Minutes 05-02-23 Minutes of the City Commission Meeting
Held Online Via the GoToWebinar Platform and
In-Person at the City Hall Commission Chambers
100 East Ocean Avenue, Boynton Beach, Florida
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023, at 5:00 P.M.
Present:
Mayor Ty Penserga Daniel Dugger City Manager
Vice Mayor Thomas Turkin Mike Cirullo, City Attorney
Commissioner Angela Cruz Maylee De Jesus, City Clerk
Commissioner Woodrow L. Hay
Commissioner Aimee Kelley
1. Agenda Items
A. Call to Order - Mayor Ty Penserga
Mayor Penserga called the meeting to order at 5:01 P.M.
Roll Call
City Clerk Maylee De Jesus called the roll. A quorum was present.
B. Closed Door Session
As publicly requested at the April 4, 2023, City Commission Meeting and in
accordance with Section 286.011(8) Florida Statutes, the City Commission will
hold a closed-door, private attorney-client session on Tuesday, May 2, 2023
beginning at 5:00 P.M. to discuss the following case:
Natalie Flake, Plaintiff, vs. City of Boynton Beach, Defendant - Palm Beach County
Circuit Court Case Number: 50-2021-CA-006932-XXXX-MB
In attendance will be the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager Daniel
Dugger, City Attorney Michael D. Cirullo, Jr., Special Litigation Counsel
Christopher Stearns, and a Court Reporter. Some participants may attend
telephonically or by communications media technology (CMT). Approximately 60
minutes will be needed.
City Attorney Cirullo read the title of the case into the record.
Motion:
Vice Mayor Turkin moved to recess for the Closed-Door Session. Commissioner Hay
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Mayor Penserga called for a recess for the Closed-Door Session at 5:04 P.M.
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Mayor Penserga reconvened the meeting at 5:25 P.M., and said that they will come back
for the regular Commission Meeting at 6:00 P.M.
C. Resume Regular Commission Meeting
Mayor Penserga reconvened the meeting at 6:00 P.M.
City Clerk Maylee De Jesus called the roll again. A quorum was present.
Invocation by Pastor Amalie Ash, First Presbyterian Church.
Invocation was given by Pastor Ash.
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag led by Mayor Ty Penserga.
Mayor Penserga led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Agenda Approval:
1. Additions, Deletions, Corrections
Daniel Dugger, City Manager, requested to add a discussion about workshop dates to the
agenda.
Commissioner Cruz requested to add a discussion about funding for the senior center to
the Budget Agenda.
Commissioner Cruz moved to approve the agenda, as amended. Commissioner Hay
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
2. Other
A. Informational items by the Members of the City Commission.
Informational items were heard before Public Audience.
3. Announcements, Community and Special Events And Presentations
A. Announce the Rosenwald School Commemorative Sign for Poinciana
Elementary School.
Announce the installation of the Rosenwald School commemorative sign for
Poinciana Elementary School scheduled for Friday May 12, 2023 at 4:00 P.M.
at Heritage Park.
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Mayor Penserga announced this event.
Michael Rumpf, Planner, provided a historical background about the Rosenwald School
commemorative sign.
B. Announce National Small Business Week
Announce that National Small Business Week is April 30- May 6, 2023.
Mayor Penserga announced this event, and encouraged everyone to use the small
businesses in the City.
C. Proclamation - Mental Health Awareness and Trauma Informed Care Month
Proclaim the month of May 2023 as Mental Health Awareness and Trauma
Informed Care Month. Proclamation to be received by Gerda Klein from the
Boynton Beach Mental Health Committee.
Mayor Penserga read the Proclamation into the record.
Commissioner Hay said that he is proud of the Boynton Beach Mental Health Committee
and the work that is being done. He acknowledged trauma that caretakers experience as
well.
Ms. Gerda Klein accepted the proclamation on behalf of the Boynton Beach Mental Health
Committee. She announced upcoming programs, new resources, and thanked the City for
their continued support.
D. Recognize Boynton Beach PAL.
Recognizing the Boynton Beach PAL for taking home the Gold in the Necelina
McDonald Memorial Foundation Basketball Tournament in Brooklyn, NY.
City Manager Dugger provided background on the Boynton Beach Police Athletic League
(PAL).
Mr. Bill Tome, former Boynton Beach Police Officer, thanked the City and Chief DeGiulio
for their support. He summarized the Necelina McDonald Memorial Foundation Basketball
Tournament experience.
Mayor Penserga recognized the Boynton Beach PAL for taking home the gold in the
Necelina McDonald Memorial Foundation Basketball Tournament.
City Clerk De Jesus read the names of the Boynton Beach PAL team.
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2. Other
A. Informational items by the Members of the City Commission.
Commissioner Kelley thanked the City staff for the Earth Day event and asked for feedback
since the event seemed to be better attended last year. She mentioned that she attended
the Boynton Beach Fire Fighter Chili Cookoff and had a good time.
Commissioner Hay had no disclosures, and said that he attended the Anchor special
meeting today. He also attended the Raising Cane grand opening. He requested to talk
with Legal about the SJ Project that he previously brought up for discussion.
City Attorney Cirullo said that he will speak with Commissioner Hay and provide an update
on the case.
Vice Mayor Turkin said that he attended the Chili Cookoff and Fishing Tournament and said
that it was a great event. He gave a shout out to the Events and Marketing teams, and
administration for all that they do. He said that he attended the Palm Beach County League
of Cities meeting last week and announced that he will be representing Boynton Beach and
was appointed to the Board of Directors. He noted that he also attended the Raising Cane
opening as well, and it was a great turn out. He thanked Andrew Mack and Adam Temple
for getting on the lift station and getting the problem resolved. He thanked staff that helped
the resident who were affected by the tornado. He requested a future budget item
discussion for staff to look at broadening the exemption for the fire assessment.
Mayor Penserga said that they can discuss this during the budget workshop.
Commissioner Cruz stated that she attended the Earth Day Celebration, the Chili Cookoff
and Fishing Tournament, and the Raising Cane grand opening. She said that the Hispanic
Chamber of Commerce and other entities were in attendance. She spoke about an incident
that happened in her district, where a mom was bit by a dog while walking her baby, and
she is working with the Police to see what they can do to make it safer to walk.
Mayor Penserga said that he is still recuperating from being sick. He thanked staff for their
hard work at the City Hall Social and spoke about its purpose. He thanked Palm Beach
State College for attending and their workforce readiness program that they are teaming
up with the City for. He said that it is a pilot program and he hopes that it will help change
peoples' lives.
4. Public Audience
Individual Speakers Will Be Limited To 3 Minute Presentations (at the discretion of
the Chair, this 3-minute allowance may need to be adjusted depending on the level
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of business coming before the City Commission)
No public audience in person. No public audience online.
5. Administrative
Ms. Radigan, Planning and Zoning Director, asked to schedule the workshops for the
park impact fee study, mobility study, and live local and housing. She said that the
park impact fee is being proposed to be raised above the statute threshold, which is
called an extraordinary circumstance. She said they are required to hold a public
workshop, two extraordinary circumstance meetings, and two regular ordinance
readings of the item. She said they are tentatively scheduled as follows: May 30th
Workshop and first Extraordinary Circumstance meeting; June 6th second
Extraordinary Circumstance meeting; June 6th first reading of the ordinance; June
20th Second Reading of the ordinance. She explained why they are in a rush to get
this adopted before July 1st, 2023. She said some of these meetings will push back
the City Commission Meetings to 6:30 P.M. She noted that the purpose of the
meetings is to give a chance for public comment.
Commissioner Cruz asked for an explanation of what the extraordinary meeting is
for.
Ms. Radigan explained the extraordinary circumstances and needing the extra public
meeting, because it is above what the State Statute allows. She said these must
legally be stand-alone meetings.
City Attorney Cirullo Attorney said the State Statute was changed a few years ago,
to require the stand-alone meetings.
Commissioner Kelley said that there is only an hour for these meetings scheduled
and she is concerned if there is enough time to allow for public comment.
Ms. Radigan explained the layout of the workshops. She said that she needs to work
with the Commissioners' schedules, staff schedules, consultants schedule, and
availability of the rooms.
Commissioner Cruz asked if they kept the dates as they have it now, could the
Commission meeting start right after, without cutting it off at an hour.
City Attorney Cirullo said yes, the City Commission meeting can start right after the
workshop ends.
Ms. Radigan said that the Mobility Workshop is scheduled for May 16th. The Live
Local workshop does not need to be done by July 1st but it does go active on July 1st
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Mayor Penserga said that he would like to hear from various companies regarding
ride sharing/mobility.
Commissioner Cruz asked if we reached out to the Palm Beach County TPA to be
present at the workshop.
Ms. Radigan said that the workshop is a review of existing materials, but this is to see
what the City wants to see in the future. She stated that they can invite the TPA.
Commissioner Cruz said that West Palm Beach does a great job with mobility and if
we can look at that. She also requested the consultant go over the options.
Ms. Radigan explained what they plan to talk about at the Mobility Workshop. She
said that having a mobility plan gives the City extra points when they go to the TPA
for grants.
Commissioner Kelley commented that she is concerned that this is squeezed in an
hour before a City Commission meeting, which is not realistic to get it done in an
hour. She said that Housing and Live Local act is more important.
Ms. Radigan confirmed that it is not a rush, but that staff is eager to get this workshop
done so that they can move forward with their site plan reviews. She said that it can
be broken into series of meetings or one long meeting.
Commissioner Cruz said that we do have a deadline to apply for grants with the TPA,
so this would help with the grants. She asked for action to be taken because we
missed out on the grants last year. She asked staff to communicate with the TPA
regarding grants.
Ms. Radigan stated that staff does sit on the TPA committees, and they are involved.
She said that the mobility plan explains all the items that the Commissioners are
interested in.
Vice Mayor Turkin said that this is a lot of information, and an hour is not enough. He
asked if the CRA will be involved too.
Ms. Radigan said that this is a City plan, but anything within the CRA involves them.
City Manager Dugger stated that he has a meeting set up with the CRA.
Ms. Radigan said that the housing workshop is not scheduled but can be a
presentation at the City Commission meeting and not a separate workshop.
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Commissioner Kelley asked if this is something that can be discussed at the Strategic
Planning Workshop.
Ms. Radigan said that it can be done, and they will have to see how to get it
advertised.
Commissioner Cruz said that she will be here in the morning for the workshop, but
will not be present in the afternoon, because it is Mother's Day Weekend. She asked
for this to be added to the June 6th agenda.
City Manager Dugger stated that the next few meetings should not be heavy, so this
can be added to one of those City Commission meetings.
Commissioner Kelley asked if staff needs direction about the mobility study meeting.
She stated that these should not piggyback on a City Commission meeting.
There was discussion regarding the mobility study. There was consensus to hold a
Saturday workshop, if needed.
Ms. Radigan said that she will work with the consultant and staff on scheduling.
6. Consent Agenda
A. Legal Invoices March 2023.
Information at the request of the City Commission. No action required.
B. Bid Extensions and Piggy-Backs Under $100,000
Approve the one-year extension for RFPs/Bids and/ or piggy-backs for the
procurement of services and/or commodities under $100,000 as described
in the written report for May 2, 2023 - "Request for Extensions and/or
Piggybacks."
C. 2018 EMS Transport Billing Annual Write Offs.
Authorize the Finance Department to reduce the Allowance for
Uncollectible Accounts and the Accounts Receivable by $893,269.53. This
amount reflects unpaid ALS Transportation billings that have been in
collections for 12 months or longer. This write off is for 2018 uncollected
EMS-Transport revenue.
D. Proposed Resolution No. R23-052 - Request for Qualifications RFQ
UTL23-001
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Community Rating System (CRS) and Climate Resilience Planning
Professional Support Services - Grant Funded - Authorize the City
Manager to sign Agreement Approve and authorize the City Manager to
sign the Agreement with Lori Lehr, Inc. firm as a result of the Request for
Qualifications (RFQ) No. UTL23-001 for Community Rating System (CRS)
and Climate Resilience Planning Professional Support Services - Grant
Funded.
E. Proposed Resolution No. R23-053 - Approve ARPA Subrecipient
Partnership Agreement with Imagine Chancellor Charter School for their
School Food Service Support Project in the amount of $10,000.00. —
Pulled for discussion.
Approve ARPA Subrecipient Partnership Agreement with Imagine
Chancellor Charter School in the amount of $10,000.00.
F. Commission Meeting Minutes.
Approve minutes from the April 11 , 2023 Special City Commission
Meetings.
Commissioner Kelley requested to pull item 6E.
Motion:
Commissioner Hay moved to approve the remainder consent agenda. Vice Mayor
Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
6E. Proposed Resolution No. R23-053 - Approve ARPA Subrecipient
Partnership Agreement with Imagine Chancellor Charter School for their
School Food Service Support Project in the amount of $10,000.00.
Mr. John Durgan, Economic Development Manager, stated that this will go towards
paying off free and reduced lunch balances at Imagine Chancellor Charter School.
Commissioner Kelley said that when the City did the initial grants, Imagine was not on the
list, so she reached out and they applied. She thanked the City Commission for their
support. She noted they are a non-traditional school, and it is important that we support
them in their ask.
Principal Stanley said that they would appreciate the support and that they are proud
residents of the City. She said that some of the families are at a disadvantage to be able
to pay the balances owed, so this would help support the kids.
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Motion:
Commissioner Kelly moved to approve item 6E. Vice Mayor Turkin seconded the motion.
The motion unanimously passed.
7. Consent Bids and Purchases over $100,000
G. Fire Bunker Gear Equipment Purchase for $109,018.
Approve the purchase of 28 sets of Firefighting bunker gear, at a
discounted price of$109,018 via the Lake County Contract. The Lake
County Contract meets the City's competitive bid requirements and allows
for piggy-back purchases.
Motion:
Commissioner Cruz moved to approve the Consent Bids and Purchases over$100,000.
Commissioner Kelley seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
8. Public Hearing
6 p.m. or as soon thereafter as the agenda permits. The City Commission will
conduct these public hearings in its dual capacity as Local Planning Agency
and City Commission.
H. Proposed Ordinance No. 23-008- Second Reading- Employee Handbook
Amending Chapter 2, "Administration" Article X, "Personnel Policy Manual"
of the Code of Ordinances to update the Employee Handbook (formerly
known as Personnel Policy Manual) of the City of Boynton Beach.
City Attorney Cirullo read the title into the record.
Tennille DeCoste, Director of HR & Risk Management, said that there was one
change, which was a Scribner's error.
Mayor Penserga opened public comments.
Thomas Gary Febo, aka Nature, said that he missed the public audience, and he
wants to make paradise real.
There were no online comments.
Motion:
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Commissioner Cruz moved to approve Ordinance No. 23-008. Commissioner Hay
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
9. City Manager's Report- None
10. Unfinished Business
A. Continue discussion on adding a Sister City in Ukraine.
Continue discussion & selection of Ukraine Sister City.
Tabled from the April 18, 2023 City Commission Meeting.
Vice Mayor Turkin stated that the Sister Cities representative is not present. He
requested the item continued to be tabled to the next meeting.
There was consensus to keep the item on the table.
B. Discussion on American Rescue Plan Funds, requested by Mayor
Penserga.
City staff to provide an overview of ARPA expenditures to date and funds
still available, as well as an overview of infrastructure priorities for the
Commission to discuss and provide direction.
Mara Frederiksen, Director of Financial Services, spoke about the ARPA as follows:
funding objectives; restrictions on use (what funding cannot be used for); American
Rescue Plan Act master spending plan proposed priorities; eligible uses; address
negative economic impacts; tranching of funds; and funds spent so far. She noted
that there is over $9M has been allocated to date, leaving approximately $4.5M. She
said there will be $2.7M in revenue losses.
Mario Guzman, Public Works Director, spoke about the following: current road
projects analysis; and current projects.
Vice Mayor Turkin asked if Lake Boynton Estates is the same project as Old Boynton
Estates.
Gary Dunmyer, City Engineer, said yes, it is one large project.
Mr. Guzman continued with the following: current projects; and recommended ARPA
Projects.
Commissioner Hay asked if any of the funding will be used for speed bumps.
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Mr. Guzman responded yes, it is part of the projects.
Poonam Kalkat, Utilities Director, spoke about the following: utilities infrastructure
projects; and questions.
Mayor Penserga said that they want to help as many residents as they can, so they
must narrow down the priorities for these funds. He asked what we would do if we
did not have the funds.
Ms. Frederiksen said that the $2.7M in revenue loss is an estimate and they will likely
need additional funds and will have to cut in other places or pull from reserves.
Mayor Penserga said that there is a deadline, and the funds are limited. He asked
what the plan is moving forward.
Ms. Frederiksen explained the different revenues but noted she will not have all
revenues until June. She said that they will balance the budget as needed, and they
can push out the projects as needed.
Mayor Penserga asked which of these cannot be funded by other means.
Mr. Guzman said that they have an infinite number of projects, and they can look at
CBDG funds. He stated that they are looking at other grants as well.
Ms. Kalkat said that there is a CIP, but it is lengthy and there are a lot of cost, and
their infrastructure needs are higher. She commented that they are looking for grants
and other resources to help fund these projects. She noted that they will work with
whatever money they have.
Mayor Penserga asked which items are time-sensitive and critical, and which take a
longer time to accomplish.
Ms. Kalkat said that they came back with projects they knew they could accomplish
within the deadline. She explained which projects are critical.
Mr. Guzman said that his projects can be done within a year or two. He mentioned
that the Cherry Hill area would get the biggest bang for its buck.
City Manager Dugger said that the City Commission spoke about solar panels on top
of the Ezell Hester Center and noted that Mr. Dunmyer commented that the solar
panels may structurally damage the roof. He stated that Deputy City Manager Mack
suggested the funds may be better utilized for some of the projects discussed tonight.
Deputy City Manager Mack said that from a timeliness standpoint, they could utilize
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the funds for the water or sewer projects.
Mayor Penserga said that he is concerned that the solar panels could cause damage
to the Hester Center and questioned why it was not mentioned when they approved
the funds.
Deputy City Manager Mack stated that they received a better analysis of the roof, and
he explained the feedback and recommendations given. He said that CBDG funds
could be used for street paving.
Mayor Penserga said that he is bothered by the last-minute nature of this. He noted
that he understands the recommendation to reallocate the funds to these other
projects.
City Manager Dugger explained the alternatives that he was given just recently.
Commissioner Cruz said that she understands the revenue losses for year 1 and
asked if the $2.7M is in addition to the revenue losses we have.
Ms. Frederiksen responded yes.
Commissioner Cruz said that adding another $2.7M to revenue losses is not fiscally
responsible.
Ms. Frederiksen explained the revenue losses, and what the losses went towards
last year.
Vice Mayor Turkin stated that he agrees, and that there is some pork to trim to
alleviate the revenue loss. He said that they need to collaborate and look at the City
as a whole.
Commissioner Hay said that they have neglected certain areas so far, and he is
interested in the totality of the City. He commented that he wants to take a closer look
at where they are spending the dollars. He stated that the list that they created years
ago has gone away and he would like to see that list come back.
Mayor Penserga stated that he understands that the list of nonprofits is still in
existence. He said that they are not saying no, but they have infrastructure needs in
the City.
Commissioner Hay said that he is still being questioned about the list, and asked if
the items on that list will ever be addressed.
Mayor Penserga said that the first step is to determine what to do with the $2.7M that
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staff is recommending for revenue loss.
Deputy City Manager Mack said they could decide on the $1 .8M now as they are
discussing the $2.7M and still have time during the budget process to allocate
funding. He said they can make a better-informed decision later.
Commissioner Kelley said that this is extra funding and should not be used to budget
our City at all. She stated that this is intended to help the City. She commented that
she is not comfortable allocating a portion of this if we are not doing what we can
during the budget year. She stated that the list of nonprofits was steamrolled, and
they were given hope. She noted that it is difficult to give to nonprofits that are not
located in the City. She spoke about using the funds to help our residents and our
quality of life here.
Commissioner Cruz agreed with Commissioner Kelley about the nonprofits, and this
money being used as a crutch, such as paying for staff. She spoke about not having
the funds in 2026, and what are we going to do without the funds.
Mr. Guzman explained what has been spent and caps on the funding.
Commissioner Cruz said that they need to look forward to finding funds for our City
employee needs.
Vice Mayor Turkin spoke about most municipalities using their funds for
infrastructure, and he also does not want to see funding going to nonprofits if the City
has infrastructure needs.
There was discussion regarding the solar panels on the Hester Center roof; trimming
the fat on the budget; donating some funds to nonprofits; and discussing further at
the budget hearing.
Vice Mayor Turkin proposed using the workshop to make a better decision.
Ms. Frederiksen said that we have until December 2024 to allocate these funds.
Mr. Guzman said that the sooner the better, but they can wait until the budget
workshop. He said that they are funding some of the behind-the-scenes stuff on these
projects.
Commissioner Kelley said that District 4 has some roads that need assistance too,
but she knows that some schools need sidewalks, so Cherry Hill is a priority for her.
There was consensus from the dais on the Cherry Hill project.
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Mayor Penserga said that the there was a consensus for the Cherry Hill project, but
they will make a final decision at the budget workshop.
C. City Commission to discuss speedbumps throughout the City, requested
by Vice Mayor Turkin.
City staff to provide an update on Drive Safe Boynton for the City
Commission to discuss.
11. New Business
Mr. Dunmyer spoke about Drive Safe Boynton as follows: current ordinance; and Drive
Safe Boynton.
Commissioner Hay asked about the requirement that 25% of the street participating.
Mr. Dunmyer explained what he does to get the 25%. He continued as follows: strategies-
when projects qualify, short term installations and permanent installations; project
summary; map of drive safe Boynton projects; and questions.
Commissioner Kelley said that it is important to learn about Drive Safe Boynton and we
should encourage residents to reach out. She stated that District 4 are primarily County
roads, and she asked if this can be utilized on County roads.
Mr. Dunmyer explained what the County will allow and not allow.
Commissioner Kelley said that it is a challenge to get the County to listen to the concerns
of the residents.
Commissioner Hay spoke about the different speed hump options, and asked if the
temporary ones can be permanent.
Mr. Dunmyer said that he does not mind keeping them in place and they can easily be
replaced. He spoke about different ways they have done traffic calming in the City.
Commissioner Hay stated that they get a lot of people that tell them they do not want the
speedbumps on their street. He spoke about the bus stops and the process with the County
to help with the cars zooming by the busses that are stopped.
Mr. Dunmyer said that he gets residents that love and hate the speedbumps. He spoke
about being able to work with the County about the bus issue.
Vice Mayor Turkin asked about looking into simplifying the process for traffic calming. He
spoke about the overall goal of safety. He thanked Mr. Dunmyer for the work that he has
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done.
Commissioner Hay asked if they are considering roundabouts.
Mr. Dunmyer named one spot that they are suggesting a roundabout for.
Commissioner Hay asked if they get push back from first responders.
Mr. Dunmyer says that he runs possible projects by Sergeant Monroe.
12. Legal
13. Future Agenda Items
A. Discussion regarding Ordinance for minimum sized units. Discussion
requested by Commissioner Cruz.- May 16, 2023
B. Discussion regarding Ordinance for giving preference to local businesses.
Discussion requested by Commissioner Cruz. - May 16, 2023
C. Advisory Board Annual Reappointments and Appointments.
City Commission to reappoint and appoint eligible members of the
community to serve in vacant positions on City Advisory Boards - Tabled
from April 4, 2023.
D. Discussion regarding lowering or waiving arts impact fees for small
businesses. Discussion requested by Vice Mayor Turkin. -TBD
E. Discussion for Ordinance regarding tints for paraphernalia shops.
Discussion requested by Vice Mayor Turkin. - TBD
F. Discussion regarding future cemetery lots in Boynton Beach.
Discussion requested by Commissioner Hay. -TBD
G. Discuss and review Advisory Board Ordinance changes- first reading.
Discussion requested by Commissioner Kelley. - TBD
H. Consider revised local rules for approval.
Discussion requested by Mayor Penserga.-TBD
I. Discussion regarding downtown parking master plan.
Discussion requested by Mayor Penserga. - TBD
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J. Discussion regarding changing minimum requirements for traffic studies.-
TBD Discussion requested by Vice Mayor Turkin.
K. Discussion regarding bringing more jobs to the City at former ToysRUS.
Discussion requested by Vice Mayor Turkin.-TBD
L. Discussion regarding housing for the homeless in the City.
Discussion requested by Commissioner Hay.- TBD
Motion:
Commissioner Cruz moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Hay seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanimously.
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 8:14 P.M.
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