Minutes 05-30-96MINUTES OF THE JOINT CITY COMMISSION/SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD/
PALM TRAN WORKSHOP MEETING HELD IN THE LIBRARY PROGRAM ROOM,
CITY LIBRARY, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, ON
THURSDAY, MAY 30, 1996, AT 6:30 P.M.
PRESENT
Shirley Jaskiewicz, Vice Mayor
Matthew Bradley, Commissioner
Henderson Tillman, Commissioner
Jamie Titcomb, Commissioner
Senior Advisory Board:
Betty Collins, Chairwoman
Raymond Eney
Geraldine Graham
Esther Stranahan
Mary Toth
Mary Cannon, Alternate
Marion Moore, Alternate
Carrie Parker, City Manager
Carel Fisher, Deputy Public
Works Director
Palm Tran
Cliff Hayden, Asst. Director
Wayne Specght, Special Projects
Jeannie Cantelmi, Transit Planner
I. OPENINGS:
A. Call to Order - Vice Mayor Shirlev Jaskiewicz
Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. She welcomed everyone.
B. A.qenda Approval:
1. Additions, Deletions, Corrections
There were no additions, deletions, or corrections to the agenda.
2. Adoption
Commissioner Titcomb moved to approve the agenda as presented. Commissioner
Tillman seconded the motion which carried 3-0. (Commissioner Bradley had not yet
arrived for the meeting.)
Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz acknowledged the fact that the City is aware of the residents'
concerns about transportation. The focus of this meeting is to hear those concerns, listen
to Palm Tran, and try to coordinate with them to meet the needs of our residents. She
advised that the City does not intend to stop bus service throughout the community.
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At Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz' request, everyone present introduced themselves. She
announced that Mayor Taylor is out of the country.
Commissioner Bradley arrived for the meeting.
I1. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
Review Routes [location/maps)
Review timetable for implementation of new routes
Palm Tran representatives distributed copies of route maps.
Mr. Cliff Hayden advised the current transportion service has been in place since 1971.
Since that time, the County has grown and the service is behind the times. In 1989 or
1990, the Metropolitan Planning Organization devised a plan for improved transit service
to Palm Beach County.
In August, 1993, the Board of County Commissioners approved a six-cents gas tax. Three
cents were given to transit and three cents were given to roads. Beginning in late 1993,
continuing through 1994 and halfway through 1995, using the MPO plan, Palm Tran
conducted over 100 public meetings to gather input. After those meetings, over 500
modifications were made to that plan. Some of those modifications have been minor, and
others have been major. This plan has gone through the most intense public input process
that has ever taken place in Palm Beach County.
A totally new system has been devised to serve the County. Thirty-two new routes were
added to the system. Implementation of some of those routes has begun in areas which
are not currently served by transit service. Palm Tran is limited by the number of drivers
they can train at any one time; therefore, this has been a phased implementation which
began in December, 1995. The first new route was a Congress Avenue route which runs
from the Gardens Mall to Town Center Mall. A few new routes have been implemented
each month. On Monday, June 3, 1996, three additional routes will be implemented.
On August 5, 1996, the current operation will cease, and Palm Tran will implement the new
plan which has been in the planning stages for five to six years. There are three main
north/south routes covering U.S. #1 from Jupiter to Boca Raton, Congress Avenue from
the Gardens Mall to Town Center Mall, and Military Trail from the Gardens Mall to Town
Center Mall. The remainder of the routes are primarily east/west routes which feed the
north/south routes and the Tri-Rail stations.
The CoTran system operated every one to two hours or more. Getting from one ptace to
another is very difficult because the system is outdated. The new system is unique. It is
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a timed-transfer system. Major locations throughout the County have been identified
(Boynton Beach Mall, Town Center Mall, downtown West Palm Beach, and other major
destinations). Whenever two or more routes go into those locations, the buses will be
scheduled so that they will arrive at the same time. This means a transfer rider should be
able to get off one bus, and get on the next bus to continue to the destination. All of the
Palm Tran schedules to be implemented on August 5 will be timed transfers.
Mr. Hayden advised that he has gone through this process in the past. He was executive
director in Tampa for 13 years. In 1980, they eliminated a system that was in operation
for approximately 25 years, and implemented a new system. Mr. Hayden realizes that
when this new system is implemented in Palm Beach County, there will be chaos for
approximately the first two to three weeks. Palm Tran has 150 new bus operators and 150
old bus operators who will be taking on new routes. Timed transfers will not be very good
during the' first few weeks. However, Palm Tran is doing everything possible to try to
mitigate the anticiPated problems. The bus rides will be free for two weeks beginning on
Monday, August 5. Sixty-three (63) temporary employees have been hired to assist people
on the timed-transfer system. Palm Tran is also remoting their phones to an information
bank which will be manned with more than the usual number of operators. He urged
anyone with a question to phone them.
Mr. Hayden advised that. on May 10, the Administrator and Board of County
Commissioners agreed that there will be no changes to the system until after August
because there are a multitude of things that must take place in order to change a route.
Palm Tran will accept input and make changes in October or November. Mr. Hayden
further advised that new systems maps will be available within a week or two. He stated
that Palm Tran has been overwhelmed by the requests for schedules; however, they are
expecting the arrival of $168,000 worth of schedule/map printing.
Mr. Hayden introduced Mr. Specght as Special Projects Coordinator. Mr. Specght has
driven every bus route in the County, driven through every parking lot, and has been the
troubleshooter for all of the bus stop sign locations.
Wayne Specqht provided copies of Route 1, Route 2, Route 3, Route 63, Route 70, Route
71, and Route 72. He reviewed each of the routes in detail for the edification of those
present.
Following his presentation of the routes, Mr. Specght advised that when the printed maps
become available, they will not contain abbreviations. All words will be spelled out in full
so as to avoid confusion.
Riders who are 60 years of age or over qualify to ride for half fare (50 cents). Anyone
wanting a transfer Will pay 20 cents additional when boarding the bus. Senior citizens pay
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10 cents additional for a transfer. Mr. Specght reminded everyone that the transfer is only
redeemable to the destination. Mr. Hayden added that Palm Tran has implemented a
weekender pass which is good for any weekend or holiday. The cost of the pass is $5.00
a month, and it is good anywhere in Palm Beach County. Showing a Tri-Rail pass on any
route that serves a Tri-Rail station wilt allow a rider free passage.
Ms. Canteimi, Transit Planner, advised that the routes that affect Boynton Beach will run
every hour. Route 71 has a peak-hour service. From 7:00 a.m. until 9:00 a.m., and from
4:00 p.m. until 7:00 p.m., the bus will run every half hour. The artery routes will run every
thirty minutes. Mr. Hayden said the new service will operate until 9:00 p.m. on weekdays,
and on Sunday from 9:00 a.m. until approximately 5:00 p.m.
Vice Mayor jaskiewicz questioned how the new Palm Tran service will affect the City's
present bus system.
City Manager Parker advised that the City has two routes that are neighborhood oriented.
It was the City's intention to determine how the new Palm Tran routes would fit in with our
routes so that it would be possible to continue the present service, but be able to interface
with the Palm Tran buses. There are no anticipated changes expected until all routes can
be reviewed to see how everything interfaces, and until there is direction from the City
Commission. If changes are needed at that point, the City wilI proceed.
Carel Fisher, Deputy Public Works Director, said the only area that will not be serviced by
Palm Tran will be on NE 4th Street near the Boynton Bay apartments, and up to the
northeast end of Village Royale on the Green. The remainder of the routes currently being
serviced by the City will be duplicated by Palm Tran service. When Palm Tran activates
their route which affects Leisureville, the Bethesda Hospital area, and the area from Ocean
north to the Boynton Beach Mall, it will be exactly the same route the City bus is now
taking.
Mr. Lee Wische questioned whether Palm Tran will service all three clubhouses in
Leisureville. Mr: Specght responded negatively. He said Palm Tran will travel along 18th
Street and stop every two blocks. Mr. Wische expressed concern because not all residents
can get to 18th Street. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz explained that the purpose of this meeting
is to determine whether or not it is necessary to supplement Palm Tran service. Mr.
Wische asked if the City service will dovetail with Palm Tran in the future. Mr. Fisher
pointed out that if it is the Commission's desire, the City can easily alter its routes to
dovetail with Palm Tran.
Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz expressed concern that the Palm Tran route excludes Village
Royale on the Green and Boynton Bay.
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Betty Collins, Chairwoman, Senior Advisory Board, advised that the members of the
board have done a great deal of work on this issue. They have gathered information from
visiting condos, visiting the Boynton Bay apartments, and from manning at booth a the
G .A.L.A.
In 1992, a task force was started. The members of the task force went into the community
to determine the needs of seniors. One hundred percent of the seniors responding
requested transportation. The 1990 census showed that 40% of the residents of the City
of Boynton Beach were over the age of 55. At that time, 16% of the population was over
the age of 75 years. There are tremendous amounts of people who were unable to be at
this meeting because they have no means of transportation.
When the issue of transportation was brought to the City Commission's attention, they
found a way to get buses for the City service. One thousand surveys were disseminated,
and 700 responses were received by the City. The survey indicated that seniors need
transportation for food shopping. That service is still not being provided for seniors. Ms.
Collins explained dilemma experienced by many of the seniors who use the buses to go
shopping. They are left at a stop on the main road because the buses do not go into the
centers. The seniors must walk into the center, do their shopping, and then walk back
(carrying their sacks of groceries) to the bus stop which usually requires crossing the main
road. There are no ramps or shelters and these people must wait for an hour until the bus
returns.
Ms. Collins said she has talked with every major realtor in this City. Ail of the realtors told
her the first question the seniors ask is, "Is there transportation around the City?" The
second question asked is, "Are there activities for seniors?" When families with children
visit the realtors, they choose West Boynton where there are new homes and children. Ms.
Collins advised that in one week, seven people bought in one development. The ages of
those people were 85, 81,82, 83, and 78. People of this age are unable to walk a mile to
a bus stop, do their shopping, and carry two packages back to their homes.
Ms. Collins does not feel it is the working people who ride the buses. It is the senior
citizens who are using the service. Ms. Collins complimented the bus drivers for the
courteous and respectful service they provide. These operators are very sympathetic to
the needs of their riders, but they are limited in what they are able to do. The bus stops
are inadequate, and the time schedule is inadequate. While Ms. Collins realizes that the
buses cannot be a taxi service, she feels it is necessary to look at the ridership to see how
to better accommodate those who use the service. In addition, Ms. Collins pointed out the
need for bus shelters.
Pe.q.qv Stranahan, Senior Advisory Board member, advised that she rode the City buses
to make sure she was aware of exactly where the buses were going. There are two bus
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stops (one on each side of the road) at Bethesda Hospital at Recovery and SW 23rd.
There ~s no place to stand to wait for the bus, and it is a desolated spot. She recommends
that this stop be changed to a location where better use can be made of it. At 18th and
Woolbright Road, the two stops are fine, but it is necessary to go over a very wide swale
area to get onto the bus.
Ms. Stranahan also pointed out that the buses do not go into the shopping areas. The
passengers are eft out on the street. This makes it difficult for the elderly to get to the
store, walk around to shop, and then carry packages out of the store and have to cross a
major thoroughfare to catch the bus.
Ms. Stranahan said the bus that travels north on Congress Avenue to the Winn-Dixie
shopping center on Hypoluxo Road stops on the road that runs behind the center. This is
a very long walk into the center and a very desolated stop. On the return trip, the bus had
to make a left-hand turn onto Hypoluxo Road. It took nine minutes to accomplish that turn
because of heavy traffic. Ms. Stranahan feels this is a very dangerous situation. She
questioned why the bus does not enter the Publix shopping center.
Ms. Stranahan advised that not ail of the bus stops are clearly defined. She suggests that
the bus signs be marked on both sides so that the stop would be more easily recognizable.
Ms. Stranahan feels the buses start too early in the morning. In addition, she feels the
stops should be more accessible for the handicapped.
In response to Ms. Collins' question, Mr. Hayden advised that all of the Palm Tran buses
will be 100% wheelchair lift equipped. However, Palm Tran had to make an emergency
purchase of old equipment while they wait for their new buses to arrive. Not all of the old
buses are lift equipped. Twenty-one of 150 buses are not lift equipped. SpecTran is still
in operation and is being expanded. SpecTran is now in compliance with the ADA rules
set forth by the federal government. Anyone who is ADA eligible is permitted to ride
SpecTran door-to-door seven days a week. Mr. Hayden advised that a person could be
ADA eligible if that person is unable to get to the bus stop because there is no curb cut,
etc. Mr. Hayden offered to assist in this area.
Mrs. Fichtman, a citizen, reported on a situation she encountered with Dial-a-Ride. After
using the service with her legally blind husband, she received a phone call from Dial-a-Ride
stating that she was not entitled to this service.
A gentleman in the audience said he is a resident of a home on Lawrence Road in Boynton
Beach. He moved here from Lakeland where there was no public transportation. He has
experienced some difficulty with Dial-a-Ride because on a few occasions, the rides never
showed up. He contacted CoTran and spoke with Mr. Irving Cure. He is now convinced
that the Director of Palm Tran wants to service the handicapped and aged of Palm Beach
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County. He was very impressed with the responses he received to the questions he asked.
Mr. Hayden explained that Palm Tran is undergoing tremendous change. There are many
people who may not have a long career with Palm Tran; however, it takes time to weed out
the bad ones. Mn Hayden said the operators go through an intensive training program for
six weeks. This training includes sensitivity training to deal with the handicapped.
Mr. Wische pointed out that many disabled people do not know they can become certified
under the ADA. He recommends letting these people know about the services available
to them if they become certified.
Ms. Stranahan explained that the Senior Advisory Board is attempting to get a senior
center within the City. At present, events are scheduled every Thursday at the Madsen
Center. If the buses were able to go past the Library, Arts Center and Madsen Center,
seniors would have transportation to be able to take advantage of our senior center.
City Manager Parker added that when the system began, the City was attempting to keep
on a schedule. If we were to revise the routes and either not adhere so closely to the
schedule, or revise the time schedule, it would be possible for the buses to swing into the
shopping centers. Everyone has to realize, however, that if there is a jam up of people
loading and unloading in the parking lots, the time schedule will be affected. If the
timetable is not a critical issue any longer because we are relying on Palm Tran, then we
might be able to address the issues mentioned.
Ms. Collins feels that if the purpose of our buses is examined, we will be able to see what
the priority is. She recommends that discussions take place with the people who ride the
buses. City Manager Parker said it might be possible to have a Tuesday/Thursday route
that is not the same as the MondayNVednesday/Friday route.
Ms. Collins said she has spent the past year looking at towns that are one-quarter the size
of Boynton Beach that have a smaller percentage of seniors than we have, and they have
senior centers and special service buses catering to the seniors. Ms. Collins read the
Vision 20/20 reports. There was no mention of seniors as an issue for Boynton Beach.
This City has one of the largest senior populations, and those seniors are not going
anywhere. These senior communities have been here 25 years or more. These people
must be provided with the necessities. Ms. Collins is hopeful that Palm Tran will be very
successful; however, she pointed out that the citizens of Boynton Beach need the City
buses to help them get the necessities of life.
Elizabeth Jenkins lives between Boynton Beach Boulevard and the C-16 Canal. She
questioned whether there are any plans for bus routes for this area.
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Commissioner Tillman asked why there is not a route off Boynton Beach Boulevard making
a turn going north from NW 4th Street, traveling up NW 4th Street to 10th Avenue, making
a right on 10th Avenue and returning to Seacrest. Mr. Fisher said the City could not do this
because there were only two buses. The routes were spread as thin as possibl~ to serve
the most people. The City also has one bus known as LiftTran for the handical ~ed, and
the one remaining bus is used as a spare. The north/south routes were designe, to cover
the City facilities. One terminated at Tri-Rail and one terminated at Inlet Park.
C. Restrictions on Use of City Buses, if any
At City Manager Parker's request, Mr. Hayden reviewed the restrictions involve,
use of City buses.
Mr. Hayden advised that the buses were purchased with federal grant funds. T
thumb is "use them, or lose them". The City could have 10 routes that operated
per week, and that would not cause a problem.
D. Options for the City
Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz explained that there is a possibility that all of the conce
expressed can be addressed by the City. The majority of the people pre.~
concerned with local service. The City appreciates Palm Tran's expansion of t[
She is certain that when circumstances are appropriate, the citizens of Boynton I
utilize the Palm Tran buses. The greatest concern this evening appears to be t;'
within our communities. There are many options that can be worked out.
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She suggested the possibility of considering a regional service for specific areas of the City
on specific days. The routes could be broadened and the rigid scheduling could then be
eliminated. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz is concerned about the ninety-year old people who are
driving cars out of necessity. These people do not have an option because they cannot
walk from a bus stop to a grocery store. They are endangering the lives of others. A
regional service may be one way to solve this problem, but residents will have to realize
that the bus will not be available in every area everyday. For those who want to travel on
a more scheduled basis, Palm Tran buses would be available. She recommends that
there be further Commission discussion of this issue, and suggested that the Senior
Advisory Board assist the Commission by providing a proposal.
Commissioner Bradley feels this is a complex issue. When the buses first came to be, the
City struggled with routes and times, and staff worked very diligently on this issue. He feels
it is important to assess what we currently have, and capture the information we have on
the riders who use the system now. It is important not to forget the people who are
currently riding the buses to work. However, a regional service could strengthen our
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neighborhoods by getting people into a community spirit. He asked the residents to think
about the ramifications of haying a Palm Tran bus traveling down the road half filled, with
a Boynton Beach bus traveling right behind it. This will create twice the cost and twice the
effect on the roads. It would be wasteful when we have an opportunity to tap into the
Palm Tran system that is being put in place.
Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz feels the surveys that were taken of the riders are not authentic
because the people who live remote from the bus stops were not included in the surveys.
These people would ride the buses if they were able to do so. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz does
not wish to duplicate the service that is in existence. She is willing to cut down on the rigid
schedule of trying to cover too much space in too little time. She again requested that the
Senior Advisory Board present a plan for the City Commission to consider. Everyone will
be invited to any subsequent meetings in the future.
Commissioner Titcomb said it is very important to gather input from the people who are not
riding the buses rather than the ones who are currently riding them.
City Manager Parker advised that the City was aware that the Palm Tran routes were
anticipated for August. The City realized that we would probably be making major
changes; therefore, we did not want to spend a lot of money printing brochures on the bus
service that would have to be changed in a short period of time. The City has been
operating the two routes until Palm Tran implemented their routes. We were hoping to
interface with a feeder system to Palm Tran or provide shopping routes that fit the citizens'
needs. Funds have been set aside to print brochures and maps, and provide newspaper
ads once a decision is made.
Commissioner Titoomb feels the timing is right to analyze the feedback we receive from
the public and develope a plan to implement a system that will compliment Palm Tran's
service. We can then convene another workshop meeting to set up complimentary routes.
Commissioner Tillman is amenable to looking at those who do not ride the buses. The
County is growing and the City is growing and we will need a big transit system. The City
system will be more community oriented. He does not want to leave any segment of the
community out of the transit system.
Commissioner Bradley feels it is important to talk with the people who are not riding the
buses, but he further feels that the people who are riding the buses are the experts. He
feels he would understand the issues better if he had taken a ride on the bus.
Commissioner Bradley suggested that the City print up survey cards that can be handed
out to the riders to provide us with feedback on how to make the bus system better.
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One of the residents who was present in the audience said the main focus is generally on
service to condos. She is not only interested in using the buses to get to doctors'
appointments and for shopping trips. She wants to use the transportation system for
visiting relatives and friends.
Jim McMahon explained that when he first got involved with the Senior Advisory Board, he
had an interest in transportation. He took the bus from end to end and made a report to
the board. The buses were clean and new. The drivers are wonderful. He feels we have
a great asset in the buses and we have a great opportunity with Palm Tran expanding their
services.
III. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting properly adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
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