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Minutes 02-08-57MI~FTES OF MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 8~ 19~? TO DISCUSS SPECIAL ASSESS- MENTS FOR TEE PAVING OF STREETS IN LAUREL MILLS. Time: 2:30 P. N. Place: City Hall, Boynton Beach~ Florida. Present: m~L. 0yet Mayor M. H. Partin~ Councilman Stanley Weaver~ Co~ucil- Councilman Donald Rehburg, Councilman Harvey of Public Works Zell Tay~or~ amd six Hills. his name He requested thst stated that paving each speaker give Councilman Weaver: Last ~r we advertised the whole thing. T~s year we enomgh money to do the whole thing. O~r advertisement was based on that fac%. We want te pave N. W. Second Street from N.-W. Seventh Avenue and not do .s~ny in that That subdivi: were sell fast,er if we agreed with Street so feet said of t · is available. This would give everyone some good street to travel over. in here several years ago due Beach, Lets no water or streets. They would The street is necessary. wo~Id advertise N, W. Seventh ~ueh. Some pe~ple~own 30 Others will but~ we were thinking ~ss~o the Boynton Canal. uate., ~e for access to their homes and schools. for that distance and wanted have enough basis. It will practically a $1,~O a square yard~ last one we had,'~ $1.22, ~ is~ no profit to the City. Normally it hss people have beensatmsfied.' It foot lot. -2 - Mr. Bill Landis: Everybody,s house on that street, with the exception of Mr. Weeks, will be out of feet. Everyone built in accordance with the Code. It will make our property to~ close to the road~ Councilman Weaver: You will still have the difference between eleven feet a~d twenty-five~ fourteen more feet from the right of way until such time as they have sidewalks. Mr. Zell Taylor: Would not be any closer to the road. Councilman Oyer: A mistake was made some time ago when the subdivision was granted ~s we have a fifty'foot right of way on future homes. Landis: Doyou know how~many vacant lots on that property? There are three. ~t~citma~ Weaver: The City can go ahead and pave on thirty feet, ~i$ is not too good.for the future. ~lr. Landis: They should have looked into the future a year ago. You have to arrive at something a person knows about. Councilman Chadwell: When you built, didn't we have a fifty foot right of way? Mr. Landis: You do not have it now. They should have said something about it then. A fifty foot right of way wa~decided when they accepted this land. They sltoped.up, and we have to.suffer. Why can't it be done under the present situation? We were informed it could not be, and the road would not be kept up until it was. Councilman Weaver: We are trying to correct a mistake made ten years ago. Mr. Landis: You should realize the spot we are in. Coun¢ilm~u Weaver: We realize it. Mr. Landis: There is a street west of us blocked off by one lot that could service Laurel Hills. Ers. Tomlins0n: The last addition was made in 1951. What was wrong then? Councilman Oyer: They have fifty feet. All of them do except the addition you are in. Mr. Landis: Even the acceptance of the last addition, before they were supposed to be accepted~ they were supposed to have pavement. Mr. Taylor: Those streets were accepted as is and kept in that condition. Mr. Landis: They are not kept in that way. A Man: Mr. Partin said two years ago something should be done~ but nothing was ever done. Mayor Partin: That was nothing but conversation. Councilman Chadwell: I am in fevor of building Seventh Street now. I pave it. Mr. Landis.: You will hear no objections if yom pave it as is. Oo~mcilman Weaver: Someday the City may condemn it and pay you for the right of wey. MrS. Tomlinson: If I wanted to sit on the sidewalk~ I wou~ld have come to Mig~h~ay~l a~d sit there. We did not know when we came here. We had t'et~ers we~were not even accepted in the City, and were not eligible for anything. Mayor Partin: How long ago has this been? Nrs. Temlimson: 1952. There is a letter on file in your office to Mr~ Schell and H. P. Bankert. A mistake has been made, and the people feel that they should net be made to pay for someone else's mistake. All the people of oar section want it to be nice. We were tol& the road was not dedicated long after the section was taken over by the City. $~at we give has value, so it would cost us more. A Man: You will pave the road as it is now? Mayor Psrtin: It is the only thing we can do end will do. We will make a decision at.the next Regular Meeting. OF S, 19 0. O CUSS S ECZA Time: 1:30 P. E. Place: City Hall, Boynton Beach~ Florida. Present: Stanley Weaver A. The meeting the pmrpose give his Mr..Earl had been Ocean Avenue back from t~is abutting to order Council- Harvey and Avenue. ~ who stated that was t the people °npavtng He requested' that each spe~aker r eex)rds. Avenue said he : on go I year. of the new men md state that the BeyntonNews published on Thursday, February 9, for the same purpose. On later~ apetition w~s made which short time a~fte~ Feb~aary 13, at Regular petitm n was presented~ and views were did not ~ant to go through with in the records and minutes; The · Fourth Streets. It was then Mr, Stanley Weaver was this thing up. He was ~ one-half'mile away. the They was a the so~ ~S too ~ .ers ~etition was block. are very ag% th~ road ~hen. There is It is in the The Police The ~ excee~ )ettercondi~ion than but this ,aVing is~necessaryo -2 - I'4r, Morser also said he thought the Councilmen were conscientious when running for election. He said the new Councilm~n were elected by the citizens to face the problems with integrity~ honesty~ and sincerity. They must be h~nest an~sincere in thei~ thlnki~ as the Miami Daily Ne~S, Wednesday, January 30, 1957 written by JaCk W. Roberts. (Parts of that article are quoted below:) "The City has noright 'suit i~volved.) weremerelyl for paving of streets." $geciaI code held that the [ could not be Charged to lev~ assessmentS..-~' Partin still wit~the Mmami Norser for h the ious w~e~ He said was not familiar if he was an AttorneY~ he he will not do anything out governed by the~City Attorney. to statement since he was Mayor a series of petitions and the advert ~ise. ~str~ets paved. In Deadvertising, in case the peopleon Ocean Avenue give.them an opportunity to have it done. much less than the other one. Laurel Hills has ~ will bedone when a~rangements are made. micro,and, they have a good price. 2his of hav~ a hearing ~nd getting the people's aver s~idhe would be in favor of making the decision for Ocean AvenUe. Mr. Co E. Wrytzen, ~11 0ce~nAvenue, raised the following question: What is your plan? Where are ~you going to resurface? tt at Third Street and carry clear about SeventY, Street. Mr. W~ytzen: Will you fill in holes? Councilman Wea~er: Contract price, calls for filling in holes. Wrytzen: The basic road bed is better between Third and Fourth than frjm Fourth on. -3- Mr. Zell Taylor: From Third to Fourth, there would be an uneven surfaee~ and it will take more work to fill that in than from Fourth Cou$¢~man Weaver: ~r. Chadwell, Stree~ Commissioner, is going to look at it for the establishment of dr~ wells. The City must ~hare the expense of dry wells, etc. -- Mr. Wrytzen: What was the difference in bids? Mr.-~aYler: The bid for hot mix was 90¢ per square yard, last one was 80¢~ Er. Chadwell: The width of the street might be dlst~rbtmg you on the cost. We feel the citizens sh¢~zld pay their half of the width, eleven feet out~ and theCity~wlll pay the .center portion. Mr. Oyer: The reason the paying for 22 feet of ments. are objecting was that they were ~was not p~o rat~ on last assess- Mr. Weaver: No, it wasn't. Mr. Partin: How wide is the~paved part of Ocean Avenue? Mr. Taylor: Fifty feet. Mr. Chadwell: The actual p~v~g is about_thirty feet. Mr, Wrytzen: ~s ~here anything in the City Ordinance that has to do with this poin o 2oads? M~r. Chadwell: The City can install storm s~wers, sidewalks, curbs, and chsrge to adjacent property owners taxes on everything from building to repairs. Mr. Wrytzen: Ocean Avenue is a main~track. Seems ~ke ~he town should take it. It is aright of way to the railroad and town~ and gets mere trsffic. Nr. Chadwell: That is why we are making the expenses divided three ways~ Mr. Oyer: If it was another street, you could be charged for eleven feet _hat m~ why the City~.~W~%~li~Da~ for~the center oart. M~. Wrytzen: But this leaves us property owners in the dark as to the cost. Er. Taylor: 80¢ .a square yard if they agree. Mr. Wrytzen: Last year it was talkLug different terms. Does anybearing on maintenance Of streets? before~ thingsshould be a lot easier. feet. Now you are in the taxes have were getting b~ Councilman Weaver: Do you realize the rapid gro~ch of the City re- quires more service? We bought new garbage trucks. Hro Wrytzen: Er. thing The g~rbage tax wes put on a year ago. is that ~the State and Federal ion o~ t~xeS the Cities hsd that we , not one publicity. Er. Wrytzen. Apparently ml~e went~ up to eliminate homesteed. Counci south ~t of ~ area. I believe the ~lli. eaus one : Mr. Wrytzen: With all the increases inour taxes~ what will the money go for? C~uncilman Weever: Some will go for roads. Mr. Wrytzen: Whose roads? Who is going to get some free? Councilma~ Weaver: What we have tried to do in the last four years, is put~slag~ topping on,he roadsatino cost to the owners to give a ~arder:surface~ using money we get from taxes. We have so many streets tha~ were allowed to go to pot that we do not have enough money to do it all. Other subdivisions needing ro~ds are Laurel Hills~ McDonald Park~ N. E. Seventh to Tenth Avenue~ and The Lawns. Mr. Wrytzen: Is it up to the City to build new roads for real estate brokers? older: Streets, S.~E., We do are area Lot owners in most of the First, Second and Third are asking us to build roads. Councilman 0yet!: The City still, has to go ahead to do it. You have three years to pay. Mr. Wrytzen: Last time it was ninety days plus 8 per cent interest. Councilm~n Weaver: You would be surprised. A lot of people say they Will play c~ah~ then they se~ they will wait because eight per cen~ does ~t a~ou~t to ~hat much. Er. Wrytzen: Did you ever arrive at the new price? Er. Taylor: Approximately $1~O0 a foot. Fifty feet would be $50.00. ~o~ucilman Weaver: We do not want yo.u to think we are trying to force it. We feel if we are going to take it from Fourth on~ we should Eot your block. We can go over your heads, but do not want to. ~Lr. ~ytzen: I wanted to get your side of the story. ~ou Avenue is ~ , but you Connc~n see how th~ ~ be feeder for highway. Ocean Avenue will dead end there? ~rili build an overpass. I do not Er. Wrytzen: Should this road be built between Third an~ Fourth, can it be assumed that drains will be put in prior to building? Councilman Weaver: Yes. Councilman Chadwell: I presume they will be done. Nr. Taylor: If you want it, it can be do~e. We would either have to put in a pumping station or dry well with a drain which would soak the water away in a couple hours. Councilman Weaver: A dry well and drains will take care of a lot of water. Mr. Wrytzen: I will be 100% against spending any money ~1 ess something is done to drain the water. Eayor Parttn: It is the only way I know. We cannot put sewers and ru~.out to the canal because that would be a big expense. Dry wells Would be the best and-cheapest solmtlon. One Woman: How are the dry wells? -AnotherWoman: Are you going to keep them clean? Near ~lton's house~ it is terrible. Councilman Weaver: It does not stand there like t~ used to. ~ayor ~artin: Any other questions? -6- Councilman Weaver: Nust make s decision today. force anything on the citizens. We would like we cam make a decision. We do not want to a shew of hands so A Wom~n: Ask for a show of hands. Er. Wrytzen: One dry well will not be adequate. Mayor Partin and Er. Chadwell: Three or four. Weaver: They said six the last time. Mr. Wrytzen: Offhand~ I th~nk it should take at least four. Mr, Taylor time. take as m as much as you discussed last and would mot has nothing to do with it~ Couneilman Weaver: HOw ma~y are opposed? Mr. Earl J. Norser, ~ her e -who OceanAvenue: A lot of people are not i~o~s. Coun¢ilm~n Weaver: Oonld you and Mr, Demler take it on yourselves to find out? Er. Demler: largest amount of~ any money out to maintain the that petition b0ected. I have the find it. I do not feel like paying Er. Morser: Let the ~ople who are here and have charged their minds say SO. Mr, Demler: There was only one objector to the first petitio~ that everyone signed. Er. Wrytzen: I signed basically to come here and find out the other side of the story. If it makes sense~ I am willing to go along with it~ and believe the others will feel the same way. Councilman Oyer: That is the way I feel. Last year, by the City accepting the responsibility of the drain Eelds~ they agreed. We talked to as manyindividuals as we could. Most people you explain it to feel the road should be put in. Coun¢Ilman We~ver: Wait until the next Regular Meeting~ this coming Monday night to make the decision. It will days to decide. a week from give you ten Mr! ~grser: ~ It ~ay be possible, and if Er. Demler is agreeable, to a.~.~n? peop±?.wnose n~mes are on the ~etition if they changed their mmnas ~o pu~ m~ on the petition. It will probably only be 92% instead of Mayor Partin: How many property owners sro in that block? A Woman: 16 or 18. Councilman Oyer: I~ is really two blocks. Councilma~ Chadwelt: Say ~e took the taxpayers money and put in your read. Other people Will be taXed to pay for yo~ roa~. Mr. Wrytzen: It would be the same thing that is done. Councilman Oyer: All th~etstreets that have been built were done on an ass'essment basis. Mr. Wrytzen: I have only been here two Years. Where we come from~ once it. ~ t.he. street was paved,, but the City was to keep up. Immediately we are confronted with this. Then with the increase in taxes, it gives us another mental block. Councilman Chadwell: The City is growing, and it takes a lot of money to run it. Mayor Partin: Let this go by. Some of you get down here at the R~gUlar Co~_ncil Meeting night, and we will make a d.ecisi6n. Thank ysu for coming down. Come back when you feel like it. One Woman: What street are you going to pave in Laurel Hills? Councilman Oyer: That will be scheduled next time. Mr. Wrytzen: If the majority is for it, you will pave itS if not~ you won' t. Councilman Weaver: If 51% are against it, we won't. If 5t% are for it ~ we will.