Minutes 07-11-96
MINUTES OF THE EDUCATION ADVISORY BOARD WORKSHOP HELD
IN CONFERENCE ROOM A, CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA,
ON THURSDAY, JULY 11, 1996, AT 6:00 P.M.
PRESENT
Nellie Denahan, Chairperson Wilfred Hawkins, Assistant to the
Anne Centi, Vice Chairperson City Manager
Margaret Newton
Dawn Russell
Rhona Schneider
Ronald Ehster, Alternate
Falechia Price, Student
ABSENT
Rene Stern
David Weinstein
Irene Mandel, Alternate
Ben Demaline, Student
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Denahan called the meeting to order at 6:07 p.m. The purpose of this meeting
was to discuss the members' duties as liaisons to the various schools.
Chairperson Denahan distributed an article regarding single member districts for discussion at
the next meeting. She also distributed and reviewed the eight duties of this board, as outlined
in the ordinance that established this board. She also reviewed the seven goals listed in the
Education Advisory Board pamphlet, which are reflective of the goals and duties in the
ordinance. However, they are not identical. She also distributed and reviewed her draft of the
responsibilities of a school liaison. Those responsibilities included the following:
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Meet or talk once monthly with principal and SAC Chair
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Discuss needs/priorities and bring back information to Education Advisory Board for
any action
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Coordinate School Improvement Plan Night with school and Board
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Obtain positive information for public relations, i.e., news releases
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Attend school meetings as may be requested in addition to SAC, i.e., PTA
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Liaison to be up to date on activities of school. It is the duty of the Liaison to
communicate information with Chair on a monthly basis
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Not required to be member of SAC
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Duty to SAC - minutes mailed to Board monthly
Chairperson Denahan wanted to have a grasp on what we want to accomplish before school
opens, and she wanted to be more in touch with the schools.
Mrs. Newton asked if the board's top priority is school liaisons. She suggested prioritizing
what the board thinks it can do. She felt it may be a little burdensome to have the SAC
minutes mailed to the board monthly since there are about 10 schools.
Chairperson Denahan suggested that at the first SAC meeting, the members of this board ask
the SAC Chairs to mail their minutes directly to this board. Therefore, if the liaison cannot
attend a particular meeting, the board would still be kept apprised of what happens at the SAC
meetings. Mrs. Newton suggested that instead of the SAC minutes being mailed to each
board member, that only one copy be sent to Chairperson Denahan.
Mrs. Newton inquired about the item on the list of responsibilities that states, "not required to
be member of SAC". Chairperson Denahan explained that the schools chose their voting
members in the springtime. Therefore, the members of this board may not be eligible to be
members on the SACs.
At this time, Vice Chairperson Centi arrived.
Mrs. Newton advised that Christa McAuliffe welcomed input from the community more than
from the faculty or staff. As a liaison to this board, she was well received. She felt we may
have a problem with Rolling Green because of what has happened.
Ms. Schneider advised that the SAC meetings at Crystal Lakes were not well attended. The
community's input and her input was welcomed, and anyone who attended on a regular basis
was allowed to vote. From what Ms. Stern has told her, this is also the case at Hagen Road.
She advised that Hagen Road was in great need of volunteers. She attended one PTA
meeting by mistake, and it was very interesting and totally different than the SAC meeting.
About 20 people attended that meeting.
Ms. Schneider asked if Chairperson Denahan wants the board members to attend PTA
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meetings as well as SAC meetings. Chairperson Denahan stated that one member of the
board felt that sometimes there is no reason to attend the SAC meetings. She stated that
some schools are doing extremely well on their School Improvement Plan, and the SACs are
well organized. She said she kept more abreast on what was going on at Poinciana and what
that school's needs were by attending the PTA meetings because the SAC was simply
hammering out the School Improvement Plan. She said perhaps during the end of August or
the beginning of September when we meet with the principals and SAC Chairs that we will find
out that they need us somewhere else.
Ms. Russell stated that usually if anything needs to be discussed at Spanish River High
School, it is brought up at the SAC meeting. The SAC meeting at her school is more like a
PTA meeting. She suggested that we ask the PTA to send a copy of their minutes to this
board as well. Chairperson Denahan pointed out that some schools have newsletters.
At this time, Commissioner Matthew Bradley arrived. Chairperson Denahan stated that she
invited Commissioner Bradley to the meeting this evening to give us his point of view on the
importance of the credibility of this board. Commissioner Bradley apologized for not attending
more Education Advisory Board meetings; however, he works in the evenings. He felt the
work that this board is doing is important, and that the education system in this County is in
desperate need of a lot of changes. The staff that we have in the schools cares about
educating our youngsters, but there are many things that hold them back.
He thinks educators are finally loosening their grip on education. It used to be that educators
had control of and ran the schools, and they were not interested in input and assistance from
the outside. He thinks educators are now looking for input from business and community.
This is why boards like this are important. Unless everyone experiences ownership of
schools, the schools are not going to improve much. It is important to build more schools and
fix the old ones up; however, unless people who live in and around schools and have children
who attend school experience the importance of schools, he did not think schools are going to
get the notice and attention that they need.
He said much affects the quality of neighborhoods and communities, but probably the most
important is a tax base. It is critical when companies are looking to relocate that they see a
city that has a high quality of life, and is a safe place to live. Probably the first or second thing
they look at is how good the educational system is. They want to know what type of education
their children are going to receive if they relocate here. He thinks most people are starting to
realize that education is important from a number of standpoints other than
just educating children. The final product that you turn out the senior year is so important in
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in many different ways.
Commissioner Bradley mentioned the feeder school concept. He said this board contributed
to the success at Poinciana. He hope Congress Middle School is going to come on line, as
well as the high school. There is a delay, but he hoped the obstacles can be overcome. One
of the important parts of a feeder system is that children would be able to attend neighborhood
schools and be trained in the field of technology so that they can get a job in this area and
families can stay together.
Commissioner Bradley felt the school liaisons are important in helping everyone understand
that it is everyone's responsibility to have a quality school. He knows it is a lot of hard work,
and that sometimes liaisons from this board are not very well received at SAC meetings. He
hopes the SACs are being run like they are supposed to be run, namely, an open group that
makes recommendations to the principal. He said some principals run the show and it is not
an open forum. However, he thinks the SACs are turning into what the legislature designed
them to be. He encouraged the members of this board to be SAC liaisons and to get involved
in a SAC as best they can. He thinks that is important because when you can are on campus,
it is the best way to know what is really going on and what the needs are. He pointed out that
the school liaisons can also pick up good ideas from one SAC and bring them back to the
board and share them. He advised that at least once a year we try to have a business
community representative SAC meeting involving all the schools so we can brainstorm other
ideas and see if we can improve things city-wide.
Commissioner Bradley appreciated what the members of this board do in this volunteer
capacity. He also appreciated the members of the board looking at the articles and the
specifics of how the board was drawn up so that they know their parameters. He did not think
the board is limited in what it can do because it is an advisory board. He encouraged the
board to take on as much as it can and, if need be, the Commission can reign them in.
Mr. Ehster asked when the improvements are going to be made at Congress Middle School,
and when the conversion is going to be done. Commissioner Bradley said the Superintendent
has been charged with putting a list of projects together by the end of July. There are two
types of improvements that Congress Middle School needs. The first is the standard middle
school upgrade which involves converting wood shop labs into computer labs. The other
upgrade is the technology upgrade with regard to the magnet program status. The bulk of the
upgrades will cost between $1.5 and $2 million. A master list of the
schools that are going to be granted magnet school status as well as magnet program status
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status is being put together, and we are hoping to be on that list.
Ms. Schneider asked how far pushed back is the high school now that the vote on the one
cent tax has been delayed. Commissioner Bradley stated that a number of the School Board
members have promised us that the high school is first on the list. He thinks we can count on
that being true once the money is found. The City Commission has been arguing that there
actually are mechanisms to fund the school, such as a 237 loan, which is a bridge loan. Many
of the School Board members are taking a political position that we have a lot of schools that
need to be built and a lot of schools that need to be renovated; therefore, the penny sales tax
is needed as a funding source, and they are not going to build another school until that
happens. We tried to apply some pressure in a respectful, gentle way, and we have not really
gotten anywhere. He guessed the next step is to see whether or not we should apply more
direct pressure.
Ms. Schneider asked if there is anyone in private industry that is willing to do anything about
building the high school. Commissioner Bradley advised that a couple of companies have
offered to do a turnkey kind of approach to construction, and we are inviting the School Board
to look at that as a possible remedy to the situation. Ms. Schneider asked how the School
Board felt about that. Commissioner Bradley stated that Bill Graham was the one who actually
suggested it.
Commissioner Bradley stated that the cities are in favor of a funding mechanism and in favor
of having some sort of mechanism that restricts growth. However, Jody Gleason's and County
Commissioner Karen Marcus' plan of restricting growth through concurrency would take away
the cities' ability to control development. The County and the School Board would be
reviewing plans on apartment complexes or single-family homes, and the cities would not
have any say in that matter. Commissioner Bradley stated that all the municipalities in Palm
Beach County disagree with their plan. He said it is an attempt to pull power away from the
cities. He said there are other mechanisms. He felt it will happen and that it is just a matter of
working the details out. He stated that there is a possibility that there will be a March
referendum to decide on that.
He pointed out another problem, which is that the Superintendent is not really ready and does
not feel the District is ready to pass a penny sales tax. Commissioner Bradley agreed with
her. He said that funding taxes failed in six of the seven districts in the State. This indicates
the public sentiment when it comes to new taxes. He believes we will have a funding source
in place within the next year.
Ms. Russell asked if there is a grant writing person in the City. Commissioner Bradley advised
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advised her that there is no full-time grant writing person; however, City Manager Carrie
Parker, Wilfred Hawkins, and Beth Bailey do a little grant writing.
Ms. Russell felt if there was someone to look through the tons of information about available
grants, maybe that would be a way to get Congress Middle School into that math/science/tech
upgrade. She asked if any businesses would be willing to donate some equipment.
Commissioner Bradley stated that Motorola has made a commitment to Poinciana and are
behind the feeder school concept. He pointed out that companies are a lot more willing to part
with equipment than cash.
Commissioner Bradley thanked the board for having him and said he will try to attend more of
this board's meetings. Chairperson Denahan informed him that the writer of the lottery
accountability act will be making a presentation at the August meeting. She thanked
Commissioner Bradley for attending this meeting,. At this time, Commissioner Bradley left the
meeting.
Ms. Russell asked if all the schools in Boynton Beach have nurses. Chairperson Denahan
advised that they do not. Ms. Russell wondered if Bethesda Memorial Hospital would be
willing to send nurses to all the schools. Chairperson Denahan said the commitment she
received from Bethesda is that they are doing a needs assessment of the community.
Ms. Russell asked if the list of schools that the members of this board should be liaisons to is
complete. Chairperson Denahan advised that Plumosa and Lake Worth Middle School should
be included. She said we want to make sure that we cover Boynton Beach schools thoroughly
before we extend ourselves to other schools. She pointed out that we did not have a liaison
for Rolling Green and, therefore, because of the lack of communication, we were not aware
that there was a problem.
Vice Chairperson Centi explained that the liaison of Rolling Green did not attend some of the
meetings and then eventually was no longer on the board. However, Vice Chairperson Centi
felt the board did not get the true picture of how this school was faring. She said several
people spoke well of the school, and two members of the School Board said the school was
racially balanced, but it was not. She said when you think something is rolling along smoothly
and you do not have enough people and enough time to give it attention, you give your
attention to the things that need attention. Chairperson Denahan stated that this is why she
included the following in the list of a liaison's responsibilities: "Liaison to be up to date on
activities of school. It is the duty of the liaison to communicate information with Chair on a
monthly basis."
Discussion reverted back to the minutes of the SAC and PTA meetings, etc., being mailed to
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to this board. Chairperson Denahan advised that Poinciana does a newsletter every Friday.
At Atlantic they have a SAC and a SIC. If we are going to get all kinds of minutes, it could be
very confusing, and it might be more information than is really necessary.
Ms. Schneider suggested attempting to get something from each school. If it is not enough,
then we can tackle getting something more from that particular school.
Mrs. Newton felt we need to be very tactful with Rolling Green right now. She pointed out that
it has been almost a year since someone from this board has attended a SAC meeting at
Rolling Green. Vice Chairperson Centi suggested inviting somebody from Rolling Green to
speak to this board. Mrs. Newton felt it would be better to contact the principal.
Ms. Schneider suggested we ask them how they would like us to be of assistance to them.
Mr. Hawkins felt it is important for boards to be active. He pointed out that at the Visioning
session, the Commission talked about evaluating how well boards are doing. They want the
boards to serve a useful purpose and be helpful as opposed to not doing anything or causing
controversy. This board is very important to the City in many ways. One of the City's long
range plans is education, not only philosophically, but as part of the economic development
plan. Having an important educational infrastructure in the City is a necessity in order for this
City to grow, meet the challenges of the twenty-first century, attract businesses, and upgrade
our economic status. Therefore, the Commission is looking for this board to help keep them
on track and informed, and to do some of the lobbying, fact finding, getting at the truth, and
bringing the grassroots opinions to them. This board is critical to the outcome of the future of
Boynton Beach. How you set yourself up and what responsibilities and goals you set for
yourself will definitely be recognized. Mr. Hawkins said the board would also be recognized if
you were not doing anything or were causing problems.
Ms. Schneider asked how much of a need there is for volunteers in the schools. Chairperson
Denahan advised that every school's needs are different and the need for volunteers is
tremendous in every school. Ms. Schneider stated that we never made this one of our
priorities. Vice Chairperson Centi advised that she previously made a suggestion to invite all
the retiree groups to one of our meetings and advise them that we need their help. She said
they are looking for projects. Also, the high school students need community service hours.
Chairperson Denahan thought this was a great idea and will follow up on it.
Mr. Ehster will continue to work on how to reduce class sizes. He also belongs to a retirement
group and offered to focus on recruiting volunteers. He would like to be a liaison
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to one of the high schools because he felt it was important to find out what improvements are
going on in those schools and if they meet with the kind of improvements we would demand in
this area. Chairperson Denahan appreciated Mr. Ehster's offering to help recruit volunteers.
Chairperson Denahan stated that as a result of her being a liaison to Forest Park and
attending their SAC meetings, she was privy to information regarding the needs of that school.
She took that information through this board to the City Commission and as a result, a much
needed crossing guard was assigned to that school. The City Commission also applied
pressure and the school received $4.2 million from the 1986 money that was never properly
appropriated to do all of the improvements needed at Forest Park Elementary School.
Therefore, Chairperson Denahan pointed out that it is not a waste of time to attend the SAC
meetings.
Chairperson Denahan did not think we can develop credibility through form letters. She felt
we need to go to the schools and find out each school's needs on an individual basis. She
said the ability to bring back the information from the school to the community is vital. She
was in favor of expanding our responsibilities as opposed to keeping them narrow. She wants
to make sure we are covering as much as we possibly can. She pointed out that
Commissioner Bradley advised the board to take on as much as possible. She said many
times she questions if this board is an advisory board or a doer board. She felt "advisory
board" is merely a label and that this board has tremendous responsibilities.
Chairperson Denahan will prepare a list of all the schools and SAC Chairs before the next
meeting, along with the tentative date of their first meeting. At the August meeting, the
members of the board will sign up as liaisons to these schools. Chairperson Denahan wants
to make sure all the schools are covered, especially all three high schools, Congress Middle
School, and Rolling Green Elementary School.
Chairperson Denahan suggested that at the first SAC meeting, the liaisons find out the
boundaries of the school (the school assignment code), the population, the racial breakdown,
the capacity, the percent to capacity, the breakdown of grades, and the number of students
bussed. Ms. Schneider would like the number of ESOL students in each school broken down
to show how many students actually do not speak English. Vice Chairperson Centi would like
to know the volunteer coordinator of each school.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the board, the meeting was adjourned at 7:35
p.m.
Eve Eubanks
Recording Secretary
(Two Tapes)