Minutes 09-13-10
MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING
HELD ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2010 AT 5:00 P.M. AT FIRE STATION #2,
2615 W. WOOLBRIGHT AVENUE, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
Present:
Warren Adams, Chair
Barbara Ready, Vice Chair
Janet DeVries
Gaylord Allan Hendricks
John McGovern
Linda Stabile
Mike Rumpf, Director, Planning and Zoning
Ed Breese, Principal Planner
Absent:
Eric Jones
1. Call to Order
Chair Adams called the meeting to order at 5:12 p.m. A quorum was present.
2. Approval of Minutes
The following changes were made to the minutes:
Page 5, middle paragraph, change, " . . they could ~ flesh out the Ordinance with. . "
Page 1, bottom paragraph, change, "Ms. St3bile DeVries provided an update. . . ."
Page 5, middle paragraph, add a sentence to clarify the Foundation was now able to
receive donations from anyone interested in historic preservation. If there was a major
donor interested in historic preservation, the Foundation could serve as a possible
vehicle to be used for historic preservation.
Page 3, second paragraph, change, "It was much easier to change th3n changing a
door."
Motion
Vice Chair Ready moved to approve the minutes as amended. Mr. Hendricks seconded
the motion that unanimously passed.
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3. Subcommittee update on education information
Vice Chair Ready advised no progress had been made on the video. Mr. Leal has been
extremely busy. It was discussed that when the Historic Preservation Committee was
put on the City Commission agenda, they could expedite the video. Mr. Leal works
quickly; however, he is swamped with projects.
4. Discussion of National Trust grant
The Historic Preservation Ad Hoc Committee received an $1,100 grant. Vice Chair
Ready spoke with Voncile Smith from the Historical Society who advised the Board
would meet in a few weeks and would discuss additional funding beyond the match.
Once the final figure was known, Mr. Breese would contact the National Trust and let
them know the new amount. The Trust requested they be notified if the budget
changed. This item was also discussed in greater detail later in the meeting.
5. Schedule of Tasks discussion
Mr. Breese distributed a handout and explained the Committee needed to determine
what recommendations they were going to provide to the City Commission. The City
Attorney reviewed the draft ordinance and made one slight change regarding the
Board's composition and appointment. The Committee now had a complete ordinance
ready for City Commission review. The members were congratulated on their efforts.
6. Historic designations
Ms. DeVries received a map showing existing properties that had local and national
historic designations. Updating the inventory to go back 50 years would take a lot of
work. She tentatively identified districts which could be designated first.
Historic Boynton Heights had six homes identified as having a local designation, but
nothing showing as nationally designated.
The second area was the original Town of Boynton. Ms. DeVries suggested using the
address of the Schoolhouse Children's Museum and searching that area, or using the
address by the Magnusen House. That area had one national property which was the
Schoolhouse Children's Museum building and about 18 other properties labeled as
having local designations.
Lake Boynton Estates was another area which was established in the 1920s. The
homes were Mission and Spanish-Mediterranean styled homes. Only five homes were
left including the Stanley Weaver home which was labeled as possible national
designation and the Hartley historic house.
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Another area was north of Boynton Beach Boulevard, bordered by Seacrest Boulevard
on the west and Federal Highway on the east. There were quite a few original homes
there and many older than 50 years old.
A survey of Mangrove Walk near St. Mark's Church reflected nothing was listed as
having local or national designations, but there were six properties identified for a
designation from the 1996 inventory list.
Ms. DeVries recommended reviewing the area on the most northern part of the City,
east of the highway near Benvenuto's Caterestaurant, north of Gateway and east of
Federal Highway. She suggested concentrating on the first three areas.
Ms. Stabile recommended including Tradewinds Estates West because she worked with
the County who assessed the area and they all agreed it should be a historic district.
Old Dixie Highway had a commercial nature before it turned residential but the area was
in two jurisdictions. There were about 40 homes there with half in the City and half in the
County. Ms. Stabile explained annexation was considered; however, there was no
infrastructure there and neither entity wanted to pay to install it. There were three roads
without City water and sewer in the area. She expressed it should be placed on the
endangered list on the Boynton Beach side.
Chair Adams inquired if a grant could pay for the water and sewer upgrades, this way
an annexation could go through. There was discussion this could be investigated
further.
Discussion turned to whether there was a threshold number of properties needed to be
in a district in order for it to be eligible or considered for historic property designation.
Chair Adams responded not to his knowledge; however Mr. Breese explained there
should be a pretty good percentage but there was no set percentage per se.
Mr. Hendricks thought having one of the old churches sign off on the effort would help
build support. One of the churches also owned the historic bell. Ms. DeVries explained
she had information on the six oldest churches and would bring the information to the
next meeting.
Chair Adams inquired about starting the process. Mr. Breese explained the grant was
for education and flyers to create public awareness. Mr. Rumpf recalled at a prior
meeting, there was a voluntary theme they wanted to touch on in the heart of the
Ordinance. One item on the task list was the establishment of districts or placement of
properties on the local register. The local register did not yet exist. The only list they
had was a 1996 inventory with recommendations for local, state and national
registration. When the ordinance is passed, unless it specifically referenced the 1996
inventory, it would not have any properties that would fall under the shadow of
regulation.The Committee would need to decide what it would apply to. The task list
discussed the updated inventory which was a great starting base. The base list was
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comprised of homes that were 50 years old. Now there was another set of homes
representative of another generation of architecture.
The blue homes contained on the map were from the 1996 list and they would have to
be individually designated. Mr. Breese recalled it was the intent of the committee not to
designate anything the homeowner did not support. Mr. Hendricks agreed it was
voluntary and primary education would be the focus to get the owners excited. They
would use it as a base.
There was a cost and time element involved in designating 16 homes in one area as
opposed to designating one district that already had contributing buildings. Having a
survey done of the whole district would be more expensive and they may only move
forward with only one application instead of 16. The City was creating tools for property
owners to use to preserve their property.
Mr. Rumpf explained the map used by Ms. DeVries was created as part of the
Evaluation and Appraisal Report on historic properties. It did not extend to the Woman's
Club which went to 9th Avenue.
Chair Adams thought once the Ordinance was created it was appropriate to provide
some kind of guidance. He inquired whether the Committee should develop design
guidelines. Mr. Breese commented it would be costly to have an outside company do it.
Staff could potentially draft the design guidelines if it was part of the Ordinance. It
would take time but it would be a cost saver.
Vice Chair Ready suggested proceeding with the Ordinance and working on the
guidelines simultaneously with one area to be designated. She inquired if they
proceeded with the Ordinance whether they could apply to be a Certified Local
Government (CLG). Mr. Breese responded they could with the Ordinance and the
seating of a Board. She suggested the sooner they did so, the sooner they could
qualify as a CLG and for CLG funding.
Dialogue followed that design guidelines were needed; however, nothing was yet
designated and this could be the first mission of the Board. It was the Historic
Preservation Board that ultimately would have the final say on the design guidelines.
The Committee members needed to build support. Mr. Hendricks suggested they have
something in place to answer questions.
Mr. Breese explained staff could put together a list of frequently asked questions and
answers, this way the public would have more confidence in them and the process. It
was also suggested listing the advantages of the designation to encourage homeowner
buy in.
There was discussion whether the members wanted to put the Ordinance forward
without receiving public input. The first reading of the Ordinance did not allow for public
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input but the second reading did. Mr. Hendricks thought it would be better to garner
public support first.
Mr. Breese again requested the Committee determine what they would recommend to
the City Commission. After discussion it was ascertained they wanted a Historic
Preservation program and staff member. If they wanted to qualify for funds and have a
real program, they needed a person. Delray Beach and West Palm Beach handled their
program the same way.
Discussion returned to the National Trust and whether they could have the flyers ready
before the next meeting. The members needed $2,600 to print and mail the flyers. They
received $1,100 and if they could get the Historical Society to commit to $1,500, they
could take the first step and conduct the public outreach. They would then have to get
approval from the National Trust and then obtain bids for some of the items in order to
meet the National Trust requirements. In the meanwhile they would prepare the flyer
and put the meeting date on it.
The members also discussed holding a town hall meeting at the Woman's Club as
opposed to the Library. Dialogue ensued not including the meeting date because the
members could mass produce the information. They were working on a 30-second PSA.
Mr. Hendricks announced he also had postcards they could use. The cost to print them
was about $150 per thousand both sides, glossy and it may be cheaper to print the
postcard.
Chair Adams discussed the procedure the City followed for Ordinances and inquired
whether they had to statutorily notice property owners within a certain radius of the
project. Mr. Rumpf responded they follow the statute or local ordinance requirements
regarding public notification; however, the notification usually pertained to variances,
Code changes, zoning changes and others. Mr. Rumpf thought it was a step in the right
direction. It created public awareness and involvement in the final stages of the
ordinance's adoption. It could also avoid the City Commission sending the Ordinance
back to the Committee. The notification could result in minor changes but still gain
support. Mr. Hendricks commented the process was open to the public and thought
posting the information on the web site and having a published piece to the individuals
who would be affected was sufficient. It could be a direct mailing. The design
guidelines could be discussed at future workshops.
Vice Chair Ready suggested moving ahead with a postcard and trying to schedule a
meeting. This method would be much cheaper than the tri-fold flyer. The members
could place flyers in public buildings, and as many other locations as possible. There
were ways to get the word out. The Mayor had announced the Committee had received
some funding, but did not mention the meeting date. Additionally, Vice Mayor Ross
could mention it at the City Commission meeting. Ms. Stabile thought a grassroots,
knock on doors and send out letters and using a door hanger campaign could be
beneficial in targeted areas.
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Mr. Hendricks thought they could hold an educational meeting hopefully at the Woman's
Club if it was free, and if not at the Library. The press could be invited and between the
website, the City Commission meetings and other media, they could start to build
interest and promote buy in. Phone calls to interested individuals would also be helpful
as would placing signs on lawns.
Ms. Stabile left the meeting at 6:12 p.m.
The Historical Society, Ocean Avenue neighborhood, Save the Old High School
proponents and meeting attendees from the public and the Woman's Club could lend
support. It was important; however, to be prepared, have answers ready and be willing
to combat the naysayers.
It cost $900 to rent the Woman's Club. Vice Chair Ready agreed to approach them, and
it was suggested they may be able to use the facility after the Historical Society
meeting, which was held there. They could also make a presentation to the Historical
Society and/or approach Ms. Smith to see how much the Historical Society could
contribute.
The outline of recommendation topics was reviewed and ranked as follows:
1. Preservation Program
2. Staff Liaison
3. Advisory Board
4. Promotional Information
5. Set architectural Standard
6. Property inventory
7. Designation of districts/properties
Mr. Breese recommended identifying some of the options associated with the
recommendations so they could be presented to the City Commission.
The Committee wanted a full-time staff member. As for designation of districts, usually
individuals who want the designation come forward and request it. The planner will help
them through the process but they did not make the designation. Mr. Breese
commented the Committee needed to provide the rationale for their request and the
backing. Each recommendation needed full thought-out support.
Chair Adams suggested each member develop a basis for their support. He suggested
providing options for their recommendations requesting a full-time planner, a part time
planner, then a student intern or a consultant. By that time it was thought the Public
Service Announcement would be finished and the Ordinance ready. Then the
Committee may be in a position to approach the City Commission. Chair Adams thought
it would cost about $10,000 to process the smallest district starting from scratch.
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Mr. Rumpf suggested consolidating the individual recommendations which could be on
a matrix. They could have a subcommittee meeting, or the members could email one
another. Mr. McGovern thought it made more sense to discuss staffing and items 3 and
5 of the recommended topics would fall into place. It was noted the City spent $70,000
for a study to create the Foundation. If the program had one staff person, it would allow
for consistency.
7. Summarize tasks or accomplishments for next meeting
The members would outline their topics, and staff would develop Frequently Asked
Questions and have them ready for the next meeting. Information could also be
fashioned to identify how much something would cost if a staff member was not hired.
8. Staff comments
None.
9. Public comments
None.
10. Announce date of next meeting
It was noted the next regular meeting would fall on Columbus Day. After discussion it
was decided they would meet October 11,2010.
11. Adjournment
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting properly adjourned at 6:39 p.m.
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Catherine Cherry d'
Recording Secretary
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