Minutes 09-05-97MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING HELD IN
CONFERENCE ROOM "C,, WEST WING, CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH,
FLORIDA, ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 1997, AT 2:00 P.M.
PRESENT
~nton BeaC~h
Gerald "Jerry" Taylor, Mayor
Jamie Titcomb, Vice Mayor
Matthew Bradley, commisSioner
Shirley Jaskiewicz, Commissioner
Henderson Tillman, Commissioner
Ocean Ridge
George Stamos, Mayor
Digby Bridges, Vice Mayor
Gall Adams Aaskov; Commissioner
Ken Kaleel, Commissioner
Chris O'Hare, Commissioner
Kerry Willis, City Manager
James Cherof, City Attorney
Sue Kruse, City Clerk
Charles Frederick, Director of
Recreation and Parks
Karen E. Hancsak, Town Clerk
Chris Edwards, City Attorney
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Taylor called the meeting to order at 2:08 p.m.
DISPOSITION OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY IN OCEAN RIDGE
At the last meeting, the desires of each community were discussed. Based on
those discussions, Charles Frederick, Parks and Recreation Director, drafted the
City of Boynton Beach's proposal for use of the City-owned property adjacent to
the Ocean Ridge Town Hall. A copy of this proposal was distributed and
reviewed by Mr. Frederick at this meeting.
Mayor Stamos displayed a sketch of the Town of Ocean Ridge. He felt there is a
misconception about how much property is available in Ocean Ridge for public
use. He stated that Ocean~ Ridge has more public use than Manalapan,
Gulfstream and Delray Beach, and Pointed these areas out on the sketch that
was displayed.
He pointed out the small parcel that the Town Hall is built on and the parking lot
and stated that it has been that way for years. He stated that Ocean Ridge might
own that property because it has used it for years and because there is no beach
parking On it now.
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He referred to the major beach renourishment program that everybody in
Boynton Beach is going to enjoy and stated that that was done by a tremendous
effort on the part of the Commission of Ocean Ridge and others, He stated that
the park owned by Boynton Beach is going to benefit from that renourishment
program.
He explained the Commission of Ocean Ridge's proposal. Ocean Ridge owns
50 feet of oceanfront property on the south end of the park where Boynton
Beach's park is. It is a green area and the people of Boynton Beach have been
usin9 it for years. It is an easement area for public use. The Commission of
Ocean Ridge offered to give the City of Boynton Beach that parcel of property.
According to Commissioner Bridges, the City of Boynton Beach can put an
additional 23 parking spaces on that parcel of property.
The Commission of Ocean Ridge would be willing to allow public parking on the
other parcel, and 30 parking spaces on the other side adjoining the Town Hall,
which they offered to develop with their money. It would not cost Boynton Beach
anything. However, in order to spend their money on it, Ocean Ridge would
have to have ownership of that property. They were willin9 to purchase the
parcel to the north of the Town Hall. They did not want to get into a legal hassle
or let the property sit for years and not be used
Commissioner Kateel explained the concept of trading the two parcels of land for
the 50 feet of oceanfront properzy. This would give the City of Boynton Beach
additional access for their citizens. Additionally, in order to resolve the situation
that the City of Boynton Beach has with /ts parking, Ocean Ridge would guaranty
so many spaces developed on the south side or north side of the property for the
City of Boynton Beach [o use. He felt this is a win-w~n proposition because
based upon the last meeting, the primary concern was parking. Therefore, if
Ocean Ridge assures the City of more parking than they would otherwise get
with the use of that 50 feet of oceanfront space: that should satisfy the City of
Boynton Beach's needs and at the same time satisfy Ocean Ridge's needs by
enabling them to develop that parcel of property to the needs of Ocean Ridge.
The City of Boynton Beach can do what they want with the 50 feet of oceanfront
property. They dO not have to put parking there. However, there is room there
for 23 spaces. Ocean Ridge would pay for the development of the parking on the
property on the west side of A1A and guaranty the City of Boynton Beach access
to it.
Commissioner Jaskiewicz asked if Ocean Ridge has ever considered using that
50 feet of oceanfront property for their own private Ocean Ridge Beach. This
would less necessitate the need for the City of Boynton Beach to expand its
property because many of he Ocean Ridge residents take advantage of the
parking and the beach.
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Commissioner Kaleel stated that if this proposal were not accepted, Ocean Ridge
would do something with that parcel of land. He did not feel that the residents of
Ocean Ridge use Boynton Beach's parking lot to the extent that the citizens of
Boynton Beach or others use it. The residents of Ocean Ridge do not have the
need to use it as much as the residents of Boynton Beach do. A majority of the
residents live on the north side of Ocean Ridge and live in walking distance of the
beach. In addition, they all have walking easements and beach dghts along the
beach On the south end of the property, people go to the south end of Ocean
Ridge along old A1A. Ocean Ridge does not have the same need for that
parking as Boynton Beach does.
Commissioner Bradley asked if the 50-foot parcel has been appraised. Attorney
Cherof advised that it has been appraised at $345,000 and is zoned for
residential.
Commissioner O'Hare felt the lot would probably be more valuable if Boynton
Beach took it and used it for the public good. He pointed out that it is adjacent to
Boynton Beach's park and 23 parking spaces could be put there.
Commissioner Kaleel advised that the parcel north of the Town Hall was valued
at $160.000, and the parcel south of the Town Hall was valued at $105.000.
Vice Mayor Titcomb inquired about the square footage between the south lot and
each adjacent lot Commissioner Kaleel advised that the City of Boynton Beach
would be able to put 23 parking spaces on the east side and about 30 on the
west side. for a total of 53. Under Boynton Beach's proposal, Boynton Beach
would only get about 30 spaces. Ocean Ridge's proposal allows Boynton Beach
to get more spaces and gives them an oceanfront parcel.
Vice Mayor Titcomb referred to the south lot and asked if Boynton Beach would
have deeded access to those parking spaces if Ocean Ridge were to develop
them. Commissioner Kaleel advised that there would be an interlocal
agreement, deed access, or whatever the attorneys work out. Ocean Ridge
would develop the property to suit its needs and would guaranty Boynton Beach
30 spaces. Ocean Ridge did not want to be restricted in developing that land for
its need. Commissioner Kaleel felt Ocean Ridge's proposal is a win/win
proposJtion because Ocean Ridge will guaranty Boynton Beach access and use
of the spaces that Boynton Beach requires, plus additional spaces. In addition,
Boynton Beach would be getting additional value for the citizens of Boynton
Beach.
Commissioner Tillman was not amenable to tearing out a landscape berm to put
in parking.
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Mayor Stamos pointed out that the park is in the Town of Ocean Ridge and falls
under the codes and zoning regulations of the Town of Ocean Ridge. Therefore,
[he Commission of Ocean Ridge can approve parking spaces on that property.
The City of Boynton Beach would not have to spend a nickel. Ocean Ridge is
offering is give the City of Boynton Beach the property and develop a parking lot
on the west side
Commissioner Kaleel added that Boynton Beach has the option of developing the
east side.
Mr. Frederick pointed out that the City of Boynton Beach could get a lot more
than 30 spaces on all of the property.
Mayor Stamos pointed out that the City of Boynton Beach would need the Ocean
Ridge Commission's approval for metered parking. He was not in favor of
metered parking.
Commissioner O'Hare pointed out thal Boynton Beach's population is growing
and this is an opportunity to obtain another 50 feet for the future citizens of
Boynton Beach If a house is built there, it will never be available again. He also
pointed out that previous Commissions in Ocean Ridge have outlawed
commercial development. He wondered if it would be considered a commercial
enterprise if Boynton Beach developed the lot to the south of the Town Hall for
parking and put in meters.
Vice Mayor Bridges addressed the total parking that could be available around
the Town Hall. We could get 38 spaces on the south side of the Town Hall,
planning it properly with a 15-foot landscape buffer for the people. We could get
37 spaces on the north side. and 16 in the rear of the Town Hall.
Commissioner Bradley advised that the purpose of the meters was to regulate
the parking. Discussion ensued regarding how to regulate the parking. It was
decided that this is not a major issue and can be dea rt with in the future.
Mayor Taylor pointed out that the Town Hall could be expanded by making it a
two-story building.
City Manager Willis pointed out the City of Boynton Beach made it clear at the
last meeting that we were not interested in the parcel on the east side of A1A to
the south of the existing park. It is a buffer and is not an appropriate parcel for
parking. Mayor Stamos was totally against metered parking.
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Both Commissions agreed that they need to further review both proposals among
themselves. In addition, they both agreed that the underground gas storage
tanks must be removed.
Mayor Taylor offered to sell Ocean Ridge the north side to do with as they
please. However, he advised that Boynton BeaCh wants some parking on the
south side.
Commissioner O'Hare pointed out that if Ocean Ridge retains ownerShip of the
beachfront parcel, it might not remain a green buffer.
Mayor Taylor suggested the Mayors contact each other and advise each other of
what each COmmission come up with and, if necessary, another meeting can be
called to work out the details.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the City Commission, the
meeting was adjourned at 3:15 p.m.
CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH
ATTEST:
Cite'Clerk '
Recording Secretary
(Two Tapes)
Mayor _
ommissio~r/
Commissioner
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