Minutes 08-07-90 (2)MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION/GREATER BOYNTON BEACH CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE WORKSHOP MEETING RE PROPOSED HEIGHT LIMITATION
REFERENDUM, HELD IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, BOYNTON
BEACH, FLORIDA, TUESDAY, AUGUST 7, 1990 AT 5:00 P. M.
PRESENT
City Commission
Gene Moore, Mayor
Lee Wische, Vice Mayor
Robert Olenik, Commissioner
Arline Weiner, Commissioner
Chamber of Commerce
Gary Ashcraft,
Executive Vice President
Virginia Foot, President
Craig Livingston
Bill Martin
Doris Pastl
Patt Tompson
J. Scott Miller, City Manager
James Cherof, City Attorney
Sue Kruse, City Clerk
Mayor Moore called the meeting to order at 5:12 P. M. and
turned the meeting over to Mr. Ashcraft.
Mr. Ashcraft stated consideration was given to how they
should tackle the 45 foot height restriction. The Chamber
felt the referendum, as the City Commission initially pro-
posed it, should be held for November. Mr. Ashcraft felt
they should go to the community, have discussions about the
issue, and try to resolve problems. At this point, the
Chamber wanted the Height Ordinance to consider all three
areas: North Federal Highway, Quantum Park, and the Central
Business District (CBD).
Through the Palm Beach County Development Board, Mr. Ashcraft
said nine executives from the Florida Department of Commerce
toured the entire County. There was no reaction to anything
until they arrived at Quantum Park. An international devel-
oper was interested in Quantum Park. If it is decided there
will be no buildings over four stories at Quantum Park, the
area will still be developed, but Mr. Ashcraft reminded the
Commission that competition is tough. He emphasized height
restrictions need to be lifted now. It would be another
selling tool, and Quantum Park is important. Quantum Park
would have quality growth, and Mr. Ashcraft did not believe
they would ever have skylines that would interfere with the
homeowners. He further stated it is imperative that height
restrictions be lifted in the CBD.
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Commissioner Olenik asked whether the tour was after the
City knew about the 1-95 interchange coming through. Mr.
Ashcraft answered affirmatively.
Ed Deutsch, Quantum Associates, stated their intentions for
the future are to build the types of facilities now at
Quantum. He added they must look at the City's overall
picture as well. Quantum thinks the height restrictions
must be considered by the City and its citizens. Mr. Deutsch
stated they would not be opposed if the City did this in
stages. He knew the City needed to initially concentrate on
the CBD. Quantum would not be opposed if the referendum
would be worded so Quantum could follow thereafter, once a
height limitation removal is established in the CBD.
Quantum Park and the City could best be served by removing
the height limitations in the areas before the Commission.
Mr. Deutsch did not think it was imperative that Quantum
come on initially. Quantum thinks the interchange will help
them and give them some incentive and activity.
City Manager Miller informed the Commission the only change
made after he discussed this with Mr. Ashcraft and Mr.
Deutsch was in the corporate park area. He presented a new
map, showing the new limits. Area 2 remained the same. In
Area 3, the eight stories originally on the western part of
the park were eliminted. Any of the corporate park that
abuts the single family and multi-family residential of
Boynton Lakes North has been eliminated.
With regard to eight or ten stories, Mr. Ashcraft wanted the
options to be as open as they could be.
Craig Livingston, Architect, did not think there was any
difference between an eight story and a ten story building.
Rather than one section having eight stories and another
having ten, it would be easier to make it the same height
in the different areas. He did not think two stories would
make an impact. Mr. Livingston thought eight stories would
be adequate.
Calvin Cearley, President, Prime Bank, thought there should
be a referendum with a selection: Yes, no - Downtown;
yes, no - Quantum Park; yes, no - Federal Highway. He
wanted the downtown to have a height limitation of at least
ten stories. At least there would be a landmark building.
If the City Commission says not to go above eight stories,
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built downtown, Mr. Cearley said there will not be ten
story buildings up against each other all along the coast
line, because the density requirements will not permit it.
People do not need to worry about having the Intracoastal
blocked off by concrete walls. There will be plenty of green
space between buildings.
Mayor Moore thought they felt by having the three issues, it
would impede the possibility of any one of them passing.
The first one he would eliminate would be the North Federal
tract. He thought the whole conception of this was to
concentrate on the downtown area. Mayor Moore stated he
would go for ten stories. He added developers would prefer
to go up and keep more green area. Mayor Moore thought they
should discuss whether they wanted to have one or two issues
put to the people.
Commissioner Weiner recalled they had started with four
issues, and she thought all four should be on the ballot.
She did not think Quantum Park should be left out.
Commissioner Olenik agreed with Mayor Moore as to North
Federal Highway. That was also brought out by the P&Z Board
in their discussions. Commissioner Olenik stated he would
probably be in favor of removing Section 4 from the referen-
dum. He could see the desire of Quantum to seek hi~her
buildings in Section 2. Commissioner Olenik thought the
citizens should make the decision as to Section 3.
Vice Mayor Wische agreed with Mayor Moore and Commissioner
Olenik's comments to leave Section 4 off the ballot. He
would go along with having Sections 1, 2 and 3 on the ballot.
If they allow ten stories in Section 2, he thought they
should allow ten stories in Section 1.
City Manager Miller informed the Commission this will come
up on the Commission's agenda for second reading on the 21st
of August, 1990. City Attorney Cherof said they must take
action on the 21st, and he explained. He confirmed Mayor
Moore's statement that he could make changes to the Ordinance
and bring it back on the 21st.
In addition to the heights of the buildings, Commissioner
Weiner wanted to be sure the stories will be clearly
delineated.
Mr. Cearley questioned whether they were saying the
citizens could vote "yes" or "no" for the various Sections,
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and, therefore,
may not pass.
correct.
one Section might pass and another Section
City Manager Miller confirmed that was
Mr. Ashcraft appreciated the Commission's cooperation.
added that the Chamber will be willing to work with any
groups to get information out and listen to any side.
Mr. Ashcraft wanted the Chamber and the City to work
together.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting properly adjourned at 5:35 M.
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