Minutes 09-26-05
MINUTES OF THE RECREATION AND PARKS BOARD REGULAR MEETING
HELD AT THE SENIOR CENTER, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA,
ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2005 AT 630 P.M.
Present:
Betty Pierce-Roe, Chair
William Orlove, Vice Chair
Patti Hammer
Betty Thomas
Tom Williams
Pam Winters
Wally Majors, Recreation Director
Jody Rivers, Parks Superintendent
Absent:
Janelle Sloan
John McVey, Alternate
Also Present:
Angela Sudano, Member of the Arts Commission
David Katz, Resident of the Windemere, the Meadows, Boynton Beach
I. Call to Order
Chairperson Pierce-Roe called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
II. Attendance
Chairperson Pierce-Roe called the roll and announced a quorum was present.
III. Approval of Minutes of August 22, 2005
Motion
Vice Chair Orlove moved to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Ms. Hammer
and unanimously carried.
v. Unfinished Business
A. Greenways/Sikeways Plans
Ms. Rivers reported that approximately $50,000 to $60,000 is included in this year's CIP
budget for the purpose of doing some construction drawings for the next portion of the
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Palmetto Linear Park Project. There is money in future years for construction and
purchase of property.
Mr. Majors stated staff would continue to identify opportunities for growth. If any
residential pieces need to be pursued, staff will do so. Staff will keep the Board informed
of the progress for the greenways project, since the Board identified it as a priority. The
item will remain on the agenda for this purpose.
Chairperson Pierce-Rose spoke with Vice Mayor McCray since there is a great deal of
greenway/bikeway property in his district. She also informed him about Ms. Budano's
proposed project for the Quantum property. Vice Mayor McCray was unaware of any
intended use for this area.
B. CIP Meeting Review
Mr. Majors noted that the Quantum park site was included in the CIP budget. He
discussed the recent CIP budget that focused upon the entire CIP for the City. He
pointed out the CIP is funded for the next two fiscal years. When they arrive at the third
year, additional funds would have to be found to fund the projects for the third through
fifth years.
The recreation and parks staff is looking at increasing the impact fee and Mr. Majors
noted the City was well below market standards when it comes to impact fees. They are
also pursuing grants for projects.
Mr. Majors pointed out that Mr. Katz was present tonight to discuss a use for one of the
park sites that the Board visited last month.
Mr. Majors pointed out the CIP workshop focused heavily on the Wilson Pool. Over the
past several months some of the latent defects became evident, and after analyzing the
overall condition of the pool, staff brought a recommendation to the City Commission
that it would be feasible to build a new pool. If the existing pool were replaced with the
same type of pool, it would not cost much more than if the existing structure were
modified. It was discovered that a new pool could be built with the current CIP budget.
This could be accomplished by using the funds allocated for a spray ground and
redirecting those funds to the main pool.
The new pool that will be presented to the Commission in October would be designed in
accordance with modern standards. The pool would have a learn-to-swim area, areas
for play and fun, a water slide and water play features resulting in a pool in tune with the
way pools are being used now.
Vice Chair Orlove inquired if there would be a zero entrance. Mr. Majors stated the
entrance would be very shallow since there is not enough room for a "beach entrance;"
however, the entrance would be very shallow to accommodate novice swimmers. Mr.
Majors pointed out new pools no longer have diving wells and from staff's point of view,
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this is something that should be avoided. Mr. Majors reiterated that the new pools are
designed for swimming lessons and play and fun. Ms. Hammer asked about the depth
of the pool and Mr. Majors responded it would average between 3' and 5'. The pool
would come with a water slide and spray and splash features.
Mr. Williams asked if the pool would be relocated, since the current pool is too close to
the sidewalk. When he worked at the pool, it was hard to keep the pool up because of
the close proximity to the road. Mr. Majors noted the pool could not be relocated
because the current pump room would remain and be utilized. The locker rooms will be
modified and another bathroom will be added. Mr. Majors pointed out that the design of
the new pool would be attractive, and new lifeguard chairs, a handicap ramp and a
broader deck to allow parents to watch their children would be added. The pool would
be constructed to accommodate children with limited swimming ability. Mr. Majors
anticipated when the new pool was built, the residents would take ownership and would
not tolerate people vandalizing their pool.
Staff is very excited about the new pool, together with a much-improved Wilson Park
that will be the catalyst for the Heart of Boynton. The old pool would be demolished, but
the new pool would be built in the same footprint.
Mr. Williams inquired if the ballpark would remain and Mr. Majors responded it would be
a multi-purpose park. Mr. Williams thought the pool could have been turned around and
placed in this area. Mr. Majors responded if the pump room had to be replaced, it would
have been cost prohibitive and the pool would not be built. Mr. Williams inquired if traffic
would be redirected away from the pool, except for local traffic. The City is hopeful that
the Heart of Boynton would rejuvenate the community and create pride.
Mr. Majors pointed out the pool was built in 1961 with 1950's standards and now it will
be designed with 2005 standards. Ms. Thomas noted the citizens voted to build a new
Wilson Pool. Mr. Williams inquired when construction would start. Mr. Majors
responded that there is one remaining vacant piece of property that had to be acquired.
After this is acquired, construction could begin. The City has already acquired four
parcels needed for the park.
Chairperson Pierce-Roe inquired how much staff would be required to maintain the
pool. Mr. Majors said a minimum of three lifeguards would be needed. Chairperson
Pierce-Roe recalled that previously, the City had problems attracting lifeguards to work
at the pool. Mr. Majors felt this was attributable to the poor condition of the pool. There
is a nationwide shortage of lifeguards and the City has difficulty filling fulltime positions;
therefore, to fill a part time position at a pool is difficult. However, a brand new facility
should help with recruiting more staff. The pool would actually require five to six
lifeguards. Also, it would be heated and opened year round.
Chairperson Pierce-Roe recommended instituting some kind of incentive program to
attract lifeguards, and Ms. Rivers responded the City does have these types of
programs. Ms. Rivers said staff would be looking at this, especially the salary, in order
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to attract more lifeguards. Chairperson Pierce-Roe felt in the past the City did not
provide enough support to attract lifeguards, compared to other cities. Ms. Rivers also
explained the junior lifeguard programs are lagging in interest from participants, but the
City caters to those that join the program. Ms. Winters commented the shortage of
lifeguards at the City's beach is a problem as well.
Mr. Williams recommended that the person in charge of the pool should be well trained.
Mr. Majors noted that Brett Rolle is a certified pool operator, who will be at the pool. He
also noted the beach captain is a certified lifeguard instructor, so the City could now do
its own certification. He also pointed out the City's beach is only 900' compared to
Delray Beach that has three to four miles of beach. Because of the size of the City's
Beach, a smaller staff is required. The City has eight fulltime lifeguards, whereas Delray
Beach has twice this number. This results in less flexibility to take on auxiliary
programs.
Mr. Majors explained there is a difference between a pool lifeguard and beach lifeguard.
A lifeguard at a pool is in a closed, controlled environment; whereas the beach is open
surf. Ms. Winters felt that ocean lifeguards should earn more money. Mr. Majors
explained ocean lifeguards are usually trained in emergency situations or are
paramedics and receive extra pay for this training. Pool lifeguards are normally first
responders, which is the minimum requirement for this position. Usually after a pool
lifeguard has gained more experience, they like to move up to a beach lifeguard. Since
it is anticipated the pool would be opening in 2007, staff has started plans for
recruitment and training. When a facility is nice looking, it is a more appealing place to
work.
Vice Chair Orlove inquired if any of the Board's priorities were included in the CIP
budget. Mr. Majors responded every City park site was included in the CIP, but no
adjustments between fiscal years could be made, because the priorities in the first two
years are tied to grants or some other form of commitment. Ms. Rivers noted a large
number of projects were maintenance based. With regard to items discussed at the last
meeting, greenways and Wilson Pool were included. Ms. Rivers explained that the
projects in progress had to be completed before moving to new projects. Vice Chair
Orlove asked if Girl Scout Park was included. Mr. Majors noted Girl Scout Park was in
the fiscal year 2008/09.
Ms. Hammer asked about the status of the Boundless Park. Mr. Majors said Boundless
Park is in the October 1, 2005 budget. Ms. Rivers responded it would be funded over a
period two or more years.
Mr. Majors pointed out that there is not an abundance of resources available and there
are priorities the City has to deal with, such as staffing the new fire stations and hiring
new police officers. The Nautica Park Site will also be funded by the developer because
they need the fill from this property.
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Ms. Hammer asked about the equipment at the playgrounds. Ms. Rivers explained over
a period of five years, all park furniture and playground equipment would be replaced.
Mr. Majors also noted the park signs would be replaced.
Discussion took place regarding the usage of the City parks. Mr. Majors noted there
was a large population of Hispanics living in the Pence Park area and he would like to
see this park developed for their use, since it is no longer popular for softball. Currently,
many young Hispanic adults are using the park for soccer.
Vice Chair Orlove asked about the boardwalk at the beach. Staff realizes the boardwalk
needs to be replaced, but Ms. Rivers said it was taken out of the plan because they did
not like the consultant's recommendations. Staff feels there are other alternatives that
should be explored. As a result, an additional $50,000 was allocated to hire another
consultant for this purpose. After that, it could be determined how the City wanted to
proceed.
Vice Chair Orlove inquired if the Arts Commission impact fee would affect the
Recreation and Park's impact fee. Mr. Majors said that it would have no effect.
Mr. Williams asked what the plans were for Sara Sims Park. Mr. Majors felt the
basketball courts would be eliminated because new courts would be built at the Wilson
Center. Mr. Williams also asked if Sara Sims Cemetery would be enlarged. Ms. Rivers
said the Cemetery Board has not discussed this. The Boynton Beach Memorial Park
Cemetery is being replatted, but Ms. Rivers was unaware of any plans for the Sara
Sims Cemetery. Before doing anything, meetings with the neighbors would be
scheduled.
Mr. Majors recommended inviting Doug Hutchinson, the CRA Director to a meeting to
discuss Sara Sims.
v. New Business
A. Recommendations to name new Intracoastal Park Clubhouse
Chairperson Pierce-Roe asked if any more letters have been received in support of
naming the Clubhouse after former City Commissioner Sam Wright. Mr. Majors said this
was a decision the Board had to make it if wanted to move forward with this
recommendation. If the Board wanted to proceed with this, Mr. Majors recommended
that Mr. Williams speak with Lena Rahming who made the request. Mr. Williams said he
would follow through with Mr. Majors request.
Vice Chair Orlove questioned why it could not be named the Royal Palm Clubhouse that
was demolished. Chairperson Pierce-Roe said that the residents of INCA also
discussed five different names for the clubhouse since the clubhouse is located near
their community.
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Ms. Winters inquired how people would know that they could request a name for a City
facility. Vice Chair Orlove did not think it was this Board's responsibility to inform
residents they could recommend names for City buildings. A lengthy discussion took
place on the process of naming buildings or other City locations after people. Mr. Majors
noted a contest was held when a name was selected for "Pond B," but this was done
before the City put a process in place.
Mr. Majors, as well as Mr. Williams, will contact Ms. Rahming to let her know the Board
is contemplating her recommendation for the Intracoastal Clubhouse, but needs more
support and background on Mr. Wright.
B. Quantum Park SitefThe Gardens on Spring Creek
Ms. Angela Budano presented some handouts in conjunction with her PowerPoint
presentation that included areas she visited as follows: The Gardens on Spring Creek in
Ft. Collins, Colorado, the Cheyenne Botanic Gardens in Wyoming, and the Art School at
Colorado State University.
The intent of the presentation was to demonstrate various uses that could be introduced
to the Quantum Park Site owned by the City. Ms. Budano reviewed the sites visited and
the various uses at each site. All kinds of groups utilized the sites, and at one site there
were youth groups performing community service.
Ms. Budano spoke on how the parks were sustainable and able to generate funds to
operate. Many parks had naming opportunities that generated income and the buildings
at the sites were built to be energy efficient. Also funds were generated through bonds,
grants and private donations. The Gardens on Spring Creek have a greenhouse that
was accessible to everyone. Also there were places for meditation and repose.
Individual plots were available for people wanting their own plots for gardening. Most
sites were handicap accessible.
A peace garden was located within the Cheyenne Botanic Gardens. Many sites had
lakes and ponds that Ms. Budano thought could be added to the Quantum Park site.
Also, people volunteered to help with the upkeep of facilities.
The park could also be used for educational purposes for all ages of students. Ms.
Rivers commented that the park had no boundaries and was free form. Ms. Budano
pointed out that all these amenities were located on nine acres that could be easily
achievable with the Quantum Park site.
Having a park of this quality would be open to public art and in one park the garden was
designed specifically for public art. Examples of public art were pointed out. These
parks encourage community pride and demonstrate responsible planting. The Gardens
on Spring Creek has 40,000 visitors each year and is able to provide the flowers grown
in the greenhouse for all City properties.
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The project at Colorado State University was done through a grant and was designed
by a student. Ms. Budano pointed out that the grass was also designed so that people
in wheelchairs could lean over and feel the grass, which is an experience that a non-
handicapped person would take for granted. An art garden was designed by one of the
students that was a wonderful attraction for the park. Ms. Budano thought that many of
the ideas illustrated could be achieved in the Quantum Park site.
Ms. Budano concluded her presentation and hoped it had instilled inspiration in the
Board to recommend moving forward with this project. Ms. Budano has been collecting
brochures to determine entrance fees, membership fees and fund raising activities. She
is studying horticultural therapy, which is taking therapy into the garden.
She thought a good place to start with the garden would be with youth at risk. She has
spoken with Ben Bryant who is in charge of the MAD DADS program in the schools. Mr.
Bryant was very enthusiastic about the project and the vocational applications of the
gardens where students could be educated to be arborists, etc.
Ms. Budano also spoke to Ed Chase who is with the County's Legislative Delegation
and State Representative Mary Brandenburg about funding. She was informed that she
could apply for a Community Budget Issue Request. FRDAP funding could be sought
once the current FRDAP grants have been completed. Mr. Katz pointed out the
availability of County (Recreational Assistance Program) funds. Mr. Majors said County
RAP funds are a good source of funding and the County Commissioner in that district
would have to be determined. Members thought that Warren Newell would be the
County Commissioner for that District.
Mr. Majors said if the Board liked the concept presented by Ms. Budano and felt it was a
viable alternative for the Quantum Park site, the next step would be for the Board to
endorse it to determine if it could become part of the City's plan for future development.
Chairperson Pierce-Roe pointed out the proximity of the site to Boynton Beach High
School. Since students must perform a certain number of hours of community service to
graduate, the park would be accessible for this purpose. It is close enough to the school
to provide a great teaching experience by introducing students to this kind of
environment.
Ms. Budano was going to be joined at tonight's meeting by a woman that worked at
Home Depot and had operated a children's garden in Boston. She has a Bachelor's
Degree in Horticulture and a Master's Degree in Entomology and is very interested in
this project.
Chairperson Pierce-Roe noted during previous discussions the Board discussed having
a bamboo entrance at Congress Park. She thought that some of Ms. Budano's ideas
could be introduced at Congress Park as well. Ms. Rivers announced that four
landscape architectural firms would be on contract by the City to use on an lias needed II
basis. One of those firms would be selected for Congress Park. After staff receives input
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from all the focus groups, the findings would be brought back to the Board. Currently,
staff does not know what the concept for this park would be.
Mr. Majors felt if the Board liked Ms. Budano's presentation for an intended use of the
Quantum Park site, it would be beneficial if the Board endorsed the concept. This was a
great opportunity to introduce something very new and unique in the City. Chairperson
Pierce-Roe would like to have all City parks have some type of boundless equipment so
all parks would be accessible to everyone. She thought what Ms. Budano was
introducing was new and would be suitable for the Quantum Park site.
Motion
Ms. Thomas moved that this Board should encourage Ms. Budano to continue with her
ideas to bring new activities and projects into the City. Motion seconded by Ms.
Hammer.
Mr. Williams felt this would be an excellent opportunity for students during the summer
months. Vice Chair Orlove inquired if the Quantum Park site was included in the CIP
budget. Mr. Majors stated it was in the plan several years away.
Vice Chair Orlove inquired if there were grants available. Ms. Budano responded there
is a great deal of funding available through the juvenile court system for these kinds of
programs. They encourage communities to pursue them. Vice Chair Orlove also felt
seniors would benefit from the site and he thought grants were available through the
Department of Senior Affairs. The activities offered at the site could also become part
of the City's senior programs. Ms. Budano responded that the facility would be inter-
generational. She already spoke with the City's Grants Coordinator, Debby Majors, for
funding sources and there are a great deal of grants available for inter-generational
programs. However, Ms. Budano cannot move forward until she has something tangible
to discuss. Ms. Rivers added that Ms. Budano needed to have a marketing plan and
master plan before she could seek funding.
Vote
The motion carried unanimously.
David Katz informed the Board he was a resident of the Windemere section of the
Meadows. Previously, Mr. Katz had met with the former Parks Superintendent, John
Wildner regarding the City's plans for the vacant piece of land between the Windemere
section of the Meadows and Nautica Sound. At that time, Mr. Wildner informed him
there were no immediate plans for this site, but eventually the property would be used to
build a park similar to the one in Boynton Lakes and would cost around $750,000.
Mr. Katz reported at their last homeowner's meeting, the Master Association for the
entire Meadows asked him to watch what the City would be doing with this property.
The Meadows would like to see this property developed as an ultra passive park with no
structures. They would like a meandering path that would not require sod and to leave
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the site in a natural state. He pointed out a lot of wildlife live on the site. They would like
to see the property heavily planted with native trees and benches made of recycled
material for sitting in shaded areas. They are opposed to having any parking, gazebos,
or any structures on the land. If the land were not sodded, there would be no need for
an irrigation system.
Chairperson Pierce-Roe felt it would be very hot walking through the park without any
kind of shelter. She pointed out it would take many years for trees to mature to provide
shade for benches that people would be sitting on.
Mr. Katz was not opposed to Nautica Sound introducing gazebos and parking on their
portion of the land, but the Meadows did not want it on their side.
Vice Chair Orlove inquired how people would access the land on the Windemere side of
the park since a canal divides the property. Mr. Katz stated they were not opposed to
having a bridge across the canal. He also pointed out that the Meadows has their own
recreational amenities, plus a City park.
C. Monthly Report
Included in the agenda packet.
D. Items for the City Manager's Attention
None
VI. Discussion
None
VII. Next Meeting: October 24,2005,6:30 p.m. at the Senior Center
VIII. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting properly adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara M. Madden
Recording Secretary
(October 6, 2005)
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