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Minutes 06-27-01
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING HELD IN WEST WING, CONFERENCE ROOM "C", BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, TUESDAY, JUNE 27, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M. PRESENT J. Stanley Dub6, Vice Chairman Mike Rumpf, Planning & Zoning Director Larry Finkelstein Nicholas Igwe, Assistant City Attorney Pat Frazier, Alternate Dick Hudson, Senior Planner Michael Friedland Lusia Galav, Senior Planner Woodrow Hay Hannah Matras, Economic Research Steve Myoft Analyst Maurice Rosenstock ALSO PRESENT ABSENT Bob Ensler, Alternate Lee Wische, Chairman 1. Pledge of Allegiance In the absence of Chairman Wische, Vice Chairman Dubd presided at the meeting and led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. 2. Introduction of the Board Members Vice Chairman Dube introduced the members of the Board, Assistant City Attorney Nicholas Igwe; Director of Planning and Zoning, Mike Rumpf-, Ms. Lusia Galav, Senior Planner; Dick Hudson, Senior Planner; and Hannah Matras,: Economic Research Analyst. 3. Agenda Approval Motion Mr. Rosenstock moved to approve the agenda. The motion was seconded by Mr. Friedland and carried unanimously. 4. Approval of Minutes Motion Mr. Rosenstock moved to accept the minutes of the June 13, 2000 meeting as presented. The motion was seconded by Mr. Hay and carried unanimously. Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 5. Communications and Announcements A. Planning and,Zoning Report 1) Final disposition of June 13, 2000 Planning and Development Board meeting agenda items. Mr. Rumpf reportedon the disposition of the following items by the City Commission at their June 20 2000 meeting: (1) New site plan: approval for Altman (a.k.a.) Bay Vista to construct a 286 unit multi -family development on 14.33 acres at South U.S 1 was approved. (2) The Borgata site plan, which is the single-family project at Congress and Miner Road, was approved including common area landscaping and recreation area and signage approval. (3) The abandonment of the Quantum Business Park easement was approved. (4) Bay Vista also had accompanying rezoning and land use plan amendment applications, which were approved. (5) Ordinances approved at final reading included the Comprehensive Plan EAR -based amendment package, which included the text amendments to theoals', Policies g and objectives updating the Comprehensive Plan for state law and current City direction. That also included four MAP amendments, which were basically "housekeeping", changing land`.use classifications on four areas in the City to reflect their current use. Also included' in the DCA package, the amendment cycle that the Comprehensive amendments were processed under, includes, the Villa Del Sol items. Included with Villa Del Sol was a text amendment to the Comprehensive Plan; the Future Land Use element or MAP amendment, and the rezoning of that property, which is at the northwest corner of Old Dixie Highway and U.S. 1: Lastly, the Martin L. Icing Boulevard Overlay rezoning/text amendment, item was also approved. This concluded Mr. 'Rumpfs report. Vice Chairman Dube thanked Mr. Rumpf for his report. Vice Chairman Dube asked Mr. Rumpf if the signs announcing the location of the Planning and Development Board meetings were going to be changed to reflect the new location? Mr. Rumpf replied that the signs were out being repainted now. This reference pertains to the signs that are posted on the sites that have pending business with the Planning and Development Board! 6. Old Business None 2 A Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 7. New Business Assistant City Attorney lgwe administered the oath to all the persons planning to, testify during the meeting. A. PUBLIC HEARING Conditional Use Site Plan 1. PROJECT NAME: BRADSHAW BED AND BREAKFAST/ PARK SHORE MANOR AGENT: Peter H. Schmidt, Esquire OWNER: Barbara Bradshaw LOCATION: 658 Manor Drive DESCRIPTION: Request for conditional use/site plan approval for a nine (9) unit bed and breakfast establishment on 0.3 acre. Mr. Peter H. Schmidt, Esquire, 400 S. Dixie Street, Suite 420, Boca Raton, Fl., took the podium as agent for the owner, Ms. Barbara Bradshaw. Vice Chairman Dube wanted it made known that he had a conversation with Ms. Bradshaw in front of her residence. Mr. Friedland made the same comment although it went back several years when he and his wife stopped by and introduced themselves and walked through the area. Mr. Finkelstein stated that he had taken a tour of the project_ on the day of the meeting. Vice Chairman Dube advised that the board had already read and reviewed all the documentation and called the agent's attention to Exhibit "C", Conditions of Approval, asking for his comments, positive or negative. Mr. Schmidt mentioned the first two items under the Building Division and stated he understood those items had been addressed. The design professional responsible for that could not beat the ,meeting due to planned surgery. Mr. Rumpf stated there was a problem in the packet with some missing pages and stated he would quickly!, get them and update everyone's packets. Vice Chairman Dube asked if anyone in the public audience wanted to speak for or against the issue at hand. Mr. Brian Edwards, 629 N.E. Wh Avenue, took the podium and spoke on behalf of Mrs. Bradshaw's efforts to open this bed and breakfast. He said all the right things had been 3 - - , . 'j -,- R Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 accomplished. Unfortunately there was a misunderstanding on some ordinance changes relative to her not being able to open because the kitchen area was outside the room in order to make it somewhat of an efficiency setup instead of what might be considered a bed and breakfast. He wanted to ask the Board to recommend on behalf of Mrs. Bradshaw. If there is some type of requirement or misunderstanding in an ordinance that would need to be changed on her behalf I would ask you to recommend that. If you haven't had an opportunity to visit the location, he believed it was the epitome of the typical Florida bed and breakfast. He lauded' Mrs. Bradshaw's efforts to hrinn it to tha etnta it is in tnrinv Ha haliayari it hmi inht nradihility to thair nainhhnrhnnil C11 1u }v a 1c vny vl LJ%Jy 1 nv1 1 LJWCa 1 1. Ms. Jeanne Haviland, 734 N.E. ! Bradshaw's bedand breakfast pro Chairman of the Economic Developer the Boynton Beach Chamber of Cor approached the Chamber about her Boynton Beach. Because the City Board of I on M4,8, City of E rh Avenue, took the podium on behalf of Mrs. Ms. Haviland explained that she was Co- .nt Committee and sat on the Board of Directors in merce. Two and a half years ago Ms. Bradshaw ttempts to open a bed and breakfast in the City of Old, no ordinance allowing bed and breakfasts to i occupational license. After reviewing her plans, ponomic Development Committee of the Chamber significant and positive impact on the downtown expo+dite the opening of Park Shores Manor, the actors of the Chamber sent a letter to the Mayor and the City Commission 198 stating: "The' Chamber si'upporks betl and breakfast operations within the nton ,Beach. 1IVe further recommend that you research' and develop An ordinance was written antl still she 1 degi not have an occupational license to open the bed and breakfast. We willi 'support her uenture. Asa private citizen, more than two years later, 11, ask that you allow Parts Shores Manor to open as a bed and breakfast. The City would bel proud to have this iri the downtown area. Another person wished to speak on the subject and was swom in by Assistant City Attorney Igwe. Mr. Lloyd Powell, agent for the Alpine Seven Company located at 11.12 North Federal Highway, commonly known as Alpine Florist, took the podium. He stated that some years ago, Ms. Bradshaw had appeared before his Board, the' Community ordinance passed that coveredbed and breakfasts so she could open up what had always been her dream. I see another meeting again tonight; I think it is time to stop and someone really make a `hard and fast 8ecision, which should be "Yes, we will grant this variance, Yes, you can open abed and breakfast: Yes, Boynton Beach can use it. Yes, yourplace is beautiful." Ms. Linda Koshen, 657 Manor Drive, took the podium and stated she lived directly across the street from the proposed bed and breakfast. She had owned the property for 13 years and knew the property when it was an eyesore, a dump. They were very happy when Ms Bradshaw bought it and transformed it into a thing of beauty. She thought it would be an asset to Boynton Beach and to their neighborhood. 4 Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 Noone else wished to speak so the Public Hearing was closed. The missing information from the packets was distributed to all interested parties. Mr. Peter Schmidt, agent for Ms. Barbara Bradshaw, resumed the podium. Vice Chairman Dub6 advised the agent that he did not need to address all of the items in the Conditions for Approval, just the ones he did not agree with. Mr. Schmidt said item numbers six and seven did not appear to apply at all in this case because no additional construction was to be performed on the site whatsoever. Everything has been accomplishedlong ago with the appropriate building permits and neither My client nor I know of any additional building permits that would be required as a result of this conditional use. Mr. Hay asked staff if MnSchmidt had made: a true statement with reference to items six and seven? Mr. Rumpf replied that those comments were standard comments that the Building Department generates. It does not hurt to have them there. It goes without saying that if and when: , they were to <have a need, they would have to get the appropriate permits and follow the correct process. Mr. Myott asked about the comments in item three, which indicated that a building permit of some type might be indicated. Mr. Schmidt stated that all of the items had been addressed to the satisfaction of City staff. Mr. Friedland stated that) he saw a lot of happy neighbors, a beautification of the area, and he would be happy to see the project approved. He was also happy for the number of people who would come to our community and have the ability to stay at a very casual and attractive unit such as this bed and breakfast. If there is any other discussion from the board that is: one, thing but ii if not, he said he would like to make a motion. The other members stated they had: questions and comments. Mr. Myott asked Mr. Rumpf about item eight and the story in today's paper and what the applicant's plans: were to satisfy this comment. Mr. Schmidt stated that the City Commission: in December of 1998 passed what has been called the Bed and Breakfast Ordinance. Thafordinance was designed in cooperation with the City Manager and the City Staff to accommodate if you will, Ms. Bradshaw, in terms of her project being a pilot project for the City of Boynton Beach as it relates to a bed and breakfast. With that thought in mindi ; is m nderstanding that City staff commenced to draft the proposed ,ordinance. ::It came up =6 re the, City Council in November of 1998 and from the il . O:rd !itse minutes, the prod : p If was not read. (Mr. Myott said that it had come ,,pose ina before the Planning' arid"Developm1ent Board in the same month to address a square footage issue bepaus4 the units were smaller than what would, be permitted in today's codes). At the time in November of 1998 when l�it was first presented to the City Council the text: was not iread, 1 the only thing that was read was the title of the ordinance and when iti,carne !wp for the second reading, at the next meeting, that ordinance was passed. There were several inor changes that were made to the text of the proposed ordinance. Thosechanges, as: he understood itwere suggested by the person who was the Director of the 01 fining Development Department of Boynton Beach, a Mr. Kastarlak. When, those changes were made they were incorporated within the proposed 6-1 Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, Fl June 27, 2000_ draft ordinance and at that time, everyone merely presumed that the ordinance would then carry out the intent of the pilot project. It was not until late last week that this issue arose in terms of whether the ordinance applied to the current conditional use application, as it relates to nine units or merely to one unit? The issue revolves around certain terminology in the ordinance, 'that refers to small; one -roomed cottages. Thelway perceive it on behalf of my client is that, the ordinance and the way it was drafted is something less than a masterpieceof clarity. There are a tot of terms that could be interpreted' in many different ways. As an example, "bed and breakfast establishment", "the establishment", "the property", "the facility", "the inn"; "the premises", and "one -room: cottages" are all referred to ih the I ordinarice.i., 1 Various terms are used interchangeably throughoutthe ordinance so it raises the question in terms of clarity lot ambiguity as to what it really means. It would be the position of my client that one -room cottage means the 'same thing as a bed and breakfast establishment, the property, the inn, the premises, all Iof which could be interpreted, any number of different ways.I IThe pity Istaff has looked at it slightly gafferently alndi that -iswhere we are raow. Mr. Myatt said, `You would interpret the ordinance as' sayingii that kitchen facilities are acceptable because they are acceptable withinithe Ioneled +cottage. You are saying that the way you read it, 'it was acceptable?" Mr; Schmidt replied yes, as 1 it relates to all nine 'units. Vice Chairman Dube said to Mr. Rumpf, "Whether e approw the conditional u e or not, she cannot get an occupational license is that correct. Mr. Rumpf stated that was correct. There are still conditions to be met. Vice Chairman Dube sa'id,; consequently, if there's an ergutnent with the ordinance,that is�I�Ibeyondlthe (realm of this Boardto hear. That is1 between the,applicant and thea ,City.' Mr. t4Wrlpf said; that, staffs interpretation- Was based on what (they felt was the, intent ofithe lbommissiQn when they, made these last changes toi iti but also; based upon I#ho natjl Gal, standards, for'Ilbed and 1 bteakfasts. What makes this project unique, and I thin � will bey our justificetio,n for Irnodihcation lot!the code, he said, had il todo with the zoning district llthatl it is within. The difference between this one ajnd imolt other§ islthat�thrsIs,IIinIIo rrtt'lt��fa�r lily zoningld trict. Thebasic issue with bed Land breakfast a tablishi,pili iis tip 1 ant Ito lcreato an ordinance to (allow something to happen►ith the L 1drll ho11�;Il6w thgm Ilton Contain rtgrel than one family which: in mosit zoning) c+�dee�l js��lprghllblte�l,l it is in t�� e��mc�lellfarni��lzonrngjdlstricts that (thelbedllIantl pr��ldfc Iprn]inate I�� 1II1 o l not reoom end t tllit pal rra©dified,'to eliminate the11 prohibE#lob a!ait�st I X! one IIIs Iba usellly rant t4�mower Y don't want them'to Ibe;Ieasily�con a ed�l i� int ll�,100g to apartm' n s1�11 In �tnost� cases, tho!sIg units are' in single) Il`arriify lizp Icing istrictsl aI Iq y 'iuI Iwa�nt Ilthemo IIbe11 Ik�ed ad1 breakfasts);) You S, them eati�ag' III dni4I1Un#il,*Jt tral ilia{oil h;Ilc ka h i�ted malsil ��� flow dont (see #erttl,llbedding II �I�.�iII �1��I111 dawn;in theirou Inl in tivll��IltheNro"Wr fpoal�ullCitctaens, aractls iforul Vice Chairman Dube asked ir tulrfipfillE'f lit �nroull�l q'Ibe�Ifl�betterilfor the �applicant,to . 1 I Mr Rum f said withd�a�+ and postpongl tt�e Id1.�glcisrc�rn Ilunt'i" 1�Fje I�lty Icoul II I1r�na �thi� loptl. p I 1 I I 1 III I I I (.IFI I I I I I I I that,;they corVld (get lap lrov 1 9; � ;rred, r I o+ eth�� �l ItheyI rould �bagin rfieeting the other conditioi-hil l I rd ilnje the p'I�i � Irl ,ri� �l1 a r��� lon lapplil �onlfor,I;I�,e code�Iarnendment. Mill Itlall wstheM:pili roceadlfor taldu �tIII'�Ilmgh Il h n�l� #Io�ieisai I. III IIII I Mr. (,Schmidt stated that it wase Ilyisill1, 1r �leltst:r ldirig ithafl ih;l t is Board approves the conditional use this evertiing, you woujle beI'approw�ng at leastlllne of the nine units and, 6 I Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 taking that a step further, my client would be able at that point to obtain an occupational license as it relates to one unit, not that she would do that but that would be the effect of this Board's approving the conditional use. Mr. Rumpf said that to give them a comfort level the zoning is multi -family and they allow multiple unrelated individuals to live under one roof in the =same building. It is just an issue of how the code applies to bed breakfasts and how it applies to this particular use. Mr. Friedland had a question. He recalled a meeting in 1998 where he left with the opinion that this was well along the way and he assumed that the applicant had probably spent money and expended effort in the belief that her project had been previously approved. Mr. Friedland was concerned about the ambiguity that surrounded the earlier decision. He believed that the board should approve this request as a. benefit to the community as a whole. ViceChairmanDube stated that what was on the agenda this evening was a request for a conditional use/site plan approval for the nine -unit hoed and breakfast establishment. We can either approve, or deny the conditional use and the site plan and, from that point on, it is between the iappl icant and the City, as far as getting an occupational license and so forth. Motion Mr. Friedland moved to approve Bradshaw Bed and Breakfast/Park Shore Manor's request for conditional use/site plan approval for a nine -unit bed and breakfast establishment on 0.3 acres subject to all staffs conditions and recommendations. The acreage amount was corrected by Mr. Myott to .71 acre. Mr. Finkelstein seconded the motion that carried 7.0.' Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment 2. PROJECT NAME: 20/20 PLAN OVERLAY DISTRICTS AGENT DESCRIPTION: City of Boynton Beach Request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Element through the addition of Policy 1.9.5 and amendment to Policy 1.16.1, which implements Objective 2.4 of the Boynton Beach Vision 20/20 Redevelopment Master Plan by the establishment of overlays and design plans for primary target areas. Mr. Rumpf stated that the Comprehensive Plan was a document that laid the groundwork for future changes or Land Development Regulations that affected land use. Basically this agenda item pertains to the identification of overlays, and referencing the redevelopment recommendations in the Visions 20/20 Plan, incorporating them into our Comprehensive Plan. The Comprehensive Plan, the text of the Comprehensive Plan, 7 Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 and properties in excess of -10 units can only be modified twice per year and we are processing right now our first cycle of the 2001 plan- amendments and that is what is before the Board today. A lengthy discussion ensuedpertaining to various desired amendments and ways and means of getting" hem included in this cycle of the plan amendment or the next one. As additional amendments were not considered to the Comprehensive Plan when; previously,; amended, the Board directed;, staff to arrange for land use analysis and schedule a workshop to discuss desired amendrpents. The Board was concerned that they had not been given time. to review and revise the consultant's recommendations before the amendment was processed. Mr. Rumpf advised that the members would be given a copy of the revised Comprehensive Plan; to assist in their formulation of recommendations of, issues that should be discussed. Also, Mr, Rumpf'said that a workshop could be held prior to the Round 2 cycla io tDctoper of this year. Many people felt that there should be some sort' of a moratorium on zoning until certain pressing decisions were made in this area. One area of particular concem was the M1 industrial area across from Hunter's Run' on the Congress'Avenue corridor. Another concern was the adoption of a ' ten -foot parking space versus the current 9 foots spaces. The Intracoastal area was another concern. Mr. Rumpf believed that additions to the current plan would delay the current,cycle'by orle to two months. Motion Mr. Rosenstock made a motion to direct staff to start the process to make a revision in the Comprehensive Plan regarding the area east of Congress Avenue, west of the railroad and 1-95, and north of the 1_30 +canal that is currently zoned M1; to include a recommendation as to what should be there and provide a schedule' of when it can be accomplished. Mr. Finkelstein asked if 'the motion was asking staff to come back with recommendations for alternative uses for that area that might be considered in future comprehensiveplan amendments? Mr. Rosenstock said yes and that he just wanted to get the process started." Mr. Friedland seconded the motion. The motion carried 7-0. Motion A motion was made to approve the request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Element through the addition of Policy 1.9.5 and amendment to Policy 1.16.1 which implements Objective 2.4 of the Boynton Beach Vision 20/20 Redevelopment Master Plan by the establishment of overlays and design plans for primary target areas. The motion was seconded by Mr. Hay and carried 7-0. 8 Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, Fl 3. PROJECT NAME: June 27, 2000 WOOD PARTNERS TEXT AMENDMENT (POSTPONED) AGENT: Kilday & Associates, Inc. DESCRIPTION: Amend Policy 1.16.1- of the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Element to increase the maximum density in the High Density Residential land use category from 10.8 dwelling units per acre to 16 dwelling units per acre. Mr. Rumpf handed Vice Chairman Dub6 a letter from the agents for the project, Kilday_ and Associates, Inc. which requested a postponement of Agenda items 7.A.3 and 4. Vice Chairman asked the members of the Board if they wished to postpone it. There was a rather large public audience present to speak on the amendment. Assistant City Attorney lgwe stated that the amendment could not bediscussed in the absence of the applicants and the meeting would have to be noticed for another day and time when the applicant or his agent would be able to attend. Vice Chairman Dub6 expressed his regret to the public that had come to the meeting specifically for this subject. Land Use Plan Amendment (POSTPONED) 4. PROJECT NAME: WOOD PARTNERS AGENT: Kilday & Associates, Inc. OWNER: Wood Partners LOCATION: West side of SW Sth Street approximately 118 mile north ofWoolbright Road DESCRIPTION: Request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map from Local Retail Commercial (LRC) to High Density Residential (HDR) for 14.18 acres. Some of the members believed that the meeting room would not be large enough to contain the number of people that would be coming out to discuss these amendments. 8. OTHER None. 0 Q Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 9. COMMENTS BY MEMBERS New Meeting Place for Board Mr. Finkelstein asked for a microphone for the public'suseas it was difficult for their remarks to be heard. It was also difficult for the public to hear the Board member's comments for the same reason and the members commented that they needed microphones as well. Another member believed the quality of the tape recording of the proceedings would also be hampered considerably by the lack of microphones. Mr. Rosenstock stated that one of the Commissioners, he believed it was Mr. Black, was worried about, the board's intimidating the public due to sitting at a raised' dais. Mr. Rosenstock made the suggestion that this board would be more than happy to sit at the same tables on the floor so they were not above the heads of the audience, all so they could have a room in which the public could be comfortable. He asked that Mr. Rumpf convey, this comment to the' Development Director, He also asked the secretary to include the comment in the mina#es. Mr. Friedland stated, for the record, that they had recently met with the people from Quantum Park who talked about a $100M project for the community with a 11,000seat theater, seven restaurants, three motels and so forth, He stated that to call that type of a group fora first-trne;rneeting, into this room (Conference Room C West Wing), under these conditions; with the ceiling the way' it is, for whatever their reasons may be, he found was rather' short-sighted,, and he wanted it to !be known. He said that this Board did not always agree with the Commission and certainly not in this case but that the concurrence of the Commissipn with the Planning and Development Board's decisions reached into the 90�' percentile, indicating more in common and more agreement than disagreement. He believed this was the wrong way to treat this committee. He called for a reconsideration oftheI decision',to move the board to this room and a meeting with the "powers -that -be" to discu6s why,and see what can be done to ;change the situation around for the comfort of the citizens and the board, Mr. Hay asked Mr. Runpfwhat the:' reason was for moving the board to this conference room. Mr. Rumpf was Inot given a1' season he stated but the other board members said that the reason was that thhe board members were perceived as intimidating by the public due to sittiog.i on the raised dais. He asked about the comfort of the public and why it was not considered4 Non -Conforming Signs Vice Chair Dube stated that he had a list dated 12/4/97 of the 1992 Inventory of Non- conforming Signs and ',he commented that the signs were still non -conforming. Mr. Finkelstein stated that this was coming before the Commission as an agenda item at the July 5 meeting: Mr. Rumpf said they were reviewing all three sign elements simultaneously. There is a workshop set up on July 13 to discuss Billboards specifically and where they want to go with that angle. Another inventory has been done on site signage. An inventory is being 10 1 Meeting Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 done 'right now on wail signage. An inventory had not been done previously for that. We are waiting for Commission's direction to proceed with citations. Ten Foot Parking Space Issue Mr. Ensler asked Mr. Rumpf for an update on the ten foot parking space issue. Mr. Rumpf replied that he had an interesting tidbit to offer on this item. He said they would be bringing those revisions to the board for their review. He said they ;had to be formally made into code. Previously they were only shown in engineering drawings, technical drawings that were referenced in the code, which .allowed the City to modify them without ordinance. Staff supports this change. However, he said, it will be packaged with something else in connection with the Marina project's tri -party mediation agreement. There were some parking spaces that were eliminated when they provided access off of Casa Loma Boulevard to the Two Georges property for attached parking. Out of the mediation agreement, they all agreed that a compact car space provision would accommodate that circumstance. We do not have a compact car space regulation. Mr. Myott stated that the best way to have it work would be to have a standard sized space and a compact car space. Mr. Ensler said it would not work because you would take your big car and try to make it fit. Mr. Ensler asked if the compact space would be for the entire city or only for that one area? Mr. Rumpf said that would not be what they would want to do. They do not want to say only for the Marina project, which would be too site specific; however, there may be circumstances in the Central Business District where parking is a unique element to begin with. Mr. Ensler expanded on the topic, reminding everyone that the majority of the towns surrounding Boynton Beach had adopted the ten -foot parking space as a standard. If a car is measured, four -door and two -door, and that car is centered in a nine -foot space, the door will hit the car next to it if you open the door and lose control of the handle. There is no question about it. That is if you are centered in the space. The smaller you make that space the more damage you are going to cause. Vice Chairman Dube stated that the board was not the one to convince. Mr. Ensler said that an 8.5 -foot parking space bothered him. He believed the board needed to protect the people. Villa Del Sol Ms. Frazier said they had approved a rental project on U.S. 1 south by Colonial Club, she asked how the project was coming along? It was decided that the project was Villa Del Sol A pre -application meeting was held today with some builders for that site. It is a gated rental community with extensive landscape buffering proposed. The maximum will be three stories. It appears to be very similar to a Bay Vista. Ms. Frazier said that this would help that area tremendously. 11 Meeting_ Minutes Planning and Development Board Boynton Beach, FI June 27, 2000 r „ 12