Minutes 08-24-02MINUTES OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WORKSHOP
HELD IN THE CITY HALL CHAMBERS,
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 24, 2002 AT 9:00 A.M.
Present
Larry Finkelstein, Chairman
Jeanne Heavilin, Vice Chair
Alexander DeMarco
Don Fenton
Doug Hutchinson, CRA Director
Absent
Josh Aguila
Michelle Hoyland
Henderson Tillman
I. Call to Order
Chair Finkelstein called the workshop meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
II. Roll Call
The Recording Secretary called the roll.
III. Agenda Approval
Mr. Hutchinson asked that the Board allow time for a short discussion with Susan
Villhauer, an applicant for the position of Controller. The Board agreed with this addition
to the agenda.
IV. CRA Planning
A. Proposed Budget and Funding Forecasting
Mr. Hutchinson stated that of the 141 responses to the advertisement for a controller,
98% were bookkeepers and did not have experience with non-profit accounting, grant
writing and reporting requirements, financial statements, government reporting, working
with non-profit boards, payroll, and budget forecasting. He introduced Susan Villhauer to
the Board, stating that she had experience in all of these areas. He had previously sent
information from Ms. Villhauer's resume to the Board members.
Chair Finkelstein thought that the Controller would have to be bonded and insured. Ms.
Villhauer expanded upon her background and experience and answered questions from
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The Board had previously given Mr. Hutchinson the authority to recommend personnel
that could be hired subject to the Board's approval. The consensus of the four Board
members who were present was positive. Mr. Hutchinson will bring a fi~ .,.;;zed version of
the employment contract to the Board at its next meeting.
Budget Discussion
Chair Finkelstein noted that they were gathered together to workshop on the budget
from October 1, 2002 through September 30, 2003 and discuss some long-term
planning issues in a five-year program. The Board discussed the details of the budget
and received clarification from the Director on various points. Mr. Hutchinson provided
the Board members with a four-page budget narrative that highlighted major items in the
budget and provided insight as to their origination. Since this was the first budget as an
independent CRA, Mr. Hutchinson sought the review and direction of the Board.
Mr. Fenton inquired about a fiscal versus an annual budget and thought he had heard
that the CRA had to have a fiscal budget. A discussion ensued on this topic. Chair
Finkelstein stated that he believed the City not only wanted the CRA to be on a fiscal
year budget, but also thought that State Statute required it. The Board's attorney did not
agree with that. The Board had wanted to be on a calendar year basis to be more
businesslike - to have profit and loss statements and balance sheets, rather than a
sources and uses type of budget. It had also wanted to move to a more businesslike
format of reporting system. Chair Finkelstein had asked the State Community
Redevelopment Association to tell him how many CRAs were on fiscal years and how
many were on calendar years and was waiting for their response.
Mr. Hutchinson said that he had switched to a fiscal budget starting on October 1 due to
the short timeframe. If the Board wished to switch to a calendar year in December, it
could. Chair Finkelstein stated that the City had not entirely agreed with transferring
their money to them. Mr. Hutchinson thought that having the Controller on Board and
bonded, and having the financial software installed, should facilitate the funds transfer to
the CRA on October 1.
Mr. Hutchinson stated that in the future, small charts would be "blown up" prior to putting
in the member's agenda packets. Mr. Hutchinson discussed the distribution list of the
agenda packets (25) and it was decided that Ms. Payne would examine the list to see
which ones were legally required and let the Board decide about the rest.
INCOME
The Board looked at the Income portion of the proposed budget. Mr. Hutchinson stated
that the interest income on New Revenue was a "guesstimate" by staff. Chair
Finkelstein asked about Year 2, Bond Proceeds for RiverVValk $3M. In his opinion, they
were wasting $150K a year in interest holding on to the $3M for a year and not buying
any real estate. He told the Director that he thought it should be paid off right away and
turned into a Letter of Credit. This would mean that they still had access to $3M, but
would not be paying interest on it. Chair Finkelstein's reason for asking the question
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was that under Year 2, Expenses, there was $90K to reissue $3M. Why would they want
to spend $90K if.they could just pull off their line of credit? Mr. Hutchinson stated that
this was purely for budget purposes. If they did acquire enough properties by the second
year, $90K would be the underwriting fee for the bond, The Board debated the issue of
bonds versus Letters of Credit at length. Chair Finkelstein favored paying off the loan_.
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million bond at a cost of $90K. The interest payment shown for the bond matched the
interest being paid now on the Letter of Credit - he did not see any benefit to the bond.
Mr. Hutchinson mentioned the issuance cost, which would be 4%. He used a rule of
thumb for budgeting purposes to say that it would take about 10% to retire the principal
amount of the bond because they were looking at the bond market in two years' time.
Mr. Hutchinson knew they were looking at assembling the properties but did not think
that anyone had a feel for how quickly the properties would be assembled. Chair
Finkelstein submitted that the CRA would have the $3M Letter of Credit if they converted
the current loan. And, their TIF income had tripled from when they took out the loan. Any
properties they were buying would be capitalized in one year so they had enough annual
income from TIF and the reserve balance to purchase everything without taking out a
bond. Mr. Hutchinson agreed but pointed out that it would take $3M for the RiverWalk
and Phase One and Two of the Promenade and that this would put them over the edge.
He realized that the acquisition of properties could probably be handled in house.
Mr. Fenton stated that if they did go out for a bond, he did not want to be in the position
of having only one bidder. Mr. Hutchinson thought that under the mechanisms that were
being set up, including the budget forecast, this would not happen since the
expenditures would be planned. Also, the Letter of Credit would buy them a cushion.
TIF Projection
Mr. Hutchinson stated that the TIF projection was what the City, County, and taxing
districts had given them and were pretty firm numbers. The years beyond year one
show moderately pessimistic numbers for TIF, as projected by the City. Mr. Hutchinson
thought that if the western Industrial Park area were to be removed from the CRA, it
would not substantially impact the CRA.
EXPENSES
Chair Finkelstein remarked that the money for SEP IRA was not supposed to begin until
after the first year, per Mr. Hutchinson's contract, and the contracts of the other new
hires. Mr. Hutchinson stated that that was in the salary figures now but that it would be
.....,~,...,~,"'^'" amended since this was the case. $13,250 would be removed in year one. The
CRA's goal was to have their contract employees become regular employees as soon as
possible. When this occurred, it was possible that as regular employees of the CRA,
they might be able to obtain coverage through the City's insurance; however, the
amounts for insurance were left in for budgetary purposes, just in case.
Mr. Hutchinson indicated that the CRA Statute called for CRA Plans to be kept updated.
The Plan had been accomplished in part - the Heart of Boynton and the Federal
Highway Corridor had been done. The Ocean District was being finished up by City
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was that under Year 2, Expenses, there was $90K to reissue $3M. Why would they want
$90K if they could just pull off their line of credit? Mr. Hutchinson stated that.
as purely for budget purposes. If they did acquire enough properties by the sec~,~d
year, OK would be the underwriting fee for the bond. The Board debated the issue of
bonds ~us Letters of Credit at length. Chair Finkelstein favored paying off the
and in doing a $3M bond at a cost of $90K. The interest payment shown fo
bond the interest being paid now on the Letter of Credit - he did not any
benefit to the id. Mr. Hutchinson mentioned the issuance cost, which woul, 4%.
He used a rule for budgeting purposes to say that it would take 10% to
retire the principal of the bond because they were looking at the market in
two years' time.
Mr. Hutchinson knew the'
that anyone had a feel
Finkelstein submitted that the
the current loan. And, their TIF
properties they were buying
income from TIF and the reserve
bond. Mr. Hutchinson agreed but
and Phase One and Two of the
He realized that the acquisition of
looking at assembling the properti but did not think
how quickly the properties would assembled. Chair
RA would have the $3M Letter of if they converted
had tripled from when took out the loan. Any
e capitalized in one year they had enough annual
lance to purchase without taking out a
out that it take $3M for the RiverVValk
~de and that thi #ould put them over the edge.
could be handled in house.
Mr. Fenton stated that if they did go out for
of having only one bidder. Mr. Hutchinson tho
being set up, including the budget
expenditures would be planned. Also, the
he did not want to be in the position
that under the mechanisms that were
this would not happen since the
would buy them a cushion.
TIF Projection
Mr. Hutchinson stated that the TIF ection was what
districts had given them and firm numbers.
show moderately pessimistic for TIF, as projected
thought that if the western Ind~ Park area were to be
would not substantially CRA.
City, County, and taxing
years beyond year one
~e City. Mr. Hutchinson
from the CRA, it
EXPENSES
Chair Finkelstein rema that the money for SEP IRA was not su to begin until
after the first year, Mr. Hutchinson's contract, and the contracts of other new
hires. Mr. Hutchin stated that that was in the salary figures now but would be
waived, since thi,, the case. $13,250 would be removed in year one. CRA's
goal was to their contract employees become regular employees as as
possible, this occurred, it was possible that as regular employees of th, RA,
they might able to obtain coverage through the City's insurance; however.
am~ insurance were left in for budgetary purposes, just in case.
Mr. Hu
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indicated that the CRA Statute called for CRA Plans to be kept updated.
had been accomplished in part - the Heart of Boynton and the Federal
Corridor had been done. The Ocean District was being finished up by City
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Staff. The next two areas that had to be updated during 2003 were the West Industrial
Avenue area and the Boynton Beach Boulevard Corridor. They could pay City staff to
do it like they did with the Ocean District for $25K, hire a consultant, or do it in-house.
Chair Finkelstein stated that the CRA did not approve the Development Department
doing the Ocean District. The Board asked to be relieved of the charge for the hours
that were spent on that project. Chair Finkelstein had told Mr. Greene that a bid should
go to outside parties to make sure that they were not overspending. They spent $10 -
$15K on the Federal Highway Corridor and he did not see why they had to spend $25-
30K on the Ocean District. If the CRA undertook the Boynton Beach Boulevard Corridor,
they should bid it out. Mr. Hutchinson stated that it could be done in-house. Chair
Finkelstein stated that the Board wanted to do design guideline overlays for
development on the Federal Highway Corridor and Boynton Beach Boulevard Corridor.
The consensus was to hire a consultant to do it and go out for bid.
The Board discussed office space. The projection was for $15/sq. ft. per year plus CAM.
Nothing had been firmed up yet for a definite place.
Chair Finkelstein asked about advertising and public notice. He understood that this
would be for CRA-specific projects, not Planning & Development projects, and Mr.
Hutchinson agreed. The projected amount was $4K.
Mr. Fenton mentioned that the CRA might have to go out and get a new attorney and
there would be some costs for that. Mr. Hutchinson said that would be part of the Public
Notices.
Chair Finkelstein asked about the amount of GALA. Mr. Hutchinson stated that this was
an acknowledgment of the goal of starting to get some festivals for the downtown area.
He thought that GALA might not occur and it might not happen in the first year because
there was no place for it. Chair Finkelstein stated the Promenade was always supposed
to become an event corridor. The budget item could also be for contributions towards
events. Chair Finkelstein did not want checks to start going out the door once the
budget were approved and thought that if specific programs were to be named, it would
amount to a commitment on the part of the CRA. Mr. Hutchinson understood. Mr.
Fenton suggested putting $40K under festivals and deleting the reference to GALA and
the Board concurred. Chair Finkelstein questioned spending $40K on festivals. Mr.
Hutchinson said that any requests would be brought before the Board for their approval.
Vice Chair Heavilin asked if the figure for seasonal decorating would be in addition to the
City's lighting budget. Mr. Hutchinson stated that in the CRA area, they needed to be
proactive if they were redeveloping. He did not want to have to ask the City for money if
they had to have the banners along the streets replaced with Christmas banners for the
merchants, for example. Chair Finkelstein thought that this would be an issue for a
Downtown Development Authority. The Board decided to put festivals, lighting events,
seminars, and decorating, in one lump sum.
Vice Chair Heavilin asked what Mr. Hutchinson was thinking of for seminars. Mr.
Hutchinson said that when the CRA began to look at BODA and the Heart of Boynton,
they might want to bring in retail specialists and other special speakers to do on-site
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seminars for local businesses on such topics as marketing their businesses and how to
develop web pages.
$100K was put in the budget for the Fac,,ade Grant Program in 2003, subject to approval
of the CRA. Mr. Fenton asked if anyone had applied. Mr. Hutchinson stated that they
now had two applications and some people waiting in the wings. They had to discuss
where they were going to let that apply. People had inquired about the program on
buildings that may be obsolete, and this meant that the design guidelines had to be put
in place as soon as possible. The fac,,ade grant program was subject to their approval as
a Board - it was not a given.
The Board agreed that having a booth at the mall would be a good idea, when their
brochure was ready.
A discussion ensued about the term "venture capital" in the draft budget. The Board's
consensus was that the term "venture capital" should be replaced by the term "revolving
loan fund" or something similar. It could be put in with the economic incentive program
also.
The $175K in year 2 for the sign program was discussed. Mr. Hutchinson stated that he
wanted to come in with a whole program for identification in the CRA but was not ready
yet. Chair Finkelstein asked if this would include what the Board wanted to see, which
was an entry marker at 1-95 and Boynton Beach Boulevard. Mr. Hutchinson replied that
he was thinking of the Ocean District, the Marina, the Downtown Core, and the MLK
Corridor, to develop some gateways rather than just wayfinding.
The Board advised Mr. Hutchinson that they had a presentation from a professional who
could do something for less. Chair Finkelstein thought that the line item should be
changed to gateway features or markers or CRA identifications.
The Board discussed the RiverWalk and Promenade and agreed that they wanted both
done as far as design. They wanted to see a figure that reflected the design and
architectural fees through construction bid documents for the project.
The Board discussed whether it wanted to have an amount for consistent reserves like a
percentage of TIF or some such number. The Board agreed that $750K would be a
good target, with some dissension.
The Board thought that the tentative budget before them was a great start and thanked
Mr. Hutchinson for his efforts.
PUBLIC AUDIENCE
Herb Suss, citizen of Boynton Beach, asked if the CRA would participate in GALA this
year. Chair Finkelstein understood that GALA would not take place this year. Mr. Suss
thought that it would be good for the CRA to advertise its progress at City Hall in the Mall
so people's excitement could be maintained. He expressed his excitement at the
potential plans for the IMAX and RiverVValk area. Mr. Hutchinson commented that the
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CRA was looking at a newspaper article in cooperation with the City and possibly
something with the Chamber of Commerce. Chair Finkelstein stated that the CRA had
remarks in the Chamber's newsletter that goes out monthly to 30,000 to 40,000 people.
Mr. Suss asked if they were coordinating their efforts with the Marina developers. He
noted that the Marina developers would start to build in January. Chair Finkelstein
mentioned that the developers come before the CRA for approval and would be coming
back again. Mr. Hutchinson stated that the Marina developers meet weekly with City
staff. Mr. Suss felt they should be working closely together. Mr. DeMarco commented
that the presentation Dale Sugerman had made at the Economic Development meeting
was excellent and would be shared with the public.
The meeting adjourned at 10:45 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Collins
Recording Secretary
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