Minutes 11-19-11 MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL JOINT CITY COMMISSION COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD MEETING HELD IN THE
LIBRARY PROGRAM ROOM, LIBRARY, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA,
AT 9:00 A.M., ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2011
PRESENT:
Jose Rodriguez, Mayor Lori LaVerriere, Interim City Manager
William Orlove, Vice Mayor James Cherof, City Attorney
Woodrow L Hay, Commissioner Janet Prainito, City Clerk
Steven Holzman, Commissioner
Marlene Ross, Commissioner
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Mayor Rodriguez opened the special joint meeting of the Commission and Community
Redevelopment Agency Board at 9 :01 p.m.
Mayor Rodriguez had created an agenda and reviewed the various topics for discussion
as follows:
I. Confirm existing City Hall /Police site for renovation /expansion
II. Fire Station #1 — Do we need Station #1 for space
III Sources of Revenue
IV. Instruct staff to explore more specific details
Vice Mayor Orlove wanted to include discussion relating to the Old High School.
Motion
Vice Mayor Orlove moved to approve the agenda as amended. Commissioner Hay
seconded the motion.
Vote
The motion passed unanimously.
I. Confirm existing City HaII /Police site for renovation /expansion
a. Review options /cost
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Mayor Rodriguez recalled the May 17 City Commission meeting when the various
options were discussed. There was the refresh option, remodel /expand option and
remodel /upgrade option. A 20 and a 30 year remodel /upgrade was proposed for $14
million and $24.7 million respectively.
Jeff Livergood, Director of Public Works and Engineering, explained it would be
necessary to view the options both short term and long term. It must include the vision
for the downtown and community. Space is needed for operations based on the
services and programs provided for the population and future growth. Space had been
consolidated between the east wing and west wing due to staff reductions to provide
additional space for the Police Department. The result has made the refresh option
more viable and maintains the operations in the existing complex for more years.
Some mechanical and plumbing maintenance had been delayed pending a decision on
the future of the entire complex. Life safety needs are the most expensive item that has
to be considered if the intention would be to remain at the current location for 20 years.
However, the upgrades are not necessary. There are also State monies that could be
used to reconfigure space and buildings that could be expanded within the original site
plan.
Vice Mayor Orlove noted the building does not meet certain hurricane standards. It was
speculated it could survive a Category 2 or possibly a Category 3. It was felt the basic,
essential services could be provided out of Fire Station #5 in the event of a hurricane.
Essential services in relation to building standards would be municipal government and
a new facility would be designed to withstand a Category 4. The critical police and fire
services should be provided and the support operations to provide those services.
There are measures in place for each department to continue operations after a
disaster. Mr. Livergood was not suggesting the building should be hardened to
withstand a Category 4 or 5. A total rebuild would be needed to efficiently achieve that
goal.
Carisse LeJeune, Interim Assistant City Manager, explained each department had a
COOP (Continuing Operations) plan. The Disaster Recovery Plan is tested at least
once a year utilizing the WEB EOC (Emergency Operation Center) that enables a direct
link with the County EOC. Mr. Livergood noted a plan for relocation of the
Communications Center was essential to achieve continuity of operations. City Hall can
continue to operate for many years without the life safety upgrades depending on the
level of risk that is deemed acceptable The refresh option would add 10 to 15 years of
life to the existing structure.
Vice Mayor Orlove sought consensus on the intent of the Commission and Board to
continue City operations at the current location for many years and expanding the police
space. Commissioner Hay agreed with the concept of retaining the City Hall complex
as did Commissioners Holzman and Ross. . _ - - - _ _ -'e . _ _ _ - _ _ - -e - - .
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Commissioner Holzman questioned if the expenses to expand the Police Department
were included in the refresh option. Mr. Livergood pointed out remodeling the lower
parking level for evidence storage would be a new component that would be used to
leverage additional administrative space within the current structure. By deciding to
refresh the existing building, the community would retain the option to expand the
footprint in the future as space becomes more critical with future growth. Commissioner
Holzman surmised the $4 million cost may be slightly more, but with some economies of
scale, the $14 million may be slightly less using the refresh option and expansion for the
Police Department.
Police Chief Matt Immler advised there was a critical need to expand the evidence and
property area. All the vehicles previously stored in the lower level of the garage had
been transferred to the contract tow company to utilize free storage. It would be too
expensive to move the evidence and property off site and security levels could not be
ensured. There had been $175,000 allocated for evidence remodeling within the Police
administration building. Redirecting the funding to remodel the parking garage area
would be only slightly more expensive. The figure of $5 million would address the
space issues and the evidence needs.
Commissioner Holzman offered some type of extensive fire suppression system would
be needed for the evidence and property area that would add to the cost. He also
questioned if there would be any significant savings by adding a fire suppression
system. Over time, the savings may negate the actual cost. Commissioner Holzman
emphasized the labor and construction costs were much lower now than previous
years. He supported the refresh model, but felt some of the expansion items should be
included to recognize available cost savings. The $4 million cost may increase to $7
million and stretch the life of the building from 10 to 20 years.
Commissioner Hay requested Chief Immler estimate the space needs to accommodate
the evidence and property now and in the future. Chief Immler estimated the space
need would at least double. There would be a need to have an area for storage of
evidence that is climate controlled, fire suppressed and ventilated. Approximately
60,000 total square feet would be sufficient for a number of years. It was anticipated
that Communications would either move to Fire Station #5 or combine with Boca Raton
and Delray to a consolidated dispatch center. This would decrease the space needs.
Consensus
Mayor Rodriguez summarized the refresh option, plus the evidence expansion and the
fire suppression system cost should be evaluated for future exploration. It would be a
hybrid between the refresh option and the remodel /upgrade option.
Commissioner Ross understood the fire suppression expense could be offset in some
manner by a decrease in insurance rates. Interim Chief Carter speculated some small
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savings may be achieved with the addition of a fire suppression system. Commercial
insurance rates are usually driven by the community rate for suppression. The City of
Boynton Beach has a rate of two which is next to the highest, whether the building has a
fire suppression system or not. Mayor Rodriguez interjected the expansion of space
would create an increase in liability that may equalize the equation.
11 Fire Station #1 — Do we need station 1 for space
a. True Cost
b. Cost saving elimination
c Move staff to Ocean Ridge
1. Discussion and letter from Mayor Kaleel
2. True personnel /equipment pass through cost
d. Cost/benefit
Fire Chief Carter related there were several options such as closing Fire Station #1 and
moving the unit to a different location. The Town of Ocean Ridge had expressed some
interest in housing equipment at their Town Complex. Chief Carter was concerned with
maintaining appropriate response times for the entire City. The data reveals there is a
corridor east of 1 -95 and from Gateway Boulevard to Woolbright that has the greatest
concentration of calls with the current Fire Station #1 in the middle of the zone. It could
move to the outer edge slightly with no impact since Fire Station #5 is to the north and
Fire Station #4 is to the south.
Mayor Rodriguez questioned if there was a need for the space and the allocation of the
space, in conjunction with the scope of the Downtown Master Plan. Mr. Livergood
replied the entire scenario hinges on the sale of the three City -owned properties at High
Ridge, Leisureville and South Congress. The additional space at the City Hall Complex
would definitely be needed if the South Congress facility were sold because the traffic
division is there and vehicle and equipment storage is on site presently. The
approximate value of the South Congress property was a few hundred thousand dollars.
Mr. Livergood also indicated that if Fire Station #1 were moved, the existing space could
be used for support administrative staff for the Police Department to further reduce the
burden on the current available space. Mayor Rodriguez summarized the need was to
have the Police Department centralized and efficiently functioning downtown.
Chief Carter advised the annual cost of running the physical facility for Fire Station #1 at
the current location was $50,000. There was also the cost of equipment and personnel
that would follow to any location. There is typically only one unit at Fire Station #1 and
the personnel is approximately $337,000 a year and could be as much as $400,000
depending on the classification of staff with the equipment. The equipment cost would
be $30,000 a year for each unit.
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Chief Carter agreed it would be feasible to consider running Fire Station #1 from the
Town of Ocean Ridge. The issue becomes the concentration of calls around the City
Hall location. The area runs from 14 Avenue on the north to 5 Avenue on the south,
1 -95 on the west and the Intracoastal Waterway on the east, which has the highest
concentration of calls. Moving Fire Station #1 further east could result in a fluctuation in
response times of 30 to 40 seconds. There would be the possibility of generating
additional revenues after the Fire Station was established in the Town of Ocean Ridge.
Commissioner Holzman understood, with only one unit at Fire Station #1, another unit
from another location would be responding to Fire Station #1 calls as it currently
functions. Chief Carter clarified it depended on the type of call and it happens in all
zones at any time a call is received. Due to the reduction in staffing levels, the one unit
is now staffed with three individuals.
Vice Mayor Orlove wanted confirmation the unit housed on the barrier island would be
answering calls across the bridge on the main land. Chief Carter cautioned the call
volume in the area would not change because the station moves. It would still respond
to the downtown area. The zones throughout the City would have to adjust slightly to
equalize the coverage areas.
The Town Manager of Ocean Ridge verbalized the concerns relating to increased
response times if Fire Station #1 were closed. The available space was the old Fire
Station of Ocean Ridge located at the Town Complex. Housing facilities would have to
be added to the garage area that exists. Chief Carter interjected there would only be
one unit at the location with three personnel. The available garage space was viable.
The office space and living quarters would have to be accommodated too. The Town
Manager anticipated modification to the available space in their Town Hall that includes
showers and a kitchen for the Police Department.
Vice Mayor Orlove was hopeful that a long -term relationship could be established to
avoid the necessity of future moves back across the waterway. The Town Manager
pointed out it would be an ideal location, if there was a consolidation of services for the
towns along the barrier island.
Commissioner Hay remained concerned with the changes in response times for the City
of Boynton Beach residents. The Ocean Ridge Town Manager advised their
Commission was in favor of pursuing the relocation and understood there would be a
sharing of some expenses. Mayor Rodriguez stressed a long -term agreement would be
required.
Commissioner Holzman commented the focus of the Boynton Beach Fire Department
should be the safety of the citizens of Boynton Beach first and foremost. He had
previously suggested simply merging Fire Station #1 with Fire Station #4 and the
increase in response times was a major concern. The proposal to move Fire Station #1
across the bridge would definitely increase the response times to Boynton Beach
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residents. He argued Fire Station #4 already serves the barrier islands and the
response time would change only minimally and still meet any overall State
requirements. Merging the two stations would only add five tenths of a mile to any
response time and eliminate the bridge issues.
Mayor Rodriguez recalled the original plan was to close Fire Station #1 when the new
facility, Fire Station #2, was operational on Woolbright Road. The proposal would be a
compromise of the original plans and maintain the level of service available at this time.
Chief Carter cautioned if Fire Stations #1 and #4 were merged there would be a marked
increase in the response times to the north end of Ocean Ridge. Specific data revealed
there was as much as a minute and half increase in response times. Chief Carter did
not feel that would be acceptable to the Town of Ocean Ridge. Ultimately, moving Fire
Station #1 to any location would increase response times to the downtown area.
Police Chief Chris Yanuzzi from Ocean Ridge and Town Marshall for the Village of Briny
Breezes acknowledged the cooperative efforts that have been ongoing in the
discussions. He sensed there was an underlying conflict between facilities and people.
The residents in his areas were very concerned with the proposed closing of Fire
Station #1. He emphasized Ocean Ridge pays $870,301 and Briny Breezes pays
$281,925 for a total of $1,152,226 for the protection and it is over three times more than
the estimated annual cost for Fire Station #1. The contract also includes a guaranteed
4% increase each year until 2016. Response delayed is response denied and none of
the residents of Ocean Ridge or Briny Breezes should be jeopardized.
Chief Carter explained the minimum staffing would be a single ALS engine with
paramedics and equipment. Two units with four personnel may be available depending
on staffing throughout the City of Boynton Beach. The engine can provide all
emergency services with the exception of transport to a hospital.
Consensus
Mayor Rodriguez declared there was consensus to have further discussion around
potentially moving Fire Station #1 personnel over to Ocean Ridge and the opportunity
for the Police Department to have a full facility at the central location downtown.
III. Sources of Revenue
a. Sale of City Property
The sale of City -owned property had already been initiated at a prior meeting. The
amount of revenue or the timeframe remained unknown. Mr. Livergood clarified the
sale of the South Congress location would be contingent on the relocation or closing of
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Fire Station #1. Soliciting for buyers would not necessarily result in a sale so the
process could continue moving forward.
b. Red Tight cameras
Tim Howard, Deputy Finance Director, reported the remainder of the cameras had been
installed in August and all were functioning. A figure of $300,000 was budgeted as
revenue from the cameras. There is a time delay from the issuance of the citation to the
collection of the monies. In the six months from the first installation, the revenues have
now reached $300,000. There was a net gain for the month of September of $50,000
for an estimated $600,000 a year and $300,000 earmarked to balance the budget.
Commissioner Holzman concluded the revenues would be diminishing as more people
became aware of the cameras. Mr. Howard agreed a full twelve months would be
needed to establish a more accurate revenue rate. The revenues were placed in a
separate traffic safety fund.
Consensus
Mayor Rodriguez determined there was consensus to hold the excess over the initial
$300,000 for the construction costs to move Fire Station #1. The funds could be
transferred at any time during the year. The use of the funds would require Commission
approval for whatever project.
Vice Mayor Orlove suggested a report be given at a regular Commission meeting on the
status of the revenue. He wanted confirmation that the monies could be used for any
project. Ms. LaVerriere confirmed the monies were not restricted.
c. Forfeiture fund
Attorney Cherof reported forfeiture monies could be used for special programs. It
cannot be used for normal operating costs. The money can be expended for a special
unit. The monies cannot be used to balance the General Fund for recurring operational
expenses. Chief Immler opined the security system for the evidence property area
would be allowable under the forfeiture fund. It would be used for certain building
components. Attorney Cherof explained the decision on the use of funds would begin
with the recommendation of the Police Chief to the Commission and then the
Commission would have to determine if it was a permissible use of the funding. It would
have to undergo an in depth review.
d. Bond
Another possibility would be the issuance of a bond. It appeared if the refresh option
was utilized there may not be a need to bond. Other sources of borrowing should also
be considered. Ms. LaVerriere suggested a low interest rate on a loan may be better
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than the issuance of a bond if the total cost was $4 million to $5 million. Mr. Howard
reviewed a few options. There could be a Tong -term bank loan, go into the bond market
and obtain revenue bonds that pledge sources of revenue or a general obligation (GO)
bond that increases the millage by referendum or apply through the Florida League loan
pool program that has monies for cities and counties. The interest rates are running, in
the pool and bond market, between 5% to 6 %. The debt service through the loan pool
would be $650,000 a year for ten years. The debt service on a loan would involve some
additional fees.
There are opportunities to get good deals with the current economic trends. Mayor
Rodriguez indicated there was agreement to explore the options when the plans and
figures are more definite. Mr. Howard reported there were two public service bonds
issued in 2004 and 2006 that carry debt service. Communication tax and public service
tax are pledged to a revenue bond. The funds helped to build Fire Station #5 and the
addition to the Library and Parks and Recreation projects. Those bonds would be
finished in 2027 with the annual debt service of $2.6 million.
Commissioner Holzman wanted to receive a dual response on the cost in view of the
revenue sources as a result of working together to achieve the maximum benefit.
e. Referendum
Mayor Rodriguez contended the referendum would have to be considered once the
actual figures are obtained and revenue sources are known. The matter would be
discussed at a later point in time.
IV. Instruct Staff to explore more specific details
In summary, staff had been asked to do the refresh option plus the evidence /property
renovation and fire suppression system. Staff would also explore the moving of Fire
Station #1 personnel over to Ocean Ridge and use Fire Station #1 as a facility for the
Police Department. As feedback was received the revenue sources would be more
closely reviewed.
V. Update on Old High School
Mayor Rodriguez announced no responses were received to the Request For Proposal
(RFP). Two meetings were being held with developers to discuss the viability of
previous plans and the reason for the lack of interest in the RFP.
Vivian Brooks, Executive Director of the Community Redevelopment Agency, explained
the lack of responses could be due to the economy, feasibility of the project or lack of
clarity in the RFP. The pre -bid meeting did not reveal any significant questions.
Hopefully more information could be obtained to explain the lack of response.
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Mike Weiner, a local developer and lawyer, indicated the real issue was remediation.
He suggested more information relating to the environmental situation of the building
would assist in determining how much of the existing building has to be removed. In
talking with possible tenants, there was a concern regarding the location and the traffic
flow of customers required to be successful.
Ms. Brooks felt there may have been confusion that it was a development project and
not a construction project. Mr. Livergood contended the language was clear it was a
development project. Mayor Rodriguez was pursuing a different philosophy than the
RFP approach and eventually a presentation to the Commission.
(Commissioner Holzman left the meeting at 10:41 a.m.)
Vice Mayor Orlove inquired if the intent of the Commission still involved preserving the
building and using it for public purpose. Mayor Rodriguez had not given up on the idea
of refurbishing the building. Commissioner Ross agreed. Commissioner Hay concurred
but the reality of the situation may have to be addressed if the cost to maintain the
building continues. Mr. Livergood replied the maintenance cost was minimal and there
was insurance cost. There have been steps taken to minimize the continued
deterioration.
Mayor Rodriguez opened the issue for public comment.
Barbara Ready 329 SW 13 Avenue, was encouraged there would be progress in the
downtown. The key element was the Old High School and the new branding could
make Boynton Beach the art and cultural capital of the area.
John McGovern, 2620 Spiceberry Lane, commented the Commission had demonstrated
their commitment to historic preservation. The Old High School was a beautiful building
that has suffered 20 years of neglect and needs attention. He remained optimistic that
the historic value would be realized and appreciated.
Cliff Montross, 109 SW 18 Street, was totally opposed to getting rid of the Old High
School. He thought the facility should be refurbished for municipal purposes. Mr.
Montross also questioned the status of Fire Station #1 on the barrier island if it were
evacuated. Mayor Rodriguez advised the matter would be taken into consideration.
Willie Aiken, 726 NE 1 Street, agreed with keeping the Old High School and
recommended using the building for storage to save money and rental expenses.
Attorney Cherof advised there was one more item for consideration. It was the request
for reconsideration and re- adoption of R11 -129 to include the zoning district PCD in the
notice of intent and proposed study.
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Motion
Vice Mayor Orlove so moved. Commissioner Hay seconded the motion.
Vote
The motion passed. (Commissioner Holzman was not in attendance).
V. Adjournment
There being nothing further to come before the Commission, Mayor Rodriguez properly
adjourned the meeting at 10:50 a.m.
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