Minutes 09-17-90MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HELD
IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL~ BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA,
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1990 AT 8:00 P.M.
PRESENT
Maurice Rosenstock, Chairman
Jose' Aguila
Nathan Collins
Cynthia Greenhouse
Murray Howard
Daniel E. Richter
David Beasley, Alternate
(Voting)
ABSENT
Jim Golden, Interim
Planning Director
Tambri Eeyden,
Assistant City Planner
Jim Cherof, City Attorney
Gary Lehnertz, Vice Chairman
Chairman Rosenstock called the meeting to order at
8:15 P.M. This meeting was delayed because of a Community
Appearance Board meeting held immediately prior. Following
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, Chairman Rosenstock
acknowledged the presence in the audience of Vice Mayor Lee
Wische, Commissioner Arline Weiner, Scott Miller, City
Manager and former Mayor Carl Zimmerman.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Mr. Richter moved to approve the agenda as proposed,
seconded by Mr. Collins. The motion carried 7-0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approval of the regular meeting Minutes will take place at
the next regular meeting of the Board.
COMMUNICATIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
None.
OLD BUSINESS
A. SUBDIVISIONS
PRELIMINARY PLAT (Postponed on September 11, 1990)
Project Name:
Agent:
Owner:
Location:
Woolbright Place Plat No. 1
Stanley Consultants
Tradewinds Development Corp.
North of Woolbright Road, between the
L.W.D.D. E-4 Canal and the Seaboard
Railroad riqht-of-way
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Description:
Request for approval of the common ele-
ment landscape plan, construction
drawings and preliminary plat which pro-
vide for the construction of infrastruc-
ture improvements to serve a previously
approved Planned Unit Development.
Jim Golden, Interim Planning Director pointed out revised
comments had been provided the Board based on TRB review.
Revised memorandums had been received from Engineering,
Utilities, Police, Planning and the City Forester. Two
departments had not revised their comments, The Building
Dept.'s comments had been addressed, therefore their memo
had been deleted. The Recreation & Parks memorandum
remained the same.
A proposed Agreement addressing the City park site had been
distributed prior to the meeting. Several Board members
were uncomfortable with the prospect of reviewing an impor-
tant 6 page legal Agreement when it had just been distri-
butedo
Attorney Martin Perry was asked if he agreed with the
staff comments. Attorney Perry indicated he was agreeable
to all staff comments with the exception of two or three.
Relative to the first area of disagreement, Attorney Perry
explained the applicant objected to City staff's recommen-
da.t~on that guardrails be placed along the entire length of
the roadway. Attorney Perry stated the understanding
reached at the recent TRB meeting in connection with the
guardrail was that the applicant would be governed by what-
ever the appropriate technical data required. The City
reserved the right to make a recommendation, notwithstanding
the technical data. Attorney Perry remarked the technical
data showed they were providing guardrails in areas where it
clearly was required. There was a question as to whether or
not the guardrail was required the entire length. Attorney
Pe~ry stated tke governing data indicated the minimum width
requirement to the beginning of the slope from the edge of
the pavement was 50'. If you have 50' or exceed it,
gua~dr~ils ane not required by the technical data. Attorney
Per~y indicated they have 53' and feel that is adequate to
meet the Code requirements.
The second area Of disagreement dealt with the industrial
access road.: kttorney Perry stated the applicant maintained
the original Agreement between Tradewinds and the City in
October, 1986, only required them to set aside the right-of-
way for the road. Staff maintained the City had to make a
finding. If the City were to find the applicant is not
legally obligated to build the road, then the applicant
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would have to apply for a variance to the Subdivision
Regulations. Attorney Perry did not feel they were obli-
gated to build the road and indicated he would pursue some
form of determination by the Court. In the interim, he
stated the applicant would post a bond for the cost of
building the road, at grade, to the property line, without
consideration of any type of railroad crossing. He noted
the applicant had no idea if, when or what type of railroad
crossing there would be.
Attorney Perry referred to Mr. Winchester's attorney
believing Tradewinds is required to build the road. Mr.
Winchester was prepared to go to Court if the City decided
Tradewinds was not obligated. In view of the circumstances,
Attorney Perry thought the easy solution if it ended up
going to Court, was to have the two parties involved, other
than the governing body, agree that whoever is the pre-
vailing party is entitled to recover costs and attorney
fe~s. Attorney Perry further explained the history of the
access road issue.
AttOrney Perry pointed out the Comprehensive Plan amendment
application filed to place the industrial access road where
it is was filed by Elsie Winchester on property that belongs
to Tradewinds. Attorney Perry remarked in order to get this
railroad crossing in, the other crossing would need to be
closed. He believed the crossing would really serve no one
but Elsie Winchester. It would not benefit Tradewinds in
any way. Attorney Perry didn't feel it was ever intended
that Tradewinds build the road but rather only set the
right-of-way aside. There may be legal requirements that
say Tradewinds has to request a variance. Attorney Perry
indicated that could be done before final plat approval. If
necessary, they were prepared to do that.
The third area of concern had to do with the park. Attorney
Perry had prepared the document which was before the Board
and had faxed it to Attorney ~nerof. Attorney Perry
remarked how the realignment of S.W. 8th Street had impacted
the park area. He explained the contents of the proposed
A~reement. The Agreement was that Tradewinds would dedicate
the most southerly 3.5 acres of land to the City as a park.
There was a requirement that Tradewinds come up with another
one acre. The discussion centered around Tradewinds doing
public improvements of a value equivalent to the value of
one acre of PUD park land. This led into contemplation of
space for the Dick Webber Child Abuse Center and 400 sq. ft.
for restrooms or a meeting room for City residents' use.
Attorney Perry didn't feel the Agreement was complex in any
way.
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Attorney Perry reiterated Tradewinds would give the 3.5
acres and file an application for commercial zoning on the
front two acres. If approved, Tradewinds would take the
remaining ½ acre that lies in between and construct the Dick
Webber facility and the 400 sq. ft. of other facilities. If
not approved, Tradewinds would get the benefit of the whole
six acres density wise. The remaining 2~ acres would be
available for Tradewinds then for density. Tradewinds would
agree to construct public facilities equivalent to the value
of one acre of residential land. The City would have to
determine what public facilities and where they should be
located.
Discussion took place with Chairman Rosenstock relative to
the fact that the value had not been arrived at yet.
Attorney Perry indicated he was agreeable to obtaining an
MAI appraisal and he was prepared to add that to the
Agreement. Attorney Perry stated the Board should make
whatever recommendation they felt was appropriate to the
City Commission.
Attorney Perry repeated he had no problem with any staff
comments with the exception of these three areas.
Chairman Rosenstock referred to the printed Agenda and asked
if the Board was within its bounds to discuss the access
road issue, as it was not specifically on the Agenda. One
member of staff had indicated to the Chairman that the Board
would have to discuss the access road because they were
discussing the preliminary plat and it was maintained that
the access road was listed on the preliminary plat with no
comment not to build it. Therefore, the member of staff
indicated they would have to build the access road.
Jim Golden stated the industrial access road was one of the~
improvements connected with the plat. They are showing
construction plans for it on the basis that when they get to
the City Commission, they would like to discuss the issue
further. The access road is shown on the approved Master
Plan.
City Attorney Cherof had produced a legal opinion indicating
the access road was shown on the documentation provided by
both Tradewinds and the Winchester people. It must be
built. A variance would be an alternative or obtaining
relief through declaratory judgement. Attorney Cherof
stated it was unlikely the City would render an opinion with
respect to the dispute between these two property owners.
Chairman Rosenstock reminded the Board members they were not
sitting as a judicial body. They were addressing compli-
cated issues. He referred to the need to handle this expe-
ditiously and to move this forward so the City Commission,
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as the governing body, could take a position on it.
Attorney Cherof thought the Chairman's understanding was
correct.
Mrs. Greenhouse referred to the applicant having submitted
construction plans for the road. Attorney Perry commented
on events that had taken place and referred to a proposal
made to the Cit~ Manager relative to this disputed issue and
trying to get through the TRB and get the Issue to the City
Commission. Subsequently, a decision was made that that
would not be sufficient. Attorney Perry stated he was
trying to avoid the unneccessary cost of engineering
drawings for the construction of the road. Over objection,
Tradewinds submitted the construction plans. They still
were maintaining they were not required to build the road.
Attorney Perry repeated if the City decided Tradewinds had
to build the road, they will post the bond and then seek
declaratory judgment.
Remarks were made about debate which had taken place at the
TRB meeting in connection with the elevation of the proposed
access road and the elevation of the railroad. Attorney
Perry stated that issue had been resolved. The plans had
been noted to reflect that the road would be cDnstructed to
an elevation acceptable to what the staff's position was.
Attorney Perry stated the road as presently shown on the
reviewed plans reflects the road would be built to an eleva-
tion which meets the tract elevation. He didn't want to get
involved in anything other than a pure road. Any type of
railroad crossing that might be required, other than a
crossing at grade, would not be bonded.
Vincent Finizio, Administrator of Engineering explained if
the road is shown on the Master Plan, they are required to
provide preliminary construction documents for the improve-
ments along with cost estimates. After the preliminary
plat, they would be obligated to provide bonds for the road,
if they wanted the plans to move forward toward final plat.
The applicant could seek relief between preliminary and
final. Mr. Finizio stated the Code indicated the applicant
should only submit plans for improvements to be constructed
within 21 months. Mr. Finizio indicated the Code required
the bond be within 110% of the value of the improvements, in
order for the applicant to have a successful final plat.
The applicant would be compelled to provide that anyway.
Chairman Rosenstock asked if there was anyone present in the
audience who wished to comment on the access road issue. As
there was no response from the audience, THE PUBLIC HEARING
WAS CLOSED.
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Attorney Cherof explained the applicant was willing to move
forward and comply with the technical requirements under the
Code, but they were doing so under protest. In response to
a question raised by one board member, Attorney ~nerof indi-
cated if the City were to end up in Court and be the pre-
vailing party, Tradewinds would be required to build the
road in accordance with the Code. The City would also seek
court costs and attorney fees.
Vice Mayor Lee Wische remarked as part of the Settlement
Agreement, Tradewinds was to get $8,000,000 as a "walk-away
figure." The City was not supposed to ever hear any more
talk of suit or anything else involved with this tract of
land.
Several board members commented they were not sure Attorney
Perry intended litigation against the City. They understood
it would be against Mr. Winchester. Chairman Rosenstock
interjected he would be seeking declaratory judgment which
would impact Mr. Winchester but would also impact the City
on whether he has to build the road or not. If the Court
felt Tradewinds doesn't have to build the road, then the
City was stuck.
Motion on Industrial Access Road
Chairman Rosenstock clarified this will move forward
assuming the Board does approve the park. If the Board does
not approve the park recommendation, it will not move for-
ward. Attorney Cherof indicated that was correct.
The City Attorney provided assistance in phrasing the
motion. Mr. Richter moved to recommend to the City
Commission that the preliminary plat be approved, subject to
the industrial access road being constructed in accordance
with all provisions of the Code of Ordinances. Mr. Aguila
seconded the motion which carried 7-0.
Mr. Finizio referred to a statement placed on the plat docu-
ment created by Attorney ~erof which discussed this matter
in relationship to approval of the final plat. He recom-
mended the motion be amended to state that this matter
should be resolved prior to final plat approval. Should
they go through the final plat process and the documents-be
legally executed and recorded, Mr. Finizio thought this
would shed a different character to the City's problem rela-
tive to public property.
Attorney Cherof didn't think that was necessary in the
motion and discussion ensued. Attorney Cherof felt the City
was covered on this issue as far as the final plat was con-
cerned as it was covered in the Code and the Stipulation
Agreement. It would be covered a third time if included in
the motion.
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The discussion moved to the topic of the guardrails and the
DOT's regulations. Attorney Perry reiterated Tradewinds was
prepared to be governed by the technical data.
Mr. Finizio made remarks about the space between the road
and the water and the fact that it would be traversed
in a matter of seconds by an automobile that had been tra-
veling 35 m.p.h. The lake is 20' deep and the City does not
have scuba ~ivers available to rescue drowning victims. Mr.
Finizio stated he had researched the PUD regulations which
did not make mention of guardrails but did make reference to
"development in a manner proposed without hazard to persons
or property, on or off the tract from probability of ...
dangers." Mr. Finizio thought deaths could result if the
guardrails were not installed. Lt. Dale Hammack also com-
mented on the fact that the distance to the lake just barely
exceeds the 50' required and the fact that the City does not
have underwater rescue equipment available. Lengthy
discussion took place.
Mrs. Greenhouse asked the City Attorney if Appendix B,
Section 8-C was enough for the City to "hang its hat on" if
this was made a requirement. Mr. Cherof thought the Section
did appear to encompass hazards of all natures and based on
that sound engineering advice, he recommended they follow
that advice and incorporate it in their recommendation to
the Commission.
After examining the drawings showing where the guardrails
are, Mr. Richter thought cars would have to make a definite
right turn to go into the lake. He thought they had covered
the area that should be covered with guardrails and that
with additional buffering, trees and shrubbery, it would
stop vehicles from traversing the more than 50' distance.
Further discussion took place with Mr. Finizio on road con-
ditions and how tragedies occur.
Mrs. Greenhouse remarked the City's Engineering Dept. had
recommended this in conjunction with the consulting engi-
neers, Gee & Jenson. She thought the City had a public
safety responsibility to require this so as not to expose
the City to liability. She thought the continuous guardrail
was clearly in the best interests of the residents of the
City.
Motions on the Guardrails
The City Attorney provided assistance in wording the motion.
Mrs. Greenhouse moved that the Planning & Zoning Board
recommend to the City CommissIon approval of the preliminary
plat, subject to the Engineering Dept. and Police Dept's
recommendations regarding the guardrail along the entire
east perimeter of the lake. Mr. Howard seconded the motion
which failed 2-5. Only Mrs. Greenhouse and Mr. Howard voted
in support of the motion.
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Chairman Rosenstock referred to other roads he had tra-
velled, where the speed limit is 55 m.p.h., the drop is
almost immediately off the road into a canal and there were
no guardrails. This developer was being asked to go above
and beyond what the DOT recommendations are.
Mr. Richter thought the Board was concerned with public
safety but you have to be reasonable and draw a line at some
point. Other opinions were expressed.
If they wished to move forward and ~ddress the guardrails
issue individually, Mr. Cherof advised they needed another
motion incorporating a final recommendation.
Mr. Richter moved to recommend to the City Commission that
the developer had complied on his drawings adequately with
the DOT requirements for this type of situation with regard
to the guardrails along the lake. He therefore should not
be required to have it the full length. Mr. Aguila seconded
the motion which carried 5~2. Mrs. Greenhouse and Mr.
Howard voted against the motion.
Relative to the park issue, Chairman Rosenstock remarked
this was a Public Hearing. He asked if there was public
input.
Mr. Eugene Casey, 116 N.W. 10th Court, Boynton Beach com-
mented on the number of homes that would be affected by this
park. He felt construction of a park in the backyard of a
retirement community would be a mistake and he explained the
negative impacts of such a park.
Mr. Golden explained the dedication of the 3½ acre park site
at this location had pretty much been established by the
City Commission as part of the Master Plan modification
approved in May, 1990. Other remarks were made by Chairman
Rosenstock about several parcels being put together at one
site. In lieu of one acre which was missing, the applicant
was to provide funds for improvements for the park site.
The Ordinance required the P&Z Board to determine a fair
market value for the land. In addition, the applicant had
agreed to obtain an MAI appraisal.
Mrs. Greenhouse asked if the City had any problem with the
land quality. Mr. Finizio responded the soil borings sub-
mitted didn't really specify that it was taken from the sub-
ject parcel. The soil borings that were provided showed
clean', silicate sand. He desired verification that the
borings were from the subject property. A printed document
was provided by Mr. Morton and Attorney Perry stated the
borings were taken from the land in question.
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Discussion took place regarding language in the Code and the
value of construction improvements to the park. Mr. Finizio
remarked on the inability of the City to exercise control
over the improvements the developer would like to build at
the park. He referred to a piece of lumber that might be
valued at $2.00 and yet a value could conceivably be set at
much more. Chairman Rosenstock asked if staff would be
willing to accept a sum certain now and the City could then
undertake the development. Mr. Finizio responded the City
would then have better control over the sub-contractors
hired.
Attorney Perry read a segment from the May 8, 1990 P&Z Board
Minutes and the Commission Minutes of May 15, 1990. He
stated the issue of providing the equivalent had already
been decided. All they were now talking about was
establishing the amount of the equivalent. He thought the
easiest way was for him and Mr. Cherof to agree on a formula
for the determination of value. Mr. Aguila thought that was
a good idea as he didn't feel comfortable trying to set the
value. That was not his particular area of expertise.
Discussion took place. Mr. Golden referred to a Planning
Dept. recommendation that the City execute a legal agreement
that specifies and translates that appraised value to speci-
fic improvements, prior to final plat approval.
One board member requested clarification. Chairman
Rosenstock explained the developer had agreed to contribute
a sum of money equal to the value of one acre. It had been
decided that instead of contributing the money, the deve-
loper would do the construction improvements to the park, in
lieu of the money. For example, if $70,000 was decided to
be the value of the one acre, the developer would do $70,000
worth of improvements. Other remarks were made,
Mr. Finizio believed any deviation from the Code of
Ordinances would require a variance. He felt they were
deviating from the land/money aspect and were putting a new
twist to the proposal that is not provided for in the Code.
Mr. Morton thought it was ludicrous that Mr. Finizio would
argue points of law when Mr. Cheroi was present.
Legal discussion ensued between Mr. Cherof and Mrs.
Greenhouse. Mr. Cherof indicated they should focus on the
Code provision that was currently applicable. He felt it
was practical and in a case where a fee in lieu of dedica-
tion was required, it provided for the Board to determine a
fair market value of the land. That determination should be
used to calculate the fee to be paid. The subdivider could
then object and obtain an MAI appraisal. At the end of that
Code section, it says alternatively the City and the sub-
divider may agree as to the fair market value. If they were
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unable to determine at this time what the fair market value
was, they could simply indicate the~ are not in a position
to do it and recommend the Commission enter into an
agreement as to the fair market value. Alternatively, they
could pick a figure "out of the hat," assess a value and
move forward. Either way would be proper.
Mrs. Greenhouse referred to the "services in lieu of monies"
aspect. She wondered if that had to be specifically
addressed. Mr. Cherof didn't think so as he didn't find any
prohibition in the Code that said the-City could not take
services in kind or anything else of value in lieu of cash.
Mrs. Greenhouse asked if the Board could "pass the buck onto
the Commission" and let the Commission worry about whether
or not they are going to take the services or not. Mr.
Cherof responded affirmatively.
Mr. Richter moved that the City Commission get an I4jkI
appraisal as well as the petitioner getting an MAI
appraisal. The two appraisals should be close enough to
determine the value for one acre. Mr. Collins seconded the
motion.
The question was raised by City Manager Miller of who would
pay for the City's MAI appraisal. He noted they sometimes
cost between $2,500 to $3,000. Mr. Collins reminded them
this was only a recommendation to the Commission.
Mrs. Greenhouse asked if the Board was dealing with the
legal Agreement which was in front of them. Mr. Cherof
stated they were not. Other remarks were made. Mr. Golden
recommended the Board not consider the Agreement as part of
the recommendation as there were concerns about some of the
language in it.
Mr. Richter chose to withdraw his motion which was on the
floor. Mr. Collins withdrew his second.
Discussion took place with Mr. Golden and Charles Frederick,
Director of Recreation & Parks as to whether $80,000 was a
reasonable figure for the property. If the developer
disagreed with the figure selected, he could get the MAI
appraisal.
Motion on Park Land Value
Mrs. Greenhouse stated she intended to make the motion and
she wished to specifically exclude the Agreement which was
handed to the Board prior to the meeting. She moved that
the Board recommend to the City Commission that the one acre
to be dedicated in lieu of land for the proposed park site
be valued at $80,000 per acre. Mr. Howard seconded the
motion which carried 7-0.
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Mr. Frederick asked how the half credit situation was being
addressed. ~e reminded the Board this whole issue was based
on a 4½ acre dedication, 3½ of which would be land and one
acre being cash. They were required to provide private
recreation facilities as a part of that half credit which
was given. Mr. Frederick asked if this was being approved
subject to his comments. It was clarified that it was.
Mrs. Greenhouse stated she wished to amend the motion to
include all staff comments including the comments by Mr.
Frederick. One person stated that would be redundant as
they had already done so earlier in the meeting by stating
all comments had been agreed to with the exception of the
three issues. Mr. Cherof recommended the Board s~mm~rize
this meeting's activity in one motion~
Motion in Summarization
Mr~ Beasley recommended approval of the preliminary plat,
subject only to the motions and recommendations made tonight
and to staff comments. Mr. Aguila seconded the motion which
carried unanimously.
At the conclusion of the meeting, Jim Golden, Interim City
Planner announced he had submitted his resignation and he
indicated how much he had enjoyed working.~ith the Board.
Chairman Rosenstock thanked Mr. Golden for his outstanding
cooperation. The Board regretted Mr. Golden's decision but
understood his desire to further his career.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no ~urther business,
adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Shannon Burkett
Recording Secretary
(Two Tapes)
the meeting properly
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