Minutes 06-25-91 SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING
HELD IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS,
CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
ON TUESDAY, JUNE 25, 1991 AT 7:00 P.M.
PRESENT
Arline Weiner, Mayor
Edward Harmening, Vice Mayor
Lillian Artis, Commissioner
Jose Aguila, Commissioner
Lynne Matson, Commissioner
James Cherof, City
Attorney
Scott Miller, City
Manager
Sue Kruse, City Clerk
PURPOSE
Mayor Weiner called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and
explained the purpose of the meeting was to interview con-
sultants for the creation and implementation of a stormwater
utility. Later in the meeting, Education Advisory Board
appointments will be made.
The presentations were made one at a time as follows:
Camp Dresser & McKee Inc.
800 Brickell Avenue, Suite 710
Miami, Florida 33131
(305) 372-7171
Dr. Armando Perez is the designated Project Manager. He
thanked the Commission on behalf of his staff for allowing
them to present their ideas. Dr. Perez presented a map
which showed the Camp Dresser experience in stormwater uti-
lity studies. They have a leadership role in the State in
this regard. He introduced the staff in attendance at the
meeting. Alan D. Wertepny, with Mock, Roos & Associates,
Inc, is very familiar with the area and has worked with the
Lake Worth Drainage District. Nilo Priede, known as the
"grandfather~of stormwater utilities in Florida, Terry Lewis
who knows the area quite well and would assist Camp Dresser
and the city Attorney in the preparation of the stormwater
utility Ordinance.
He then explained the project. In the RFP, there are two
main areas where Camp Dresser would be involved. One is a
comprehensive stormwater master plan and the other is the
funding study with its different phases. It was his feeling
that not many capital improvements would be necessary in the
master plan. There is nuisance flooding, but nothing major.
However, they would look at the needs of the City and orga-
nize them particularly as they intergrate with the federal
government requirements on water quality.
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A schedule was displayed for the Commission. This schedule
is dictated by the federal government and is for all of Palm
Beach County. Part I of the federal program is to be sub-
mitted in May, 1992 and the second part in May of 1993.
Part II calls for a Master Plan that will deal with water
quality issues. Camp Dresser will try to integrate all of
this since it must be done anyway at this time.
The permitting process calls for a discussion of how to
obtain and use the money to implement the water quality
controls. In May, 1992, it calls for a discussion of finan-
ces and a financial plan must be submitted in May, 1993.
Camp Dresser feels this ties in very well with the idea of a
stormwater utility. The federal program will serve as a
basis to educate the public.
With regard to the scheduling of the stormwater utility,
they would start the utility at approximately the same time
as the Master Plan. It does not have to start at that time,
but they are willing to start whenever the Commission
chooses.
Dr. Perez explained that a stormwater study is usually
divided into two parts. Part I is a rate study. The need
for a stormwater utility is investigated. Then the revenue
base is investigated to cover the cost of the needs. For
the revenue base, they use a yardstick called an Equivalent
Resident Unit which is the average amount of paved area in a
single-family area. To determine this, a "footprint" of the
building area is looked at. This includes the area of the
roof and driveway which is added together and a statistical
study of the City is done to come up with an average equiva-
lent residential unit. This becomes the yardstick by which
other impervious areas are measured such as shopping centers
and parking lots, institutional areas, etc. They then
figure out how much needs to be charged for each equivalent
residential unit (ERU) to cover the costs.
When this is completed, the Commission would then review the
results and recommendations and decide if the City would
like to go forward with the stormwater utility. If the
decision is to go ahead, the next two parts would be
necessary. A billing system would be necessary. This could
be accomplished through using the water and sewer billing in
use now. Another alternative is to use the Tax Collector's
office; however, this is confusing to the public. Secondly,
all non-residential areas such as parking lots and churches
would have to be verified. The project would then be
completed. This could be done within twenty-four months.
it has been done in a lot less time.
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At this point, Commissioner Aguila asked about the twenty-
four month period and what the federal government is looking
for in May, 1992 and May, 1993. Dr. Perez explained that
the federal government does not require the City to have a
stormwater utility in place by May of 1993. A revenue
source must be identified; however, Camp Dresser thinks it
would be to the City's advantage to have a stormwater uti-
lity in place by that time or be underway in the process.
They feel the timing is right and the public understands the
need for this. However, it is not compulsory. Dr. Perez
explained that you bill people according to the paved area
at their house.
Vice Mayor Harmening stated that basically, the tax based on
the size of the house would generally take into account that
much impervious area. He feels there is not that wide a
discrepancy between the tax or stormwater utility. Mr.
Priede stated that the only exception is that not only resi-
dential was being billed, but all impervious is being
investigated in the City and the tax exempt areas in the
City contribute a great deal to the problem. Mr. Priede
stated that their job is to analyze the situation for the
City and point out the various options available. If the
cost is too high to implement, then it will not be
equitable. It is most important to have a knowledge of what
ils trying to be done. It will be the City's decision in the
end. He stated that the breakdown of the parcels is very
important. There are three types of customers; developed
property, roads and streets with no development on the pro-
perty, but the run-off is impacting the City, and the unde-
veloped property. All of these must be investigated. The
billing system is the next most important phase. They want
the public to understand that this is not a tax, but a user
fee based on a characteristic that has been developed. The
billing system must be compatible. The Federal government
requires in May of 1992 that the City document the source of
revenue. The City will be negotiating with EPA-Atlanta a
permit that says the City will do certain things in opera-
tion and maintenance, things in terms of improvement of the
system and all must be done within five years. The public
must be informed.
Alan Wertepny then discussed the engineering part of the
program. He spoke about the collection of data that is
important. The City will be inventorying the City system.
?~ere are the collection systems that feed into U.S. waters.
U. S. Waters must be identified. It is required that Palm
Beach County and the Department of Transportation par-
ticipate in this permit. They will also have to inventory
their system and this information will be very useful to the
City of Boynton. Northern Palm Beach County Water Control
District is a lead institute for the MPDES permit.
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At this time, twenty-seven municipalities have signed the
agreement with Northern Palm Beach County Water District and
Boynton is in the process now of finalizing an agreement.
Mock, Roos is the Engineer for Northern Palm Beach County
Water Control District. They will be involved in the coor-
dination and assistance of the permitting process. He
showed the Commission a map showing the drainage system.
Information was also identified with regard to the Lake
Worth Drainage System and roadways. This information will
be available for Boynton Beach use. He stated that Mock,
Roos has been the Engineer for over thirty years for the
Lake Worth Drainage District. They have detailed infor-
mation on the canal system. They have done computer moni-
toring of the system which will be useful in the stormwater
master planning. They have done a complete Stormwater
Master Plan for the City of Lake Worth. They are now under
construction with approximately 75% of the system being
constructed.
In closing, Dr. Perez left a summary of Camp Dresser's
qualifications. He explained that they meet all of the
requirements that were listed in the Request for Proposal.
They are capable and very confident and know they can carry
out this assignment.
Commissioner Artis asked Dr. Perez about improvements to the
areas. Mr. Guidry explained that the improvements would be
in compliance with the Master Plan which would have to be
approved by the City Commission. Camp Dresser's job is to
inform the Commission of the requirements regarding dates to
comply with the government regulations. The Master Plan is
a document which allows local governments to make specific
~unding requirements.
There were no further questions for these gentlemen.
Gee & Jenson
One Harvard Circle
West Palm Beach, FL 33409-1923
(407) 683-3301
Mr. Richard Staudinger of Gee & Jenson, presented a booklet
to the Commission. He introduced members of the staff that
would work on this stormwater utility. He introduced
Messrs. Paul Mercado, ji-Ang Song and Richard Warren of Karo
& Warren, Inc. If chosen, his role would be Client Manager
where he will interface with the client and the company to
be sure the resources are committed to get the job done
right. Fred Green, Chairman of the Board of Gee & Jenson,
will be the principal in charge. He worked with Disney in
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1965 in Disney World and they are still the drainage engi-
neers. Ji-Ang Song will be the Project Manager. Mike Rocca
does all of the rate studies and Dick Warren will handle the
interfacing with the computer programming and implementation
of the program.
Mr. Staudinger explained that a stormwater utility is a user
fee funding mechanism for a utility. It makes stormwater
systems on par with the water and sewer system. This is a
system by which people who are creating a run-off situation
are charged for that system. Their past experience is very
numerous and includes stormwater rate studies, which is a
key component, stormwater master planning and water and
sewer rate studies.
Ji-Ang Song explained that this is a very important project
to the City and to the consultant. He has done work in the
past for the City. He felt that some of the local issues
are the protection of properties from flooding, land use
issues, erosion sedimentation problems and water quality.
Funding is necessary to handle these issues. He went on to
explain the "footprint" management initiated by the Federal
Emergency Management Agency. He stated that he was aware
that the City is making application with the county for per-
mitting and the study by Gee & Jenson will be comparable to
MPDES and will be able to be used later on. The funding
required to address the issues consists of public education
and water quality. Operation and maintenance costs will be
substantial along with the important issues of capital
improvements and enforcement. This ultimately leads to
better water quality.
To support the funding need, funding options have been used
such as inter-fund transfers, general tax revenues, tax
bonds, etc. Their suggestion at this time is to discuss
user fees. He explained that Dick Warren had the foresight
to initiate a stormwater utility in Bellevue, Washington.
From there, many cities are now using this concept. In
Florida, it is a very popular concept. He has done
hundreds of stormwater utility projects during his career.
He explained the technical approaches. He claims there are
four phases. Phases I and II are the leading phases. In
Phase I, the needs will be defined through a water manage-
ment plan. They will design this phase so that all the
material will be comparable to meet the EPA and MPDES per-
mitting for submittal. Phase II will be the implementation
of the billing system. That will include public information
programs. He felt this might be accomplished through a
newsletter. When money begins to come in, the remainder of
the project can be accomplished. During Phase III, a
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detailed comprehensive Master Plan can be done and plans for
capital improvements. Phase IV will implement the capital
improvement plan and water quality program. They feel
Phases I and II will be done within a twelve-month period.
This can change based on the City's need.
Mr. Richard Warren spoke about working with funding for
water quality. He felt this is a business decision. He
felt the City knows they have a problem which has a certain
monetary need and operational need.
Vice Mayor Harmening asked how we know we have this problem.
It has not been identified as yet. Mr. ~Warren felt that the
City would not consider this unless it was somewhat con-
cerned. Mr. Warren suggested that the consultants can help
the City define any problems that exist. If the need exists
for a stormwater utility, funding will be necessary. Mr.
Warren stated that once the need is established, they look
at how much needs to be spent. They will then decide on an
equitable rate structure for users. The public must
understand this system. The system must fit into the com-
puter capability. There is a basic charge, drainage opera-
tion and maintenance, capital costs and the ability to
asses water quality charges against land use. If the need
is here, he can help work through an equitable program.
In closing, Mr. Staudinger said that Gee & Jenson should be
selected because of the team and their familiarity with the
City. They have worked with the City on drainage and street
issues. They have a great deal of knowledge and are sen-
sitive to local concerns. Public information programs are
very important. He distributed a brochure to the Commission
which was used in Delray Beach. The public must understand
why this program is benefitting them.
There were no questions from the Commission.
Williams, Hatfield & Stoner, Inc.
1325 S. Congress Avenue, Suite 118
Boynton Beach, Florida 33426
(407) 738-0133
Mr. James Eberhart, Senior Vice President of Williams,
Hatfield & Stoner, Inc., made the presentation. He intro-
duced Nancy Lee Hurlbert who has been with the firm for
seventeen years. She would act as Project Manager.
Augustin Maristany has ten years of experience in surface
water management. He has just completed development of the
City of Tallahassee's Comprehensive Stormwater Master Plan.
Jim Scholl is responsible for developing DOT's State
Drainage Manual. He completed a stormwater utility for the
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City of Gainesville recently. Wayne Welch has fifteen years
of experience and public involvement.
He explained that they would like to be considered on the
three following items: 1) qualifications, 2) location, and
3) commitment. They have provided engineering services in
South Florida for over thirty-three years. CH2M Hill brings
to Williams, Hatfield & Stoner the scientists that will
supplement the engineers in addressing the complex issues of
the MPDES permit. Between the two firms, there are over 140
professionals. Their locale is important. They are local.
They are the only engineering firm in Boynton Beach. Being
local, they have a commitment to the project. They will
make this the 91 priority project out of their Boynton Beach
office if chosen.
Nancy Hurlbert spoke about the purpose of the stormwater
utility. She explained that it funds stormwater-required
improvements. She stated that the City, in its Comp Plan,
stated that by June 30, 1991, they would have a Master
Drainage Plan prepared and implemented in the City. This is
a required improvement. It would also address upgrading of
existing utilities and water quality issues. By December
31, 1991, the City would amend the Comp Plan to incorporate
the findings of the Master Drainage Plan. The improvements
will be identified, prioritized and a cost will be asso-
ciated to these improvements. The capital improvements ele-
ment of the Comp Plan needs to be amended to incorporate the
required improvements. These requirements are self-imposed.
At this point, Vice Mayor Harmening stated that it was CH2M
Hill who did the utility portion of the Comp Plan and they
locked in storm drainage like it was the only ultimate thing
in the world and no one in the City had the wit to tell them
to rewrite it.
She responded that there is probably a very definite reason
why they had to obligate those certain commitments. Vice
Mayor Harmening said there was no reason at all and DCA
would have passed it. She asked to explain a third obliga-
tion. She stated it is not self-imposed. It is a federal
mandate, the MPDES permit, which is due in May of 1992.
That permit requires extensive documentation compilation,
field screenings and field inspections. They are extensive
and have a cost factor involved. A means of funding a
Master Drainage Plan, a means of funding the MPDES permit
submittal could be a stormwater utility. They suggest that
there is a need for a stormwater utility in the City.
In attempting to prove the need for a stormwater utility,
Ms. Hurlbert referred to a display. They looked at one
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square mile of the City where City Hall is today bounded by
Boynton Beach Boulevard and Woolbright, 1-95 and Federal
Highway. They expanded this initial look to estimate the
implications the Master Drainage Plan and the MPDES permit
may have on the one-square mile. They added catch basins to
alleviate local flooding. They also added catch basins con-
nected with French drains to treat water quality in the
multi-family areas and commercial areas. The entire City
encompasses approximately 15 1/2 miles. Assigning costs to
this, they estimated these improvements in the one-square
mile could approximate $200,000. The means of a stormwater
utility is not only to fund required drainage improvements,
but can fund the permit process, the operation and main-
tenance on a daily basis and the administration of the
stormwater utility. They estimated that the City would be
looking at an annual cost of approximately $650,000 per
year.
Vice Mayor Harmening asked Ms. Hurlbert if what she was
saying is that it is broken and it will cost the City
$650,000 per year. He claims that the City doesn't even
know yet if the EPA is going to require it. She responded
that this is part of the process. From her experience, they
have a good indication that there are problems in every
city.
She went on to explain how the $650,000 expenditure is
funded. The mainline basis of a stormwater utility is based
upon a single-family lot, that is an Equivalent Residential
Use. In the original one-square mile, they identified some
random single-family lots and calculated the impervious
areas on those lots and came up with an average which is a
base line. Based on the single ERU, they identified certain
possibilities of assessing different units in four different
categories throughout the City. There is an impact from the
Vacant areas which is approximately a 30% run-off. They
have estimated that there are 37,391 ERUs in the City
through the first quarter. Assuming that the stormwater
utility is implemented, and assuming $1.00 per month per ERU
is used, the rate structure varies anywhere from $ .50 per
ERU per month to $4.50 per ERU per month. $2.50 is the
average. If they assess at $1.00 per ERU, the City could
realize just under $500,000 in revenue. She then compared
this to other utilities being paid by the constituents in
the City. She felt this is a very small amount to charge
the public
She suggested an early implementation of the stormwater uti-
lity because of the possiblity of that $650,000 annually and
the MPDES permit. All issues need to be addressed. By
implementing this early at a negligible rate, this allows
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for seed money to pursue other issues. One of the most
important issues is the public information program. This
program cannot be successful if the community has not bought
into the overall plan. Community support must be achieved.
Some of the things Williams, Hatfield & Stoner, Inc., would
do would be to handle the public information program. They
would set up a public advisory committee which would be
available for workshops and council meetings. They could
even attend homeowner's association meetings and community
boards to present the benefits of a stormwater utility. Ms.
Hurlbert stated that the public often asks if this is just
another tax. Their response is that this is a user fee.
When the public information program is won and the public is
behind them 100% and the City is ready to implement the
stormwater utility, they would proceed to identify the
Master Drainage Plan to get a better handle on the real
costs, identify affordable solutions and prepare a capital
improvements plan. The rate structure of a stormwater uti-
lity can be modified as needs change.
In conclusion, she briefly went over what their team would
bring to the City. Being local, they would be accessible
for workshops and meetings and the City staff is accessible
to them. They can quickly begin the program and refine the
database they already have. They have a long-term commit-
ment and a personal interest. They have committed staff for
tlhe public information program as well as committed staff to
the long-term addressing of needs in the City. They know
the concerns and are sensitive to the economic conditions
of the citizens of Boynton Beach. They bring a vast
knowledge of stormwater experience which is more than
creating a rate study. They will see the City through the
entire process and train staff on the implementation. They
bring no conflicts of interest. They feel this allows them
to represent the City personally. She thanked the
Commission for allowing them to present this evening.
Mayor Weiner asked Ms. Hurlbert about her statement
regarding the twenty-nine cities getting involved in this.
These twenty-nine cities are throughout the State of Florida
and fifty-three cities in the State are considering imple-
mentation. Mayor Weiner wondered where all the other cities
were since everyone will be affected by these regulations.
Mso Hurlbert felt that it is just a matter of time because
they have stipulations. The MPDES permit submittal is
looming down on all of the cities.
Vice Mayor Harmening stated that when the EPA finds out how
broke all of the cities in the United States are, they may
have to pull back a little bit. He also asked how long the
French drains last. Ms. Hurlbert responded that it is based
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on the operation and maintenance, but typically about five
years.
Commissioner Aguila asked Mr. Guidry if what we are con-
sidering now is whether or not we want to spend money to do
a city-wide evaluation of what currently exists to determine
whether or not we have a problem. Mr. Guidry stated the
utility fund has been funding storm water. Part of this
rationale is ideal because it raises dollars. If he must
allocate perhaps as an example, $500,000 per year to storm-
water within the system, it is not fair to the water and
sewer rate payer. We are trying to solve this problem. The
other problem is that policy issues were established. We
have gone forward for a review to DCA. The requirement for
the Master Plan Element discussed tonight is~ chiseled in
granite. For that reason, at the last budget session, we
put into the utility budget a funding mechanism to fund
this. From this aspect, we need to move forward with the
Master Planning aspect. The decisions will ultmately be
made by the Commission. The level of commitment and
whethere it will continued to be funded with water/sewer
utility will be decided by the Commission.
Mr. Guidry stated there are several avenues. We have
federal guidelines we must follow and a planning document
that states we must implement a Master Plan based upon engi-
neering judgment outside of staff. We need to make some
hardcore judgments as to where we are going with this storm-
water utility. We need to identify the key areas of expen-
diture and bless them once and for all.
Mayor Weiner stated that this explanation was very helpful.
Scott Miller said that they are not advocating going out and
installing storm drainage structures because you then need
operation and maintenance on them. If you construct miles
o~ them, then you need a full-time crew to maintain this.
He mentioned that one piece of equipment necessary would be
a~ vac truck with both jet and suck which costs approximately
$1108,000. We now have one. One has been advistised for
sale. Swales are very good in a lot of areas in the City
and it was Mr. Miller's opinion to not allow paving of swa-
les because this allows the water to percolate quickly into
the ground. Pre-treatment is not necessary. We must
comply by May, 1992 with MPDES permitting. The stormwater
utility is only a funding vehicle. We must also initiate
the Stormwater Drainage Plan for the City. This does not
have to say that we have to construct miles of drainage. We
m~y need it in certain areas.
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Commissioner Aguila asked for the limits of their respon-
sibility at this stage. Scott Miller stated that they con-
duct a preliminary Stormwater Master Plan for the City.
Commissioner Aguila asked about the dollar issue. How are
we paying them? Scott Miller said that we have program
dollars in the Utility Fund. If we go forth with the
Drainage Plan and stormwater utility fee, Utilities can be
reimbursed out of the stormwater once that is set up and
collections are in.
Since there were no further questions, Mayor Weiner asked
the Commission to vote in the usual fashion. (One, two,
three with three being the last choice and one being the
first choice.) City Attorney asked that each member initial
the ballot for the public record.
The City Attorney and City Manager tallied the vote as
follows:
1. Camp Dresser & McKee, Inc.
2. Williams, Hatfield & Stoner, Inc. & CH2M Hill
3. Gee & Jenson
Mayor Weiner asked Mr. Guidry to inform the consultants of
the Commission's decision.
Mayor Weiner addressed the issue of the appointments to the
Education Advisory Board. She stated that we are faced with
a very real threat with the loss of Poinciana School and we
need to have an entity in place to deal with this. Three
appointments need to be made. Mayor Weiner asked
Commissioner Matson if she was prepared to make her appoint-
ment. Commissioner Matson was not prepared because she had
not received any additional applications and was not
satisfied with what she currently has. She is lobbying
throughout her District and hopes to come up with someone by
the next City Commission meeting. Mayor Weiner stated that
letters went out today to those who were appointed and a
date of July 17th has been set for the first meeting.
Commissioner Aguila appointed Tom Sheehan. Mayor Weiner
appointed Sue Delaney as a COBWRA Member. The Board will
contain two COBWRA Members out of the nine regular members.
Seven regular members and two alternates must be City resi-
dents.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Mayor Weiner adjourned the
meeting at 8:40 p.m.
ATTEST:
Cit~ Clerk
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