Minutes 06-16-15MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING HELD IN
COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, 100 EAST BOYNTON BEACH BLVD,
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA ON TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 2015, AT 6:30 P.M.
PRESENT
Jerry Taylor, Mayor
Joseph Casello, Vice Mayor
David T. Merker, Commissioner
Mack McCray, Commissioner
Michael M. Fitzpatrick, Commissioner
1. OPENINGS
A. Call to Order - Mayor Jerry Taylor
Invocation by Commissioner Merker
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag led by Vice Mayor Casello
Lori LaVerriere, City Manager
Shana Bridgeman, Assistant City Attorney
Judith A. Pyle, Deputy City Clerk
Mayor Taylor called the meeting to order at 6:31 p.m.. Roll call was taken and a
quorum was present.
Commissioner McCray gave the invocation. Vice Mayor Casello led the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag.
Agenda Approval:
1. Additions, Deletions, Corrections
Mayor Taylor added Discussion of Red Light Cameras to Legal as item 13 B.
Vice Mayor Casello pulled items 6 F and 6 J from the Consent Agenda.
2. Adoption
Motion
Commissioner McCray moved to approve as amended. Commissioner Merker
seconded the motion that passed unanimously.
2. OTHER
A. Informational items by Members of the City Commission
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Commissioner McCray advised a few weeks ago he attended an ACE benefit held by
NFL players at the Hester Center. It was professionally done and well attended. He
praised the Hester Center staff who ensured all was top notch. He had to leave the
event and did not know who won, but he explained it meant a lot to the players and the
spectators. He appreciated all they do for all youth in the community. He also attended
the Taste of Boynton.
Vice Mayor Casello attended the Scholarship and Public Safety Awards held at the
Boynton Beach Masonic Lodge 236, which honored two police officers, and two
firefighters. A Detective and Police Officer of the Year, and Firefighter of the Year and
Paramedic of the Year were recognized. He complimented both the Fire and Police
Chiefs on the accomplishments.
Commissioner Fitzpatrick shared he attended the D -Day ceremony at Veterans
Memorial Park on June 5 Ten veterans that served in the European theater were
recognized by French dignitaries and received the French Medal of Honor. He noted
Tom Kaiser, Chair of the Veterans Advisory Commission, has been pursuing these
medals for years and as a result, more veterans in Palm Beach County received this
award than throughout the country. He also pointed out four or five of the veterans
landed on the Omaha and /or Utah beaches during D -Day. He commented he attended
Taste of Boynton last week.
Mayor Taylor attended the Taste of Boynton. He mentioned the Chamber of Commerce
always does a great job and the food was great. About 400 people attended and many
restaurants participated.
3. ANNOUNCEMENTS, COMMUNITY & SPECIAL EVENTS & PRESENTATIONS
A. Announcement of the 4th of July Festivities at Intracoastal Park.
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Wally Majors, Recreation and Parks Director, announced they were hosting the July
4 fireworks event which will have two new bands: the New Horizons Band, playing
jazz, rhythm and blues, and the Big Night Out Band having a Latin flavor. Face
painting, rock climbing, watermelon eating contests, and many other activities will start
at 6 p.m. This year, there would be music after the fireworks to help avoid a mass
exodus after the fireworks and all were invited to attend.
B. Recognition of Boynton Beach Community High School's Valedictorian, Samuel
Rachelson, and Salutatorian, Paul Busheme.
Mayor Taylor recognized Salutatorian Paul Busheme and highlighted Mr. Busheme
earned a 3.8 GPA. He was a graduate of the Embry Riddle Aeronautical Space
Academy and was certified to work on airplanes. He recognized his accomplishments
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including his work on the school stage crew, yearbook and conducting all school
announcements. He will attend the University of Florida for Mechanics and Physics.
Mr. Busheme was presented with a plaque acknowledging him as the student with the
second highest ranking among his graduating class.
Mayor Taylor read Samuel Rachelson's award as High School Valedictorian in his
absence. Mr. Rachelson obtained a 4.82 honor roll average and was dual enrolled in
Palm Beach State College, earning 54 college credits. His volunteerism encompassed
the Palm Beach County Library system and the school theater in all stage activities. He
was a member of the bowling and video games teams. He planned to attend Embry
Riddle Aeronautical University to obtain a Master's Degree in mechanical and cyber
engineering within the next three years. The City Commission and attendees
applauded his accomplishments.
4. PUBLIC AUDIENCE
INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTE PRESENTATIONS (at the
discretion of the Chair, this 3 minute allowance may need to be adjusted
depending on the level of business coming before the City Commission)
Mayor Taylor opened the public audience
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David Katz, 67 Midwood Lane, commented at the Strategic Planning meeting, action
items included the temporary storage of landscape material which came about as the
result of a Code Compliance matter. Mr. Mignano, of Mignano's Landscaping, has been
conducting his business in the City for over 30 years. Storage takes place on his
property until the debris is moved to a cooperative in Pahokee. If the City worked on
the Code to permit the use, Mr. Mignano offered the City could use his site for their
landscaping debris, saving the City thousands by not having to pay to take it to the
Lantana Transfer Station. Should an agreement not be worked out, 10 to 12 Mignano
employees that live in Boynton Beach will be laid off.
Mr. Katz also advised there was discussion earlier in the day regarding food trucks. He
thought if that section of the Code could be revisited, the Mignano issue could be
revisited and easily changed. Commissioner Merker requested the address of the
Mignano property so he could visit the premises and received the details for the fenced
in M -1 property that abutted the railroad tracks. Every four to five weeks, 10 or 12
trucks haul the inert material to the Pahokee cooperative. Mr. Katz opined if the City
would agree to the offer, perhaps it would be hauled every two weeks.
Mayor Taylor advised the City was aware of the matter and would direct staff tomorrow
whether or not to address the Code. Commissioner McCray attended the Code hearing
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and thought Mr. Mignano was falsely accused and did not get a fair deal. An individual
wrote to State Representative Bobby Powell, indicating their parents' home abuts the
subject property and there were issues with vermin. He hoped something could be put
in place and thought it was a shame individuals would be laid off.
Suzanne Ross, Schoolhouse Children's Museum, announced May membership
increased significantly due to their advertising efforts and word of mouth. They almost
reached capacity earlier in the day, which would result in a queue to enter the building.
June was very busy. Summer programs offered were: Little Hands, Big Art; Kids Cook,
S.T.E.A.M. (Science, Technology, Engineering, Art and Math) Motion in the Ocean;
Zumba for Children; and Fantastic Voyages started this week. On Saturday, kids and
dads will celebrate Father's Day by creating and making water rockets. They added
mobile exhibits to enhance visitor experiences that will be used at certain times and
facilitated with a Museum staff member. She noted they are interactive and ideal for
families with older and younger children to do together. Tickets for the 4 of July at
Intracoastal Park Clubhouse are on sale at the Museum. The price was $30 in advance
and $40 at the door.
The Museum was participating in the Library Adventure Museum Pass with the County
Library system and the Blue Star program which provides for free Museum admission
for active military members and their families. They are participating in a cooperative
marketing effort with the Association of Children's Museums and Howard Johnson
Hotels. The program offers museum admission with a stay at Howard Johnson's. They
have not yet received any vouchers; however, exposure for the Schoolhouse Children's
Museum in Boynton Beach was extremely significant.
Cindy Rovovich, Women's Circle, 912 SE 4 Street, thanked the City Commission
for being part of the Grand Ribbon Cutting and for their help through the years. She
advised the new parking lot helps the Women's Circle to grow and expand their
activities. Mayor Taylor thanked the Women's Circle for all they do.
Richard Gonzales, 6 Danbe Place, explained he is a Boynton Beach resident and the
General Manager of First Transit, owner of Greyhound with his office in Boynton Beach.
First Transit opened an office a few months ago and employs about 150 people, mostly
residents. He lived and worked in other municipalities and complimented Boynton
Beach as being one of the best run cities he has resided in. He commented the parks,
events and beaches are exemplary and it is pleasure to work and live in the City.
Community outreach is important to First Transit and he left his contact information if
there was a transit issue with residents or if they need transportation support.
Commissioner McCray appreciated Mr. Gonzales' comments, and it was explained the
City has a contract with Palm Beach County for para- transit services for the elderly and
disabled. Mayor Taylor thanked him and welcomed him to the City.
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Mary Lou Guzman, 19 Miller Drive, was concerned about the Publix renovations on
Congress Avenue. The handicapped parking was centered in front of the entrance of
Publix and they deleted handicap access spots at other store entrances on the strip
center. She inquired who could address this issue. Mayor Taylor requested she provide
her contact information and Development staff would contact her.
Ray Whitely, 5503 Wishing Star Lane, Greenacres, thanked the City Commission for
attending the Children's Oasis Banquet on May 30 He also thanked them for
connecting with their vision to enable today's youth to become tomorrow's leaders. He
advised three scholarships were awarded for $1,500, $1,000 and $500. Mr. Whitely
explained they have identified the East Boynton Wildcat organization to serve in the
next two years. There are nearly close to 400 people in the organization and their goal
was to provide about $25,000 in support over the next few years. He thanked all and the
Mayor for their support. Mayor Taylor thought the event was great and commended him
and the organization for their work with the youth.
No one coming forward, Mayor Taylor closed Public Audience.
5. ADMINISTRATIVE
A. Appoint eligible members of the community to serve in vacant positions on
City advisory boards.
The following Regular (Reg) and Alternate (Alt) Student (Stu) and Nonvoting Stu (NN
Stu) openings exist:
Building Board of Adjustments and Appeals: 1 Alt
Education and Youth Advisory Board: 1 NN Stu
Golf Course Advisory Committee: 1 Reg and1 Alt
Historic Resource Preservation Board: 1 Alt
Library Board: 1 Alt
Planning and Development Board: 1 Alt
Recreation and Parks Board: 1 Alt
Senior Advisory Board: 1 Reg and 2 Alts
Motion
Commissioner McCray moved to table his appointment at this time.
Motion
Commissioner Fitzpatrick moved to appoint Kevin Fisher as an alternate to the Planning
and Development Board. Vice Mayor Casello seconded the motion that passed 3 -2
(Commissioners McCray and Merker dissenting.)
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6. CONSENT AGENDA
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Matters in this section of the Agenda are proposed and recommended by the City
Manager for "Consent Agenda" approval of the action indicated in each item, with
all of the accompanying material to become a part of the Public Record and
subject to staff comments
Commissioner Merker moved to approve the Consent Agenda less items pulled.
Commissioner McCray seconded the motion that unanimously passed.
A. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -066 - Approve and authorize signing of an
Agreement for Water Service outside the City limits with G4A2, LLC for property
at 1084 Ridge Road, Lantana, FL 33462.
B. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -067 - Approve and authorize signing of an
Agreement for Water Service outside the City limits with Beauly LLC for the
property at 3917 Barkis Avenue, Boynton Beach, FL.
C. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -068- Approve and authorize signing of an
Agreement for Water Service outside the City limits with Marie L. Fervil for the
property at 1220 Alto Road, Lantana, FL 33462.
D. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -069 - Approve and authorize signing of an
Agreement for Water Service outside the City limits with Alireza Barzroodipour
for the property at 1090 Ridge Road, Lantana, FL 33462.
E. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -070 - Approve and authorize signing of an
Agreement for Water Service outside the City limits with Debra Fusco for the
property at 1237 Peak Road, Lantana, FL 33462.
F. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -071 - Approve the purchase of 29 sets of
Turn Out Gear from Fisher Scientific by utilizing Orange County, FL Term
Contract No. Y12 -1086F that expires September 21, 2015. The estimated
purchase is $53,000 and Orange County, FL complied with Public Bid
requirements that satisfies the City of Boynton Beach Public Bid requirements.
Mayor Taylor read Proposed Resolution R15 -071.
Vice Mayor Casello inquired how many sets of bunkers were cycled in and out each
year. Ray Carter, Fire Chief explained they try to cycle one -third to one - quarter of their
sets of gear each year, but with the economic downturn, they only replaced one -fifth a
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year and they were trying to catch up. He advised the maximum life span was 10 years,
but they do not always last that long contingent on the way they are used, the
environment they are in and they constantly have to wash them due to regulations
regarding exposure issues. He thought five to eight years was typical and noted the
crew was required to have two sets of gear.
Vice Chair Casello inquired why they did not piggyback with Palm Beach County and
learned their gear was slightly different. They established a standard after a study of
brands and styles of gear was conducted. They wrote the specifications they needed
and Orange County used the same and received a better price than the City so they
piggybacked on the Orange County contract.
Motion
Commissioner Merker moved to approve Proposed Resolution No. R15 -071.
Commissioner Fitzpatrick seconded the motion that unanimously passed.
G. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -072- Approve and authorize the City
Manager to execute a contract with B &B Underground Contractors, Inc. for the
Reclaimed Water Main Extension to High Point project, Bid No. 047 -2821-
15 /KTR in the amount of $89,030 plus a 10% contingency of $8,903, if needed,
for staff approval of change orders for unforeseen conditions for a total
expenditure of $97,933.
H. Accept the written report to the Commission for purchases over $10,000 for the
month of May 2015.
I. Approve the minutes from the Regular City Commission meeting held on June 2,
2015.
J. Approve cancellation of Bid #048 - 2210- 15 /JMA "Fire Rescue Station No. 1 - Minor
Renovation" that was opened on May 19, 2015.
Vice Mayor Casello inquired what minor repairs were needed for $133,000. Chief Carter
responded he would not classify the renovations as minor. They planned to reconfigure
the bay doors and the bay configuration. Fire Station No. 1 was the City's oldest fire
station and the doors do not conform to hurricane standards. Years ago, fire trucks
were more narrow, but now, they only have a one to two inch clearance so scratches
and scrapes occur. Reconfiguration would solve those issues.
Vice Mayor Casello inquired if the $133,000 that was budgeted would stay in the Capital
Fund balance for other projects and if the funds could be used to pay for the bunker
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gear. Lori LaVerriere, City Manager, explained bunker gear was an operational
expense and she and Chief Carter worked out a replacement plan.
Motion
Commissioner Merker moved to approve. Commissioner Fitzpatrick seconded the
motion.
Commissioner McCray asked if the doors were a foreseeable problem as it pertained to
hurricanes. Chief Carter responded they were not because a hurricane was not
currently identified. If one was, it could cause a problem with their response plan
because doors can blow on top of the apparatus and damage it. If a significant storm
was identified, they would move the equipment to another location.
The motion unanimously passed.
7. BIDS AND PURCHASES OVER $100,000
A. PROPOSED RESOLUTION NO. R15 -073 - Approve award of the bid for a "Two
Year Term for the Supply of Injection Molded Mobile Refuse Containers and
Parts for the Automated Garbage Collection Program ", Bid No. 048 -2510-
15 /JMA, to Rehrig Pacific Company of Orlando, FL. Purchases will be made on
an "AS NEEDED" basis, the annual anticipated expenditure is $100,000.
Mayor Taylor read Proposed Resolution R15 -073.
Motion
Commissioner Merker moved to approve Proposed Resolution R15 -073. Vice Mayor
Casello seconded the motion.
Commissioner McCray inquired how many containers were needed. Jeff Livergood,
Public Works and Engineering Director, responded it could be 1,000 to 1,200. There
were varying sizes and prices. He advised they were still replacing containers
implemented in the 1990s. Commissioner McCray requested further information on the
sizes. Mr. Livergood explained they both meet the specifications for materials and size
and they can save 25 or 30 cents each. City customers are used to 60 and 90 gallon
carts. Commissioner McCray thought the life of the containers could be extended if
handled with care.
The motion unanimously passed.
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8. CODE COMPLIANCE and LEGAL SETTLEMENTS — None
9. PUBLIC HEARING
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7 P.M. OR AS SOON THEREAFTER AS THE AGENDA PERMITS
The City Commission will conduct these public hearings in its dual capacity as
Local Planning Agency and City Commission.
A. PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO. 15 -011 - SECOND READING - PUBLIC
HEARING — Approve amendments to the Comprehensive Plan Utilities Element
to include an update to the 10 -Year Water Supply Facilities Work Plan and to
policies in the Potable Water, Sanitary-Sewer and Solid Waste sub - elements.
Mayor Taylor read Proposed Ordinance No 15 -011 on second reading by title only.
Motion
Commissioner Merker moved to approve Proposed Ordinance 15 -011. Commissioner
McCray seconded the motion.
Mayor Taylor opened the Public Hearing. No one coming forward, Public Hearing was
closed.
Deputy City Clerk Pyle called the roll.
Vote
The vote was 5 -0
10. CITY MANAGER'S REPORT — None
11. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Consider the recommendation from the Recreation & Parks Advisory Board to
extend the one year trial period of one year that allows leashed dogs at Jaycee,
Intracoastal, Dewey and Boynton Lakes Park for one more year.
Commissioner McCray asked if there were any problems with the program. Wally
Majors explained the Department has received a lot of feedback from Parks
maintenance staff they had repeatedly encountered a lot of dog waste and the
equipment has come in contact with the waste in their course of maintaining the parks.
Mr. Majors received one complaint from one person about Boynton Lakes who
complained about 12 times and another complaint from a man regarding Jaycee. He
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had not personally received any public complaints. They installed a sign with contact
information if the public needed to contact the department. He and Carisse LeJeune,
Assistant City Manager, walked Intracoastal and Jaycee Parks, and he personally
walked Boynton Lakes and Dewey Park three or four times. He had not noticed waste.
Additionally, they held two events at Intracoastal Park with over 2,000 people without
incidence. Nothing had reached Mr. Majors' level, but from a staff standpoint, it was
something they had to deal with.
Commissioner Merker thought education was a component to the issue and the blame
for the waste was on the owner. He thought another year of training would help
improve the matter. Vice Mayor Casello inquired if the poo fairy was being used. It is
an emblem on the park sign to get the dog owners' attention to know how to contact the
department.
Commissioner Fitzpatrick received confirmation dog waste appears to mostly be picked
up, but when mowing, they find it. He asked if there was a way to temporarily close the
park down for a week to increase compliance. Mr. Majors explained if dealing with
responsible people, there are no problems.
Motion
Commissioner McCray moved to approve the extension for another year.
Commissioner Merker seconded the motion. Mr. Majors advised he could come back
with a recommendation from the Recreation and Parks Board again next June regarding
the matter. The motion unanimously passed.
12. NEW BUSINESS
Mayor Taylor requested a motion for 137 West Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard.
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A. Approve the release of the following land parcels as requested by the CRA:
480 East Ocean Avenue to Ocean Ridge Hospitality, LLC. 137 West Martin Luther
King, Jr. Boulevard to Neighborhood Renaissance. Lot 23, Block 1, The Frank
Weber Addition to Boynton Beach PB 9, Page 3 - PCN 08- 43- 45- 21 -25- 001 -0230
to Neighborhood Renaissance.
Mayor Taylor presented the item and requested a motion on 480 East Ocean Avenue.
Motion
Commissioner Merker so moved. Commissioner McCray seconded the motion that
unanimously passed.
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Motion
Commissioner Merker so moved. Commissioner McCray seconded the motion.
Commissioner Fitzpatrick commented he did not believe the City should be in the
single - family home business, and thought there should be townhouses.
The motion passed 3 -2, (Vice Mayor Casello and Commissioner Fitzpatrick dissenting.)
Commissioner McCray inquired how much would be spent for the transfer of the
property. Vivian Brooks, Executive Director, responded they assumed, for the 137 West
Martin Luther King, Jr. property, it was $10 because that was the City's price used for
the for Model Block for the Community Development Corporation.
Mayor Taylor requested a motion for Lot 23, Block 1, Frank Weber Addition.
Motion
Commissioner Merker so moved. Commissioner McCray seconded the motion that
passed 3 -2, (Vice Mayor Casello and Commissioner Fitzpatrick dissenting.)
A. PROPOSED ORDINANCE NO. 15 -015 - SECOND READING - PUBLIC
HEARING — Approve Ordinance amending Part II, Chapter 13, Section 13 -4
Classification and Fee Schedule; Chapter 13, Section 13 -20 Special Events; Part
III LDR Chapter 1 General Administration, Article II Definitions; Chapter 4 Site
Development Standards Article IV Sign Standards; Part II Chapter 3 Alcoholic
Beverages
Mayor Taylor read Proposed Ordinance 15 -015 on second reading by title only.
Motion
Commissioner McCray moved to approve. Commissioner Merker seconded the motion.
Mayor Taylor opened the Public Hearing. No one came forward.
Deputy City Clerk Pyle called roll.
Vote
The vote was 5 -0.
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Assistant City Attorney Shana Bridgeman explained the City Commission instructed
Legal staff to provide a termination notice of the ATS contract. The contract requires a
45 -day period to cure the defects specified in their letter. ATS was requesting an
additional 45 days, while they work with City Legal Counsel to agree on how to modify
the contract and the Business Rules Questionnaire (BRQ). ATS has been cooperative
and there have been various conferences with them. The recommendation was for the
City Commission to agree to the extension.
Vice Mayor Casello received clarification the 45 -day extension would provide time to
complete the revisions and modifications to the contract between the City and ATS and
the BRQ which governs the relationship between the parties. Legal staff would consult
with the City Commission regarding any proposed modifications. The City is within its
legal rights to terminate the contract, but ATS would have a strong argument they were
working on the contract and the City was not making a good faith effort to reach
agreement or resolution.
Attorney Bridgeman clarified the remedy had to include both parties. ATS proposed
solutions which the City had to evaluate and discuss with the Commission and 45 days
may or may not be enough time to resolve the issue as it depended on what the issue
and remedy was. ATS was reimbursing the City its legal costs to appeal the court's
decision. She advised they were handling the appeal and ATS and the City were both
co- defendants in a class- action lawsuit. She explained if an agreement was reached
regarding the contract and BRQ revisions, the cameras could be turned on. The goal
was to make those revisions in line with the parameters the Courts want to see in the
cities' programs. The contract would officially terminate on May 20, 2016.
Commissioner Merker commented the City does not need another lawsuit or contract
issues and there was good faith.
Commissioner McCray asked how long the appeal process would take and learned it
could be up to a year. Commissioner McCray agreed with Commissioner Merker, but
only favored another 45 -day extension. The City's cost per camera was $4,250. He
asked if ATS realized the City would not be so enthusiastic about getting out of the
contract if the City did not have to still pay them. Attorney Bridgeman explained that
was something the City would bring to them as part of an amendment of the contract. A
discount, payment deferral or reimbursement would be negotiated due the lack of
income.
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Motion
Commissioner Merker moved to give another 45 days. Commissioner Fitzpatrick
seconded the motion that passed 4 -1, (Commissioner McCray dissenting.)
14. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
A. Budget Workshops dates /times for FY 15/16 Operating and Capital Budget to
take place in City
Library Program Room on the following dates:
Monday July 20, 2015 2:00 p.m.
Tuesday July 21, 2015 10:00 a.m.
Wednesday July 22, 2015 2:00 p.m. (if needed)
B. Appointment of Voting Delegate and authorize Commissioner(s) to travel to
Orlando for FLC Annual Conference, August 13 -15, 2015 - (July 7, 2015)
Vice Chair Casello requested an agenda item regarding model airplanes and drones in
City parks be put on the next month's agenda. He thought it was permitted, but learned
there was a conflicting Ordinance on the books. He thought discussion was warranted.
Commissioner McCray received confirmation the appointment to attend the annual
conference in Orlando would be addressed on July 7, 2015.
15. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, Mayor Taylor properly adjourned the
meeting at 7:26 p.m. (Continued on next page.)
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Ja yet M. Prainito, MMC
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Michael M. Fitzpatrick, Comm' /loner