Minutes 05-20-13 MINUTES OF THE RECREATION AND PARKS BOARD MEETING HELD ON
MONDAY, MAY 20, 2013, AT 6:30 P.., IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS,
100 E. BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
PRESENT:
Elizabeth Pierce -Roe, Chair Wally Majors, Director, Recreation & Parks
John McVey, Vice Chair
Charles Kanter
Robert Lapin
Catherine Scantlan
ABSENT:
Thomas Mandler
I. Call to Order
Chair Pierce -Roe called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Commissioner Joe Casello
was also present.
Attendance
Chair Pierce -Roe called the roll. A quorum was present.
III. Approval of Minutes (February 25, 2013)
Motion
Ms. Scantlan moved to approve the minutes. Vice Chair McVey seconded the motion
that unanimously passed.
IV. Unfinished Business
A. Needs Assessment
Wally Majors, Director, Recreation and Parks, explained the Department was moving
forward with the Comprehensive Needs Assessment the Department undertakes every
five years. Staff worked with the 2002 consultant, Dr. Mitra of Management Learning
Laboratories. As done in the past, they held community and stakeholder meetings,
including Commissioners, staff and various advisory boards to obtain feedback that the
consultant used to create the questionnaire.
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Based on the feedback, the consultant created a questionnaire that will provide staff the
information they need to gain a sense of the community's needs, but also have a strong
enough result to provide a viable return.
Mr. Majors distributed the questionnaire to the members and explained it was mailed to
5,000 people in the community, chosen at random. It was similar to the one used in
2002. The questionnaire was a manner of being accountable to the community, in terms
of how they deploy resources. Staff received a lot of good information and three times a
year, they survey participants in City recreation programs. The questionnaire would
provide feedback from people who may not be involved in any programs. This is helpful
as these individuals are taxpayers too, and some residents may not be aware of what
the Department offers. Mr. Majors hoped to have the data back by early to mid -July and
have a full report in August. They can then develop a work plan reflective of what the
needs are.
In 2002, it was learned many people did not know of activities the Department offered
so staff increased their promotional efforts. When results showed there was much
interest in neighborhood parks, staff moved forward with the development of Betty
Thomas Park, the expansion of Wilson Park, and the development of Intracoastal Park
and Clubhouse. As staff moved through the process, Mr. Majors would apprise the
members of the results.
It was noted the questionnaire can also be submitted through Survey Monkey, and an
inquiry was made whether IP addresses are tracked. Mr. Majors explained it was
similar to the way the Financial Advisory Committee conducted their survey. Staff also
recognized there are individuals that do not want to be identified and using a consultant
offered some neutrality to the individuals asking the questions. It was why staff did not
attend the focus group meetings. The Department did not want to give the appearance
staff was influencing the issues. He commented staff remains neutral.
Ms. Scantlan had two suggestions for the next questionnaire, which Mr. Majors noted.
He explained he would have liked the Board to be more involved with creation of the
document. He had hoped to have a lunch meeting with the members but there were
scheduling conflicts. It was noted the survey was very thorough.
V. New Business
A. Dog Park
Mr. Majors explained Commissioner Casello requested staff investigate the possibility of
developing a dog park. The Board was involved with the discussion two years ago and
last year. The discussions were related to Commissioner Holzman wanting to convert
Pence Park to a dog park, but the Board was firm that doing so would not be the best
use of that facility. The Board expressed if a dog park was wanted, it should be on land
dedicated behind Renaissance Commons. Based on an adjustment to the developer's
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impact fee, the City obtained the land. The property was shifted to a different parcel,
more centralized behind Renaissance Commons and the size was slightly smaller. Mr.
Majors pointed out the Board was due for its parks tour. The tour would provide the
Board with a sense of where the undeveloped parks were, the nature of the area, and
they can then make their annual recommendation of what the Board's priorities are. If
they would develop an undeveloped park site, they would indicate which parks should
be developed first.
Mr. Majors explained a dog park is a fenced -in area where people bring their dogs and
let them play with other dogs, off leash. Generally, a dog park is divided into areas for
small dogs and big dogs, and there is usually another area set aside to rotate the play
areas so the sod can recover. The County has a dog park at Lake Ida, and it is a
popular facility. The challenge with the parks is the maintenance, as dogs like to dig
and run, which creates a lot of wear and tear on the sod. The actual development costs
were not necessarily extravagant. The park would need a fence, a double gate, a
source of water and parking and shaded areas. If there was already a location where
restrooms were available, the City could probably develop a park for about $50,000 to
$60,000. If the park needed restrooms, the cost would escalate by about $75,000.
Mr. Majors recognized there are a lot of dog owners in the City. Based on his
conversation with Commissioner Casello, the park was something there was a lot of
interest in. He pointed out the Needs Assessment will give a sense of how the
community feels about it and whether it warranted further contemplation. When the
members take the parks tour, they will view the proposed property at Renaissance
Commons and consider whether it was a good location for a park. The Board is usually
the filtering mechanism to sense whether there is some degree of sustainability for the
concept.
Mr. Kanter thought a park directly across the street from a shopping center should help
convince business owners to participate in the Adopt -A -Park program. Since someone
has to maintain the shopping center, they may volunteer to maintain the dog park as
well. It would draw customers to their establishments. He thought it was a symbiotic
relationship, and he volunteered to be part of the team to make a presentation.
Mr. Majors agreed a public /private partnership was always ideal as the Department was
not in the position to take on another park they would have to maintain. The annual
maintenance cost for the Lake Ida Park was $100,000. The City's most expensive park,
in terms of maintenance, costs about $22,000.
Chair Pierce -Roe acknowledged the City did not have the funds for the park at this time,
but she inquired whether there was any consideration to bringing in items to allow dogs
in parks that already had rest areas and other amenities. She noted on Wednesday
nights at Oyer Park, about 200 to 300 people come for the food trucks and there are
families and children. They bring their own chairs and some bring their pets on a leash.
Those families, however, have been asked to leave while there are many dogs coming
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in and out of the boats that launch there. She thought the City might consider indicating
they do not have a dog park at this time, but there are facilities that can accommodate
dogs.
Mr. Majors responded it could be considered, but outside of the Jupiter area, many
people do not pick up after their pets and that becomes a serious health concern for
park patrons and maintenance crews. Chair Pierce -Roe thought Oyer Park was different
because most of the park was a parking lot. A sign could be posted that stated if owners
did not pick -up after their pets, they would be asked to leave.
Mr. Majors recalled they enacted an educational campaign at the beach to alert beach
goers not to discard cigarette butts in the sand. It did not work. Chair Pierce -Roe
thought the City could try it out and see if pet owners are responsible. If they were not,
the City can say they were trying to offer amenities, but it did or did not work. Most
people go to Oyer Park to fish and go out on boats, but some come for the scenery, and
the pavilions and playgrounds there are used. Service dogs are permitted at Barrier
Free Park. Mr. Majors explained self - governance is they key.
It was suggested learning how much of the concept was speculation. On Clematis
Street, in downtown West Palm Beach, everyone brings their dogs and they are in
restaurant outside seating areas. Other than Hurricane Alley, that did not occur in
Boynton Beach. Mr. Majors again indicated when the study comes back, staff will have
viable data to make a decision.
Mr. Majors noted the same kind of situation arose with a cricket field. One person was
passionate about it, but the Needs Assessment said less than 1 % of the respondents
were interested. To some degree the Assessment is blended with staff's experience and
the feedback they receive. However, it provides the opportunity for issues to be heard
by the City Commission with a recommendation from the Board indicating the Needs
Assessment either supports it or it should be investigated further. It is up to City
Commission to decide whether they want to pursue it or not.
Mr. Major's concern was staff needed to police the area. Even if they have 99%
compliance, only one or two people who did not pick up after their pets could create a
fairly strong nuisance. He was not opposed to the idea. For a City of this size, a dog
park may be warranted, but Lake Ida is five miles south of Boynton which is fairly close.
Chair Pierce -Roe thought a trial would be prudent. Vice Chair McVey thought the
private partnership would be the best way to go. He thought local veterinarians and pet
stores should be contacted to see if they would support it monetarily. Pet supermarkets
such as PetSmart and Petco, large franchises and Renaissance Commons may support
it, since it would draw people to their establishments.
West Palm has six dog parks and some did not fit the stereotype of a dog park. Mr.
Majors went to Lake Ida Park to investigate the perception the park is noisy with much
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barking, but found it was not noisy or smelly. He explained part of the cost to maintain
the park included treatments for fleas and other herbicides and while it would be a
challenge to maintain, it was recognized dogs are part of the fabric of society. It was
also why many individuals did not leave their homes during Hurricane Katrina.
It was suggested an underutilized park be a test park and that it could attract residents
to use it. Community meetings would be required to receive feedback. Mr. Majors
preferred to see what the Needs Assessment indicated and commented part of the
feedback could include whether the park should be funded by user fees. Historically,
parks are completely subsidized.
Mr. Kanter supported involving commercial establishments and registering individuals to
use the parks. Store coupons could be given to registrants to "sweeten the deal" and it
would be known who was using the park. Additionally, registrants would be more likely
to clean up after their pets. Mr. Majors reiterated that would require having a staff
dedicated to do so, and the personnel was not available. An employee may be able to
monitor the park, but not to register individuals.
Commissioner Casello understood the concept was in the infancy stage. He requested
the members understand it is an expense, and it would not happen without a public
private partnership. He has been going to the various dog parks and testing them out.
He has also been reaching out to the big box stores, such Lowes, Home Depot and pet
stores for sponsorship, but he did not have all the information back yet.
Another suggestion was to have a small memorial dog park name after a Police K -S dog
that passed away. Commissioner Casello has been conversing with the developer at
Renaissance Commons who may be willing to maintain a park if constructed there. He
agreed to obtain the data and bring it back to the Board, who could then make an
informed decision along with the data from the Needs Assessment. He commented he
was very passionate about it.
Mr. Majors agreed to review what the Needs Assessment indicated. The members
could consider the matter during its tour of existing parks with restroom facilities. He
noted City parks are not fenced in, but Chair Pierce -Roe commented if dogs are
leashed, they can walk through the parks, not necessarily play there. If dogs are
allowed in parks, the City could at least have provisions for residents to clean up after
their pets.
Mr. Majors agreed to obtain feedback from Delray Beach about doggie bags, and
allowing dogs to walk on the east side of A1A. Chair Pierce -Roe would like to learn
more about Renaissance Commons as she always see dogs there, and she was
wondering if the complex had problems with tenants picking up after their pets. Mr.
Majors did note this was another way to get residents out and active as there are
issues, nationwide, resulting from sedentary lifestyles.
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B. Department Strategic Plan (Issues /Concerns)
Mr. Majors explained staff was updating this plan and requested the members, over the
next few weeks, think of items or concerns that should be addressed. One big issue
was childhood diabetes was growing exponentially which is directly related to children
not getting exercise. He pointed out schools do not have physical education classes or
lunch recesses anymore. The Department was looking for ways to get people involved.
Anyone with ideas should contact him, and he would try to incorporate them into the
plan. The Needs Assessment is a significant component of the Strategic Plan which
would indicate the course to be taken in the future.
C. "Play Outdoors — Schedule of Events
"Play Outdoors — Unplugged" is an initiative to get people out to parks. Staff already
held two programs, one last weekend at Jaycee Park which was a family field day.
Activities like a three - legged race, Simon Says, and Red Light, Green Light were
played. This is a series of events which staff will continue to hold.
The next event was "Crazy Games, Water Day" which would be held on June 1st at
Barrier Free Park and then in July there would be fireworks and Tot Olympics at Pence
Park in October. These were ways to draw people to the parks, be active and enjoy the
outdoors.
Hester, Meadows, Jaycee, and Knollwood Parks have walking paths around them.
Chair Pierce -Roe went to Intracoastal Park and it is largely used as a walking park
between 5 and 8 p.m. One woman likes to walk the beach, but it was so breezy, this
was her next alternative and she likes the area. Mr. Majors noted Meadows Park is
busy. Pence Park is becoming more and more active and it has two kickball leagues.
Mr. Majors explained at the next meeting he would discuss staff's meeting with a
representative from the Trust of Public Lands. This was the same group who gave a
$1.7 million grant to purchase Jaycee Park. The Trust, along with Recreation and Parks
Departments around the State recognized the need to use parks as venues for healthier
lifestyles. The Trust has an initiative called Fit Zones at parks. Fit Zones is gym
equipment that is used outside. St. Petersburg had great success with the program and
had Fit Zones at two of their parks. When staff told the Trust that Barrier Free Park had
opportunities for such equipment, they were very interested because they could provide
equipment that is adaptive and accessible for individuals with limited abilities. They
believe there is a chance to include this type of equipment at Barrier Free Park along
with the trails. Barrier Free Park is unique and is a great venue for this type of activity.
Many people just like to walk the park. It was hoped in a year or so, they can include the
equipment there.
Discussion followed the President's Council on Physical Fitness was a good Council to
partner with. Participants receive trinkets and create their own exercise groups. The
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Council does the work to create the activity. Mr. Majors explained recently the City, as
part of First Lady Michelle Obama's initiative, held a walk from City Hall to the beach
and back, and encouraged employees to participate.
As part of the afterschool program, the youth walk. Last year, they made maps and
monitored how far they walked. Mr. Majors agreed to look into the program and report
back on the item at a future meeting. Staff would also give an update on the
bikeway /greenway programs that creates linear passageways and connectivity between
parks. He noted the passageways are non- motorized.
A question was posed if the area east of Galaxy Elementary School was part of the
trails. Mr. Majors explained the school and the City partnered to make that area a trail
for the greenway. Working in partnership with the school, they would remove the exotics
from the scrub and use the activity as a learning opportunity for the students so they
can understand what exotics and invasive species are, while creating connectivity. A
child in that area can ride his bike from his home to the school without riding on any
roads. It was also a good opportunity to partner with Rolling Green, Forest Park, St.
Mark and Galaxy Schools.
D. Schedule Parks Tours
The members agreed to start the tours in June, as it is still light enough and cool
enough to hold them. In the past, they spread out the tours over two or three meetings.
Mr. Majors thought it was important for the members to be at the park sites to gain a
sense of what is there. Additionally, it gives the members a sense of what may need to
be addressed.
The tour would start at 6:30 p.m. and Mr. Majors would bring the bus. If they moved
quickly, they could tour about a quarter of the parks. Mr. Majors suggested touring the
Renaissance Commons and Meadows /Nautica undeveloped sites as there is some
pending discussion on them that may be brought forward to the City Commission. As
time permits, they could visit one or two other parks.
Mr. Kanter inquired if anything happened regarding the community gardens at Quantum
Park that he had suggested at a prior meeting. Mr. Majors responded nothing came of
it. A meeting was held with the Senior Advisory Board, the Education and Youth
Advisory Board, and the Community Relations Board, but the issue did not generate
any discussion.
Mr. Kanter commented he went to Marathon Key. He took slides of the parks which he
offered to bring to the Board. Mr. Majors suggested the presentation be put on a flash
drive and provided to him a week before the meeting so ITS can set up a presentation.
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VI. Items for the City Manager's Attention
None.
VII. Next Meeting: June 24, 2013
VII. Adjournment
There being no further business to discuss, Chair Pierce -Roe adjourned the meeting at
7:37 p.m.
aftwit,
Catherine Cherry
Minutes Specialist
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