Minutes 06-11-07
MINUTES OF THE BOYNTON BEACH ARTS COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING ON TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 2007 AT 6:00 P.M.
HELD IN THE LIBRARY PROGRAM ROOM, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
Present:
Barbara Ready, Chair
Angela Budano
Barbara Lentz
Christine Moeller
Debby Brookes, Alternate
Debbie Coles-Dobay, Public Art
Administrator
Absent:
Cheryl Arflin
Nubia Richman
Halena Wolf
Alan Burgess, Alternate
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Ready called the meeting to order at 6: 16 pm.
II. ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS
Self-introductions were made and an attendance sheet was circulated for inclusion with
the minutes.
III. AGENDA APPROVAL
Chair Ready requested individuals wanting to speak identify themselves for the record.
Chair Ready requested approval of the agenda.
Consensus
There was consensus to approve the agenda.
Ms. Horenburger explained she had to leave the meeting but wanted to comment, the
next evening was the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) regular meeting and
the previously selected Five Towns College was no longer desirous of utilizing the Old
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High School for its facilities. No reason was given, they just indicated they were not
coming. She thought everyone needed to attend the meeting to show support for
keeping the Old High School.
Ms. Horenburger explained two years ago, the City was considering demolishing the
school. The CRA went to the City Commission and entered into an Interlocal Agreement
to manage the Old High School, which could be undone. She announced, conceivably,
the CRA could act at the meeting to return the Old High School back to the City
Commission.
A. Meeting Overview
Chair Ready explained the purpose of the meeting was to determine the level of
support and interest in bringing an artist live/work space to Boynton Beach, and how to
proceed.
Debby Coles-Dobay, Public Art Administrator, clarified the Arts Commission is
advisory in nature, and information from here would be conveyed to the City
Commission.
B. Background information
Ms. Brookes explained there was not reasonable rent space for artists to rent in the
County. As far as the Old High School being considered as an option, she did not know
the condition of the building. The Arts Commission's goal was to have a viable
workspace for artists. There was agreement the first choice for artist workspace would
be the Old High School. They would need to consult with people who know the
condition of the building and whether it could be saved. The use of the Old High
School was not a new issue. She explained using it for the arts had been previously
discussed and there were groups such as Artspace, the Torpedo Factory and others that
could utilize the space.
C. Discussion items:
1. Market for Artist live/work space project in Boynton
2. Identify appropriate location(s) for this project
Voncile Smith, President of the Boynton Beach Historical Society, advised in 2001,
they invited Rick Gonzales, a restoration architect in West Palm Beach, to look at the
building. The conclusion was it was in great shape. The floor and electrical needed
work and contingent upon what rehabilitation was done, the price to rehabilitate the
structure would vary. When the CRA took over, they asked Bender Architects,
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restoration experts about the building. Ms. Smith advised the building was designed by
a well-known school architect, in the old Mediterranean revival style with certain art
deco features. It was representative of the art deco style of the 20's and worthy of
saving. She also commented it was cheaper to rehabilitate a building than replacing
one, especially when their were historic properties attached to the structure.
Paula Melley, commented her husband was a developer. They brought in an
estimator, who is now a consultant and architect. She reported the building had lots of
potential; structurally it was sound. She was not in favor of tearing the building down
to make it a parking lot. This project was a treasure and could well accommodate lofts,
or be a mixed-use structure having a cafe on the lower level. She acknowledged this
issue had surfaced before. She thought the City was lacking in culture and was trying to
identify itself.
Ms. Brookes acknowledged there was agreement with Ms. Melley's comments but they
needed to determine what funding, grants or bonds were available. She explained they
would need to obtain that information as part of a plan.
Mr. Oyer, Jr., provided the history of the school. He explained, within the politics of the
City, in the past there were some department heads that did not want the school
developed because it would reduce their department budgets. He commented there
needed to be a long-term commitment for its development.
Chair Ready indicated a recommendation needed to be made from this meeting. Their
recommendation to the CRA would be if there was funding and there were artists'
willing to come and participate, they should let them know that.
Mr. Oyer suggested the board request the City turn over the building to a non-profit
group to develop it and let them get the grants and contributions. Historically the
school served Ocean Ridge, Briny Breeze, Gulf Stream and the area extending to Route
441. There was an emotional tie to the community and residents would contribute to a
cause, but they would not to a City government. Additionally, he commented under the
label of historical, there could be supply firms that would discount supply bills.
Carisse LeJeune, Assistant to the City Manager, explained the Arts Commission is
advisory to the City Commission on art issues. The Arts Commission would not make
their recommendations to the CRA. After reviewing the entire Boynton Beach area and
determining they want the location to be the Old High School, they would need to
request the CRA consider working with them to come up with a developer that would
assist in creating the artists' space. She explained the Arts Commission does not have
the concrete facts before them and she explained the CRA could provide those for them
as well as on developers they have spoken with who have turned down the project.
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Ms. Lejeune explained the property the Old High School was situated on was prime real
estate and artists generally do not have much in the way of funds. She recommended
also looking at alternative locations, due to the fact the Arts Commission would be
requesting the CRA work with them and the CRA contract with the City was coming
due. If the Old High School returns to control of the City Commission, they may want
to demolish the building. Then the Arts Commission would have no alternative location.
She explained after the upcoming CRA meeting, if the building was returned to City
control, the Arts Commission could approach the City with a recommendation to
reconsider the Old High School as a viable location for the artist live/work space. She
emphasized the Arts Commission, if they opted to approach the City Commission,
should have all their facts ready such as funding sources, as well as being able to show
what revenues would be coming in and who would rent the space.
Brian Edwards, 629 NE 9th Avenue, acknowledged the Arts Commission would not be
able to find a developer or funding overnight. He commented partnerships with another
entity would be helpful, especially as it related to raising money. He stressed, that until
someone can claim ownership of the initiative, they would not be able to raise money
for it. Whatever alliance was formed, the success of the issue would rest with the
credibility of the team. He thought if a viable team were assembled, the CRA and City
Commission would listen.
Ms. Coles-Dobay explained there were individuals from the Palm Beach County Cultural
Council and the Palm Beach County Art in Public Places that could speak about the need
for space. The President of the Artists for Palm Beach County could not attend the
meeting but Ms. Coles-Dobay conveyed they had expressed a need for some type of
space or location in Palm Beach County. She thought beginning a dialogue with those
entities would be beneficial.
Ms. Horenburger referenced the Torpedo Factory and suggested modeling facts and
details about those types of programs, for this project. This would include funding and
who would pay for what. The Torpedo Factory was a co-op with gallery space, rental
space and a store. She noted there were different grants for historic projects and
different grants for art projects. The Torpedo Factory housed over 100 artists or guilds
and they have attendance of over one million visitors a year. Artspace Projects, Inc.
takes buildings such as the Old High School and converts them to spaces for artists.
They were working on another project but could probably consult on the issue. Their
concept was live/work and they do it on a combination of funds. They have a minimum
square footage requirement that the building may not meet, but there was property
adjoining the structure, and perhaps a housing dormitory could be placed there. Ms.
Horenburger noted the tourists could generate revenues through the tourist tax.
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Ms. Coles-Dobay read an excerpt of an article from the Boston Redevelopment
Authority depicting how the art/artists assisted in making Boston a more livable city and
a city of people and neighborhoods. She read "they function as small businesses by
providing job services for Boston residents. Artists have helped transform marginal
neighborhoods into dynamic communities. Frequently festivals, galleries and small
performances occur, dramatically enhancing the community for residents and visitors."
Chair Ready noted artist cooperatives do not usually operate as a profitable center,
rather they are generally offered to artists at a reasonable rate.
3. Recommend a plan of action.
Ms. Budano inquired how a facility was secured or a feasibility study started on another
location.
Mr. Oyer, III, explained every community goes through a process before the right
answer is obtained. He referenced the 1916 County Courthouse, which took 10 years
and a 6-1 vote by the County Commission to tear it down before there was enough
motivation to do something about it. The Orange County Courthouse went through a
is-year process. It was part of the evolution of arriving at a good partnership and a
consensus. He thought it should be a partnership effort.
Ms. Brookes thought with the necessity and timing of circumstances her preference
would be to convert the school to an art space. If that was not feasible, then continue
to look at other areas for art space. She thought for art to be taken seriously, they
need to make a statement and the school would accomplish that task.
The commission felt prioritizing and organizing the approach, focusing on the Old High
School and determining their options was important. Ms. Budano acknowledged with
what was happening with the CRA and the City Commission, she was unsure how to
overcome those issues without funding.
Ms. Horenburger noted restoration funds and dedicated operation funds would be
needed.
Mr. Oyer, III, suggested approaching the feasibility of restoration of the building first
and emphasized the effort had to be a community effort. He referenced the prior
reports from Rick Gonzales, and the Hedrick Report. The consensus across the board
was the structure could be rehabbed and to hire another contractor to review it again
was a waste of money. He referenced Historic Tax Credits and further commented if
housing were incorporated, the project would qualify for federal housing incentives and
local incentives as well. He explained both the County and City had housing funds.
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Philanthropic dollars were available, but he noted recruiting such funds usually come in
by way of small amounts as opposed to one entity writing a check for millions of
dollars. There were State Historic Grants to apply for, but they should not be counted
on. Mr. Oyer, III, reported there are about 150 applications received each year for
funding and 30 are funded. Additionally, the funds do not roll over to the next year, so
the need to be reapplied for. If a historic grant is received it should be counted as
gravy .
Tax Increment Funds (TIF) was discussed, and that whatever economic benefit was
created on the main street, which was Ocean Avenue, that benefit could be returned
via TIF funds. Any tenant rents generated could be borrowed against, but the biggest
issue was the governing body of the community embracing the project and dedicating
the TIF dollars or some of the revenue bonds. He explained unless the Arts Commission
could educate the City Commission on the value of the project, it would be very difficult
for the effort to be successful.
Mr. Oyer, III, pointed out the National Trust for Historic Preservation, the Florida Trust
for Historic Preservation and the Florida Division of Historic Resources conducted an
analysis called the Economic Benefit to Historic Restoration in Florida, which was very
clear, and provided facts gleaned from preservation projects. The analysis illustrated
the amount of tax increments that one of these projects would give back to the City.
He referenced Atlantic Avenue in Delray Beach and pointed out the catalyst for the
redevelopment downtown there was the investment the City made in the Old School
Square. He highlighted Atlantic Avenue may be the best example in the State of Florida
of how the City leveraged one historic public building and how they turned it into a tax
bonanza for the downtown. This was accomplished with the merchants, the community,
chamber, historical society, everyone. He recommended doing this same thing under
whatever label they chose, historic preservation, opportunity for artisans or good
economic development. The effort needed to be articulated to the City Commission
with the hard data. He indicated by doing so, the data would be very convincing of the
multiple benefits that could be gleaned. An action plan is needed, and the market
would take care of the rest. Ms. Horenburger explained initially, there was no broad
support for the effort to revitalize Atlantic Avenue. There were three buildings located
there and a cottage. The project, however, grew incrementally, and as it grew, the
opposers became supporters. They utilized the skills of a doctor's wife to garner
support.
Ms. Brookes inquired if now would be the time to form a separate committee. Mr.
Oyer, III, believed that would be a good idea, but it should be the Arts Commission that
formed the committee. There should be a group to support issues that receives
endorsements from the Arts Commission, the Historical Society, the Chamber of
Commerce and others. The effort should be a grass root effort and the supporting
committees reflective of that effort. He suggested putting a dynamic face on the
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project. He elaborated the City Commission would want to see new faces of individuals
having an interest in the project and young faces as well.
There was a discussion on locations. Ms. Coles-Dobay thought the Arts Commission
should make a recommendation there was interest in a viable artist live/work space.
Mr. Oyer, III thought having representatives of different artist groups come and support
the Arts Commission recommendation would be helpful. They could theorize there
were artists needing space, however, determining and identifying a need should be part
of the market research. He referenced there were organizations such as the Cultural
Council, which was an umbrella organization for smaller organizations, and there are
traveling artists that need a place to stay. Examples of these were the European Opera
Singers. He indicated the Armory Art Center, as well as Drama Works, have artists
coming into town needing places to stay, but all that would be determined before hand.
It could be a good opportunity for Boynton Beach. Many of the artist organizations
were located in West Palm Beach or Boca Raton, which were the two most expensive
communities. Having a place between those hubs as the housing, trendier area, could
grow its own identity. This could gentrify the community and the tax increments would
more than pay for whatever the City invests. He explained those were his personal and
unqualified opinions.
An unidentified woman indicated the key was having the City and its partners embrace
the concept and knowing what numbers were involved. Those numbers should include
the cost to fix the building and indicate what the nut of the project would be. The
operating model would include a subsidy. Nevertheless, it was pointed out it could be
clearly proven that the dollars going into the tax base are greater than the subsidy.
Ms. Budano explained they provided that in the comprehensive report. One component
that remained outstanding was the local assessment of need and taking it from
anecdotal artist needs, with all aspects, and quantifying it into a business plan.
There was a discussion on utilizing the retirement communities for support. Ms.
Horenburger reported those communities get excited about projects like this. A woman
read an excerpt of "The Creative City" and there was agreement the effort could be the
focus of a Downtown Master Plan. It was noted the CRA was having another planning
session. It was also suggested contacting Five Towns College to verify the reason they
withdrew from using the Old High School.
Linda Stabile, inquired about citizen volunteer committees that cut through red tape.
She thought Boynton Beach should have a committee in place. She indicated she had
put all kinds of information together but was advised because she was not a resident
she could not serve. Ms. Stabile was informed that criteria no longer applied.
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Ms. Melley advised there was discussion on the Old High School that would possibly be
demolished. She indicated the CRA was meeting the next night and she thought the
CRA should be requested to hang on to the building to allow them to come up with a
formalized plan. She recommended the group appear at the CRA meeting.
Mr. Edwards thought it might be helpful if the building was returned to the City
Commission and thought the issue would boil down to being a public/private venture of
some sort. It could be a collaborative issue with the cultural center, or historical society
or Arts Commission. They would be looking for credibility and someone to step up to
the plate for the restoration and have a sustainable operation of the building on a long-
term basis.
Ms. Moeller commented the City Commission responds to the community. The need to
attend the next CRA meeting was agreed on in order to stop the demolition. Mr. Oyer,
III, summarized having a separate grass roots effort committee that brings in experts is
needed. Having an action plan and detailing how to pay for a needs assessment is
needed, and how fast it could be done. There were groups willing to partially fund an
assessment. A simple document with a business plan was the desired end product.
The scope of work needed to be determined. It was acknowledged some parts of the
document would be easy, and there may be some philanthropists in the area, but it was
not easy to raise money without a plan.
Ms. Budano commented the implementation portion of the assembly retreat was
referenced. Ms. Lejeune commented the Community Relations Board is tasked with
branding for the City of Boynton Beach for tourism and economic development. They
were currently addressing that issue. There was discussion the two groups should run
in tandem with one another. The focus of the issue was the furtherance of the arts in
the City, and when presented in that manner, the City Commission would not turn the
other way.
There was discussion on forming a subcommittee or using the Community Relations
Committee. There was agreement the first step would be to attend the next CRA
meeting. Ms. LeJeune confirmed the Arts Commission could request the CRA consider
their plan. The next City Commission meeting was June 19.
The Arts Commission urged the Old High School be the lead facility.
Mr. Oyer indicated there were two issues to contemplate. One was it might be a
valuable cultural artistic site and therefore, the CRA hold in abeyance any idea to turn it
over to the City Commission for demolition. Secondly the Arts Commission was
endeavoring to undertake a study, an analysis to determine whether or not there is a
demand for artist space in Palm Beach County and if so would Boynton Beach be the
right location.
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Consensus
There was unanimous agreement of the Arts Commission members to convey the
sentiments made by Mr. Oyer at the next CRA meeting as the sentiments and
statement of the Arts Commission.
The board understood if their first priority location was not feasible, they could pursue
other locations. It was important to assemble a team with a talent pool plus the time
and resources to work on the matter. There was also agreement to include the names
of the individuals and organizations involved for a needs assessment.
Mr. Oyer, III thanked all present for convening. He reported the project had a great
purpose.
The board recessed at 7:50 p.m.
The board reconvened at 7:59 p.m.
D. Avenue of the Arts - Artwork location approval and additional artist.
Ms. Coles-Dobay had circulated a document detailing the placement of public art in the
City. She requested the board consider two issues when reviewing the placement of
the art. The first issue was to consider the height and weight, and the second issue
was the size. Some pieces required larger pads and some required smaller ones. They
are based on location criteria. She asked if the board was okay with how she matched
the art to the location. A copy of the art pieces and their placement was attached to
the meeting backup and is available in the City Clerk's Office.
There was further discussion on the art. Ms. Coles-Dobay gave the rational for the
placement of the pieces. They would actually be located on City property and within
rights-of-way. Some pieces might require additional research before being placed.
Consensus
There was consensus reached on the placement of artwork as submitted by Ms. Coles-
Dobay.
The Arts Commission also reviewed two additional pieces of art submitted by, Rick Beau
Lieu, Artist.
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Motion
Ms. Budano moved to select both pieces submitted by Mr. Beau Lieu. Ms. Brookes
seconded the motion that unanimously passed.
Ms. Coles-Dobay indicated the Marina Summerfest was scheduled for August 4, 2007.
Five of the locations for artwork were targeted to be installed by that time. It would
also coincide with when the rest of the art pads along the Avenue of the Arts would be
constructed. The five locations to be completed were the Marina would have two
pedestals, 4th and Ocean, 319 Ocean Apartments, the Children's Museum and Boynton
Beach Boulevard. She reported other artists were being solicited for booth space at the
festival. Ms. Coles-Dobay advised artist Norm Gibson wanted to have a booth at the
event. She showed the members how his booth would be set up. The. There were no
objections to Mr. Gibson having a booth.
IV. Adjournment
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting properly adjourned at 8:26
p.m.
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