mr. Michael stated this particular area is
approximately 400 yards from the homeowners. That is the
length of four football fields. Mr. Gordon asked if all of
the homeowners could make that 400 yards. Mr. Michael
clarified that the furtherest away would be 400 yards.
Chairman Thompson asked about sidewalks. Mr. Michael
informed him that they have walks on all public roads. On
S. W. 25th Place, they are installing sidewalks. On S. W.
14th Street, there are sidewalks. As they go, Mr. Michael
said they put the walks in, so the walks are there. Some of
them are not in because they have not constructed those
units.
Mr. Slavin recalled Mr. Michael said he had dug the footings
for the clubhouse. The pool area has not been touched. Mr.
Slavin thought the architect could redesign the area to give
him the necessary parking spaces. Mr. Michael advised that
it is impossible to get 22 spaces in there. They just do
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not have the space. The average parking space is 9x18 or
10x20, which is 200 square feet x 22 x 20.
In previous recreational facilities, Mr. Michael said it has
been their experience when they are built and completed and
the homeowners begin to use them that after the second or
third year, the activity around the recreational areas
begins to drop off. The only people who use the pool and
recreational facilities are guests and possibly the home-
owners during the summer months and maybe a few times in the
winter months.
Mr. Michael really thought the relief they were seeking was
justifiable when you are looking ahead two or three years
from now. Also, it is not necessary when you are that close
in walking distance. Mr. Michael reiterated that they are
still dealing with a private facility. It is not public.
With the fencing and the way it is situated in that corner,
Mr. Michael emphasized that it will be private.
Mr. John Bishel, 1468 S. W. 25th Place, is in the same
building that Mr. Michael has his model home and sales
office in. Mr. Bishel's property is directly across the
street from where the pool and clubhouse is projected.
When he looked at the plot Mr. Michael has in his sales room
eight months ago, Mr. Bishel bought his home on the basis
that the clubhouse would be there and he and his guests could
use the pool.
Another thing he liked about it was between 25th Place and
27th Avenue on Congress, it is completely walled. From 25th
Place to 23rd Avenue, it is walled to the canal so, with the
exception of 27th Avenue and 25th Avenue entering the project,
those are the only two places to get into it.
Mr. Bishel referred to the pool that was constructed where
the townhouses are and said it is fenced in and landscaped.
You can drive by it and not know it is there. Mr. Bishel
was told that was what he would get when he bought the
property. He referred to sidewalks which are in the pro-
ject.
Mr. BiShel thought the amount of people who would have to go
a long distance to get to the pool was overestimated and
said it was like three city blocks or three 1010 foot blocks.
Mr. Bishel referred to a complex he lived in at Pompano
Beach where they had no parking whatsoever. He talked about
security, people getting to the pool, and said he could not see
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any need for the parking areas and thought it would bring
more problems instead of helping the area.
Mr. Ampol asked if Mr. Bishel was for or against the variance.
Mr. Bishel was in favor of the variance.
Mr. Weinberg asked if the Board had jurisdiction to eliminate'
an entire parking area. This is an entire new Ordinance,
and Mr. Weinberg questioned whether the Board had the
authority to do away with 22 parking spaces. He could see
reducing the number of spaces to 16 or 18 but wondered if
the Board had the right to do away with the entire parking
area. Mr. Keehr believed the Board would have the right if
they would find the applicant in line with the reasons
required to grant a variance.
Margaret Stafford, 1441 S. W. 26th Avenue, Boynton Beach,
has a son that is in a wheelchair. He gets all over the
place. Mrs. Stafford was sure they did not need the parking
for all the trouble it would probably cause and hoped they
could do without the parking.
Bernard H. Kahn, who lives next door to Mrs. Stafford,
confirmed that Mrs. Stafford has a son that is in a wheel-
chair and everyone would be amazed to see how he gets around.
Mrs. Stafford's son gets to the pool site with no trouble.
Mr. Kahn was also in favor of Mr. Michael's request for an
exception because he did not feel they need the parking
space. He thought it would be an unwanted and unnecessary
headache. When Mr. Kahn bought his apartment, he too was
told there would be a recreation facility and a pool, and
he is anxiously awaiting them so they will be open, particu-
larly in light of the new construction that will be going
on at Boynton's beach.
Mr. Richard Drummond, 1425 S. W. 25th Avenue, Villa A, Boynton
Beach, wanted to support Mr. Michael in his request. Mr.
Drummond referred to kids running around in cars in Golfview
Harbour and expressed that he thought this was one place
where they will end up parking. He was not in favor of the
parking. Other people will be coming in, parking their cars,
and using the pool area. Mr. Drummond thought a short distance
walk to the pool was not out of reason.
Elizabeth Cook, 1468 S. W. 48th Street, Boynton Beach, lives
across the street and is against the parking area. She was
sure it would give them a lot of hardships.
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Mr. Joe Villari, 1425 S. W. 25th Avenue, Apt. 29-C, moved to
Boynton Beach from Boca Raton and was told they would have a
beautiful facility for swimming, etc. Today he was told
this parking matter was presented to Mr. Michael and that it
would hold up everything that was planned without Mr. Michael
having known about it. Mr. Vellari definitely thought it
was a long hesitation in getting the work done and wished
the Board would pass the variance.
Mr. Steve Argelavin, 1427 S. W. 25th Street, Apt. No. 7,
Boynton Beach, felt like the rest of his neighbors. They
really do not want the parking and figure they would rather
have the green grass around the pool, which would be more
enjoyable. In fact, Mr. Argelavin lives at the one end and
would appreciate walking to the pool rather than driving.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone else wished to speak in
favor of granting the variance. There was no response.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone wished to speak against
the granting of the variance. There was no response.
Secretary Gordon advised there were no communications.
Mr. Mearns felt there had to be some reason for the adoption
of this in the Code and wanted to know what the basic reasons
were. Mr. Keehr had discussed it several times with the City
Planner and told the Members the City's Parking Ordinance
prior to this left a lot of situations out and there were no
guidelines for certain occupations. Recreation facilities
happened to be one. Mr. Keehr explained that recreation
facilities were not a requirement of the City in condominium
projects such as this until four or five years ago. A cond°-
minium was built without it, and they found there were hard-
ships with the Association there.
Consequently, after it was adopted by Council that these
condominium associations have a place to meet, Mr. Keehr said
they naturally figured that they have to have a place to park.
Mr. Keehr felt there was some justification when Mr. Michael
spoke of homeowners not wanting parking spaces because of a
nuisance factor. He could also appreciate the fact that
when the initial plat was laid out, the rule given for the
recreation facility did not take into account the space
required or the amount of parking spaces. Mr. Keehr
informed everyone that a parking space takes more than a
9x20 because it takes that and another 9x20 to back out.
You actually need 45 feet by 9 feet wide for each parking
space. It takes a lot of room.
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What concerned Chairman Thompson was they were hearing from
the present owners, which was a small figure compared to the
overall, total population of the area. He took into consider-
ation that even they too will get older. Chairman Thompson
viewed several projects of this type and they all had parking
areas for the same type of facility. He thought they played
an important Part.
Chairman Thompson again referred to sidewalks and noted one
gentleman said the sidewalk was in front of his house but
Chairman Thompson said it leads from the parking lot into
his house, not along the street. On 25th Street, in the same
area, there is a new building where there is no space for
parking~ and also in the northeast corner of this project.
Perhaps they will build a sidewalk, but Chairman Thompson
commented that it will probably be right on the street
because there certainly would not be room in the yard. Mr.
Keehr advised that every pUblic right-of-way must have a
sidewalk. Chairman Thompson understood that it would
probably come later, after they complete the whole project.
In looking over the overall picture, Chairman Thompson felt
it might eliminate all parking lots. There was no question
that the Board had the power to eliminate the parking lot
but Chairman Thompson asked if they would be setting a
precedent.
Mr. Slavin asked who usually submits a replat and whether it
is a developer or architect. Mr. Keehr answered that it is
an engineer, who is generally guided by the owner.
Mr. Slavin referred to paragraph "c" of the letter from the
applicant which reads, special privilege would be conferred
"No
upon us by the granting of this Variance,,, and expressed
that was all wrong. He did not.think there was any place in
the City that has been built in the last five years that has
no parking facilities. He admitted people have come in to
ask for variances where they want to cut back from 6 or 7 to
5 or 4. Mr. Slavin felt this was a flagrant violation of
an Ordinance or law and said Mr Michael has guidelines to
go by. ·
Mr. Weinberg was concerned as to whether the people here
tonight constituted a very small portion of the people who
reside in the entire complex. He questioned what happens
when a lot of these people may not be able to walk that
distance and the use of their cars may become necessary.
Mr. Weinberg referred to his own physical condition and said
if you eliminate the parking spaces, you can eliminate the
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possibility of somebody berg able to get to the pool for
therapy, which constitutes a hardship.
In the event the Board acts in favor of the variance, Mr.
Mearns asked if Mr. Michael would still build the pool and
the clubhouse. Mr. Michael answered, "Immediately. I will
pick up the permits tomorrow morning. If you act unfavor-
ably, we are not going to build it. We cannot provide 22
spaces in the land area that we have designated for this
recreational facility. You do not understand. It is the
people's choice." Of the 37 villas that have been sold and
occupied, Mr. Michael stressed that he could have had a
petition before the Board signed by 100% of those people.
Mr. Slavin made a suggestion that the matter be tabled so
Mr. Michael could take another look at his property and talk
to his architects and engineers. He reiterated statements
made by him before.
Legally, Chairman Thompson said the Board could not table
but had to act one way or the Other. He advised that the
Members had to act on the facts before them and not try to
make conditions.
If Mr. Michael's request was turned down, Mr. Weinberg
wondered if that would prohibit him from coming back in the
future. Chairman Thompson replied, "No. In fact, he can
come back for the same request."
In order to get a vote, Mr. Weinberg moved to grant the
variance. The motion died for lack of a second.
Mr. Slavin moved that the variance not be granted, seconded
by Mr. Weinberg. A roll call vote on the motion was taken
by Mrs. Ramseyer:
Mr. Weinberg _ Aye
Mr. Ampol - Aye
Chairman Thompson - Aye
Mr. Gordon - Aye
Mr. Slavin - Aye
Mr. Moore - Aye
Mr. Mearns - Aye
Motion carried 7-0. The request for variance was DENIED.
A RECESS WAS TAKEN AT 8:35 P. M.
The meeting resumed at 8:40 P. M.
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Case #50 - Lots 16-22, WESTCHESTER HEIGHTS
Recorded in Plat Book 24, Page 210
Palm Beach County Records
Appeal from Administrative Decision
re Seca. 6-A-3 and 4-F-2
Location - Seacrest Blvd., between S. W. 23rd
and S. W. 25th Avenues, West Side
Project Description - The Professional Club -
30,978 sq. ft. office building
Applicant - Pyramis Development Corporation
(Digby Bridges & Associates Inc. for Gordon
Ripma, Agent) '
Mr. Keehr explained to the Members that this case happens to
be similar to a case they heard relating to whether a swimming
pool is a structure or not. What the applicant is doing is
appealing the Building Department,s interpretation of a
certain zoning ordinance. This one happens to deal with the
height of a structure and what really represents the height.
Mr. Keehr gave the Members copies of parts of the Ordinance
relating to this particular appeal.
In an instance where there is an exception to the height
limitation, Mr Keehr said they call out these particular
instances that could be overlooked such as water and cooling
and fire towers, radio and television towers of a commercial
nature, church spirals, domes, cupolas, flag poles, electri-
cal and mechanical support systems, and similar structures.
The applicant maintains that he is building a parapet wall
on the top of this structure to hide a mechanical apparatus,
which Mr. Keehr confirmed is a true fact. The fact that
this particular parapet wall is right out to the edge of the
building gives it, to the minds of the Building Department,
a vision of the building being higher. It is a matter of
the building being 30 feet plus 3 or 4 foot of structure to
obstruct the view of the mechanical apparatus from the
street.
Mr. Keehr said it will look like the bui
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to them and show them what he has, the Members will have to
make the determination as to whether they think the Build-
ing Department is right in its interpretation or that the
applicant has reason to expect this exception.
Reference was made to previous cases that had been before
the board.
Secretary Gordon read paragraph 1, under "B.
DUTIES" of the Board of Adjustment.
POWERS AND
Mr. Digby Bridges, Architect, Digby Bridges & Associates,
P.A., 124 N. E. 5th Avenue, Delray Beach, Florida 33444,
came forward to represent Pyramis Development Corporation.
As Mr. Keehr said, Mr. Bridges agreed this is a violation of
the Code. However, they feel there is a contradiction in
the Code (the fact of the mechanical and all of the equipment
that can go up on the buildings). Mr. Bridges stated they
also feel the contradiction in the Code is detrimental to
good design.
In designing the building, Mr. Bridges said they'have taken
a parapet and used that as a screeen. They are not enclos-
ing actual space of the building or asking for the enclosed
space of the building to be any higher. The screen is
actually a couple of inches shy of the top of the City's
permitted height.
Mr. Bridges told the Members they had a big decision to
make because he felt if they grant him this, it will become
Code. He also felt that the Planning and Zoning Board and
the Community Appearance Board would be in favor of something
like this. Mr. Bridges emphasized that he was not asking
for a large building per se. All he was asking for was a
method to screen and interpreting the City's method, as laid
down, in which way to screen.
Mr. Bridges said he would show the Members he is actually
curbing the parapet back and has not put it directly in
front. Also, in his opinion, 4 feet is well spent in getting
a nice finish to the top of a building. Mr. Bridges did not
think flat roofs with equipment on top were very attractive
and said putting this parapet up would allow the entire
mechanics to be hidden.
Mr. Bridges presented an overlay which showed the building
and showed that the parapet gives a nice cap to the building.
He emphasized that it is not within the volume of the build-
ing. Mr. Bridges said it is a prestige building, an expen-
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sive bUilding, and not a cheap building. The parapet is
expensive, and he showed the shape of it.
Mr. Bridges knew of no other Code that he has dealt with in
Palm Beach County that does not count the height of the
building from the grade established at ground level to the
top of the roofing membrane. In some cases, Mr. Bridges
said they say you can count halfway between the top slab but
he always counts to the top of the roofing membrane which,
to him, is the top of the building, and is the way Delray
Beach, Highland Beach, Boca Raton, and Palm Beach do. Any-
thing above that is only going to restrict the height.
Boca Raton has the restriction that a parapet can be no more
than 4 feet, but it must hide all of your mechanical equip-
ment. Mr. Bridges felt the parapet could be interpreted as
the screening that has been put forward rather than just'
screening around every little box. He informed Chairman
Thompson the height of the parapet is 4 feet. The standard
height of a parapet is between 4 and 6 feet.
In the City, Chairman Thompson noted it is permitted to use
a screen to hide air-conditioning units, elevator shafts,
etc. He asked what the difference was. Mr. Keehr replied
that in most cases and in all cases up to this point, that
screening has been moved away from the front or edge of the
building back. That is the only difference.
Mr. Bridges pointed out that this is a much more expensive
way of doing it. He stated he would consider that good for
the City provided it is not anything but a parapet wall or
screen. In his opinion, all Mr. Bridges was trying to do
was give good design.
Chairman Thompson inquired what the approximate footage was
from the edge of the wall. Mr. Bridges replied he would say
it would be over 4 feet, or about 4'6". He assured Mr.
Weinberg that the parapet will hide all of the equipment.
Mr. Bridges said the elevator tower may go one foot higher.
There was discussion about the parapet and Mr. Bridges showed
it goes back exactly 4 foot and is a circle.
Prior to this, Mr. Keehr said they have considered screening
for mechanical equipment. He referred to page 1898 of the
Boynton Beach Code, "F. HEIGHT LIMITATIONS AND EXCEPTIONS,
2", and noted it said mechanical support systems and similar
structures. Mr. Keehr told the Members they construed
"simi~lar structures" to mean screening around these particular
apparatus and took it to the City Council under that situa-
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tion, He agreed there was room for interpretation. Members
of the Board commented there were gray areas.
Chairman Thompson noted the paragraph also said, "may be
erected within a structure or on top of the structure,
above the district height limitations provided . ,,
Mr. Bridges said that is why they have spoken abo~t it from
Planning, through the Community Appearance Board, and right
to the City Council. He reiterated that they feel there is
this gray area and it should be clarified one way or the
other. For the sake of good architecture, Mr. Bridges
thought it should be that it can go on the perimeter provided
it is a screen or a parapet, nothing else. Mr. Bridges
added that it would also give direction to the Building
Inspector in the future°
It was Chairman Thompson's opinion that this was much more
attractive than the other old type. Mr. Slavin observed
that the City Council unanimously approved it on November 15.
In considering the appeal and paragraph 3, pages 1898 and
1899, subparagraphs a through i, of the Boynton Beach Code,
Mr. Weinberg noticed there was nothing whereby the proposed
extension would be detrimental to anybody or anything. Mr.
Keehr
and some of the Members agreed. Mr. Keehr stated
those items are what the exceptions are based on and, to a
degree, it has more or less been through that.
One of Mr. Bridges' reasons for putting it back there was
that most of the housing is going to be up front because
today, it pays you to bring your pipes down from the housing
in the front of the building. You do not bring them down
in the middle, as they did in the old days. You want to
find the shortest runs to your air-conditioning as possible.
Today, they put it in the front or in the back.
Mr. Bridges also wanted the parapet argument that will allow
him the freedom to put the units where he wants to, having it
straight and direct down to the air-conditioning units' foot-
age about 18 inches to let the air get around, He explained
what he would do about the air-conditioning.
Mr. Slavin began to read from the excerpt of the Minutes of
the City Council's Meeting of November 15, 1983. Mr. Keehr
interrupted to advise that this Board makes the interpreta-
tion of whether this plan fits the category of additional
structures, as stated in paragraph 2. Mr. Bridges will pre-
sent that to the Planning and Zoning Board for their recom-
mendation to the City Council for the Council's approval.
Mr. Keehr added that it must meet all of the criteria on the
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secOnd page, and the City CoUncil will base its decision on
that and also somewhat on what the Planning and Zoning
Board recommends.
There was discussion about the elevator and height. Mr.
Gordon asked what would happen if the parapet was moved back
3 or 4 feet. Mr. Bridges thought it would be detrimental to
the design. He referred to Winn-Dixie with the parapet in
front and in the back of the building, you see all of the
junk. Mr. Bridges feels parapets should be put in back as
well to hide the equipment.
Mr. Slavin read from the Council Minutes that the Planning
and Zoning Board and Community Appearance Board believed
this shOuld be addressed. He further read, "What the appli-
cant is asking is not for a height exception for a parapet
wall as it must come down, but a height exception for
mechanical equipment only.', If he was going for a height
exception, Mr. Keehr explained Mr. Bridges would be coming
before the Board for a variance. He is requesting an
interpretation. Mr. Keehr reiterated that the Council
Minutes should not have any bearing on the decision of the
Board.
Mr. Weinberg moved that the request for a parapet be approved,
as submitted by Digby Bridges, Architect, seconded by Mr.
Ampol. A roll call vote on the motion was taken by Mrs.
Ramseyer:
Mr. Ampol
Chairman Thompson
Secretary Gordon
Mr. Slavin
Mr. Moore
Mr. Mearns
Mr. Weinberg
Motion carried 7-0 to grant the request.
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Ampol moved, seconded by Mr. Mearns to adjourn and the
meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.M. '
~spec~tf~ully submitted,
Patricia RamseYer'/7~
· RecOrding Secret'ary~
(Three Tapes)
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