Minutes 05-12-05
MINUTES OF THE BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEAlS
MEETING HELD IN THE WEST WING, FIRST FLOOR BUILDING DIVISION
CONÆRENCE ROOM, aTY HALL, BOYNTON BEAOi, FLORIDA, ON THURSDAY,
MAY 12, 2005 AT 6:30 P.M.
Present
Milton Russell, Vice Chair
Michael Bessell
Beverly Agee
Frank Lindsay
Robert Zimmermann
Don Johnson, Building Official
David Tolces, Assistant City Attorney
Absent
Richard Kurtz
A. Call to Order - Milton Russell, VICe Chainnan
Vice Chair Russell called the meeting to order at 6:37 p.m.
B. Acknowledgement of Members and VISitors
Vice Chair Russell thanked the Board members for their attendance and
acknowledged and welcomed Ms. Jodi Rivers, Mr. Wally Majors and Mr. John
Wildner, and Assistant City Attorney David Tolces.
Mr. Johnson apologized for the change of venue, and the small meeting facilities.
Assistant City Attorney administered the oath to all persons who would be
testifying.
c. Approval of Agenda
Motion
Mr. Zimmerman moved to approve the agenda. Motion seconded by Mr. Lindsay
and carried unanimously.
D. Old BÅ“iness
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E. New Business
Applicant:
Reference:
Explanation:
Wally Majors
Southeast Neighborhood Park
Request for relief from Section 403
("Minimum Plumbing Facilities'') of the
2001 Florida Plumbing Code.
Don Johnson, Building Official, presented the item. He stated the Recreation
Department of the City of Boynton Beach was requesting relief from Section 403
- Minimum Plumbing Facilities of the 2001 Florida Plumbing Code. The Building
Division was given a site plan to review, concerning the proposed Southeast
Neighborhood Park. Mr. Johnson referenced number 2 of Section 403.1.1.1 of
the 2001 Florida Building Codes, which defined Assembly Occupancy as: "the use
of a building or structure, or any portion thereof, for the gathering together of
people for purposes such as civic, social or religious functions or for recreation,
or for food or drink consumption or awaiting transportation", and pointed out the
neighborhood park would be considered recreation.
Mr. Johnson noted in reviewing the master plan submitted by the applicant, it
appeared that each picnic table could seat six people. Based on the estimate, he
felt there could be a maximum of fifty-four people using the park at any given
time. He pointed out the park would also have six vehicle parking spaces, one of
which would be handicapped accessible.
Pursuant to Table 403.1 and footnote (a) of the Florida Building Codes, Mr.
Hutchinson stated the Southeast Neighborhood Park would be required to have a
minimum of handicapped accessible water closet and lavatory for men and also
one for women. Mr. Hutchinson pointed out the applicant had asked that the
requirement for restrooms be waived.
Jody Rivers, Park SuperintEndent, thanked Mr. Johnson for his assistance and
thanked the Board for allowing them to bring forth the matter. She explained
the park was located in a neighborhood off of main streets and would only be
2112 acres. Therefore if you did not live in the surrounding neighborhood, you
would not know the park was there. She explained that before they designed
the park; they had four public meetings with the neighborhood. At this meeting,
they investigated the residents' concerns and issues, and their preferences for
the park. They came up with the park design based on discussions at those
meetings. One of the residents' specific requests was not to have restrooms,
because they felt the park would become a gathering place.
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Additionally, Ms. Rivers pointed out the project was barely funded - they had
approximately $580/000 for the project. They planned to put in the underground
piping in case a restroom was wanted in the future. A restroom would cost
approximately $100/000/ and they would not be able to complete the park if they
put it in. That would cause them to lose the $200/000 grant they got with the
state provided the park was completed by a certain date. She also noted there
were six parks in Boynton Beach, three of which were destination areas. These
parks do not have restrooms. She pOinted out the county had just recently
decided not to put restrooms in the infield parks, because they want to keep
them from becoming destination parks. She asked the Board to consider a
waiver of not having the restroom in the park.
Mr. Zimmerman felt since it was a neighborhood park, restrooms were not
necessary because the park would be close to the neighborhood residents'
homes.
John Wildner, Retired City Employee, noted he now works for the Palm Beach
County Parks and Recreation, but he did some of the original planning on the
Southeast Neighborhood Park. He pointed out the county had approximately
100 parks and 20% of them had no restrooms. Many of them were of similar
size to the Southeast Neighborhood Park, and it was not the norm to have
restrooms in every park. He did not think a park was necessarily a gathering
place and felt the Plumbing Code might not apply in that situation. Other
organizations that run parks are not required to have restrooms, and Mr. Wildner
thought if the neighborhood requested not to have a restroom, it would not be
appropriate.
Wally Majors, Reaeation & Parks Director, stated they were prepared to bring
some of the residents in to have them share their feelings about the issue, but
did not in light of the venue change for the meeting and the small area.
However, they did have records of what the residents requested, from the public
meetings.
Ms. Agee referred to the 2001 Florida Plumbing Code, section 403.1.1.1 and
asked if there was an interpretation indicating that the code applied to parks.
Mr. Johnson referred to the site plan and pointed out the structure that seats
four tables under a roof. He stated they were also taking into account the use of
the building, and referenced section 403.1 of the Florida Plumbing Code that
states, "the types of occupancies not shown in Table 403.1 shall be considered
individually by the code official." He noted they had the issue come up before
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with the scrub areas, and have been consistent with their interpretation that a
restroom would be required, because they consider the park to be a recreational
facility. Mr. Johnson pointed out in the Florida Building Code the definition of a
structure is that which is built or constructed.
Mr. Lindsay referred to the last sentence of the Southeast Neighborhood Park
appeal to the Building Board of Adjustment and Appeals, which read, "The plans
for the park include piping so that a restroom could be added in the future if it
were found to be necessary." He felt that was satisfactory.
Mr. Bessell did not think it was necessary to bring up the scrub areas because
that was a different situation. The scrubs did not have a structure or picnic
tables, or a gathering place, or a building. The scrubs had a parking space for a
bus, for short-term tours.
Mr. Johnson agreed there should be no comparisons made because each case,
which comes before the Board is an individual case, and should not be rated on
the merits of a decision made previously.
Mr. Johnson stated the Florida Accessibility Code required parks to be accessible.
The site plan showed there would be parking available, and for up to 25 spaces,
there must be one handicapped spot. There must also be an accessible way for
the public - whether from a road, or a public way. Mr. Johnson felt if it was a
neighborhood park and people would have to go to their homes to use the
restrooms, there was no need for parking spaces. He was concerned about the
difficulties a handicapped person visiting the park would face, should they need
to use a restroom. He also pointed out/ with no restroom facilities, someone
may relieve themselves in the nearest bush, and a parent and a child may be
walking through the area at the same time. Mr. Hutchinson expressed his
willingness to cooperate with Recreation Parks, but he had to look at the issue in
a comprehensive manner and take all those things into consideration.
Ms. Rivers pointed out the park would be completely handicapped accessible.
She also noted they were required to have the six parking places because of the
City Code that relates to the basketball courts. The Planning & Zoning division
said they must have six parking spaces. She reiterated that the decision not to
have a restroom at the park was the request of the neighborhood residents.
Mr. Bessell asked approximately how many people would use the park. Ms.
Rivers stated 15 to 20 children would use the park in the afternoon. She also
pointed out the neighbors would be on watch should anything start to go wrong
at the park.
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Ms. Agee needed clarification on the definition of structure, and asked if there
was any way the park could be viewed as a gathering place not required to have
a restroom under the Code.
Mr. Johnson noted as the Building Official, the Florida Statutes allowed him to
make that decision and interpretation. He determined it was necessary to have a
restroom facility, whether or not there was a "structure", because the park would
be a gathering for recreation.
Ms. Agee asked if it was his position that all parks must have restrooms, and Mr.
Johnson said yes. Ms. Agee stated she went to Fogleman Park, which was in the
City of West Palm Beach, and it was about the same size as the proposed
Southeast Neighborhood Park, and there were no bathrooms.
Ms. Rivers pointed out Fogleman Park had a restroom that was taken out
because it was so badly vandalized and became a place to sell drugs.
Wally Majors noted that even though you have to look at each case individually,
there were no documented problems experienced at Laurel Hills Park on Boynton
Beach Boulevard, which is the same type as the Southeast Neighborhood Park.
Ms. Agee asked why Boynton Lakes Park and Forest Hill Park did not have
restrooms.
Don Johnson stated he was not the Building Official at that time, but noted there
are restrooms directly across the road from Boynton Lakes Park, which are part
of the association. He assumed the Building Official at that time used his
discretion that restroom was close enough to the park. Mr. Johnson pointed out
Forest Hills Park was built approximately 30 years ago.
Mr. Johnson pOinted out there were restrooms at the park on the end of NW 1th
Avenue, which just has a sidewalk and benches. Pioneer Canal Park, which has
a boat ramp and a small park area with tennis courts/ has restrooms. He pOinted
out that even though Laurel Hills Park had no restrooms, there are no designated
parking areas. Ms. Rivers stated that park had shell rock parking, but Mr.
Johnson expressed it was not dedicated parking.
With most recent parks, Mr. Johnson pointed out that Building Officials had taken
the stance they should have restroom facilities.
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Ms. Agee asked why there was a concern that restroom facilities have
maintenance problems. Mr. Majors said it was more an issue about the potential
for negative use, because the restroom is a hidden area. He stated one of the
key elements in designing parks is to keep them visible. Mr. Majors also pointed
out Pioneer Canal Park was one of the few access pOints to fresh water fishing in
Boynton Beach, making it one of the more popular destination pOints in Boynton
Beach. Therefore, it was necessary to put a restroom there. He also pOinted out
Heads Park was used by several hundred senior men on a weekly basis, and
recognizing the need for a restroom, Recreation & Parks decided to have one
built.
Mr. Bessell felt a handicapped individual could sue if they did not have the
restrooms and stated he would like to see the parking spaces eliminated and
shell rock put in so they are not dedicated.
Mr. Johnson stated he told the Recreation & Parks representatives; he would not
have required restrooms if the spaces were not there. However, they could not
eliminate those spaces now, because the Planning & Zoning code required
parking spaces.
Ms. Rivers stated one space would have to be handicapped accessible.
Mr. Hutchinson noted the Florida Building Code has the Florida Accessibility
Code, which is more stringent than the Americans with Disability Accessibility Act
Guidelines (ADAGE). ADAGE has allowed the Florida Accessibility Code to be
written.
Mr. Bressner felt it was important that the handicapped requirements were met.
He asked Mr. Johnson if the City of Boynton Beach had a Handicapped Advisory
Board.
Mr. Johnson stated they did not, but there was a group called Wide Tracks who
visit the buildings and if there is anything that may not meet the Handicapped
Code, they let them know.
Mr. Majors pointed out they often have to deal with inclusion issues, and within
the County there is a tremendous amount of support for them and also for
families who have to find a way to accommodate a child with special needs.
They could look to local agencies who put them in contact with human resources
or other resources to make those decisions appropriately. So as a profession,
Recreation and Parks had a significant relationship with therapeutics.
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Mr. Bressell expressed he was not convinced a waiver was the way he wanted to
vote.
Mr. Lindsay asked based upon the litigation constantly happening, that there was
a possibility if the park was built without the lavatory facility that a person could
come along and may have a disabled child, and bring a lawsuit against the City
for failing to provide that type of facility in a public park.
Assistant City Attorney Tolces pOinted out it would not be a liability on the part of
the City. The City's decision would be in compliance with the Florida Accessibility
Guidelines, as well as within the Federal requirements. He stated people could
sue but that did not mean the City would be liable.
Mr. Zimmermann felt there was an easy solution; to have portable toilets at the
park.
Mr. Johnson stated the building code only allows portable toilets to be used for
temporary events. Assistant City Attorney Tolces pointed out that even if you
could have portable toilets it would be very expensive because you would need
one that is handicapped accessible and then you would also need one for men
and one for women.
Mr. Lindsay asked that assuming the piping is put in, would the expense involved
in putting in the restroom at a later date would be double or triple, if they
determine it was necessary to have a restroom.
Mr. Majors stated it would cost at minimum of about $75K to $80K to put the
restrooms in now, and Ms. Rivers stated it would cost an additional 15% to 20%
should they decide to put it in later.
Motion
Mr. Lindsay moved to grant the appeal and Ms. Agee seconded the motion.
Mr. Bessell stated he would like the City to consult with a handicapped advisor or
individual who is prominent in any field prior to them making a decision.
Assistant City Attorney Tolces stated under the City administrative amendments
to the Florida Building Code, if you were going to modify the decision of the
Building Official you would need four affirmative votes. However, if you were
going to grant a variance different to what the code may require, three
affirmative votes would be required.
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Mr. Johnson asked if it was possible to waive the requirement that the restroom
be built now, but it had to be built within 24 months. Ms. Agee said she would
agree with it but stated she would prefer to add it had to be built within 24
months if it was determined to be necessary.
Mr. Lindsay withdrew his motion, and Ms. Agee agreed.
Motion
Mr. Lindsay moved to grant a variance to Section 403.1.1.1 number 2 of the
2001 Florida Building Code, so long as the necessary utilities are installed to
allow for the installation of handicapped accessible bathrooms for each sex, and
that in 24 months the Board would review the variance to determine if the
bathrooms are required. Motion seconded by Ms. Agee.
Ms. Agee pointed out the City would install the piping now, and the Board would
meet in 24 months with information about the use of the park and any problems,
and that mayor may not result in the 15-20% additional cost to install the
restroom.
Mr. Johnson noted they should put in the appropriate piping required now for
both restrooms, so there would not be added expense at a later date.
Mr. Bessell asked how the case would be reviewed in 24 months, and who would
bring the information back to the Board.
Ms. Rivers stated they would have a public meeting with the neighborhood prior
to the 24-month deadline and get any feedback. They would also be in the park
at least once a week for maintenance responsibilities.
Mr. Majors noted they would also contact the police department to find out if
they responded to any problems at the park.
Assistant City Attorney Tolces pointed out the City would take the affirmative
step to set the Board meeting in May 2007.
The Recording Secretary called the roll and the motion carried 5-0.
Organizational Meeting - Eledion of new Officers
Mr. Johnson stated at the last meeting, they had the election of officers, and Mr.
Robert Mulroy was elected as Chairman and Mr. Milton Russell was elected Vice
Chairman. Unfortunately, Mr. Mulroy never turned back in the sheet for his
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reappointment, so he was no longer on the Board. He explained they would
have to nominate a new Chairperson and Vice Chairperson.
Motion
Mr. Zimmerman nominated Milton Russell as Chairman of the Building Board of
Adjustment and Appeals. Motion seconded by Ms. Agee, and carried
unanimously.
Motion
Mr. Zimmerman nominated Michael Bessell as Vice Chairman of the Building
Board of Adjustment and Appeals. Motion seconded by Mr. Lindsay, and carried
unanimously.
F. Announcements
Mr. Johnson pOinted out he received notice of a new member from the City
Clerk's office, but it was too late to contact him for the meeting, but he would be
present at the next meeting.
He noted Mr. Richard Kurtz was away and not in attendance at the meeting.
G. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting properly adjourned at 7:41 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cû{[)Cl{~Á", '
Catherine Wharton
(Recording Secretary)
(May 17, 2005)
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BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS
CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH
IN RE: APPEAL OF CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL DECISION
660 Las Palmas Parkway
Applicant: W ALLY MAJORS, Director of Recreation & Parks
ORDER REVERSING DECISION OF THE CHIEF BUILDING
OFFICIAL AND GRANTING A VARIANCE
The Appeal of the decjsion of the City of Boynton Beach ("City") Chief Building
Official filed by Wally Majors, Director of Recreation & Parks Department of the City of
Boynton Beach, the "App1icant", was submitted to the City's Building Board of
Adjustment and Appeals on April 22, 2005. The Applicant was appealing the decision of
the City's Chief Bui lding Official to apply Section 403 ("Minimum Plumbing Facilities")
of the 2001 Florida Building Code requiring the Southeast Neighborhood Park to have a
minimum of one handicapped accessible water closet and lavatory for males and one
handicapped accessible water closet and lavatory for females.
The City's Building Board of Adjustment and Appeals reviewed the testimony and
evidence provided to the Chief Bullding Official, and the arguments of Applicant's
counsel, and orders as fol1ows:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1.
Section 108.4 of the Florida Building Code, as adopted by the City,
provides for the procedure relating to appeals of decisions made by the Chief Building
Official to the Building Board of Adjustment and Appeals ("Board").
2.
The Board makes the following preliminary findings:
The Applicant had provided a site plan to the Building Department
to review conceming the proposed Southeast Neighborhood Park
requesting relief from Section 403 of the 2001 Florida Plumbing
Code.
The Chief Building Official reviewed the site plan and determined
that Section 403.1.1.1 number 2 of the 2001 Florida Building Code
required that the Applicant construct restrooms at the Southeast
Neighborhood Park as the proposed use is a recreational
use/facility that will include structures where people will
congregate.
The Applicant has appealed the Chief Building Official's decision
to apply Section 403 ("Minimum Plumbing Facilities") of the
Florida Building Code to his permit applications.
CONCLUSION AND ORDER
1.
After review of the record before the Chief Building Official, the
recommendations and comments of the Chief Building Official, Applicant's testimony
and evidence, the Board hereby detemlines that the Chief Building Official correctly
applied the applicable Code section of the 2001 Florida Building Code requiring the
Southeast Neighborhood Park to have a minimum of one handicapped accessible water
closet and lavatory for males and one handicapped accessible water closet and lavatory
for females.
2.
Pursuant to the authority of the Florida Building Code, as adopted
by the City of Boynton Beach, the Board hereby grants a variance to section 403.1.1.1 ,
number 2 of the 2001 Florida Building Code to allow the construction of the Southeast
Neighborhood Park without the required restrooms, so long as the necessary
infrastructure is installed to allow for the instal1ation of handicapped accessible
bathrooms for each sex at such time in the future, if the Board determines the bathrooms
should he constructed at the Southeast Neighhorhood Park. In twenty-four (24) months
from the date of this Order, the Board shall review the variance to determine if the
Applicant should install the bathrooms at the Southeast Neighborhood Park
3.
The public record, including, but not limited to, the Chief Building
Official's reports, memoranda, comments, and recommendations on the appeal, agenda
hack-up before the Building Board of Adjustment, along with the record established
before the Building Board of Adjustment on May 12, 2005, are hereby incorporated by
reference.
DONE AND ORDERED this __ day of
, 2005 in the City of
Boynton Beach, Florida.
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MILTON RUSSELL, CHAIRMAN
CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH
BUILDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
AND APPEALS
ATTEST: