Minutes 09-26-06
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD
HELD IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
SEPTEMBER 26, 2006 AT 6:30 P.M.
PRESENT:
Lee Wische, Chair
Woodrow Hay, Vice Chair
Sergio Casaine
William Cwynar
Shirley Jaskiewicz
Roger Saberson
David Tokes, Assistant City Attorney
Mike Rumpf, Director, Planning and Zoning
ALSO PRESENT:
Sharon Grcevic, Alternate
Matthew Barnes, Alternate
I. Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Wische called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Vice Chair Hay led the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag. Chair Wische introduced the board alternates, who sat in the audience
and participated, but did not vote.
II. Introduction of the Board
Chair Wische introduced each member of the board to the audience.
III. Agenda Approval
Motion
Mr. Cwynar moved to approve the agenda as presented. Vice Chair Hay seconded the motion
that passed 6-0.
IV. Approval of Minutes
There were no changes to the August 22, 2006 minutes.
Motion
Mr. Cwynar moved to approve the August 22, 2006 minutes as presented. Vice Chair Hay
seconded the motion that passed 6-0.
V. Communications and Announcements
A. Plannina and Zonina Reoort
1. Final disposition of the August 22, 2006 Planning and Development Board
meeting Agenda items
Mike Rumpf, Planning & Zoning Director, reported that at the September 19, 2006 City
Commission meeting, the Smokey Bones and Red Lobster items were undergoing fa~ade
redesigns and would be considered at the October 3 City Commission meeting. The Boynton
Village Condo 4 had been approved.
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Vice Chair Hay asked for more detail about Smokey Bones. Mr. Rumpf responded each project
had been reviewed by others involved in the Master Plan and there were concerns about
possible deficiencies in the fa~ades. The developer/owner, Darden Properties, agreed and was
adding some fenestration, illumination, and similar fixes in response. When re-submitted, staff
would conduct another review to determine whether the changes were major and should be
brought back before the board or minor and could be handled administratively. In the latter
case, the projects would proceed on to the City Commission for the October 3 meeting.
VI. Old Business
None
VII. New Business
Attorney Tolces administered an oath to all who planned to testify.
A. New Site Plan
1.
Project:
Agent:
Owner:
Location:
Description:
Ocean 95 Exchange Plaza (NWSP 06-020)
Crockett Farnell
Boynton Industrial, LLC
514, 516, and 518 West Ocean Avenue
Request new site plan approval to construct
133,911 square feet of office/warehouse on a 6.77-
acre parcel in the M-l industrial zoning district.
Haime Mayo, H 8r. M Architecture, 3705 N. Federal Highway, Delray Beach, Florida,
appeared. Crockett Farnell, representing Boynton Industrial, LLC, the development entity for the
project, also appeared.
Chair Wische asked if the applicant was in agreement with or needed clarification for any of the
staff conditions of approval. Mr. Mayo responded the applicant accepted all staff conditions of
approval.
Eric Johnson, Planner, displayed a rendering of the subject site, a very long site with some
dilapidated structures in place. The applicant proposed three separate office/warehouse
buildings. There was one point of ingress and egress from West Ocean Drive over an existing
railroad crossing. Staff recommended approval of the project, contingent on meeting the 34
conditions of approval. He pointed out condition of approval #1 had been met, because the
developer had obtained a certificate of concurrency.
Chair Wische asked the applicant's representatives whether they wished to make a report, and
they did not.
Chair Wische opened the floor for the public to speak.
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Wendy Franklin, 120 N.W. 6th Street, Boynton Beach, confirmed with Mr. Johnson the
West Ocean Avenue railroad crossing would be the sole means of entry and exit to the
proposed project.
Ms. Franklin declared the neighborhood had experienced many traffic problems and there were
children in the area. They had just gone through the Krispy Kreme disaster that was not
supposed to cause the residents any problems and it caused them major problems with people
parking on their streets, walking to Krispy Kreme through the back, and throwing their trash all
over. Now, they would have this. It had been wonderful not having the steel business there
because she did not have trucks backing up in her driveway any more to get around the corner.
Her neighborhood just had a major meeting with the Police Department about keeping
strangers out of the neighborhood and trying to keep the area safe. The Police said to report
any suspicious vehicles. They could not tell who was suspicious because they would have so
much traffic on their streets if this project were approved. Ms. Franklin wondered if a railroad
crossing could be put in down by Home Depot on the road near the Expo Center. They wanted
the West Ocean Avenue railroad crossing to be a quiet zone and if they were going to have
more traffic, it would never become that.
Mr. Johnson pointed out the subject property was zoned M-l, Light Industrial. As such, the use
the developer was bringing forward was permitted. They were allowed to have this project by
right, as long as they met the Land Development Regulations and they either did or would by
the time a building permit was issued. As far as truck traffic was concerned, or traffic in
general, it was always better to have two points of ingress and egress, but he deferred to the
Senior Engineer to elaborate.
Laurinda Logan, Senior Engineer, Public Works/Engineering, assured Ms. Franklin that one of
the conditions of approval associated with this project had to do with the truck route, which
was different than the one used by the previous businesses at this location. The preferred route
was along S.W. 8th Street and West Ocean Drive. Ms. Logan declared the new route should
diminish the amount of traffic in Ms. Franklin's immediate neighborhood. The developer had
also agreed to make improvements to the roads to minimize the effect on the residents.
Ms. Franklin commented that even though the traffic had been re-routed, it was still going right
through a residential area. She realized the developer had a right to build on his property, but
was hoping another railroad crossing would be put in place.
No one else coming forward, Chair Wische closed the public hearing.
Ms. Jaskiewicz commented she had visited the site and shared some of Ms. Franklin's concerns.
She believed condition of approval #2 was very vague and wondered how they could force
traffic to follow a particular route when all three roads were open to S.E. 8th Street. Ms.
Jaskiewicz asked the developer what kinds of uses would be involved and how intensive the
truck traffic was expected to be. She noted there was a children's park in the area and she was
concerned about that. She had driven through the proposed routes and the one chosen was not
necessarily the shortest route, nor was it the route that would impact the fewest number of
residences. Actually, it was one of the longest routes. On the positive side, Ms. Jaskiewicz
appreciated the fact that a project was going in to replace the existing dilapidated buildings,
even though the proposed project was almost an over use of the property.
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Ms. Logan indicated they could only sign the project to direct trucks to use the preferred route,
but the businesses should be involved in insuring their trucks used the correct route. The route
was chosen because it had the widest right-of-way and the potential for making the most and
best improvements to the roadway to minimize the impacts to the neighbors.
Ms. Jaskiewicz believed Ms. Franklin's comment about moving the railroad crossing or building a
second crossing was a great idea, because she knew there was a piece of property behind
Home Depot and there had been talk of development of it. She wondered if a condition of
approval could be added that the City Commission investigate adding a railroad crossing. Ms.
Logan responded this could be added to the conditions of approval. Moving the railroad
crossing was one of the alternatives they had the developer look at, including the cost. From
Ms. Logan's past experience in dealing with the railroad, getting a second crossing would quite
likely be a very difficult hurdle to get over. Ms. Jaskiewicz suggested the area businesses might
contribute to it or be required to do so. Ms. Logan indicated this was a possibility and the
Commission could consider it as an alternate to the various routes.
Ms. Jaskiewicz asked if the City had to pay the full cost of maintenance on the railroad crossing
at the present time, and Ms. Logan responded in the affirmative. Ms. Logan noted that in
addition to the businesses, there were the people who used those businesses, so it was for a
public use.
Mr. Mayo spoke about intensity and the use of the land, saying they were proposing about 20%
less than was allowed by Code in terms of floor area. It was not an intense industrial use and
they expected to have smaller industrial users such as cabinetmakers. They were not expecting
tractor-trailer users, as they had no dock height overhead doors. Mr. Mayo suggested the
proposed building sizes, on-site design, and uses would informally discourage large tractor-
trailers from coming to the industrial site. A tractor-trailer would have a hard time turning
around and accessing overhead doors, for example. They had studied the truck route
extensively and their primary consideration had been safety. The reason they chose the route
they did was the safety factor and they would be taking measures to enhance safety around the
park.
Ms. Jaskiewicz responded their comments were generally true in relation to an industrial area;
however, very rarely did an industrial project impact a neighborhood like this.
Mr. Casaine asked the applicant to expand on the definition of Light Industrial. Mr. Mayo replied
it was not like a large distribution center. They would not have tractor-trailers. The maximum
tenant size would be about 4K square feet. One user would not come in and take a 60K square
foot building, and that was the largest building on the site. Mr. Casaine wanted to know what
types of businesses they intended to attract for the three warehouses. Mr. Mayo responded
they hoped to attract an industrial use or uses from the list of 100 approved uses for this zoning
district. Mr. Casaine understood his remarks to mean that the uses had not actually been
defined, but would meet Code or regulations, and Mr. Mayo agreed.
Mr. Casaine asked the applicant which residential uses they would be affecting with the
specified truck route, noting they had identified light medium residential and high density
residential. Mr. Mayo believed they would be affecting Single-family homes only. Mr. Casaine
asked if there were any plans to improve the traffic conditions or roadways in order to
accommodate whatever size of truck movement would occur in the area. Mr. Mayo responded
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affirmatively. He believed Ocean Avenue was a 70-foot right-of-way and it had recently been
improved.
Ms. Logan declared the applicant was being required to bring the road up to more of a
collector-type road. The final design would address the width of the roadway so that it could
handle whatever type of vehicles may go through it. She did not think any of them could say
with absolute certainty that there would not be any tractor-trailers, but they would ensure the
roadway was designed and constructed to handle tractor-trailers, the fire rescue vehicles, and
the solid waste trucks that would continue to utilize that route.
Mr. Casaine was concerned with the adequate preparation of the area for the type of traffic that
it could potentially hold and felt that had to be part of a plan. He wanted to see industrial and
even more than light industrial; however, since the project was in a residential area and people
were concerned about traffic and railroad crossings, safety had to be a number one priority.
The residents were concerned about these things, and rightly so. On the other hand, the
selection of the area and the acceptance by staff was commendable because the site was
apropos for this type of project.
Crockett Farnell, agent for the owner, assured Mr. Casaine the roadways were designed
for full capacity, including tractor-trailer traffic. Mr. Farnell believed Mr. Casaine was concerned
about the roadway and whether it could handle the type of traffic to which it would be
subjected. Mr. Casaine responded that was partially correct. When he said roadway, he did not
mean the major ingress and egress roads, but the site itself: the entrance, the roads around the
site, anything that would hold traffic or that would accommodate traffic to go in and out of the
structures. The reason he said that was because the question had been asked about the type of
traffic expected at the site. A comment had been made about 55-foot trailers and he declared
they could put a 55-foot trailer on the site and turn around in that area very easily if they knew
how to drive a 55-foot trailer.
Mr. Farnell agreed, saying the paved sections of the site would all be designed to that
maximum potential standard, to alleviate that concern. Their site would be designed to
accommodate any loads such as tractor-trailers, fire trucks, utility service trucks, and so forth,
including anyone who might show up by mistake or otherwise. His understanding from staff
was that the existing roadways already had the capacity to accommodate tractor-trailers. The
improvements they would be making pertained to the intersections. There were some oddball
intersections now that could use improvement regardless of whether their project was approved
or not. There was an odd five-way intersection that was very problematic for traffic, for
example. It would be part of their plan to improve those areas to make sure that worst-case, a
tractor-trailer could get in there.
Mr. Farnell addressed the actual uses for their facility. From a pure marketing standpoint, he did
not anticipate selling to a user with a need for daily or even weekly tractor-trailer traffic. The
site did not lend itself to easy loading and unloading of tractor-trailers and did not lend itself to
easy driving and turning around, although it would accommodate it. He understood a former
business at the site, Four Steel, had regular tractor-trailer traffic in and out all the time with
heavy loads of steel, dumpsters, and so forth, and that would no longer be the case if this
project were approved.
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Mr. Casaine indicated he was hearing the design was more appropriate for lighter truck capacity
than larger trucks because of the makeup and the limitations of the property. Mr. Farnell
responded that was absolutely correct. As could be seen on the site plan, they had front-loading
bay doors that were at grade height instead of dock height and that, combined with their
available driving area, would not attract a shipping and receiving type of facility. It would not be
a Fed-Ex transition area or a WalMart distribution center, for example. None of those functions
could feasibly, practically, or efficiently function on such a site layout. The loading areas in the
proposed facilities were designed for large parcel trucks such as UPS trucks, and maybe four-
wheel box trucks. There would be no real accommodation for any kind of semi trucks, other
than the capacity of the paved areas themselves.
Mr. Blehar liked the architecture and usage, since it meant more jobs in the City, but had
serious problems with the railroad crossing. First of all, it was at grade. If there were a fire at
the proposed facility and the crossing were blocked, the Fire Department might not be able to
get to the site. Also, about once a year, Amtrak caught on fire, stopped, and blocked the tracks.
If the fire were on the west side of the railroad tracks they could fight it, but on the east side
they could not. A second crossing mayor may not help, depending on the length of the train
blocking the crossing. With regard to truck traffic, Mr. Blehar could accept it if it were on N.W.
1st Avenue, which already had commercial on one side and parking from the doughnut facility.
It did affect one side of residential, but they were looking at it already. It would still affect the
individual who spoke during Public Audience, but at least the number of houses affected, even
if it were just box trucks or large vans, would be minimized. He could see truck traffic routed
along N.W. 1st Avenue, but any other route would bother him due to having houses on both
sides of the street. He realized the project met zoning but believed it was inherently unsafe due
to the fire protection issue.
Mr. Cwynar asked Mr. Farnell if the proposed buildings had a sprinkler system, and Mr. Farnell
responded all three buildings were fully sprinklered. Mr. Cwynar thought sprinklers were 96%
effective at putting fires out before the Fire Department got there so in his mind, that problem
was solved. Mr. Farnell responded the largest building size would be 59,327 sq. ft. The central
building would be 43,122 sq. ft. and the smallest building to the south would be 31,462 sq. ft.
Mr. Johnson made further comments on the proposed uses, the site, and the M-1 zoning district
in general. The City had a number of properties that were zoned M-1. An M-1 zoning study was
underway and it might eventually call for a limitation on the kinds of uses for this type of site,
but currently, the project fit the zoning district requirements. He believed that having truck
travel go through a residential area was unfortunate, and that was why the developer and the
City took pains to choose the best truck route. During project review, staff stressed the concern
of truck traffic going through a residential neighborhood and the developer's response was that
they would not sell the units to users that would require the large tractor-trailers. However,
there was nothing in writing in the Code that would restrict tractor-trailers.
Vice Chair Hay knew the project was within legal bounds, but was also concerned about the one
means of ingress and egress and favored an additional railroad crossing.
Attorney Tokes advised the City currently had zoning in place. There were uses that were
currently permitted in that area and businesses had been operating for years there with the one
railroad crossing. He did not believe the issue was necessarily germane to this site plan.
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Vice Chair Hay asked Attorney Tolces if they could add the stipulation about the railroad
crossing to the conditions of approval. Attorney Tolces did not know because the railroad was
operated by a private company and he did not know what jurisdiction the City would have over
mandating that somebody enter into an agreement with the CSX Railroad to get a crossing
when that property had been operated for many years with only one crossing. They could ask
for it, but he did not know if it was something the City could require, legally.
Mr. Cwynar commented the property did not go down as far as Home Depot and was still
behind the residential area. Mr. Farnell noted they had tried to come up with a solution because
they would much prefer having two means of ingress and egress to the project. They had the
additional problem that the CSX Railroad would only allow intersections at certain intervals. As
they understood it, they could only be within a certain distance and they were not within that
distance to get over to their property on the other end. Also, it would cut across another piece
of private property over which they had no control. Their hands were tied.
Attorney Tolces pointed out they had to look at the comments City staff had provided as to the
specific impacts associated with the development with respect to fire or traffic and if it was
documented there were associated impacts, they would have the justification they needed to
require the extra crossing.
Mr. Johnson noted when the property to the south was redeveloped, there could be some kind
of cross-access agreement for the two properties. Mr. Farnell would be happy to have the
additional access if they could get it. They would have to look at it from a design standpoint,
but the way they ran the parking lot out on that end of the property, it would not be at all
problematic for them to allow for a connection from their neighbor to the south. If they could
continue on with the roadway or allow them to adjoin from the south eventually, they would be
amenable to leaving that open as a prospect, since that would probably help all the properties.
Matt Barnes, Alternate Board Member, commented about the west side of the fa~ade, saying
staff had made recommendations to vary the height of the west fa~ade, which was a great
idea. He thought it had to be taken one step further. The materials on the east fa~ade looked
great from I-95 but would not look so great to the residents. If some of the materials used on
the east side were incorporated on the west, it would help improve the appearance of the
property. Ms. Jaskiewicz concurred.
Mr. Casaine addressed the additional railroad crossing or the moving of the crossing. He did
not necessarily look at it from a legal point of view, but believed when a developer was
interested in occupying land, regardless of the use, and residents were already located there,
that there was a marriage, a partnership between the developer and the City as far as that
interest was concerned. It was not a legal issue. It was a marketing or political issue. All of a
sudden these residents were going to have more truck traffic than what they were accustomed
to previously and they were concerned about it. If the concern was genuine, in the sense that
further study showed a crossing should be considered, then it was something the developer and
the City should discuss. He did not know where it would go, but it was something they should
consider. Maybe they would share the cost. He did not know. If they did not legally have a
right to force the developer into building another crossing, perhaps the City should do it since
the City allowed the project to be constructed. He believed there were considerations that went
beyond the project they were considering. If the residents were affected by the results of this
project, they had a responsibility to address it. He was not saying they would force anybody to
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do anything. He was saying they should try to reach a happy medium where they could say
they had considered the safety and the quality of life of the people living in the area that would
be affected. It would probably be affected in a positive way as well.
Ms. Jaskiewicz asked Attorney Tokes if they could add a recommendation to the conditions of
approval to pursue the additional crossing? Attorney Tokes stated they could add the
recommendation. His concern was that in light of the discussion about the crossing, it was not
connected at all to this property. It may be a recommendation that the City look into creating it
as opposed to imposing that requirement on the developer. Ms. Jaskiewicz believed it would
primarily affect the industrial site to the south, but still, in combination with this, the City could
start pursuing the possibility of constructing the additional railroad crossing.
Motion
Mr. Cwynar moved to approve the request for new site plan approval to construct 133,911
square feet of office/warehouse on a 6.77-acre parcel in the M-1 industrial zoning district,
contingent upon all staff conditions and comments. Vice Chair Hay seconded the motion.
Ms. Jaskiewicz asked Mr. Cwynar to consider adding an amendment to the motion, a
recommendation to pursue closure of the existing crossing and moving it to behind the Home
Depot area to accommodate that industrial site at the same time.
Mr. Cwynar responded he would consider it but in this instance, the property under
development did not reach down as far as the Home Depot and, therefore, that connection
could not be made. He would not allow the amendment.
Attorney Tolces advised Ms. Jaskiewicz could ask for a motion to amend the motion to provide
for that recommendation.
Mr. Saberson's understanding was that this would not be a condition of approval on the
developer, but a recommendation to the City Commission.
Motion
Mr. Saberson made a substitute motion to approve the project subject to all staff comments
and staff recommendations, subject to the amendment that was just suggested by Ms.
Jaskiewicz. Ms. Jaskiewicz seconded the motion.
Attorney Tolces said there was the original motion that had been made and seconded. Now
they had a motion to amend that motion, made by Mr. Saberson, seconded by Ms. Jaskiewicz,
to provide for the attachment of a recommendation that the City look into providing that
additional crossing to the south at some point in time, not necessarily associated with this
specific project. The motion to amend, which was currently on the floor, should be voted on
prior to consideration of the main motion.
Mr. Cwynar did not see how that motion could stand, since this property did not even come
close to the Home Depot. Vice Chair Hay responded it was only a recommendation to look into
it, not make it a condition of approval. It was a recommendation to say, "If at all possible, do
it." Mr. Saberson indicated this was correct and Ms. Jaskiewicz concurred also.
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Mr. Farnell stated if the amendment were specifically to close the crossing, the property to the
north of them would be landlocked. Attorney Tolces advised the motion had not been correct
in that regard. It was to look into creating a second crossing to the south by the Home Depot
facility .
The amended motion passed 5-1, Mr. Cwynar dissenting.
Attorney Tolces declared they now had the original motion as amended. The motion currently
on the floor was the motion to approve staff's recommendation to approve the site plan with all
staff comments plus a recommendation to the City Commission that they look into providing for
a second railroad crossing near the Home Depot site at some point in the future, but that it was
not specifically a condition of approval for this project.
The motion passed 5-1, Mr. Blehar dissenting.
Ms. Jaskiewicz hoped the developer would also consider the comments made previously by Mr.
Barnes and Mr. Blehar.
Mr. Blehar announced he would not be able to attend the next meeting due to a trip that had
been arranged for a long time.
B. Code Review
1.
Project:
Agent:
Description:
Mixed Use Zoning Districts 9DRV 06-002)
City-initiated
Request for approval of proposed amendments to
Chapter 2, Zoning, Section 6.F Mixed Use Zoning
Districts for conversion of Mixed Use-Low (MU-L) to
Mixed Use-Low 1 (MU-Ll), amendment of Mixed
Use-High (MU-H), and establishment of the Mixed
Use-Low 2 (MU-L2) and Mixed Use-Low 3 (MU-L3)
zoning districts.
Motion
Vice Chair Hay moved to table Item VII-B to the October 24 meeting. Mr. Cwynar seconded the
motion that passed 6-0.
VIII. Other
None
IX. Comments by Members
None
X. Adjournment
Since there was no further business before the board, the meeting was duly adjourned at 7:30
p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
~MatA cmvf
Susan Collins
Recording Secretary
(092706)
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