Minutes 06-19-00 MEETING MINUTES NEIGHBORHOOD FORUM
WITH COMMISSIONER CHARLIE FISHER, MONDAY, JUNE 19, 2000
AT VILLAGE ROYALE ON THE GREEN EAST CLUBHOUSE,
2505 NE 2ND COURT, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
Present
Commissioner Charlie Fisher
Police Chief Marshall Gage
City Manager Kurt Bressner
Opening Statement
Commissioner Fisher called the meeting to order at 6:45 p.m. and explained to
the audience that he represents District IV, which covers Village Royale on the
Green. Commissioner Fisher thanked Village Royale for allowing the City to hold
its first Commission meeting on the road at their clubhouse and announced that
next month the Commission meeting would take place at Boynton Beach
Leisureville on July 5th. Tonight's meeting was the result of discussion that took
place at Commissioner Fisher's CIP meeting where residents requested that they
wanted more police officers and said there are problems that need to be
addressed.
Commissioner Fisher introduced Police Chief Gage who would be conducting the
meeting, which would focus on the area east of 1-95 and north of Gateway. It
was requested that the issues tonight be limited to police concerns.
Police Chief Gage invited two of his staff members to the meeting and asked
them to introduce themselves. Lt. Carl Miller stated that he is the evening shift
Watch Commander and works from 3:30 p.m. until 11:30 p.m. Officer Paul Deale
stated that he has been with the Boynton Beach Police Department since 1997
and works the evening shift in the north end of the City, which are zones 1 and 2.
Village Royale is located in zone 1.
Also present were two COP volunteers. A representative stated that COP stands
for Citizen's Observer Patrol and explained what the COPs' duties are and that
they patrol 24 hours per day in two-hour shifts.
Chief Gage stated that there are over 1100 volunteers citywide in the COP
program and explained how a COP program can be instituted in a community.
Some COP programs have branched out from their communities into their
neighboring areas, both residential and business.
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Chief Gage stated that there were many perceptions about tonight's meeting and
explained how he intended to conduct the meeting. Chief Gage stated that
perception wise, if anyone in the audience has been a victim of a crime recently,
crime is running rampant. If numbers alone were discussed, numbers are coming
down. However, numbers mean nothing to a person who has been a recent
crime victim. Chief Gage stated his goal is to prevent a person from becoming a
victim again.
Chief Gage pointed out that the County about two years ago asked the City if it
would take over SandCastle and incorporate it into the City. The County claimed
that SandCastle had a major crime problem as a direct result of Boynton Beach
Officers driving drug dealers out of the City and into that area, which Chief Gage
pointed out he encourages his officers to drive the drug dealers north. Driving
the drug dealers south, only encourages them to come back. The City did not
want to take over SandCastle and declined. The Sheriff took over the area and
sent the drug dealers back to Boynton. As a result of this, everyone has been
playing Ping-Pong sending the drug dealers back and forth. Now, an officer from
the City in a month or two will be assigned to the County and deputized and the
City will be working hand and hand with the County.
Last year Boynton Beach experienced about a 14% drop in crime. Chief Gage
pointed out that the officers coming onboard are now better educated, but
unfortunately there is a problem with drug dealers and they are working hard on
the problem. Chief Gage announced that today the City served federal warrants
on five drug dealers in the City, two that are in this zone. Unfortunately, the
possibility of someone else taking their place exists.
A question was asked how the residents could assist the police with dealing with
the drug dealers. Chief Gage stated that residents should feel free to provide the
information to him or to call the desk. Response time is very important and
residents have the right to the expectation of a reasonable response time. Chief
Gage reported that communications have been instructed that if for any reason
arrival time by an officer is 15 minutes or more, the person calling is told of this.
Also dispatch has been instructed if the officer responding to the call cannot
respond within a 15-minute timeframe, they are to call the complainant back with
an anticipated time of arrival. On hot ("emergency") calls, police response time is
under seven minutes throughout the city.
A woman asked by how many police officers is the City understaffed? Chief
Gage stated as of today there are two and as of next Monday, there will be none.
Chief Gage stated that about three or four months ago the Police Department
was down about 10 to 12 officers.
Mr. Marshall Friedland asked if there are still discrimination problems in the
Police Department? Chief Gage stated that there is a big problem nationwide in
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trying to recruit minorities and reported that Delray Beach is down approximately
10 to 12 officers and Boca Raton is down approximately 12 to 15. The City's
recruitment is getting better, because the City is getting a better reputation. He
replied that the City is actively pursuing minority candidates and the City itself is
sponsoring three to four minority candidates to the academy.
A woman asked why Officer Deale was covering two zones tonight and was
informed that was not the case. Officer Deale replied that he covers zones 1, 2
or 3 and is assigned specific zones. Chief Gage noted that some zones have
been split up, but zone 1 is not split up and as a result of a full staff, there will be
more police presence in the area.
A woman in the audience stated there is a problem with prostitution in the area
and asked what the police department is doing about prostitution. Lt. Miller
stated that there is far less prostitution in the City and there are very few
prostitutes in Boynton Beach. He noted that Delray Beach and Lake Worth have
problems and he is aware of the two prostitutes that were mentioned. Boynton
Beach has done very well over the past few years with getting rid of prostitutes.
Ms. Zibelli stated that she has not received any response on the gang graffiti that
is on the road and stated it has not been cleaned up. Chief Gage said he would
follow through on getting this cleaned up because he had previously asked a
staff member to take care of this.
Ms. Zibelli also stated that a speed chase had taken place on her street and
when she called the City, the dispatcher hung up on her. She stated that officers
eventually did show up, but there was a very long response time. Chief Gage
pointed out that dispatch does not answer to the Chief of Police and is part of
communications. Dispatch works for the police and fire departments, but if a
problem does occur he passes it on to the appropriate person.
Also, Ms. Zibelli said that traffic on her street has increased tremendously
because the truck drivers don't like getting off Gateway now that it is down to one
lane and there are a lot of children on her street. Ms. Zibelli would like to see
some speed bumps placed on Ocean Parkway to deter all this traffic. Chief
Gage said he would look into this.
Chief Gage stated that his philosophy on speeding is 20% over the speed limit
you get a ticket. Ms. Zibelli stated that the school buses are the worst offenders
with speeding.
Chief Gage pointed out that three-four years ago the topic of discussion was a
major crime problem in the City with drug dealers and prostitutes, but pointed out
tonight the discussion is speeding issues, which is much more pleasant to deal
with compared to drug dealers and prostitutes.
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Mr. Friedland pointed out that during the summer months the children need to
have more to do to keep them out of mischief. Ms. Zibelli stated that she has
spoken with Wally Majors about the school grounds being made available with
supervision for the children during the summer. However, Ms. Zibelli said that
Dr. Voss would not allow this.
Commissioner Fisher reported that a needs assessment for a teen center and
programs for teens are being undertaken by the Advisory Board on Children &
Youth.
A gentleman in the audience inquired if the Ezell Hester Center was providing a
need for the children during the summer?. One person in the audience stated
that some parents don't want their children going to the Hester Center.
Discussion ensued on various means to keep the children busy during the
summer and Commissioner Fisher stated that all ideas and suggestions would
be welcomed.
A woman in the audience suggested that the City intervene and try to get Dr.
Voss to make the Rolling Green School available during the summer. She
pointed out that there are dangers to children in trying to cross Seacrest to get to
the Hester Center because of the tremendous amount of traffic. Commissioner
Fisher stated that he meets with City Manager Kurt Bressner every Friday
morning and this is one item that has been discussed to determine what
programs are available in this part of the City.
A gentleman in the audience requested that the machine that registers speed be
placed on 26th Avenue.
A woman reported that traveling along 26th Avenue to Miner Road, there is an
abandoned house that sits on the curve. Even though it is boarded up, people
can be seen coming and going from the back of the house and there appears to
be a great deal of activity taking place. Also, the property is a disgrace. Chief
Gage said he would speak with the Code Compliance Supervisor about this and
asked for explicit directions to the property. It was determined that the property
in question is located on 4th Court off Ocean Parkway.
Another woman reported that there is a house on 20th Avenue between 3rd and
4th where drug dealing is taking place. She stated she has made numerous
complaints and it is still occurring.
A gentleman complained about the drag racing taking place in the evening and
about the tremendous amount of noise emanating from the radios. Also, he
complained about the auto thefts from their parking lots. He felt as a deterrent to
auto thefts, the youth should be treated as adults and not juveniles.
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Chief Gage stated that recently a detective has been assigned to the County's
Auto Theft Task Force and they have been focusing on the chop shops in the
City. These shops pay the youth to steal cars and there has been a lot of activity
in the south end. Chief Gage said that convictions would be increasing in the
future of the chop shops themselves. Also, the State Attorney has advised that
now it only takes four convictions for jail time, as opposed to 16 in the past.
Ms. Zibelli inquired if a police sub-station could be located in this area. Police
Chief Gage pointed out that sub-stations are very expensive and in effect what
people are looking for is police presence, not just a sub-station. If a sub-station
were built, people would expect it to be staffed. Chief Gage said he would try to
provide more police visibility in the area.
Mr. Friedland inquired about the status of the Wrice Program that took place a
few years ago. Chief Gage reported that Dr. Herman Wrice, the originator of the
program, passed away about a month ago. The program in effect is a
community-based program, which includes forming strong partnerships with the
community. The police can't do it all and the community needs to help out. Chief
Gage said this program was initiated before he came to Boynton Beach and
there were complaints that the program came from the City and not the
community. There were problems in getting community leaders involved
because it was an issue introduced by the Police Department and the City. This
type of initiative has to be grassroots.
A woman noted that once Officer Vargas left the area, things changed and Chief
Gage responded that good police officers become successful and move on to
specialty units. Chief Gage requested that the residents try to bond with the
officers that have taken Officer Vargas' place and that is the purpose of
introducing Officer Deale tonight, who is assigned to this area on a regular basis.
Also, Chief Gage reported that all neighborhood associations are encouraged to
invite an officer to their meetings and all that is necessary is to telephone the
Watch Commander. All supervisors in the Police Department must attend a
minimum of two meetings per month. This gives the police an opportunity to
meet the people and discuss issues with them.
A gentleman asked why Chief Gage doesn't ask for a sub-station in his budget.
Chief Gage pointed out that this was suggested at one of the CIP meetings and
he is putting this request into the CIP budget.
Discussion took place on finding another meeting place in the City and the costs
involved for use of a building. A gentleman asked if any plans had been made
to replace the Royal Palm Clubhouse? Commissioner Fisher said that various
alternatives are being looked at and that he has discussed it with Mr. Bressner.
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A woman also noted that there was a building that could be available that is
located at the corner of 26~h and Seacrest and Commissioner Fisher said he
would check into this.
A question was asked what type of programs the Police Department is involved
in with the teenage community and Chief Gage pointed out the PAL Program is
active throughout the City. He pointed out that most children involved in the PAL
Program are from the north end of the City. There are various activities for the
children to become involved in.
A question was asked if the ice hockey rink was still being built, and Chief Gage
responded that one of the backers withdrew and the property will now have
another use instead of a hockey rink.
A woman stated she contacted the Code Compliance Department to inform them
about the trees along NE 4th Street that have grown out into the street and to
date nothing has been done. Chief Gage said he would follow through with this.
Chief Gage reported on the PAL Program and noted recently that the children
participated in two statewide competitions and last week competed in a
nationwide competition. Two children in the Program finished with third place
trophies in track and field and the remainder of the children finished in either first
or second place and performed tremendously. Chief Gage announced that
Officer Bill Tome, who is the PAL Officer, won the countywide program for child
advocate of the year award.
Commissioner Fisher announced that last month at the Volunteer Banquet, the
youth in Boynton Beach logged over 11,000 hours of community service and
there are a lot of great kids in the City.
A woman in the audience stated that a lot of parents won't send their children to
the Hester Center and that their children have been beaten up and attacked.
Chief Gage stated that Hester Center is not what it was a few years ago and this
is another perception issue. The crime issues that used to exist do not exist
today. The City now must try to convince people to come back and give the
Hester Center another chance. Commissioner Fisher stated that his daughter
would be attending the summer camp on Seacrest this summer and he feels
comfortable sending his daughter there.
Mr. Friedland complimented the Police Chief, Fire Chief and new City Manager
and feels the City is in good hands.
A woman complained about the new lighting on Gateway and said it is not bright
enough. It was noted that the lighting on Gateway is not fully completed which
should brighten up the area when finished.
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Discussion next took place on the number of accidents at Gateway and 1-95 that
occur and Chief Gage stated a great many of these result from people running
red lights.
A woman in the audience pointed out that they don't always receive the
published communications from the City on what is going on. Also, she
requested that when the Visions, Views and City News comes out that it also be
in Spanish. Mr. Fisher said that this could pose a problem with mailing and how
do you determine who gets a Spanish edition, as opposed to an English edition.
City Manager Bressner suggested that a smaller quantity could be printed up in
Spanish.
Commissioner Fisher asked City Manager Bressner if he wished to address any
comments brought up this evening. Mr. Bressner stated it is important to focus
on assets in terms of facilities, people and resoumes. He also felt that the issues
raised tonight were serious issues that need to be addressed. Problems are not
always solved just by throwing money in, but involves engaging people and
bringing them together to deal with issues. Mr. Bressner noted that the City
needs to do some outreach to the School District in order to get Rolling Green
School opened up and the School could be the answer to the needs in the area.
Also, the shortage of meeting places in the City needs to be addressed. Mr.
Bressner informed the audience that there is active discussion taking place on
replacing the Royal Palm Clubhouse.
Commissioner Fisher also stated that anyone can call him with any problem or
issue they would like to discuss.
A woman asked how closely does the City work with the Chamber of Commerce.
Chief Gage reported that many staff members routinely attend Chamber
functions. She also asked if the City was involved in any programs that the
Chamber sponsors? City Manager Bressner reported that the City will becoming
involved in a mentoring program, which will allow city employees and private
industry employees an opportunity to participate in a mentoring program with the
schools. Mr. Bressner felt there is a renewed partnership between the City and
Chamber of Commerce.
Also, Mr. Bressner noted that the Literacy Foundation has a program where
volunteers assist with helping not only children, but adults learn to read. Mr.
Bressner stated he is putting together an assets map of the City to identify all the
programs, service, activities, etc. that are offered within the City.
Mr. Friedland thanked Commissioner Fisher for bringing this program to Village
Royale on the Green.
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There being no fudherbusiness, the meeting adjourned at8:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara M. Madden
Recording Secretary
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