Minutes 10-28-13 MINUTES OF THE RECREATION AND PARKS BOARD MEETING HELD ON
MONDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2013, AT 6:30 P.M., IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS,
100 E. BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
PRESENT:
Elizabeth Pierce -Roe, Chair Wally Majors, Director, Recreation & Parks
John McVey, Vice Chair
Charles Kanter
Robert Lapin
Trevor Rosecrans
Catherine Scantlan
Renee Stern, Alternate
1. Call to Order
Chair Pierce -Roe called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
II. Attendance
Roll call was taken. A quorum was present. It was noted there is a vacancy on the
Board as Mr. Mandler had just resigned.
III. Approval of Minutes
Motion
Mr. Kanter moved to approve the minutes. Ms. Scantlan seconded the motion that
unanimously passed.
IV. Unfinished Business
A. Oceanfront Park Renaming
Wally Majors, Director, Recreation and Parks, announced there was a long discussion
about the Park at the last meeting, and the City Commission named the Park "Boynton
Beach Oceanfront Park." The only cost for the name change was the sign; however,
the name change will allow the City to change the sign to a monument sign, similar to
the one on Congress Avenue. The goal was to have all the City's Recreation and Park
signs the same. The cost was about $7,000. All City publications will be updated and
when the parking decals run out, they will be reprinted.
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B. Dogs at Parks
Mr. Majors explained the City was moving forward with the development of a dog park,
most likely on property from the Renaissance Commons Project, just west of the canal.
The project is in the early stages of discussion and $10,000 has been allocated for a
plan.
From a parks maintenance standpoint, there is great concern about a dog park. While
Jupiter has had great results from self - governance at their parks, Mr. Majors has not
heard back from Delray, who extended their boundaries to let dogs walk east of A1A,
and Boca Raton was allowing a trial period for dogs on the beach. Dispensers have to
be purchased, which is a fairly significant cost. They must be stocked and the waste
removed on a regular basis. Chair Pierce -Roe noted Boynton Beach was only
considering allowing dogs at parks, but if they spend $100,000 to create a dog park,
there were individuals who would take their dogs and use it.
Mr. Majors suggested the Board specify which parks should be considered and a formal
recommendation made. It would be helpful if staff conducted further analysis or
obtained further information as staff would need direction where and whether the Park
would allow leashed dogs and /or licensed dogs.
Chair Pierce -Roe suggested putting the item on the agenda next month to allow the
members to contemplate what should be contained in the Ordinance or what parks
should be considered. Ms. Scantlan suggested a test park; however, even a test park
would require an Ordinance change. Mr. Majors agreed to check with the City Attorney
if a test period was allowable and commented there would have to be some financial
commitment to obtain doggy bags, and to properly dispose of the waste. A dog park,
would need three fields, plus water, dispensers and maintenance. Chair Pierce -Roe
thought there was a big investment involved and commented they had no research. It
did not seem right to her that they were considering having a park for dogs but the City
did not allow dogs in their own parks.
Mr. Kanter suggested dog owners apply for a dog -use permit which would generate
revenue. Additionally, doggie DNA testing from dog waste was available which would
ensure owners would be liable for their pets. Mr. Majors explained monitoring the parks
was the issue. Vice Chair McVey thought a park in the north and the south may be
appropriate. Chair Pierce -Roe was unsure two parks were needed contingent on the
size and location. Additionally, it was unknown how much the park would be used. Mr.
Majors explained due diligence on the part of the community was needed. It may be
embraced by the residents in the area or it may not. There are many dogs in the
Renaissance Commons area.
Mr. Majors was recently at a County dog park in West Boca Raton. They have signage
and all the amenities for dogs, but they also have a park ranger that can monitor and
ensure dog owners registered their pet with the County and the pet was spay /neutered.
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He thought if the City moved forward with a park, Code Compliance would be involved
as would Park Maintenance workers.
Mr. Majors did not know if there was a fee at Lake Ida or SW Regional Park. West
Palm Beach did not have a fee. He pointed out there if there is a fee system, there are
administrative costs, and all of that has to be weighed. There is also a liability issue if
there was an event at the park. He reminded all if they have an event on Ocean
Avenue, which was a common area, dogs were allowed. If a dog bites someone at a
City park or at a City event, the City would inherit some of that liability. He emphasized
Parks and Recreation has much liability.
Chair Pierce -Roe noted about 20 years ago, dogs were allowed on the north side of the
inlet; however, that area was a County pocket. Over the next month, the Board
members agreed to contemplate what parks may be appropriate, Mr. Majors will check
with the City Attorney to see if a trial period was an option and he would contact the City
of Boca to see how they plan to administer their program.
The County Park Mr. Majors went to had signage and the facilities were divided into
three sections. One section is to allow the grass to rest. The other two sections are for
small and large dogs each. The dogs are required to be licensed and fixed. Ms.
Scantlan explained there is a County park in the City and that could be used a dog park
for the City.
Mr. Majors thought a dog park should be a location people would drive too. Some parks
have no restroom facilities, while other parks have parking and bathrooms and are
intended to be a district park. He explained a dog park should be something along
those lines due to the amount of resources it takes to maintain. West Palm Beach has
both large and small dog parks, and he was surprised to see some in residential
districts which could have been created based on resident requests.
Mr. Lapin inquired if this was something the community continually asks for. Mr. Majors
explained Commissioner Casello advised he heard the request often when he was
campaigning. In his experience, the issue surfaces and then fades. He personally had
not received any calls, but four or five years ago, there was a strong plea from some
residents to institute a park. He emphasized the concept was not an overwhelming
request, but based on Commissioner Casello, there is an interest. Mr. Majors explained
this was the third time the City has considered a dog park. The first time was initiated by
local residents who started a petition.
Mr. Majors explained his veterinarian does not recommend taking dogs to dog parks
because there are individuals that are not as diligent in keeping their dogs healthy,
which other animals would be exposed too. Also, when his dog was younger, he did
think it was important to socialize his dog to be friendly with other dogs and he had used
dog parks to do so, but not when the dogs were older. Mr. Kanter explained his
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community has 272 units and has 200 dogs that do socialize. He explained 99% of the
owners pick up the waste.
Mr. Majors expressed he was curious to hear back from Delray Beach how things were
going along A1A. He walks there quite a bit and there are many dogs, and doggy bags.
It seemed like it is working out fine. Mr. Majors did not recall if there were any questions
about dog parks on the recent survey, but he agreed to review it and email the Board.
V. New Business
A. Park Improvements Article
Mr. Kanter had a news article about a volunteer who cleaned up one of the parks. He
would like to see the Board thank the volunteer and was not sure what the protocol was.
Mr. Majors explained she received a plaque of appreciation at the last City Commission
meeting and it was brought to the attention of the City Commission when the Board last
met. The Board had indicated the volunteer was trying to earn her Girl Scout Gold
Award. The volunteer contacted Recreation and Parks who directed her to the Forest
Hills Park, which is a small park, west of 1- 95 to south of 23 Avenue. She was able to
convince the Florida Department of Transportation to paint one of the sound barriers.
Mr. Majors noted bureaucracy is slow and government is never able to do anything the
next day, but the volunteer made it happen, giving a sense of her effectiveness. The
City Commission was thrilled she was involved in the project.
B. Grand Marshal Selection
Handouts of the nominees for the Grand Marshal were distributed. The nominees were:
• Tom Kaiser for his work on the Veterans Advisory Commission. It was thought
his work with Veterans Memorial Park made Boynton Beach a destination. Often
the Boy Scouts are involved. Mr. Kaiser has served on the Veterans Advisory
Commission for four or five years;
• Rick Beau -Lieu was nominated for his work with parks, placing sculptures in
them and for his work with the Arts Commission and Arts District. He has been
serving since 1989 and has had a studio in Boynton Beach since 1986;
• Dr. Joseph Ferrer who volunteered to provide entertainment through his
company at Boynton Beach events;
✓ Police Chief Jeffrey Katz who was trying to make a difference and change the
perception of the Police Department;
✓ Laura Orlove for her work as a Literacy Coach at Forest Park Elementary and for
initiating the Boynton Reads Program; and
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✓ Mark Karageorge for his work as a Chamber of Commerce Ambassador, a
Pathway to Prosperity Board Member, a CRA Board Member, and member of the
Choir at St. John Church.
A brief discussion of the nominees and a review of the guidelines followed.
Motion
Mr. Kanter moved for Rick Beau -Lieu. Chair Pierce -Roe seconded the motion. The
vote was 4 -3 (Messrs. Lapin, Rosecrans and Ms. Scantlan dissenting.)
Mr. Majors explained the alternate member cannot vote, which tied the vote.
Motion
Ms. Scantlan moved for Tom Kaiser to be the Grand Marshal. Mr. Rosecrans seconded
the motion. The vote was tied (Chair Pierce -Roe, Vice Chair McVey and Mr. Kanter
dissenting.) Ms. Stern did not vote.
Mr. Majors thought the alternate vote could be used as the tie breaker. Vice Chair
McVey commented Roberts Rules required a re -vote. Mr. Majors reviewed the
Ordinance and did not see anything that would prohibit counting her vote. Using Ms.
Stern's vote, Mr. Beau -Lieu was the Grand Marshal.
It was noted Rick Beau -Lieu had received the most nominations. Mr. Majors explained
Mr. Beau -Lieu would be notified the next day.
VI. Items for the City Manager's Attention
Mr. Majors commented with regard to the dog park item, each member had homework
and was to review the parks inventory for appropriate locations. If a member wanted
additional information or wanted to visit a park, Mr. Majors invited them to contact him.
The Lake Ida Park was the best example. There is a developer discussing the matter
with the City and what they can contribute to make it happen. The City allocated $10K
for preliminary designs, but it would be a while before a park would come to fruition.
There is not much space for a park and parking, restrooms, an irrigation system and
water fountains would be needed. He really had no sense where the park would be
situated and it appeared they were considering a very minimal park. There are many
variables.
Chair Pierce -Roe inquired if there were many service dogs that go to the Congress
Avenue Barrier Free Park and if there were any dispensers. Mr. Majors explained
service dogs are allowed in any park, but he had not seen any dispensers at Barrier Free
Park. Mr. Majors expressed this could be a future thought.
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Chair Pierce -Roe knew of two individuals with autistic children and their physicians
recommended dogs, because dogs would be a great help for them. Mr. Majors
explained the Department just held Surfing Autism Day and over 100 people attended
with their families, including an autism service dog. The dog is there to provide the child
with the comfort they need and to provide a barrier. Some autistic children cannot be
approached too closely or loudly and the dog provides a boundary to individuals
approaching the child.
Chair Pierce -Roe recalled there had been discussion when the Park was originally
contemplated they would ensure they had what they needed. Generally individuals with
services dogs know what the dogs need. When a service dog is working, they do not
drink or go to the bathroom, but it does not imply they should not look at ways to make
dogs a feature of the park. Mr. Majors agreed to conduct research for items that would
help and the animals can enjoy.
Chair Pierce -Roe inquired if other special need parks have anything like that. Lake Ida
Park is huge compared to some parks in Boynton Beach. Vice Chair McVey commented
he is on the Greater Boynton Beach Foundation. They are trying to hold a fund raiser
with Hunters Run and the Realtors Association for another 5K event in January or
February. He commented the Foundation was trying to develop new ways to raise funds
to improve the Barrier Free Park. He was unaware Mr. Majors picked out some nice
pieces for the park, but they had to have the funds.
Chair Pierce -Roe noted with the upcoming parade, there may be a float publicizing what
was occurring. She explained many individuals are not aware of the park. It was also
great advertising. Vice Chair McVey agreed to bring the topic to the Foundation.
Additionally, Recreation and Parks staff will be walking the parade to promote programs.
He thought the Realtors Association and /or the Foundation should participate as a
walking unit as well.
Ms. Stern spoke to the one of the realtors in Hunters Run about expanding it to the point
where breakfast would be served and more would be charged. She thought it would be
an incentive for more people to join the walk and make the function more attractive. She
has not heard anything back.
Mr. Majors explained the key to the event is the Realtors Association of Palm Beach.
The planning group includes Mr. Majors, a representative of Hunters Run and Mr.
Freeland has been in touch with the Realtors Association. Mr. Majors noted the Realtors
Association hires a race director. He also recently met with the Board at Hunters Run.
The Board and others acknowledged the need to market the event and had drafted a
flyer. As to the actual race, that is left to the race director. It was clear Hunters Run
wanted to participate. Last year, 150 runners attended and the organizers were trying to
ensure there was enough parking to accommodate all. He also hoped the Board would
participate as the event is both a run and a walk. The event could not have occurred
without Hunters Run and he thanked Mr. Lapin for brokering a meeting.
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At the last meeting, Ms. Scantlan had requested permission to bring the event to the
Veterans' Hospital because the Veterans' Administration encourages community
participation. She reported it is on the Agenda for the Wellness Committee, but the sign -
up process needed to be improved. Mr. Majors had a meeting scheduled early next
month and agreed to bring it to the attention of the organizers.
VII. Next Meeting: November 25, 2013
Motion
Ms. Scantlan moved to cancel the November meeting and hold the December meeting
on the 16 a week before they would normally meet. Mr. Kanter seconded the motion
that unanimously passed.
VIII. Adjournment
Motion
There being no further business to come before the Board, The meeting was properly
adjourned at 7:39 p.m.
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Catherine Cherry
Minutes Specialist
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