Minutes 09-10-80MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD AT CITY HALL,
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1980
PRESENT
Edward F. Harmening, Mayor
Walter "Marry" Trauger, ViCe Mayor
Joe deLong, Councilman
Marilyn Huckle, Councilmember
Norman F. Strnad, Councilman
Peter L. Cheney, City Manager
James W. Vance, City Attorney
Betty Boroni, Deputy City Clerk
Mayor Harmening called the Special Meeting to order at 10:20
P. M. and announced it was called on September 2 for the pur-
pose of discussing and clarifying any issues regarding the
referendum to be placed on the ballot for the general elec-
tion regarding changes to the charter in respect to City
elections.
Proposition Re: Choosing Mayor
Mayor Harmening referred to the proposal to change the office
of mayor and stated there were three possibilities submitted.
Mr. Trauger stated that he has not heard any comments one way
or the other as to how the mayor should be elected. Most
people seem to accept our present system, but neighboring
towns follow the system of electing a mayor independently.
Mr. deLong told about there being constant comments about it
and this was proposed to accommodate the people who made the
requests. He stressed that this Council went on record to
have these propositions put on the ballot. Mayor Harmening
referred to clarifying the method proposed and Mr. deLong re-
plied the three recommendations submitted by the City Attorney
could be put before the people or what was on the ballot prev-
iously, but it must be put before the people to vote on. Also,
the number of elections discourages people and many municipal-
ities do not have a primary. Mayor Harmening stated it must
be clarified what proposition is going to be put on the ballot
and Mr. deLong replied that the City Attorney was instructed
to do this in March. Mayor Harmening explained that a more
explicit directive was needed for the City Attorney to pro-
ceed and Mr. deLong stated the City Attorney did use good judge-
ment in submitting recommendations fOr our choice, but he
should have used his capability to submit final recommenda-
tions.
Mayor Harmening asked Mrs. Huckle which proposition she felt
the people would be most favorable to regarding the election
of the mayor and Mrs. Huckle replied that she also had not
heard much about this from the people. She is not against
putting a proposition on the ballot to see if the people
would like to make a change similar to the previous ballot.
She read Proposition No. 3 from the September 7, 1976 ballot.
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Mr. Trauger questioned the three year term for mayor and Mr.
deLong replied that it can be changed to two years. Mr.
Trauger stated he would go with the proposition as stated in
1976, but would change it to a two year term. Mr. deLong ex-
plained that the three year term was noted in 1976 so the
mayor would remain in office with the holdovers.
Mr. Strnad stated he feels there could be the possibility of
someone with no experience at all being the only one running
for mayor and .could be elected. With the current way, the
mayor serves as vice-mayor for a year to become acquainted
with the procedure. Mayor Har~ening stated the proposition
could be changed with noting the mayor will be elected for a
three year term with serving the first year as vice-mayor.
Mr. deLong clarified that his prime concern is to get this on
the ballot and let the people ¥ote on it. Mayor Harmening
suggested that we decide what the best solution is instead
of giving several choices with creating a lot for the people
to read.
There was reference again to the qualifications of one person
running for mayor and discussion ensued how there may be a
problem with independent mayor voting on such an occasion.
Mr. Cheney clarified that if a mayor is elected at large,
we may end up with somebody not experienced and the only
way to prevent that is to have the present system where the
mayor must be on the Council for a year.
After further discussion, Mayor Harmening asked Mr. Vance if
he had a solution and Mr. Vanc~ replied that there is nothing
perfect. The existing system does guarantee that the mayor
will have one year's experience.
Mrs. Huckle read the procedure proposed by Ocean Ridge and
the comments made by their commissioners. They discussed
the requirement of a person having to be a member of the
commission before becoming may6r. Mrs. Huckle read the
residency requirements of Lake Worth. There was further
discussion regarding the terms of office in various cities.
Mayor Harmening requested comments on a separate election
for mayor and Mr. Sam Wright a~vised that most people are
concerned with districting which could be easily accom-
plished utilizing the same system.
Mrs. Huckle referred to the elimination of primaries and
questioned how this could be done when having a number of
candidates and Mayor Harmening replied this could result
in someone getting elected with 15% of the vote. Mr.
deLong stated we don't have provisions that if someone gets
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a majority in the primary, they are automatically elected~ Mr.
Vance agreed this could be corrected. Mayor Harmening added
that he would be in favor of this,
Mr. Trauger moved to put it on the ballot for the election of
Councilman on the primary who receives 50% plus one vote is
elected. Mr. Vance stated this is in essence the system of
the State of Florida. Mayor Harmening added that they will
take office with the rest of them. Mr. Strnad seconded the
motion. Under discussion, Mr. Vance advised under the new
referendum act, he believes we will have to actually adopt an
ordinance containing the language and the ordinance will read
that it will become effective if approved by a majority of the
voters in a subsequent-referendum. He has guidelines now to
prepare this referendum for the ballot. The actual verbiage
will be stated in the ordinance which must be approved on
first and second reading. This motion directs him to draft
this ordinance. Mrs. Huckle clarified that this won't go
into effect for this fall and Mr. Vance replied negatively,
that it won't be effective until next year. Mrs. Huckle ques-
tioned what effect changing the date of the election to March
would have on this and Mr. Vance replied that could be a
separate referendum question. Basically this would take
effect at the next subsequent election following its adoption.
Mr. deLong added that the month of March was suggested for
election by the 'Supervisor of Elections because most of the
cities have their elections at that time. As requested, Mrs.
Boroni read the motion and Mayor Harmening clarified they
will take office when the others take office. Mr. Vance
added that the ordinance will also provide in the event that
no candidate receives a majority of the vote, then there
should be a runoff between the two candidates receiving the
highest number of votes. Motion carried 5-0.
Mayor Harmening questioned what the decision was regarding
the election of the mayor? Mr, Trauger made a motion using
the same wording as in Proposition No. 3 on the September 7,
1976, ballot reading:
Should an Ordinance be adopted amending Section 53 of
the Charter of the City of Boynton Beach, Florida, establish-
ing an independent election for the office of Mayor to serve
for a two (2) year term, limiting the number of successive
terms which a person may serve as Mayor to two (2) such terms,
and providing that the Councilman receiving the highest number
of votes in each general election shall be designated as Vice
Mayor, to serve in such capacity for one (1) year, all begin-
ning with the municipal election of 1982.
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Mrs. Huckle questioned how this would affect the other candi-
date receiving the majority of votes in the *primary election and Mr.
Vance explained that technically the number of votes should
be computed to determine the winner from the election and
runoff election. Mr. Cheney added that the vice-mayor situa-
tion will be different if it is decided there should be dis-
tricting. *Correction
See minutes9/16
Mr. deLong seconded the motion. Under discussion, Mrs. Huckle
asked if the two successive terms meant four years or six years
and Mr. Trauger replied that it is four years. Mr. Sam Wright
suggested including the requirement of having to serve on the
Council ~for one year and there were comments that this would
get back into the prOblem of having to find someone that served
on the City Council. Mr. Strnad insisted that the person becom-
ing mayor should have some experience. Mayor Harmening agreed,
but suggested that the people be given the opportunity to voice
their opinion. Motion denied 3-2 with Mrs. Huckle, Mr. Strnad
and Mayor Harmening dissenting.
Mr. deLong suggested putting the three choices as suggested
by the City Manager and City Attorney on the ballot. Mr.
Strnad suggested having the mayor serve three years with the
first year being to serve as vice-mayor. Mr. Vance advised
there would be a legal problem with setting it up for running
for a combination office. Mr. Cheney clarified that there are
three choices: running at large, continuing with how it is
done now or to elect a mayor from the body. However, these
three cannot be put on the ballot, but the Council must decide
which one they prefer. Mr. deLong stated that these three can
be put on the ballot and the people given a choice. Mr.
Vance advised to do that, three ordinances would have to be
adopted.
Mrs. Huckle questioned why the person couldn't be vice-mayor
for a year and then mayor for two years and Mr. Vance stated
this is a sitUation of running for two different offices at
one time. Mrs. Huckle stated that technically everybody is
running for mayor and vice-mayor. Mr. Vance stated the other
is a combined office which he has not heard of. She clarified
that the mayor would be elected at large and Mr. deLong
agreed and explained that the voting wouldn't be restricted
to the districts. Mr. Vance stated that in all instances, a
candidate runs for a specific position and not a combined
office. Mr. deLong clarified that at present, the charter
calls for the person with the highest votes to serve as vice-
mayor and then serve as mayor. Mr. Cheney added that this
would mean running for mayor one year delayed every year.
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Mr. deLong moved to direct the City Attorney in conjunction
with the City Manager to prepare the proposition for the
ballot to run independently for mayor in the manner and
fashion in which they think is in the best form. Mr. Cheney
asked if it was to be set for a two or three year term and
comments were made in reference to both terms which led into
further discussion about how the mayor should be chosen. It
was then decided to forget this proposition at this time.
Proposition Re: Date of Election
Mr. Trauger moved that the date of election be established on
the first Tuesday in March for the primary, seconded by Mr.
Strnad. Mr. Vance added that the runoff would be on the third
Tuesday in March. Under discussion, Mr. Strnad asked if this
would start in 1983 and Mr. Trauger replied affirmatively.
Mr. deLong referred to it starting in 1982 and Mr. Trauger
agreed. Mayor Harmening clarified that it would be effective
for 1982. Motion carried 5-0.
Proposition Re: Districting
Mr. deLong moved to set up districts. He added that it would
be the responsibility of the City Manager and City Attorney to
lay out the districts. Mr. Trauger questioned when the last
time this question was put to the people and Mayor Harmening
replied it was during the 1960's.
Mr. Trauger moved that the City elect members to the Council
from districts, who live in the district for a residency of
two years in the district. Mr. Vance advised that a residency
requirement poses some question. Mr. Trauger .clarified that
his purpose was to prevent someone from moving into a district
in order to run for an election. Mr. Vance stated that he has
some question about the constitutionality of any residency
period of time restriction. Mr. Cheney suggested that six
months could be required for practical reasons. Mr. Vance
still questioned this and suggested that the best could be
a resident of the district and registered voter of the City.
This would mean the candidate would swear an oath that he is
a resident of a particular district.
Mr. Trauger clarified that his motion was that the City .elect
members to the Council from districts, the candidate must be
a resident of the district and will be elected by the vote at
large. Mr. deLong suggested that Mr. Cheney and the staff in
conjunction with the City Attorney lay out the districts. Mr.
Strnad suggested that Jackie Winchester's office would be more
capable to do this. Mr. Trauger clarified that another ordi-
nance would have to be prepared to define the districting.
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Mayor Harmening referred to districts having equal population
and asked if until the census is complete, do we have an exact
count of the population? Mr. Vance replied that the only
thing we have now is the 1970 census and going to the voter
registration rolls doesn't help because so many people do not
register. Mr. Trauger stated the census statistics are sup-
posed to be available at the end of this year and Mr. Vance
stated he heard they would be available in the spring. Mayor
Harmening stated to go according to the 1970 census in our
case would be meaningless. Mr. Trauger referred to prelimi-
nary census figures being released and suggested accepting the
estimated population figures for Boynton Beach.
Mayor Harmening asked if the staff should determine the dis-
tricts or should it be done by the City Council? He added
that districting is normally a legislative function and Mr.
deLong explained that staff usually sets it up with approval
by the legislative body.
Mr. Trauger requested comments from Mr. Sam Wright regarding
districting and Mr. Wright replied that it must be done
equally. He added that districts are changed frequently
in other cities depending 'on the population and Mayor
Harmening agreed this was necessary.
Mr. Cheney stated the first question is does the Council want
to set the general quandrants. It is a County matter as to
where those lines go to be sure each quandrant balances.
Mr. Vance advised that the City would require five districts.
He asked if we have any estimated census figures at this
point and Mr. Trauger replied affirmatively. Mayor Harmening
clarified that if the Council goes along with this, another
session will have to be held to draw up the districts. Mr.
deLong stated the staff is capable of doing this. Mr. Cheney
informed him that it is not a question of capability, but who
is to be responsible for it. Mr. deLong clarified that the
Council will be responsible with the approval process.
Mr. Trauger added to his motion that the City Manager and
staff be instructed to draw the districts based upon the
recently released census statistics for Boynton Beach, five
districts. Mr. Vance added this would be subject to final
approval by the City Council. Mr. Strnad seconded the motion.
Under discussion, Mrs. Huckle asked why the mayor was against
districting and Mayor Harmening replied that he doesn't feel
it is the best way to do things. With people representing
one district, it brings back the old spoils system and he ex-
plained. Also, it will require readjusting the boundaries
from time to time in a rapidly growing area. Mrs. Huckle
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questioned how the people could be asked to do this without
doing it yet and Mr. Vance explained that an ordinance will
be prepared that will actually do it and it will contain
descriptions of the proposed ~stricts one through five and
the ordinance will say to become effective upon approval of
a majority of the voters of the City. The districts cannot
· be stated on the ballot, but a referendum question will be
put on the ballot indicating that copies of the ordinance
are available. Mr. deLong suggested that a map could be
published in the paper. Motion carried 3-2 with Mrs. Huckle
and Mayor Harmening dissenting.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Harmening ascertained there was no further business to
come before the Council. Mr. Trauger moved to adjourn,
seconded by Mrs. Huckle. Motion carried 5-0 and the meeting
was properly adjourned at 11:40 P. M.
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