Minutes 02-09-93HINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COHNIS$ION FLEETING HELD IN
COI4HI$SION CI~U~BER$, CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, ON
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 9, 1993, AT 4'.30 P, H,
PRESENT
Arline Weiner, Mayor
Lynne Matson, Vice Mayor
Jo~e Aguila, Commissioner
Edward Harmening, Commissioner
J. Scott Miller, City Manager
James Cherof, City Attorney
Sue Kruse, City Clerk
Mr. Cherof listened to the meeting via the sound system from his office.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Weiner called the meeting to order at 4:34 P. M.
INTERVIEW THE FOLLOWING THREE FIRI4S IH REFEREHCE TO THE HANGROVE NATURE PARK
Robert H, Nlller &Associates, Inc, (RHI~)
Leo Schwartzberg, Vice President of Robert H. Miller & Associates, Inc., stated
that if selected, he will be the Principal in charge. He introduced the proj-
ect manager, David John, a registered, professional engineer and certified
environmental professional, and Bill Rosenberg, landscape architect and planner.
Mr. Rosenberg was Director of Planning and Research of the Dade County Parks and
Recreation Department for six years. Since leaving the County, he has been in
private practice. He has a tremendous amount of experience in park design and
park work, including the Fern Forest Park in Broward County. Mr. Schwartzberg
also introduced Jasmine Moore of API Group Architects.
Mr. Schwartzberg told of his and RHM&A's experience with park design, including
the 1,400 acre West Lake Park in Hollywood, which has a lot of similarities to
Mangrove Park. The three elements to Mangrove Park include the environmental
element (which includes design and permitting), the park use element, and the
integrating of this park into the overall downtown of Boynton Beach.
Mr. John spoke of environmental design and permitting. He advised that he has
managed a number of environmentally sensitive projects, West Lake being one of
them. He and Mr~ Schwartzberg canoed Mangrove Park and have become very fami-
liar with the attributes of the site. He believed passive park activities can
be interjected with the natural environment at Mangrove Park. One of his first
tasks would be to get a binding jurisdictional determination with the agencies
to determine the environmental issues to be dealt with and preserved before
laying out a site plan. He proposed to introduce canoeing, boardwalks, and
nature trails in the passive areas of Mangrove Park where they would least
affect the environment. Mr. John advised that with minor modifications, the
site could be canoeable.
Bill Rosenberg of Rosenberg Design Group, landscape architects and planners, who
have been in business for about twenty-five years, talked of integrating the two
areas. Mr. Rosenberg was the prime consultant for the design of many parks,
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including Fern Forest Park. He stated that the site conditions at Fern Forest
Park are very similar to the site conditions at Mangrove Park in that the ground
is quite mucky and does not have a very good support system to it.
Mr. Rosenberg advised that a natural area is a constantly changing environment
and requires a long-range management plan for continually managing the system
(injecting water when needed, preventing fire during severe droughts). With
regard to the privately owned land separating Mangrove Park, Mr. Rosenberg would
like to study any proposed plans the private developers may have and offer
suggestions of how there might be some integration of activity or connection
(joint use of parking area, signage system and other architectural details)
which would start to unite the two spaces. Mr. Rosenberg stated that initial
design is important to minimize impact on the environment, maximize recreational
and interpretative opportunities, and to provide a long-term management plan
that City staff can carry through on an ongoing basis, ]earning to recognize
certain stresses that may change the environment in the wrong way, and learning
to implement certain strategies to improve and continue to enchance it.
Jasmine Moore spoke of the architectural aspects. She will be coordinating most
of the work with the environmental engineer, the planner, and the landscape
architect. She will be coordinating the kiosks, pavilions, restrooms, and pic-
nic areas. Her major goal would be to meet with City staff to determine the
basic concept that the City wants to design with this project. Then she will
proceed to design, taking the environment and the ADA into consideration, and
making sure the facility is safe and successfully done.
Mr. Schwartzberg advised that as a result of a heavy canopy of trees at Fern
Forest, the boardwalk is always wet because it never gets to dry out in the sun.
This boardwalk gets so wet sometimes, it has to be closed to the public.
Mr. Schwartzberg suggested constructing the boardwalk at Mangrove Park with 100
per cent recycled plastic, which does not get slipPery when wet because it does
not absorb any moisture. Tests show this material will last thirty to fifty
years. Even though the initial cost is higher, the ultimate savings is tremen-
dous. In response to Commissioner Harmening,' Mr. Schwartzberg advised that this
material cost one and a half times the price of pressure treated wood; however,
Federal and State grant money is available for environmentally sound, recycling
projects.
Mr. Schwartzberg advised that when this park is finished, it has to be the
northern cornerstone of the downtown area. It has to be a place where people
want to come again and again. One of the unpleasant aspects about visiting the
site now is the bugs. They cannot be eliminated; however, the situation can be
improved upon by changing the flushing patterns of the canals by opening up some
of the dead end canals so that water can get all the way through. This will
increase the fish population in those areas and decrease the bug population.
Commissioner Aguila requested that if selected, Mr. Rosenberg provide the City
with a resume.
Commissioner Aguila asked what was being done within the park to make it
accessible to the disabled. Mr. Schwartzberg advised that boardwalks have to
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be constructed with slopes that are flat enough to meet the ADA requirement.
addition, signage will have to be placed so that a person who is sitting in a
wheelchair can read it.
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Commissioner Aguila asked what percentage of RHM&A's projects have been done
within the budget allotted. Mr. John advised that the West Lake project came in
under budget. He stated that the key is good planning and liaison with the
client upfront. Mr. Schwartzberg added that a road which was constructed in the
Town of Pembroke Park came in 1 per cent over budget.
In response to Vice Mayor Matson, Mr. Rosenberg explained the floating peers
used instead of excavating very mucky soil, whiCh would tear up the environment.
Mr. Schwartzberg added that the only demucking that will be considered in the
channels will be enough to allow canoes through those channels at low tide.
Commissioner Harmening inquired about the annual cost to maintain Mangrove Park.
Mr. Rosenberg was not prepared to say because it is not known what exactly will
be built there; however, he felt the cost would be minimal, particularly if a
management program is developed.
At this point in the meeting, Vice Mayor Matson announced that she has to leave
the meeting early and asked if she could vote before doing so. She stated that
she has read all the material submitted by all three firms. Mr. Cherof returned
to the Chambers to advise her that if she participates in any part of the pres-
entations given by all three firms, then she may participate in the vote.
Semtnole Bay Land Company, Inc,
David Keir, Planner, Landscape Architect, and President of Seminole Bay Land
Company, introduced Bob Walker of Mock, Roos & Associates, Inc., Engineers. He
proposed a joint venture for this project with Seminole Bay Land Company serving
as the prime contract consultant. He asked Mock, Roos to join Seminole Bay
because of their additional experience in F.I.N.D. grants and for their con-
tinuing relationship with permitting agencies that would be involved in this
project (DER, DNR, Army Corps of Engineers, and the County's DERM agency).
Mr. Keir advised-that he met with each of the agencies briefly to discuss this
project and felt the City can look forward to the permitting process being an
opportunity, not a problem. With regard to the permitting aspects of the proj-
ect, Mr. Keir gave a brief synopsis of the involvement of each of the four
agencies.
Commissioner Harmening asked if the Corps would issue a nationwide blanket per-
mit for a project such as Mangrove Park. Mr. Keir advised that if the board-
walks were the only things built and there was nothing in the navigation
channels, it would probably fall under the general permit.
Mr. Walker stated that due to the work City staff has already done, the F.I.N.D.
grant process should go well. He advised that Mock, Roos was the Engineer of
Record for the fishing pier project at Currie Park. This was a F.I.N.D. grant
project. It was completed on time and within the budget. Mock, Roos has been
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in business for thirty-eight years in this County and has developed a rapport
with the permitting agencies to help move a project to construction.
Mr. Keir spoke of planning. He stated that this park is about excitement and if
you cannot excite people to make them return, you have just created another
piece of art to hang on the wall. Seminole Bay is only a four year old company.
However, in those four years, they have created tremendous relationships with
permitting agencies.
Slides were shown of previous boardwalk projects done by Seminole Bay. Mr. Keir
stated that in addition to creating circulation, a pathway should create places
for people to collect. Some of the activities he has seen associated with the
park would include floating docks, glass bottom decks, tree houses, observation
towers, informational signage, and bridges. The pathway should interact within
itself. He proposed a couple of path systems, each with its own degree of dif-
ficulty in terms of width, slopes, and obstacles along the way. He envisioned
interactive displays showing how a mangrove filters water, moving decks which
rise and fall with the tides, floating and removable deck and dock sections to
allow portions of the park to be isolated during nesting seasons or other impor-
tant events, changing the decks to make the paths different. He felt all this
would make it worth revisiting the park. He hoped this park would be the first
phase of what could be an environmental center for Boynton Beach. He is going
to meet with the agencies in a preapplication meeting to set the project limits.
He proposed using recyclable materials in the park. He felt all the paths
should lead to someplace where you see some panorama or something special that
will bring you back again.
Commissioner Harmening asked how he proposes to stabilize the boardwalk through
the muck area. Mr. Keir advised that one way would be to use floating founda-
tions.
Commissioner Harmening asked what can be done about the bugs that are in the
park most of the time. Mr. Keir suggested bug lights and screening in the areas
where there will be activity.
Commissioner Aguila asked if Mr. Keir anticipates the need to remove any of the
existing muck. Mr. Keir was reluctant to remove the existing muck. He advised
that if the muck is removed, the succession of the system in place would be
affected, and that permitting becomes much more involved with the existence of
mucking and dredging issues. In addition, the dredging equipment is highly
inefficient.
Commissioner Harmening asked about the depth of the silt at Mangrove Park.
Mr. Keir advised he has not examined the silt yet; however, he would take a
boring to determine what kind of silt it is before taking it out, since its
removal could affect the environmental quality. He suggested staying away from
dredging and filling if possible, since it will create a schedule problem.
Mr. Keir mentioned additional sources of funding. He advised that DER has a
Florida Land Conservation Trust specifically set up for funding these types of
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parks. DCA is now funding coastal management plans. South Florida Management
District has an educational fund for the types of activities that could happen
at this park.
Mr. Keir stated that mangrove demonstrations and marine construction demonstra-
tions can be held while the park is being constructed.
At this point in the meeting, Mayor Weiner explained the voting process. Three
points will be given to the firm of each Commissioner's preference. Two points
will be given to the firm of their second choice, and one point to the firm of
their last choice.
Gee & Jenson, Inc,
John Yeend stated that Gee & Jenson is fairly familiar with this project. They
have been working with the City to get the first phase of the F.I,N.D. grant and
in developing the original conceptual drawings. He advised that Gee & Jenson
has taken the liberty of expanding the original conceptual drawings to incor-
porate some of the adjacent development that might come to fruition in the next
few years. He introduced the key staff members who would be working on this
project. Mr. Yeend would be the project manager for this project and responsi-
ble for quality control and making sure that everything is done on schedule. He
will also have a lot of input in the actual design of any structures. Jeannette
Wojciak would be the project biologist. Her main responsibility would be making
sure this project is done in a manner that has the least impact on the mangrove
environment. Brett Nein would be the project landscape architect and planner.
John Schaefer would be the waterfront engineer. His responsibility would be
permitting. Ms. Wojciak would also be working with permitting agencies.
Ms. Wojciak told of her background and stated that her main role in this project
would be to work with Mr. Nein to do a site assessment of the existing mangroves
and determine the most feasible and sensitive areas as far as putting in the
actual boardwalk. She will also be working with Mr. Schaefer with the per-
mitting process.
Mr. Nein told of his background. He displayed an aerial of the park site. He
also displayed and reviewed a conceptual master plan for this site.
Vice Mayor Matson inquired if Gee & Jenson would be using recyclable materials
for the boardwalk. Mr. Nein advised that recyclable materials could be used in
nonstructural applications.
Mr. Schaefer, environmental permitting engingeer, told of his and Gee & Jenson's
background and experience. He stated that there are seven other individuals at
Gee & Jenson who have similar expertise. He told of the projects similar to the
Mangrove Park project that Gee & Jenson has done. Mr. Schaefer advised that Gee
& Jenson has held an on site pre-application meeting with Palm Beach County
Environmental Resources Management on a local level, Florida Department of
Environmental Regulations on a State level, and the area representative for the
Army Corps of Engineers. All three of those representatives felt that with
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reducing the impacts to the greatest extent practicable, impacting the least
amount of mangroves, it will be a permittable project. They also asked that Gee
& Jenson construct from the end of the boardwalk to minimize heavy machinery,
etc.
Mr. Yeend advised that he has assisted clients in getting F.I.N.D. grants,
including obtaining the first phase of this project. This grant was proposed in
two phases. Therefore, F.I.N.D. is expecting Gee & Jenson to come back this
year with the second phase. If the boardwalk is going to be all over the
mangroves, three phases may be necessary, which F.I.N.D. is fairly receptive to.
At this point in the meeting, Vice Mayor Matson left the Chambers.
Mr. Yeend continued that F.I.N.D. is fairly receptive to projects they can fund
over a number of years. The schedule is important to show good faith to
F.I.N.D. that we have proceeded with what they funded last year. The schedule
to start construction toward the end of this year is still realistic, but sub-
ject to permitting. Gee & Jenson does not like to go out to bid on a project
until they have the permits in place.
Mayor Weiner felt the Commission should allow at least one public meeting to
find out what the citizens want at Mangrove Park.
In response to Commissioner Aguila, Mr. Yeend advised that F.I.N.D. is fairly
flexible in granting renewals of applications; however, there is a certain time
period wherein if work is not started on a project, they will pull the project
down. He believed this period was three years.
Mr. Yeend informed the Commission of a series of workshops that were held around
the State by NOAA and the State's DCA with regard to a new matching fund grant
program, making up to $100,000 available for applicants. It appears that the
F.I.N.D. money qualifies as matching funds for the NOAA money because F.I.N.D.
comes from the State and NOAA is Federal. Therefore, this project could be done
in phases. Mr. Nein added that two or three other recreational development
funds might be available if the scope of the project becomes a little larger
than anticipated.
In response to Commissioner Harmening, Mr. Yeend said the mosquito control
ditches already exist. The proposal which Gee & Jenson presented to F.I.N.D.
was not to dredge significantly, but to clean the snags out and improve the
flushing, which will help control the bugs, mosquitos and sand gnats.
Commissioner Harmening asked if the waterways can be dredged deep enough for the
use of canoes. Mr. Yeend did not survey the ditches; however, he thinks they
are already deep enough. He advised that the problem is that trees have fallen
into them.
At this point in the meeting, Mr. Cherof arrived.
Discussion ensued regarding permitting.
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Mr. Yeend advised that recyclable materials were considered for the beach park
area. There were some concerns about using recyclable boards for the decking
where the sun hits them because they appear to be ten to fifteen degrees hotter
than the sand. There are no specifications on the structural properties of
recycled material, therefore, it is not approved for structural uses. However,
it can be used for low level decking, trash containers, park benches, and picnic
tables.
Mr. Yeend mentioned that a few years ago, Gee & Jenson became committed in
quality control and is therefore trained in an extra manner to do things in a
quality, efficient way.
Commissioner Harmening inquired about the cost of this project. Mr. Yeend
advised that the conceptual master plan that was shown this evening is twice the
original estimate because it covers twice the area. Generally, boardwalks
designed to carry public loads run around $30 to $35 a square foot. Doubling
the square footage would make it $600,000 to $700,000.
Mayor Weiner thanked the City Manager's Office for the enormous amount of work
that was put into moving this project along.
~,ote
The Commission voted and past their ballots to the Mr. Miller, Mr. Cherof, and
Mrs. Kruse to tally. The vote was tied between Robert H. Miller & Associates
Inc. and Gee & Jenson, Inc. '
MAYOR WEINER DECLARED A SHORT RECESS AT 6:15 P. M. THE MEETING RESUMED AT 6:17
P. Mo
ELECTION#ATTERS
Receipt of Candidates' Nominating Petitions
Sue Kruse, City Clerk, announced that the ten nominees who have met all the
requirements and qualified as candidates for the March 9, 1993 election are as
follows:
For Mayor:
Robert Brown
David Floering
Edward Harmening
Gene Moore
Dee Zibelli
For District I:
For District III:
David Katz
Shirley Stevens
Jose Aguila
Bob Grieco
Lee Wische
Reading of General Election Proclamation
Mayor Weiner read portions of the Proclamation as follows:
"I, Arline Weiner, Mayor of the City of Boynton Beach, Florida, do hereby
proclaim that a General Election will be held in the City of Boynton Beach,
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Palm Beach County, Florida, on the 9th day of March, 1993. This election
will be held to elect one Mayor-at-Large, one City Commissioner from
District I, and one City Commissioner from District III, each to serve a
two year term.
and
A Special Bond Referendum Election will be held at the same time to vote
YES or NO on the following question regarding a $1,900,000.00 Bond Issue
for a P~-~lic High School:
Shall the City of Boynton Beach, Florida, issue not exceeding $1,900,000.00
of its General Obligation Bonds maturing not more than ten (10) years from
the date of issuance, bearing interest not to exceed maximum legal rate,
payable from City ad valorem taxes, to pay costs of capital projects for
water, sewer and road infrastructure improvements for construction of a
public high school in the City located at Congress Avenue and Old Boynton
Road described in City Ordinance No. 093-1."
The proclamation sets forth all of the polling places that are open for the
voter in the City of Boytnon Beach.
Approval of Pollworker$
Ho~lon
Commissioner Aguila moved to accept the list of pollworkers. Commissioner
Harmening seconded the motion which carried 3-0.
#o~lon
At 6:21 P. M., Commissioner Aguila moved to recess until 5:00 P. M. on
Wednesday, February 10, 1993 to finalize selection of the architects for the
Mangrove Park project. Commissioner Harmening seconded the motion which carried
3-0.
THE MEETING RESUMED AT 5:00 P. M. ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1993.
PRESENT
Arline Weiner, Mayor
Lynne Matson, Vice Mayor
Jose Aguila, Commissioner
Edward Harmening, Commissioner
Robert Walshak, Commissioner
J. Scott Miller, City Manager
James Cherof, City Attorney
(Arrived at 6:02 P. M.)
Sue Kruse, City Clerk
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Weiner called the meeting back to order at 5:02 P. M. on Wednesday,
February 10, 1993. Mr. Cherof was not yet present. Mayor Weiner advised
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Comm~issioner Walshak that he is welcome to sit in; however, it is her
understanding from the City Attorney that if one had not been present for the
presentations, one cannot vote. Commissioner Walshak stated he was going to
vote.
MAYOR WEINER DECLARED A RECESS AT 5:03 P. M. UNTIL THE ARRIVAL OF THE CITY
ATTORNEY. THE MEETING RESUMED AT 6:02 P. M.
Mayor Weiner explained that a Special City Commission meeting was held last
night. Three firms made their presentations to be the engineers for the
Mangrove Park project. Their presentations were more substantive than the
presentation books they presented to the City Commission. Some of the firms
presented the City Commission with additional written information. Their
presentations were much larger than their written presentations. Vice Mayor
Matson could not stay for the entire presentation and asked the City Attorney if
it would be all right for her to stay for part of the presentation and vote
before leaving. The City Attorney made a ruling that if she was there for part
of the presentation, she could vote. However, after tallying the votes, there
was a tie between two firms. Since Vice Mayor Matson was not present, another
vote could not be taken to break the tie. Therefore, the meeting was recessed
until February 10, 1993 when the four members of the City Commission who were
present during the presentations could be seated once again. Tonight,
Commissioner Walshak demanded his right to vote, even though he had not sat
through the presentations. Mayor Weiner was fearful that if Commissioner
Walshak votes without having been present for the presentations, the firms who
are not chosen may claim they have been denied their right to make their presen-
tations in front of a full Commission.
Mr. Cherof advised that Commissioner Walshak is under a duty to vote under the
Statute, unless he has a conflict of interest and makes his proper disclosure.
He advised that Commissioner Walshak cannot, through any procedural device, be
precluded from voting at a meeting he is present at and where a vote is taken.
He further advised that this is to be distinguished from last night's meeting
where we were really dealing with a procedural point rather than a legal point.
Last night the City Commission accepted the Vice Mayor's ballot early in the
process. They acknowledged that she had been there and agreed procedurally to
accept her ballot, even though at the conclusion of the meeting, she was not
present.
Mr. Cherof recognized the point Mayor Weiner raised with respect to the poten-
tial for a displeased applicant to raise either a procedural or legal point.
Mr. Cherof felt the City Commission is on sound ground with respect to
Commissioner Walshak's right to vote and felt there are a couple of options open
to the City Commission. One is that the City Commission afford Commissioner
Walshak the opportunity to listen to the tapes of last night's meeting and to
review whatever material was made available and filed with the Clerk at that
meeting and address the matter at the next City Commission meeting or a special
meeting. Alternatively, the City Commission could require the applicants to
come back before the entire Commission and make their presentations all over
again. Forcing the applicants to go back through the entire process again will
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probably eliminate the possibility of one of them claiming fowl on either a
procedural or legal point.
Vice Mayor Matson wondered what would prevent these firms from making different
presentations.
Mayor Weiner pointed out that the City Commission has spent the last two years
being extremely cautious about the legal problems that arise and have bent over
backwards to go Very carefully to protect the City as much as possible from
legal actions as a result of something the City Commission does or does not do.
She asked the Commission to again exercise that extra degree of caution.
Motion
Mayor Weiner passed the gavel and moved that the three firms be asked to make
their presentations again before the entire City Commission and that another
vote be taken. Commissioner Aguila seconded the motion which carried 4-1. Vice
Mayor Matson cast the dissenting vote.
Mayor Weiner pointed out that there is a time problem with this project. She
directed Mr. Miller to contact the three firms involved. It was the consensus
of the City Commission to have the three firms make their presentations again on
Tuesday, February 16, 1993 at 4:30 P. M.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, Commissioner
Aguila moved to adjourn the meeting at 6:13 P. M. Vice Mayor Matson seconded
the motion which carried 5-0.
THE CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH
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