Minutes 04-11-07
MINUTES OF THE VETERANS ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11, 2007, AT 10:00 A.M.
CONFERENCE ROOM B, CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
Present:
Thomas Kaiser, Chairman
Robert Zimmerman, Vice Chairman
David Buckner
Karl Washington
Stanley Gavlick, Alternate
Stuart Preston, Alternate
Cramer Hegeman, Alternate
Chuck Magazine, City Liaison
I. Call to Order
Chair Kaiser called the meeting to order at 10: 14 a.m.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The board recited the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
III. Invocation
Chair Kaiser gave the Invocation.
IV. Roll Call of Members
Roll call was taken.
V. Agenda Approval
Motion
Mr. Boruck moved to approve the agenda. Mr. Gavlick seconded the motion that
unanimously passed.
VI. Approval of Minutes
Motion
Mr. Gavlick moved approval of the minutes. Mr. Washington seconded the motion that
unanimously passed.
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VII. Comments by Chair
Chair Kaiser announced Jody Rivers, Superintendent, Parks Division, and Debby Coles-
Dobay, Arts Coordinator, were present to discuss the Veterans Memorial. More
specifically, they would review the proposal and proposed locations and receive
feedback.
VIII. Comments from Visitors
None.
IX. Old Business
a. Veterans Eternal Flame & other Memorial - Location (Debby Coles-Dobay)
Ms. Coles-Dobay, Public Art Administrator, explained they published a Request for
Qualifications (RFQ) some time ago. The specifications included names of Veterans
from Boynton Beach, and each seal for the American Legion, the MIA's, and the City of
Boynton Beach. She explained the artist would work with the various planners on the
project and the budget established was $35K.
Chair Kaiser requested confirmation the seals for all the veteran's organizations and
armed forces would be on the memorial.
Ms. COles-Dobay explained that question would be addressed later in the meeting. She
reviewed on March 6th, the Arts Commission produced the RFQ and on April 6th, the
selection panel selected three artists. In December the Request for Proposal (RFP) was
created and in February, the Eternal Flame monument was selected.
Ms. COles-Dobay showed the members a maquette of the artist's concept of the project.
The monument would be concrete, bronze and stainless steel, and would stand about
eight-feet high topped with an illuminated fountain representative of the Eternal Flame.
Ms. COles-Dobay described the fountain as a concrete plinth about eight feet high
supporting a circular copper dish with a diameter of about three and a half feet and
depth of about 15 inches that would contain a mist fountain, with a two foot plume.
The plume would be illuminated with red, yellow and blue lights. Four bands of
stainless steel divide the plinth into five smaller segments representing fewer combat
deaths from each of the five major wars. These wars were WW 1, WW II, Korean,
Vietnam and the Persian Gulf War. The water that spilled down the front onto a bronze
sculpture would symbolize flowing water, and the confluence of the rivers of life. The
mist would the Eternal Flame. Two sides of the triangle would contain the three seals
originally specified, which were the MIA, the City of Boynton Beach and the American
Legion. The sculpture would need electric and water at the site, which was already
included in the budget. There would be a concentric circle on the ground that would
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include the names of the Veterans and six other plaques would be incorporated into the
project. In addition, the plaques already at Intracoastal Park would be worked into the
project.
Jody Rivers, Park Superintendent, explained the artist would work with the Landscape
Stewardship Company, the planner the City hired on the project. The proposed
locations discussed were Veterans Park and Bicentennial Park.
Chuck Magazine, Risk Management Manager, noted near Veterans Park, there was
open space on the other side of Ocean Avenue. Residential, retail and office spaces
were planned for that area. Most likely, office space would be constructed overlooking
the park. Mr. Magazine pointed out that, potentially, many people would spend their
lunch and break times there. There would not be a lot of pedestrian traffic anticipated
at Bicentennial Park in the near future and presently, there were no trees or parking.
The current Veterans Park was already dedicated to veterans and was an intimate
space away from loud traffic. There was adjacent parking and an Art Walk planned for
Ocean Boulevard nearby.
Mr. Oyer explained he owns the property next to Veterans Park and he personally
thought Bicentennial Park was the better location for the City and the Veterans. He
commented the trees at Veterans Park were a hazard. He reported the trees dirtied the
site; they were a hazard, a hurricane hazard, and the area had homeless persons
camped around there from time to time.
Mr. Oyer announced one of the individuals responsible for creation of Bicentennial Park
was John Quincy Adams, the IV, and emphasized the park was actually dedicated by an
individual who was a direct descendent of the President of the United States and a
signer of the Declaration of Independence. He thought the site would be appropriate
for Veterans given its history. Ms. Rivers announced she would make that information
known to the landscape architects and thanked Mr. Oyer for the information.
Further discussion ensued about Bicentennial Park. Mr. Oyer thought the artist
conception of the memorial was of four wars, but in the history of Boynton, there are
individuals buried locally that were Veterans of the Civil War, the Spanish American
War, and the Philippine Insurrection and other wars. He noted rather than naming the
wars, the committee might consider dedicating the memorial to Veterans of all the
Wars.
Chair Kaiser explained the names of veterans killed from the City of Boynton would be
inscribed into the monument and were deserving of a bit more honor. He thought
there was more room for a memorial fountain, a monument at Bicentennial Park and
meditation benches. Mr. Oyer also commented the individuals killed had an identity in
the community.
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Ms. Rivers noted the City decided to put in the memorial and a wall, as the memorial
pieces. No other pieces would be included and only a part of the park would be used
for the memorial. Ms. Rivers requested the committee make a decision and they would
advise the City. There was $100K from the City, $200K from the CRA and $35K for the
memorial itself. She thought they could renovate and incorporate the pieces at the
park. Additional elements that were discussed were the relocation of a memorial from
Intracoastal Park, which would cost about $6K, a lighted flagpole would cost about
$10K, six additional plaques about $3K. A reflection bench and landscaping was already
incorporated into the park renovation costs.
Ms. Rivers explained the landscape architect contract would be completed in April; the
architect and artist would meet in May; conceptual drawings would be brought back in
May/June, and the conceptual review by the Recreation and Parks Advisory Committee,
Veterans and City Staff would take place in June/July. The permitting would occur in
September, and the project would be bid out in October. Work would commence in
November/December. She noted the schedule she gave was contingent upon no
glitches.
Chair Kaiser commented the veteran organizations wanted to donate a memorial free
and clear and they wanted to go before the City Commission to offer their memorials.
That included a flagpole, and the meditation benches.
Mr. Magazine did not know if there would be space or if the City would be willing to put
up a second memorial. He thought two memorials could be construed as redundant.
He hoped the veterans would augment the memorial with appropriate elements. Chair
Kaiser asked Mr. Magazine to put the veterans on the City Commission agenda. Mr.
Kaiser asked for a vote on which park would be appropriate for the memorial.
Ms. Rivers noted Veterans Park was about .5 acres and Bicentennial Park was about .75
acres. The animal facility would remain at its present location and it was emphasized
although Bicentennial Park was the larger of the two parks, only a portion could be
used. Chair Kaiser asked the members to inspect the two parks and be prepared to
make a recommendation. He did not want to delay making a recommendation and
requested the members look at the parks and convene a special five-minute meeting
next week. The members agreed to meet the following week.
Ms. Coles-Dobay commented the artist who designed the piece felt the artwork could
work in either park. The memorial would have a significant presence at Veterans Park
and a slightly diminished presence at Bicentennial Park in comparison to the size of the
park.
c. Memorial Day, Flag Placement at Municipal Cemetery (Heard out of
Order)
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Ms. Rivers announced in response to a request made last year by the Veterans, a Boy
Scout Troop or ROTC would assist with putting the flags at the cemetery on Memorial
Day weekend. Chair Kaiser felt that responsibility was being usurped by the other
organizations and advised the veterans always enjoyed the activity. He clarified the
assistance they asked for was to purchase a sleeve that went in the ground along side
of the veterans stones they could place the flags into. Ms. Rivers explained the graves
were marked and they did not feel it was necessary to purchase the sleeves but she
indicated she would bring it before the Cemetery Board.
Chair Kaiser commented a flyer was distributed announcing that on May 27th at 2 p.m.
at the cemetery on Seacrest and Woolbright, the Memorial Day ceremony would begin.
The Veterans would place the flags at the cemetery on May 25th at 9:00 a.m.
b. Boynton/Lantana VFW Post 5335, 500 NE 21st Avenue
There would be a meeting of the Veterans Council the first Tuesday of the month in
May at 7:00 p.m., at the above location. There would be an open house at the
American Legion on Veterans Day. The Mayor would be the speaker. Mr. Magazine
offered to contact Congressman Klein who was doing a lot of work with the Veterans
Council in Broward.
The Bob Ensler Memorial, which was an eagle monument, would be unveiled at the
American Legion on May 30th around noon. The monument would be located at the
roundabout owned by the American Legion on Ocean Avenue. The Color Guard would
be there. Mr. Magazine requested information on the program so he could have a
program printed.
Chair Kaiser announced Mr. Magazine would receive a plaque on Memorial Day to say
thanks for his assistance.
d. Past Events
1. Four Chaplains Sunday, February 4, 2007
e. Future Events
1. Memorial Day Event, Sunday, May 27. 2007 (Tentative)
Chair Kaiser announced Veterans Day would fall on the 11th this year.
x. New Business
Chair Kaiser urged all the members present to attend the special meeting on April 18,
2007 at 10:00 a.m.
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A short report about the road by the American Legion Hall was given. Trash along
21st Avenue was discussed and was an ongoing issue. There were two break-ins at the
Hall and a generator had been stolen.
Mr. Magazine spoke about Boynton Beach TV (BBTV), and would investigate putting
information about the veteran's activities on it. If the veteran's activities were taped,
they could possibly be broadcast.
On another matter, Mr. Magazine announced an individual requested he notify all the
veterans about a medical records program. The individual indicated he was contacting
various entities on behalf of Senator Clinton. Mr. Magazine recommended the individual
contact the Veterans Administration Hospital and the different organizations.
Accordingly, the veterans may be contacted.
Mr. Oyer suggested the veterans groups petition Congress to stop using social security
numbers as the military serial number. Under the Geneva Convention, the only
information required of a soldier was the soldier's name, rank and serial number.
Today, access to that information could lead to identity theft. Mr. Magazine explained
federal law prohibits that practice, however, the military are exempt from it.
There was a discussion on a reduction in property tax if an individual was a disabled
combat veteran. The individual needed to meet five different criteria, one of them being
they had to have been drafted from Boynton Beach. There was no further discussion
of the issue.
XI. Benediction, Moment of Silent Prayer
The benediction was given by Chair Kaiser.
XII. Adjournment
There was no further business to discuss.
Motion
Mr. Gavlick moved to adjourn. Mr. Boruck seconded the motion that unanimously
passed. Meeting adjourned at 11:13 a.m.
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Catherine Cherry-Guberman
Recording Secretary
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