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Minutes 02-02-89MINUTES OF SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING HELD AT PRIME BANK PLAZA, 211 SOUTH FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 1989, AT 7:30 P. M. RE REVIEW OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE EXPANDED REDEVELOPMENT AREA FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PRESENT Robert Walshak, Chairman Harold Blanchette, Vice Chairman Jose' Aguila Gary Lehnertz Marilyn Huckle Carl Zimmerman Murray Howard, Alternate ABSENT Daniel Richter Nathan Collins, (Excused) Jr., Alternate (Excused) Carmen Annunziato, Planning Director Chairman Walshak called the meeting to order at 7:30 P. M. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF MEMBERS AND VISITORS The following people were in the audience: Former Mayor Nick Cassandra; Frank Cassandra; Simon Ryder; former Chair- man of the Planning and Zoning Board; Sam Scheiner, former Vice Chairman of the Community Redevelopment Agency, and Pamela Hasterok, Reporter, Palm Beach Post. REVIEW OF PROPOSED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DATED NOVEMBER OF 1988 After comments as to where they left off at the last meeting and where they should begin, Mr. Annunziato felt they should go back to the multi-family change from Medium Density to High Density Residential on the East side of Seacrest Boule- vard. The Board went over it, but he did not think a posi- tion was ev~t taken by the Board. Chairman Walshak did not think the Board took a position on anything, and he said they would discuss positions on the plan at the end of this meeting. Once they finish the Land Use changes, Chairman Walshak asked what the Board's feeling was as far as making recommen- dations. Each individual Board Member could make his or her - 1 - MINUTES- PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 recommendation, and they could send all of those recommenda- tions forward, or the Board could vote on the recommendations. Each Member was asked to give his or her thoughts, and it was the opinion of all of the other Board members that there should be a general consensus of all the Board members rather than to give individual recommendations. DISCUSSION RE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS Sara Simms Park Expansion (Map Letter J) Medium Density Residential to Recreation Mr. Annunziato told the Members that this would square off Sara Simms park. One or two homes are there, but most of the land is vacant. Area west of Seacrest Boule- vard between N. W. 7th Avenue and N. W. 9th Court (Map Letter K) Low Density Residential to High Density Residential Mr. Annunziato apprised the Members that one thing looked for by Plantec was an opportunity to provide for more multi-family housing in the area and to take advantage of land that was not being utilized. At the same time, they did not want to impose a land use conflict into a n~ighbor- hood. Mr. Annunziato indicated the location of muti-family housing and said property to the west of it is vacant and/ or rights-of-way. The intent here was to take advantage of the vacant property, plus the undeveloped rights-of-way, and combine them into a building parcel. Vice Chairman Blanchette asked if the rights-of-way that had not been abandoned were still serving houses, and he gave an example. For the most part, that property was vacant, but if they were serving existing homes and the right-of-way was abandoned, half would go to the adjacent property owner, or the public or developer would have to buy the property right. Mr. Annunziato pointed out that there was an opportunity to increase the density. If all of the lands were accumulated, the private property owner's interest, plus the rights-of- way provide an opportunity for additional multi-family housing. Mr. Lehnertz noted that three churches were surrounding it. To develop that, Vice Chairman Blanchette thought one owner would need to own maybe all of the lots. Mr. Annunziato called attention to the comment under Map Letter K, which said, "when these parcels are combined for a - 2 - MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 multi-family project, in accordance with the Community Redevelopment Plan." The intent is not to allow piecemeal development. It would be only if all of those properties were accumulated. Then, they could take advantage of the High Density Residential category. Mr. Annunziato added that the Members would see a lot of that kind of recommenda- tion in the proposed Futurs Land Use Element of the ~ompre- hensive Plan. ~hen you think about it, the properties that are undeveloped are properties that somehow have a problem. Mr. Annunziato further explained. Mr. Aguila understood the logic behind one person or entity having control to avoid piecemeal, but he wondered what the odds were of one entity actually doing that. Mr. Annunziato thought it would take a public private partnership to do it. Mr. Aguila thought the plans were very good, but he was hear- ing they may not get implemented just because of that one condition. Mr. Annunziato responded that Mr. Aguila's point was well taken, but it would take an active program (a combination of public and private interest) to make these things happen. Mr. Annunziato further commented and proposals, and they will not be easy thought they should be thought of in then said these are to implement. He that light. West side of Seacrest Boule- vard, north of N. W. 3rd Avenue Map Letter L Local Retail Commercial to Medium Density Residential Mr. Annunziato informed the Members that Map Letter L is a strip of land on the west side of Seacrest Boulevard from 3rd Avenue north to 6th Avenue. Vice Chairman Blanc~ette asked if it would be deep enough to do it. Mr. Annunziato thought it went back 1½ lots. He felt the intent there was to take advantage of some of the under utilized properties and provide for additional housing. After discussion, Mr. Annunziato advised that it should be from Local Retail Commercial to Medium Density Residential and not to Medium and High Density Residential, as shown on the backup to his memo of December 8, 1989. He informed Mr. Lehnertz that by Medium Density Residential, he was talk- ing about primarily duplexes. Mr. Aguila asked what the logic was in wanting to go from Local Retail Commercial to Medium Density Residential. Mr. MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 Annunziato replied that Commercial has not proven to be successful, and the market is limited. He thought there was an attempt here to provide for additional housing. Mr. Aguila asked if small commercial businesses could be put on Medium Density Residential. Mr. Annunziato answered affirma- tively. Vice Chairman Blanchette noted that someone men- tioned 9.68 units per acre, and he thought it would be hard to develop 9.68 units on that strip. Mr. Annunziato replied that they could just about do it with duplexes. Vice Chairman Blanchette questioned whether they could provide the necessary setbacks and parking. Mr. Annunziato answered, "Yes, but one duplex would be very close." Mr. Lehnertz thought it would make sense to pull Local Retail out of that area. Vice Chairman Blanchette commented that this City has very few duplex lots, especially good duplex lots. The zoning for a lot of duplexes was along railroad tracks and in places where no one wanted anything. Economically, nice duplexes are the best thing you can put up today, but no one is ~oing to put them along the FEC tracks. Mrs. Huckle asked if it was changed to Local Retail Commer- cial in the last rezoning. Mr. Annunziato recalled that there was a rezonlng of the northend of that strip to Local Retail Commercial seven or eight years ago. Mrs. Huckle noted he was saying the parcel under current discussion had been Local Retail for quite awhile, but nothing had been developed Local Retail. Mr. Annunziato agreed, saying it was primarily Residential. Nothing was developed Commercial. Mrs. Huckle thought that was another reason to recommend changes. In response to a comment by Vice Chairman Blanchette, Mr. Annunziato said there were businesses that were there, but nothing has developed there. There is only the drive-thru, and a little strip shopping center north of the church. Mrs. Huckle recalled a beauty shop was there. Vice Chairman Blanchette recalled they had been there since 1972, and Mr. Annunziato advised that was the last commercial develop- ment in that area. If duplexes were on this parcel, Mr. Zimmerman thought they would be quite compatible to the single family homes to the west. - 4 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 Boynton Beach Boulevard, both sides, between 1-95 and Seacrest Boulevard (Map Letter M) Local Retail Commercial to Office Commercial While there is not an overwhelming demand for multi-tenant offices, Mr. Annunziato said there is a demand for small office users who cater to the surrounding neighborhood, such as dentists, lawyers, chiropracters, etc. The sugges- tion behind M is to take advantage of that opportunity. The recommendation from Plantec was to change the Local Retail Commercial category to Office/Professional and rezone to C-1. In the Redevelopment Plan and in the proposed Future Land Use Plan, based upon the Redevelopment Plan, there is a recommendation that if you acquired lots that are deep (to let Avenue), they would be construed to be in the Office/Professional Land Use category if they were combined with lots fronting on Boynton Beach Boulevard of a certain size (probably 1/2 acre). That sort of thinking began to develop some of the problem parcels in the City. Mr. Annunziato said they were now looking at the change to Office/Professional (small scale one or two user offices), which is what it is now, for the most part. Chairman Walshak questioned what that would do to Urban Design Studio's plan. Mr. Annunziato thought it would enhamce it because the scale of smaller buildings makes it easier to adapt to the architectural style(coastal village). Chairman Walshak asked if the lots were deep enough. Mr. Annunziato answered that they are deep enough for sm~ll development. Vice Chairman Blanchette thought that ~ad been proven because most of the old houses along there have been taken over by small businesses. In some cases, they are tight on parking and what is required, and the City has had to give variances of some type. If the greenbelt were implemented, Chairman Walshak did not think the lots would be big enough to do anything. ~e suggested~ that maybe the line could be pushed back a little bit to make it workable. Mr. Annunziato advised that this was debated publicly among the presenters of the Urban Design plan, the City Commission, the Redevelopment ~gency, and the public. After further commenting, he expressed that Chairman Walshak's point was well taken. If development of the property is more than 1/2 a lot depth in connection with development of the property on the Boulevard, it may make sense. If they would adhere to the greenbelt thesis from 1-95 to Seacrest, Chairman Walshak felt the line would have to be MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 pushed further north or further south, or they would end up with unbuildable lots. He explained. Mr. Zimmerman asked if the greenbelt would stay under private ownership. Mr. Annunziato answered that several of these properties have developed a 20 foot greenbelt. As far as parking behind the buildings, the public agency review has been to take the landscape program for the greenbelt and impose it. Then the owner of the property ends up with that as his front landscape, which is consistent with the Boynton Beach Boulevard Urban Design Plan, which has not been adopted. Chairman Walshak asked the audience to contribute to the conversation at any time. Former Mayor Nick Cassandra suggested that the Board call out the boundaries the~ were talking about, as there was no map. Mrs. Huckle noted the Figure 15 map showed part of t~e area they were talking about, to the north of Boynton Beach Boulevard, as stable residential areas. She questioned how it could be shown that way when it was almost all Co~mercial along there. Mr. Annunziato thought it was probably an area in general. They included areas that were already Commercial. Mr. Annunziato guessed they were saying the neighborhood was fairly stable. Unless he misunderstood, Mr. Aguila was thinking if a person wanted to develop an acre or two, he would have to b~y the property from 1-95 to Seacrest, or have some control over it, before he could do anything with it. Mr. Annunziato informed him that there was no requirement that one ~roperty owner buy all of that property. The finding was that there did not appear to be much of a market for large multi-tenant office buildings. In accordance with trying to make the entrance to the City look better and trying to go with the greenbelt concept, Mr. Lehnertz felt it would be a positive step to exp~nd it. Then they would have a greenbelt along Boynton Beach Boulevard and different offices with parking behind ~hem, which would make everything look much better. Now, everything is cramped together with cars all over the place. It does not look aesthetic and pleasing. Chairman Walshak agreed with Mr. Lehnertz that it negded to be pushed further north and south, if they were going to do anything with the greenbelt. Mr. Zimmerman interjected that - 6 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 at one time, the greenbelt was only considered on the south side. Mrs. Huckle agreed. Chairman Walshak thought the City would probably mandate some sort of greenbelt along either side, irregardless of the plan. Mr. Zimmerman advised that the greenbelt is more extensive than ordinary landscape. There were comments about the architectural style. Mr. Annunziato stated that the designers and property owners have been cooperative. He thought they saw it as a way to enhance their business. There was further discussion about the greenbelt. Mr. Annunziato recalled that it became a 20 foot landscape theme, which involved planting Washingtonian Palms, one form of lighting, etc., which is what the City has in the projects they have worked on. They have coordinated sidewalks, type of lighting~ landscaping, and architecture. Chairman Walshak questioned, "Why the approach that this be C-l?" Mr. Annunziato answered that the findings in the redevelopment plan relating to market suggested that there is a very limited market for Retail Commercial use, primarily shopping center type uses. He thought the intent was to take that demand and put it in one place. That was why the shopping center recommendation was for the corner of Seacrest and Boynton Beach Boulevard. Chairman Walshak did not like that recommendation. Mr. Annunziato responded that a lot of people do not liks it. Chairman Wa~shak brought out the fact that they were talk- ing about ~utting a giant shopping center across the street from the new City edifice. Mr. Annunziato stated that it was probabl~ the most hotly debated item in the Land Use Section of ~he Redevelopment Plan. Once the City complex is finished, and if and when the bridge goes through, the property along Boynton Beach Boulevard will be "dynamite" for Professional and Office use. Chairman Walshak agreed with Mr. Lehnertz that they would need to give room for developers to do that. East of Seacrest on Map Reference 18, Chairman Walshak observed a line was coming across from the railroad ~est, and he asked why that line could not be continued straight through. It would just about come down to N. W. 3rd Avenue. Mr. Annunziato replied that the Board should consider the impact of that decision on the recommendation for multi- family housing to the north or the projections of Local Retail north of there. Chairman Watshak agreed that if the - 7 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 line for C-1 is moved further north, it would diminish some of the R-3 that was being proposed just north of there. Mr. Howard thought they had to make that decision because the way it is now, nothing can be done with it. There was discussion about zoning, locations, and the line suggested by Chairman Walshak. Mr. Annunziato wanted to comment on the line, because he felt it was something the Board should be very concerned about. He stated that he would only be comfortable recommending expanding approxi- mately one lot north and one lot south of Boynton Beach Boulevard, if it was in connection with some very restric- tive conditions of approval. For example, that the orien- tation of development be to th~ Boulevard. By that, he meant there would be no access to the rear of those proper- ties in the residential areas. Secondly, Mr. Annunz~ato said you would not want a lot on N. W. 3rd Avenue, west of 3rd Street, to develop independently of the lot on Boynton Beach Boulevard because tha~ would ~e an encouragement to the residential area. In the recommendations the Board would read in the future Land Use Element,~ Mr. Annunziato said the issue was a~dressed very specifically: conditions of approval, lot size, curb cuts, combination of lots, and tying in with properties on Boynton Beach Boulevard. ~e thought it would be easier to deal with it within that context. If t~e Board would let it go until then, Mr. Annunziato thought they would have an ~pportunity to get the full picture. Vice Chairman Blanchette agreed with Mr. Annunziato. ~e thought they would definitely have to run a wall there, and he felt there should not be any ingress or egress on that private street. Vice Chairman Blanchette referred to lots off Hollywood Boulevard in Hollywood like this. Shopping was on one side, and beautiful residential was o~ the other side. With the one lot depth, both lots on the north and south lost footage from their property when the ~iden~ng of the road occurred. To him, the lots were not deep enough to develop. Mr. Aguila questioned what the property owner on the resi- dential side (N. W. 1st Street) see, when he is looking towards the whole block of Boynton Beach Boulevard that is now C-1. He wondered if the property owner would see a wall. Vice Chairman Blanchette answered that the wall would be landscaped. Chairman Walshak reminded them that this same situation was presented on Seacrest with professional and office buildings. Dirsctly behind them is Residential. MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 Mr. Howard said the following should be addressed: The ele- vation of the back of a building would be similar to the current elevation, and he wanted people in the residential area to see something nice instead of the back of a build- ing. Mr. Annunziato answered that was the kind of constraints that would be addressed in the Future Land Use Element, and he would rather tackle them there. There was discussion about landscaping, land uses, and height. Samuel Scheiner, former Vice Chairman of the CRA, 528 S. E. 27th Terrace, has been trying to get the Commission to understand that a parking district should be created in the downtown area and on Boynton Beach Boulevard to give a developer an opportunity to develop 90% of the land he wants to build on. To do that, parking garages must be created, so the developer can provide the number of parking spaces to take care of his off street parking. Otherwise, if a multi- story building is built, most of the land would have to be for off street parking. Mr. Scheiner referred to the City Code. In order to have a parking district in Florida, Mr. Scheiner e~phasized that you have to go to the Legislature, which might take some time. He could see that they would not solve that problem unless they start the ball rolling. Mr. Scheiner recommended to the Board and the Commission ~hat they start the ball rolling and get the Legislators t~ )ro- pose a Bill in Tallahassee, so the City can create a )a~king district. With a parking district, the City can tax ~hose properties that are affected. The City can have a bo~d issue to build a garage, take care of the interest on that, the maintenance and security. The people affected wi be the ones that will pay. Chairman Walshak agreed that would be a necessity to get the Central Business District (~BD) started, but he did not think it was relevant to what the Board was talking about. After discussion about extending the lots, curb cuts, park- ing, and variances, Chairman Walshak asked if the Board could make the recommendation suggested by Mr. Scheiner to the Commission. Mr. Annunzlato answered affirmatively. Mr. Scheiner said they would use up a lot of the land before they start building if they have off street parking. They will pay a lot of money for land and will not be able to build on it. Mr. Aguila suggested they might look into cross acces~ between property owners to restrict the number of openings - 9 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 because they want to limit the number of curb outs. Chairman Walshak felt a piece of property designated for a parking garage would be appropriate. Mr. Howard asked how high a density they were talking about, and he asked if they were looking at a two story building. Mr. Scheiner did not think they would get a developer to buy land if he can only go up two stories, because it would not work. It did not appear to Mr. Lehnertz that there would be the need for a centralized parking area, particularly if they extended the depth of the lots so that there would be parking behind the buildings. Mr. Aguila pointed out that people would want a parking lot where they could go uo their building. Mr. Zimmerman called attention to the recently built two story building on Boynton Beach Boulevard, east of Holiday Inn, where the first story is parking. IQ takes care of the parking situation, but there is one story of offices, and it does not eliminate the problem of curb cuts. There was discussion about curb cuts. Mrs. Huckle thought they all agreed there should be more depth on both sides. Someone thought they should see what it would impact. There was discussion about the surrounding areas. Chairman Walshak asked if the Members were in agreemeDt that they drop the east/west line down to the north side o~ let Avenue and up to 3rd. He thought later they would hame an opportunity to talk about the stipulations, condition~, and Mr. Scheiner's suggestion, Mr. Annunziato informed ME. Aguila that the Board would spend more than three or four nights on the Land Use Element alone. S. W. Corner of Boynton Beach Boulevard and Seacrest Boulevard (Map Letter N) Low Density Residential Local Retail Commercial Mr. Annunziato clarified that these were the properties on the north side of N. W. let Avenue, east of N. W. let Street. It would be south and west of the post office. The recommendation from Plantec was to allow redevelopment of that entire block. Mr. Annunziato informed Chairman Walshak that is where the post office, beauty salon, and Skinner Real Estate are. He thought there would always be a post office presence there. Chairman Walshak noticed they would be surrounding the new City Hall with Commercial and that it was suggested that - 10 MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 office space be further east. He could not understand that thinking. Mr. Annunziato replied that a market study was done, and it was determined there was only a market for shopping center land uses. There was discussion abo~t the market study. Mr. Annunziato asked the Members to remember they were dealing with a redevelopment area where they wanted to generate some Tax Increment Financing (TIF), show something happening, and prom6te changes as auicklv as they ~ Given those principles, the most i~entif~able ef~o~he Consultant came up with, where there was a demand, was a shopping center. That was the only market they were able to identify where an opportunity existed. Mr. Annunziato did not think the Consultants clearly denied that there was a long term opportunity to do something different, but the horizon might be ten years in the future, and that may negatively impact the successfulness of the Redevelopment Plan. He thought those were the things they should weigh. Mr. Annunziato stated that there was an opportunity Dr a retail shopping center now and no identifiable opportanity for a multi-tenant office building. Chairman Walshak asked if somebody has already said they want to build a shopping center there. Based on the demigraphics, land cost, ~tc., Mr. Annunziato said the Consul%ants went to several stopping center developers, and identified that an opportunity ~as there. Chairman Walshak questioned whether Mr. Ann~n~iato knew that for a fact. Mr. Annunziato answered that ~ ~ was publicly stated by the person that drafted the report the Members had. Chairman Walshak argued that it was at ~he meeting the Board was locked out of, and it was not a public meeting. Mrs. Huckle recalled that a lot of people were there. Chairman Walshak recollected that people were invited to the meeting, and other public people were there. Considering that the Hypoluxo shopping center is very far north, the ones on Woolbright Road are quite a distance south, the one on Federal Highway is old, small, and dilapi- dated, Mr. Zimmerman said they considered there was no possible shopping for people who move into this area, but they did not consider that people are now going across the Interstate and shopping on Congress Avenue, which is ~ot that far away. He thought that threw elements into the market study that they did not complete. Chairman Walshak thought there were a lot of things they did not consider. He further commented about the report, the above mentioned meeting, and the shopping center. Chairman Walshak thought 11 MIk~UTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 there were a lot of places up and down Seacrest where they could put the shopping center that would service the CBD area. There was discussion about the shopping center. Mr. Aguila thought they should come to a conclusion on Map Letter M. Chairman Walshak reminded him that he made the point that they are rezoning it Commercial on the west side of the City complex, and they are going Commercial on the north side of the City complex. The office buildings are being put way down between Seacrest and 1-95, which made no sense to him. Chairman Walshak preferred to see the office buildings around City Hall and the shopping centers further to the east. Mr. Aguila thought Map Le%ter N should continue being Office all the way t~ Sea'crest. He thought that was appropriate on the southwest corner. Mr. Aguila wondered if there was some way they could restrict the types of Commercial uses that would be in there, so that there would not be a shopping center like a Winn- Dixie or a Publixr as he did not think that was appropriate across from City Hall. He suggested boutiques. Mr. Annunziato guessed the theory was that Winn-Dixie would re- locate from its current U. S. 1 shopping center because the building does not meet their curren% designs. Mr. A~uila stated that the Board did no~ have to agree with the Consultant s findings. That was what Chairman Walshak had been saying for the last month, and he emphasized that he did not agree with them. Mr. Annunziato was not disagreeing with them, but he thought the Consultant would argue that shops and boutiques would fail. Chairman Walshak re~erred to all of the Local Retail around the City complex, and office spaces. Mr. Aguila proposed that Map Letter N not go to Local Retail Commercial but remain Office~ and that they restrict the type of Commercial use that can be on the N. E. corner of Boynton Beach Boulevard. There were comments about a Winn- Dixie being further up on Seacrest, and Mr. Annunziato advised that they would not get a shopping center to locate on North Boynton Beach Boulevard. After further comments, Chairman Walshak expressed that they had to look down the road. If the bridge and turnpike **exist are built, Boynton Beach Boulevard will be a major thoroughfare and the window of the City. Mr. Aguila remarked that if Winn-Dixie does not go in there, somebody else will. Mr. Annunziato advised that an opportunity which existed was identified. That did not mean that ten years *Should be north of Bo]alton Beach BOulevard. See 2/1~/89 **Should be ~xit. See 2/1~/89 - 12 MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 from now a different opportunity might exist. Mr. Annunziato thought the question was whether the City could afford to wait that long for an opportunity that may or may not exist. Boynton Beach has waited a long time, and Chairman Walshak did not think waiting a little longer would hurt the City. There was discussion about zoning, extending the offices, and the corner. Mrs. Huckle asked what the main thrust for squaring the block off was. The Members informed her that they dropped the rest of Boynton Beach Boulevard's depth down to N. W. 1st Street. Mrs. Huckle pointed out that they did not know that it would be accomplished. It may be a recommendation. Mrs. Huckle was talking about Map Letter N and said it is now all Residential. There was discussion about office use, Winn-Dixie, and retail uses. Chairman Walshak said the consensus of the Board was to take the Local Retail Commercial out of there and continue the Office use all the way to Seacrest Boulevard. It would be bounded on the south by N. W. 1st Avenue. Mr. Annunziato determined that the recommendation for Map Letter N would be to go from Low Density Residential to Office/Professional. He explained that the land use category is Office/ Professional. Mr. Annunziato told the Members to delete the last amendment listed in his memorandum of December 8, 1988, as it no longer exists. Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard and North Seacrest Blvd. Former Mayor Nick Cassandra recalled that the second recommendation of the Consultant for a shopping center such as the Members just finished talking about was MartiniLuther King, Jr. Boulevard, and he wondered if the Board addressed that. Chairman Walshak replied that since the workshops began, he had been advocating moving the shopping center into the heart of the redevelopment area, which would!be North Seacrest Boulevard andiMartin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard. Former Mayor Casisandra sai~d the Consultant made the recommendation, which the Board should act upon, and he asked if the Board acted onithe second alternative. Mr. Annunziato advised that ther~e was no need to change t~e land use there, as it already exists, and the Board has had the redeVelopment plan. He read page III-21 of the Redevelopment Plan. Chairman Walshak thought the seCond rec°~menda~ion was more acceptable. - 13 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 Location Former Mayor Cassandra also recalled that a develope~ had wanted to bUild a Shopping center where the Matthews~ store was on Seacrest BoUlevard, but that died. Mr. Annunziato responded that the developer could not get a market, i You cannot get financing if you cannot prove there is a ~arket. RECOMMENDATIONS Land Use Category Current Land Use in ProposedI Category on FutUre Community I Land Use Plan RedevelOpmeNt Plan North side.of Ocean Ave. between N. E. let St. and N. E. 3rd St. (Map Letter A) High Density Residential Local Retiail Commerciall Mr. Scheiner felt there was too much Commercial property in ~--he ~e asked why they did not make it multi-stbry or high density housing instead of Commercial. Mr. Agui~a replied that the Board had gone through a series of l~ts, Some from Commercial to Residential, etc., because they made sense at that spot. There was discussion. Chairman Walshak pointed out that this is close to any future expansioh of the City Hall. There was diScussion and arguments about the uses lin Local Retail Commercial, 7-11s, and what the , recommendation should be. Chairman Walshak recommended that rather than Local R~tail Commercial, it go to C-l, Office/Professional, or Public Usage because he felt the property would become very ~seful to the City once the City complex is finished. He el~bor- at~d~ Mr. Annunziato advised that it could not Public Usage land use category, ~ ...... ~ ~.~- there was no opportunity for anybody other than the C~ty to use the property. That would suggest that the City was go- lng ito buy the property, and Mr. Annunziato did not t~ink the City was in a posture to buy the property. After other comments, Chairman Walshak commented thatlif was changed to Local Retail Commercial, someone wouldlput~ ~o~venlence store or something there. Mr. Annunziato~ · nzormed Mr. Aguila that the proposal was to use the dBD as one*acre, the Civic Center as another*acre, and creat~ some sort of pedestrian oriented, highly restricted, small Iscale commercial neighborhood. It Would be highly restricted as *Should be anchor. See 2/14/89 Minutes. 14 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 to use and design and require no parking, as parking would be available at the Civic Center. There would be zero set- backs, and it would create a more urban environment in a small area. It would be from Seacrest Boulevard to the railroad tracks. There was discussion and disagreements about convenience stores and small lots. According to the text, Mrs~ Huckle read that the City's Future Land Use Element recommended the allowance of Retail and Office Uses on Ocean Avenue Westward to N. E. 1st S~reet on a restric%ed basis, reflecting the transition taking place in the area with the new City complex. She and Mr. Lehnertz further read from the text. Under the circumstances, Mrs~ Huckle did not think it was a bad idea to go along with that recommendation. Chairman Walshak doubted very much if High Density Residen- tial would ever be done there, but if somebody wants to build a coastal type building there and asks for a land use change, the Board would have a~ opportunity to look at it. If they do it this way, they will~e putting themselves at risk. Mrs. Huckle reminded him that the zoning map ~ould be brought up later. T!~ey were talking about zoning categories. When you re{commend a change for the land use, Chairman Walshak pointed out that specific things can be built in that land use, and he expounded. He repeate~ his suggestion. After comments about land uses, Mr. Zimmerman advised that it would give more opportunity for redevelopment quicker, which that area badly needs. If they would do it now, Mr. Lehnertz felt they would be giving developers a direction they would like to see them go in, and he explained. Chairman Walshak reminded him that the same restrictions were on Boynton Beach Boulevard, where they put the K~ntucky Fried Chicken. ~th the exception of Chairman Walshak and Vice Chairman anchette, everyone agreed with the recommendation ih the proposed plan. East side of Sea- crest Blvd. between Boynton Beach Blvd. and N. E. 4th Ave. (Map Letter B) Medium Density Residential Local Retail Commercial Mr. Aguila went along with the recommendation but echoed that there should be some restrictions, because he did not 15 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 want a Winn-Dixie across from City Hall. Mr. Lehnertz agreed with the recommendation, with a unity of title restriction. With the exception of Chairman Walshak, everyone else agreed with the recommendation, subject to restrictions. East side of Sea- crest Blvd. between N. E. 4th Ave. and N. E. 5th Street (Map Letter C) Medium Density Residential High Density Residential The Board unanimously Proposed mini-park site at N. E. 6th Ave. and N. E. 5th Street (Map Letter D) agreed with this recommendation. Medium Density Residential Recreation The Board unanimously agreed with this 3 lots on east side of N. E. 3rd St., north of N. E. 9th Avenue Local Retail (Map Letter E) Commercial ecommendat ion. Medium Density Residential Mr. Annunziato reminded the Members that the properties to the west are vacant, as are these properties. The idea was to provide a reasonably sized block of lots to allow someone to put in more than one house. Mr. Annunziato further explained. The Members unanimously agreed with this Proposed park in Laneharts SubdivisIon Medium Density (Map Letter F) Residential recommendation. Recreation The Members unanimously agreed with this recommendation. Boynton Canal Right-of-Way Low and Moderate (Map Letter G) Density Residential Recreation-, Chairman Walshak agreed provided that into a park area, they make sure that if the City turns it the South Florida Water 16 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 Management District (SFWMD) does not use it for spoilage. After discussion about spoilage Mr. Annunziato advised that those properties are primarily for spoil and access, ibut that did not make them incompatible with other uses. He explained. There was discussion about uses and the right- of 2way. Mrs. Huckle read that the text indicated that an agreement with the SFWMD and the construction of a road and parking for the area. The Board agreed with the recommendation. Wilson Park Expansion (Map Letter H) Medium Density Residential Recreat i~n The Board unanimously agreed with this recommendation. Future Poinciana Public a~d Elementary School Low and Medium Private Expansion Density Governmental/ (Map Letter I) Residen%ial Institutilonal The Members recalled that they talked about extending Chairman Walshak recollected that the consensus of th at the last workshop meeting was to expand it to incl the property from the Boynton Canal to the school. T Members agreed. Sara Simms Park Expansion (Map Letter J) Medium Density Residential Recreat ion this. Board ade The Members agreed with this recommendation. Area west of Seacrest ~ Blvd. between N.W. ~ 7th Avenue and N.W. , 9th Court Low Density High Density (Map Letter K) Residential Reisidential~ ' Mr. Lehnertz agreed with the stipulation that ~here be unity of title. Vice Chairman Blanchette suggested ~hat unity of title may be impossible. Mr. Annunziato advised thatlthe policy on these parcels is to provide for a mu~ti-family project. The Board unanimously agreed with the recommendation. - 17 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA West side of Sea- crest Blvd., north of N. W. 3rd Ave. (Map Letter L) Local Retail Commercial FEBRUARY 2, 1989 Medium and High Density Residential The Members unanimously agreed with this recommendation. Chairman Walshak reminded the Members that this would be the last opportunity they would have to talk "Residential" on the plan. He thought there should be more discussion, and suggested the City may want to resurrect its Housing Authority. As 90% of it was residential, he was concerned about mixing it in with the CBD. Boynton Beach Blvd., both sides, between 1-95 and Seacrest Blvd. Local Retail Office (Map Letter M) Commercial Commercial The Members recalled that they wanted to extend this one lot to the north and south. Mr. Annunziato advised that the Board not deal with that in this recommendation. Whe~ the Future Land Use Plan comes, there will be specific recommen- dations which will carry very strict criteria for developing. Mr. Aguila asked if Mr. Annunziato was saying they would get an opportunity to extend it when they see the Land Us~ Plan. Mr. Annunziato replied, "Absolutely." Chairman Walshak urged the Board to make a decision now and not regret it later. Mrs. Huckle saw no reason not to. The Board agreed unanimously to agree with the recommenda- tion and that the boundaries north and south be expanded approximately a one lot depth. Mr. Annunziato though~ it would have to be S. W. corner Boynton Beach Blvd. and Sea- crest Blvd. (Map Letter N) looked at very closely. Low Density Local Retail Residential Commercial Mr. Aguila's thought was to go to Office/Professional~ There was discussion about the zoning and the land use. Chairman Walshak determined that the Board was not agreeing with Local Retail Commercial but was agreeing with Office/ Commercial. The Members agreed. 18 - MINUTES - PLANNING & ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA FEBRUARY 2, 1989 FURTHER COMMENTS BY AUDIENCE AND BOARD MEMBERS Interchanges at 1-95 Mr. Scheiner did not see why the City did not go ahead and do something with the interchange at 1-95 and Boynton Beach Boulevard and 1-95 and Woolbright Road. They did not have to wait for an overall plan. He asked why it was not land- scaped like other communities have landscaped it, so there will be a nice entrance into the City from major highways. Mr. Zimmerman apprised him that was up to the City Commission. Mr. Scheiner responded that the City Commission needs someone to make recommendations. He further commented, and the~e was discussion about the time o~ the Commission meetings~ Sewage Disposal Plant Mr. Scheiner asked why the old sewer plant is allowed to look like it does. Because of its boundaries, Chair~m~n Walshak said he had suggested that the plant be cleaned out and temporary housing be put there while they are locating people. Mr. Annunziato informed him that there are above ground hydraulic tanks there, and there is not enough money to smash them. The alternative is to find uses that are compatible with a lot of the existing structures. Trees for City Property Mr. Schelner further inquired why the City does not plant trees around its property. ADJOURNMENT The meeting properly adjourned at 9:30 P. M. - 19 -