Minutes 06-05-86MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
MEETING HELD IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, ON
THURSDAY, JUNE 5, 1986 AT 7:30 P. M.
PRESENT:
Walter "Marty" Trauger
Chairman
simon Ryder
George deLong
John Pagliarulo
Robert Wandelt
Marilyn G. Huckle
William Schultz, Alternate
Carmen Annunziato
Planning Director
Tim Cannon
Senior city Planner
Jim Golden
Assistant city Planner
ABSENT:
Garry Winter
vice Chairman (Excused)
Norman Gregory, Alternate
Chairman Trauger called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
The meeting proceeded with Chairman Trauger introducing the
members of the Board and the Recording Secretary. He
recognized the presence in the audience of the vice Mayor
Carl zimmerman.
READING AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The reading and approval of the minutes will be postponed
until the regular meeting of the Planning and zoning Board
which is scheduled for June 10, 1986.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Annunziato noted the Board must take additional actions
with respect to recommendations.
COMMUNICATIONS
None.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
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NEW BUSINESS
A. PUBLIC HEARINGS
LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT AND REZONING
1. PROJECT NAME:
Cross Creek Centre
AGENT:
Kevin McGinley
OWNER:
Steven Rhodes, Trustee
LOCATION:
North side of West Boynton Beach
Boulevard, east of Congress
Avenue.
DESCRIPTION:
Request for an amendment to the
Future Land Use Element of the
Comprehensive Plan from High
Density Residential to Local
Retail Commercial and rezoning
from R-3 Multi-Family
Residential to PCD (Planned
Commercial Development District)
for the purpose of allowing
construction of a mixed use
office/commercial development
consisting of a 20,000 square
foot commercial building and a
15,000 square foot office
building.
Mr. Golden stated this request is being submitted by Kevin
McGinley, Agent for Steven Rhodes, Applicant and Trustee.
In regard to the surrounding land use for this project, Mr.
Golden noted to the west is the Villager Shopping Center
which is zoned C-3, Community Commercial. To the northwest
are two large single family lots about 1.88 acres, zoned
R-1AA, Single Family ReSidential, and is the subject of the
second rezoning request on the Agenda. Immediately to the
north, across a 120 foot right-of-way for the L-24 Canal, is
Venetian Isle subdivision, consisting of single family homes,
and is zoned R-1AA. To the east is the E-4 Canal. Farther
to the east, across the canal, is a vacant parcel, which is
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zoned R-3, and is approximately sixteen acres. To the
south, across Boynton Beach Boulevard, is Leisureville Lake
Condominiums, which is zoned R-3, Multi-Family Residential.
Mr. Golden advised the present R-3 zoning would allow for
the development of 42 multi-family dwelling units, including
apartments, condominiums, townhouses, and their attended
recreational facilities. In addition, he reported this
zoning also includes all uses permitted in the single
family and duplex R-2 zoning districts, subject to the
applicable building and site regulations. Additional uses
permitted in the R-3 zoning are subject to conditional use
approval, and include private clubs, lodges and fraternal
organizations, golf courses, swimming and tennis clubs, and
similar re~creational facilities, as well as rooming and
boarding houses.
Mr. Golden reported the Master Plan, submitted by the appli-
cant, proposes two buildings consisting of 35,000 square
feet of floor area. The breakdown for the two buildings is
as follows:
The building to the west is a 20,000 square
commercial which would essentially permit the
range of uses allowed under the C-3 zoning
district.
The building to the east is a 15,000 square
office building.
Mr. Golden advised both buildings are proposed to be one
story structures. Around the perimeter of the site, the
applicant has provided the greenbelt required by the PCD
Zoning Regulations. He stated there is a 25 foot greenbelt
along the north, and a 25 foot greenbelt along the east.
This is required since those two boundaries abut residen-
tially zoned property.
Additional requirements, along those two boundaries, include
a six foot high concrete block wall which would be part of a
site plan approval, if rezoning is approved.
To the south and to the west, a ten foot greenbelt is pro-
vided in conformance with the PCD zoning regulations.
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The PCD zoning district permits commercial buildings up to
four stories high, and would permit any use allowed under
the C-3 Community Commercial zoning District regulations, as
well as any other conditions approved by the Planning and
zoning Board. Therefore, the 15,000 square foot structure,
labeled as offices on the Master Plan, could conceivably
allow any use permitted under the C-3 zoning regulations,
unless the Planning and zoning Board and the City Council
were to limit the use of the structure to those permitted
under the C-1 office/professional zoning district regula-
tions. If this condition is placed on the office building
and rezoning is approved, as submitted by the city Council,
the applicant should be required to submit a revised Master
Plan document which would indicate the uses allowed for the
office building would be limited to those permitted under
the C-1 office/Professional zoning District Regulations.
The applicant should also indicate on the Master Plan that
the proposed development will have a height limitation of
one story. Mr. Golden noted that the one story height limi-
tation is inferred but not specifically spelled out.
Mr. Golden stated there are a number of Comprehensive Plan
policies which are relevant to this rezoning request. Those
Will be addressed in more detail during discussion of the
issues, and the list is provided in the report.
Planned Commercial Development Standards
Mr. Golden advised the following is a list of three stan-
dards listing the PCD regulations which effect the location
ability to service from a planning prospective:
1. Relation to major transportation facilities.
2. Roadway improvements and utility extensions.
3. Physical character of the site.
Mr. Golden noted the proposed PCD will conform to all these
standards. In regard to Number Two, Roadway Improvements,
the applicant will be required, if approved, to dedicate an
additional seven feet of right-of-way along Boynton Beach
Boulevard.
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The County Thoroughfare Plan called for a 120 foot right-of-
way from Boynton Beach Boulevard adjacent to this property.
The applicant will be required to dedicate 60 feet from cen-
terline for the ultimate right-of-way for Boynton Beach
Boulevard.
Currently, the surrounding roadway system has a sufficient
capacity to handle the traffic generated by this project,
with the exception of one lane, which is the link between
Congress Avenue and Military Trail on Boynton Beach
Boulevard. The County's Thoroughfare Plans for this year
call for the six laning of that link between those two
north-south corridors. If this project is approved by the
time this Certificate of Occupancy is issued, there would be
sufficient capacity to handle the traffic generated from
this project.
Economic Standards
Mr. Golden stated, in connection with the Planned Commercial
DistriCt Regulations, two types of economic documents are
required:
1. Market Study
2. Employment Projections
With respect to the market study, the study concludes that
the proposed'development is economically feasible, according
to the conclusions and guidelines listed in the report and
referenced in Exhibit F of the memorandum to the Planning
and zoning Board. According to the employment projections
submitted by the applicant, it is indicated that the pro-
posed project will employ 138 persons at buildout. Of this
total, 38 employees will be required for the retail portion
of this development, while 100 employees are expected to
occupy the office portion of this development.
INFRASTRUCTURE
Water Service, Sewer Service, Topography, Vegetation, and
Soils, Drainage, Roadway Capacity Analysis
Mr. Golden stated the infraStructure proposed for this pro-
ject, both existing and proposed, appears adequate to meet
the requirements of the City and other regulatory agencies.
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ISSUES AND DISCUSSION
Adverse Impact on Surrounding Residential Properties
Mr. Golden referenced the first issue to be discussed - whether
development of this property for commercial uses will have
an adverse impact on surrounding residential properties. He
stated it is anticipated the project will have an adverse
impact on neighboring residential uses, particularly to the
Venetian Isle subdivision and to the property owners in the
Leisureville Lake Condominimum development. Activities,
which would be incompatible with nearby residential uses,
would include noise from trucks, noise from loading and
unloading activities, noise due to unloading of dumpsters,
odors from dumpsters, glare from parking lot lighting,
trash and litter accumulation, and the unpleasant aesthetics
that are typical for the rear of a project containing retail
uses. It should also be noted that these impacts would be
minimized if the uses, permitted in the proposed PCD, were
limited to those allowed under the C-1 (Office/Professional)
Zoning District regulations.
Mr. Golden stated commercial zoning of this parcel would
also set a precedent for commercial zoning of the vacant R-3
zoned parcel located across the E-4 Canal to the east. This
would further exacerbate the impacts to surrounding resi-
dential properties, particularly in the vicinity of Old
Boynton Road.
Adequate Supply of Existinq Commercially Zoned Property
The next item referenced by Mr. Golden was whether there is
an adequate supply of existing commercially zoned property
in the vicinity. He stated existing C-3 zoned property in
the vicinity includes 59 acres of C-3 zoned property at the
intersection of West Boynton Beach Boulevard and Congress
Avenue, and 139 acres in the vicinity of the Boynton Beach
Mall, including the out parcels.
Based on this date, Mr. Golden stated it can be assumed that
there is currently an adequate supply of land for both
retail and office development within the vicinity of the
proposed PCD.
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In the future, it can be anticipated that there will be a
greater number of residents within a one-mile radius of the
subject property than at the present time. It can be
assumed, therefore, there will be an increased demand for
commercial floor space in the vicinity. As previously
noted, the applicant has submitted a market study which
indicates that the proposed PCD could be supported by the
surrounding market area.
Physically and Economically
Developable Under the Existing zoninq
The next issue concerned whether the property in question is
physically and economically developable under the existing
zoning. Mr. Golden stated, as outlined in the section
entitled "Present Zoning" in the report, the property could
be developed for 42 multi-family units under the existing
R-3 zoning. He stated the R-3 zoning district also permits
single-family homes, duplexes, and those uses listed as
Conditional Uses under the R-3 zoning district regulations.
Therefore, it can be concluded the property is developable
for a range of residential and recreational uses under the
exisitng R-3 zoning regulations.
Consistency with Comprehensive Plan
Policies for Location of Commercial Uses
The next issue concerned whether commercial zoning of this
property would be consistent with Comprehensive Plan
Policies for the location of commercial uses. Mr. Golden
stated that commercial zoning of the subject parcel would be
inconsistent with the Comprehensive Plan Policies for loca-
tion of commercial land uses. The Comprehensive Plan
encourages the development of clustered neighborhoods and
community commercial centers, and discourages strip commer-
cial development. The proposed rezoning, if approved by the
City Council, will reSult in the creation of a strip commer-
cial development. Commercial rezoning of the subject par-
cel will also be inconsistent, in part, with the policy of
encouraging development of commercial land uses where the
impacts on residential land uses are minimized.
Mr. Golden stated the question with respect to this par-
ticular Comprehensive Plan Policy is whether or not the
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impacts on residential land uses can be minimized. In this
context, there are a number of Comprehensive Plan Policies
that are relevant. Mr. Golden read the following relevant
policies:
To provide a suitable living environment in
all neighborhoods.
To preserve the present stock of sound
dwellings and neighborhoods.
To eliminate existing and potential land use
conflicts.
To encourage the development of complimen-
tary land uses.
To encourage the development of commercial
land uses where the impacts on residential
land uses are minimized.
To discourage the expansion of strip com-
mercial development.
Furthermore, Mr. Golden reported it could be argued that the
rezonings, if approved, would result in a grant of special
privilege to an individual property owner, as contrasted
with the protection of the public welfare, and would have an
adverse impact on property values in the surrounding resi-
dential enclave.
CONCLUSIONS/RECOMMENDATIONS
Mr. Golden stated that commercial zoning of the subject pro-
perty would be inconsistent with respect to Comprehensive
Plan policies for the location of commercial uses. Rezoning
would result in a significant change in the character of the
neighborhood and would have a negative impact on abutting
residential uses, particularly in the Venetian Isle sub-
division. Rezoning this property would also set a precedent
for commercial zoning of the R-3 zoned parcel which lies
across the E-3 Canal to the east, bordered by West Boynton
Beach Boulevard to the south and Old Boynton Road to the
north. This would result in a further change in the
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character of the neighborhood, particularly in the vicinity
of Old Boynton Road.
Whether the change in character is desirable is the
underlying issue in this rezoning petition. It is the
Planning Department!s conclusion that changing the character
of the neighborhood from residential to commercial is not
desirable, and that the property is developable under the
current residential zoning. Therefore, it is the Planning
Department's-recommendation that commmercialization of this
parcel not be allowed, and that the application for amending
the Future Land Use Element of the Comprehensive Plan to
"Local Retail" and rezoning to C-3, "Community Commercial"
should be denied. However, if the Board decides to approve
this request, in part or in whole, as outlined under the
heading "Project Approval", it is recommended that any
approval be contingent upon staff comments, as listed.
For the Board's information, Mr. Cannon denoted on the
screen where Hoadley Road intersects. Mr. Golden explained
that Hoadley Road comes down from Old Boynton Road and dead
ends, and to the left of that road is property owned by
Montgomery Ward, which is zoned C-3. Mr. Cannon stated the
C-3 zoned parcel owned by Montgomery Ward is 15.22 acres,
and the R-1AA is 1.8 acres in size.
Mr. Schultz noted the canal in that area is 60 foot wide.
He questioned the 120 foot on the other canal and the
O'Brien, Suiter and O'Brien survey. Mr. Cannon confirmed
the canal shown on the survey is approximately 60 feet wide.
The actual right-of-way from the canal is about 120 feet,
and the 25 foot is an addition to the midway of 60 foot.
Between the real property lines for the homes in the
Venetian Isle subdivision and the property boundary for
the PCD, there would be 120 feet plus 25 to the building,
considering the building setback to be 40 feet. Therefore,
it would 160 feet. Mr. Cannon noted to the south across
the highway is the two story Leisureville Lake Condominums,
and the Villager Shopping Center is located to the west.
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Applicant's Presentation
Kevin McGinley
1628 16th Way
West Palm Beach, Florida
Mr. McGinley introduced the members of his consultant team -
Mr. Eugene Lawrence, Architect, Mr. Ken Rogers, Civil and
Traffic Engineer, and Jim Fleischman and Richard Stocker,
Market Analysts.
He showed on the map the physical area of the property.
Mr. McGinley advised the property has over a 1080 foot fron-
tage along Boynton Beach Boulevard, and a depth of 160 feet
before getting to the L-24 Canal. To the east, there is a
180 foot right-of-way before getting to the vacant residen-
tial parcel. Abutting the property on the west side is the
Villager Shopping Center. He noted Mr. Golden had covered
most of the issues to be discussed.
Mr. McGinley stated they have met the intent of the PCD
ordinance and have demonstrated a strong market in the area
for their specific use. Water, sewer and utilities are
available and accessible. Environmental factors are
favorable to this type development. Drainage can be easily
provided, and roadway capacity would be in by the time the
project is completed.
Mr. McGinley stated he would review the market study for
this project, and discuss the development feasibility on the
existing zoning. At this point, Mr. McGinley introduced
Mr. Jim Fleischman, Market Analyst.
Jim Fleischmann
Land Research Management, Inc.
1280 North Congress Avenue
Suite 208
West Palm Beach, Florida
Mr. Fleischman stated he prepared the market study for the
project. He pointed out he would summarize the major points
of the market analysis and supplement the information pre-
sented in the market analysis in order for him to address
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Number Two and Three, on Page 7 of the Staff Comments.
would be addressing Issue Number Three first.
He
Mr. Fleischman advised Question Number Three concerns
whether the property in question is physically and economi-
cally developable under the existing zoning. He noted that
the staff's position is the subject property is developable
for residential and recreational uses under the existing R-3
zoning regulations. This conclusion, in his opinion, seems
to be based on the fact the zoning district will allow resi-
dential and not whether its uses are feasible in terms of
whether they will fit on the site, whether there is market
for potential residential uses, or what the prices of these
units would be.
Mr. Fleischman pointed out there are several other factors
in addition to zoning, such as the size and shape, con-
figuration, and location of the property, and the market and
development costs. It is his opinion that in the zoning
ordinance, there are only two potentially feasible residen-
tial sites for this property. He noted one would be
rental apartments, and the other would be condominiums.
In conversations with several major rental apartment develop-
ers in Palm Beach County, it was learned in order for ren-
tal apartments to be economically feasibly developed, the
unit cost has to be between $35,000 and $40,000 per unit.
In order for rental apartment projects to be feasible in the
market place in Palm Beach County today, the development
costs must fall within a range of $35,000 to $40,000 per
unit.
With this in mind, Mr. Fleischman prepared an economic
analysis of the site in terms of whether or not it was
feasible to develop a 42 rental apartment unit on site, and
reviewed land costs. He noted he did not use the land costs
that were being asked for the property at the present time.
He used what they believed was a reasonable land cost for
this property, and used a land cost which was much below
asking price for rental apartment property. He noted,
in Boynton Beach, residential multi-family land is generally
selling between $7500 to $10,000 per unit. He used a land
cost of $4,000 a unit, prepared a Profit and Loss Analysis
for 42 residential rental property, with land cost of
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$4,000. It is his conclusion it will cost at least $45,000
a unit to develop rental apartments on this site.
As stated earlier, Mr. Fleischman advised most rental apart-
ments developers believe the unit costs must range between
$35,000 to $40,000 per unit. Abiding by that conclusion,
Mr. Fleischman stated rental apartments cannot be economi-
cally built on this site.
Mr. Fleischman mentioned the second alternative was con-
dominium apartments. He stated he completed a similar
analysis in terms of trying to estimate the selling price
for condominiums on this property, if they were built at a
land cost ranging from $7,500 - $10,000 per unit, which is
reasonable in the Boynton Beach multi-family residential
market. He did a "bare bones" estimate of cost, that is, he
took a look at the site and came to the conclusion that he
could build 42 units on the site. He ran a cost analysis to
determine the minimum cost, eliminating the options of a
swimming pool, tennis courts, and other recreational facili-
ties of that nature. Their conclusion was that condominiums
would have to sell between $65,000 to $75,000 under the con-
ditions of the l~and cost reviewed, the cost of construction,
and overhead administrative costs.
Assuming that condominums be built on this site for $65,000
to $75,000, the developer would have to compete in the resi-
dential market currently in the vicinity. Mr. Fleischman
noted if you drive on Congress Avenue, north of Boynton
Beach Boulevard, you will find many projects, including
Waterview, Sandlewood, and Mahogany Bay. He noted they are
selling in the price range of $65,000 or less, and offering
project amenities, such as landscaping, garages, etc. On
that basis, Mr. Fleischmann did not believe these units
could be observed into the current conditions of the market.
As a result, the developer has come to the conclusion that
condominiums should not be marketed on this site.
Mr. Fleischman believed the two possible residential alterna-
tives on this si~e were rental apartments and condominiums.
Based on the feasibility studies, the translation of those
studies into rents or selling costs, and careful review of
the market, Mr. Fleischman did not believe this site has
the potential of being able to market any type of residen-
tial units.
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With that in mind, once the developer came to the conclusion
that residential units were not feasible, they took a look
at the commercial market in the vicinity, and came to the
conclusion that the convenience and neighborhood retail ser-
vice markets are extremely small in this area at the present
time.
Mr. Fleischman noted the Boynton Beach Mall is a special
case. It is a regional mall, and the rents are extremely
high, being much higher than the developer would anticipate
charging the businesses on his site. He eliminated the
Boynton Beach Mall and the Boynton Beach Promenade.
Mr. Fleischman noted when you take those two shopping cen-
ters out of the market, most of the remaining facilities are
either convenience type or neighborhood shopping facilities.
Mr. Fleischman had inventoried the vacancy rates and the
absorption rates, and came to the conclusion that the small
office service/retail market in the area is very strong. It
was estimated the overall vacancy rate in these type facili-
ties in the vicinity is only 7% with half of that being
located at the shopping center on Military Trail and Boynton
Beach Boulevard, where the old Grand Union was located. If
that facility is taken out, the vacancy estimate for local
space is about 3%.
Mr. Fleischmann reviewed the Gateway Center and the Forum
Shoppes to determine how fast they were renting their
spaces. He noted they were doing 3,000 to 6,000 square feet
a month which means they should be able to lease their spaces
within six to nine months, which is substantial for a local
retail center.
Mr. Fleischman's second conclusion was the market for local
retail service space was extremely strong.
In answer to Question Number Two of the staff comments, the
main question the staff was required to answer was whether
there is an adequate supply of existing commercially zoned
property at the intersection of Boynton Beach Boulevard and
Congress Avenue. The staff commented it is assumed there is
an adequate supply of property zoned for retail and office
development. Mr. Fleischman remarked there did not seem to
be any basis in the staff comments for this assumption.
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In Mr. Fleischman's opinion, that assumption can only be
derived after analyzing the following variables in the vi-
cinity:
1. Market for a specific development concept.
The size, location, and configuration of
the existing zoned parcels.
0
The economic feasibility of developing a
concept similar to the developers on other
pieces of property in the vicinity.
Mr. Fleischman noted the staff has commented there is an
adequate supply. After his analysis of the intersection,
Mr. Fleischman has come to the conclusion there are no other
parcels of C-3 zoned land in that vicinity that has the
capability or potential to provide the type center being
proposed. The development concept being proposed consists
of providing small local merchants and businesses reasonably
priced spaces for marketing of convenience goods and ser-
vices. This means the market bears the fact there are many
small businesses and! professional office type tenants using
1,000 to 2,000 square feet. He believed there is a market
available to provide spaces for small users and is very cost
sensitive in terms of rents.
Mr. Fleischman stated if you analyze the selling price of
most of the commercial land at that intersection, you will
discover the prices range from about $10.23 and up per
square foot for the land. In order to make a project
feasible at $10.23 per square foot land cost, you must rent
your space in excess of $16.00 per square foot. It was
their conclusion that the property being discussed was
purchased for a much lower land cost, and as a result, those
savings can be passed on to the tenants, providing a reason-
able affordable space to that particular segment of the
market will be available.
Mr. Fleischman noted on other larger parcels, such as the
Montgomery Ward parcel, the developers will charge the
tenants higher rents. The fact of land costs, the size of
the other commercially zoned parcels, and the probability of
the fact that local convenience centers are not going to be
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developed on other sites, he concluded the proposed site is
one of the very few sites remaining in the vicinity where
land costs and configurations are such that the local tenant
market can be targeted as reasonably priced.
Mr. Fleischman concluded the developer is disputing the
staff comments that there is adequately zoned property in
the vicinity.
Mr. Ryder noted the developer has gone through the trouble
of indicating that using this area for residential use would
be a problem. He noticed the developer had not indicated in
his report a good reason for the rezoning which would be in
the interest of the City and others. Mr. Ryder remarked the
developer did not indicate public need for commercial use.
One of the issues not mentioned is the impact on the
surrounding established residential neighborhood whether the
developer eventually develops this area for residences or
commercially. Mr. Ryder stated that was a very important
issue, and Mr. Annunziato's report indicates there is a
genuine concern about the impact on the neighbors.
Mr. Ryder noted that concern should be taken into con-
sideration. He commented that Mr. Fleischman did a splendid
job on the marketing research and the traffic study.
However, the facts remain there are many vacancies on
completed commercial developments. Therefore, Mr. Ryder
believed at this time it could not be maintained that this
project is essentially needed.
Mr. Fleischman remarked the only two centers that have any
substantial vacancies at this time are Gateway Center and
the Forum Shoppes. Mr. Ryder noted that the Boynton Beach
Plaza had vacancies at the present time. Chairman Trauger
commented the Boynton Beach Promenade had many vacancies at
the present time.
Mr. Fleischman replied he had explained to the Board when he
was reviewing the market study that he excluded the higher
priced centers because they were attracting a different type
of tenant. He was looking at the centers that would be com-
petitive with them in terms of the kinds of tenants they are
attracting.
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Mr. Fleischman agreed with Chairman Trauger's remark that
when vacancies are very high, such as they are in the
Boynton Beach Promenade, developers do make deals on the
rents charged. However, he noted that deals are only tem-
porary, and the tenants generally understand that factor.
He stated the vacancy rate, as he inventoried it, was only
7%. If you exclude the shopping center on Military Trail
and Boynton Beach Boulevard, the vacancy rate is only about
3-4%. The Gateway Center and the Forum Shoppes are in the
initial lease up-phase and are leasing spaces at a very ade-
quate and successful rate.
Mr. Ryder pointed out that Boynton Beach Plaza has a
substantial amount of vacancies for a long time.
Mr. deLong questioned Mr. Ryder as to the amount of vacan-
cies in the Boynton Beach Plaza. Mr. Ryder believed there
were about four to five stores vacant. Mr. deLong noted
that the 4% vacancy figure is about average for the area.
Mr. deLong asked Mr. Fleischman if he had a 172,000 square
foot on this site and building 35,000 square feet of actual
building. Therefore, the Board is looking at 20.23%
of the total project per actual building. Mr. Fleischman
believed that was correct, but was not sure. Mr. deLong
added that the Board is looking at 20-21% of the actual use
of this land for building purposes. Mr. deLong gathered
from Mr. Fleischman's conversation that he apparently got a
land steal or bargain compared to $10.23 per square foot
that was quoted earlier. Mr. deLong was concerned with
the statement that this property is not usable for con-
dominium sales or rental units. It would appear to
Mr. deLong if you could assume the real bargain would be
$5-6 per square foot, then the acquisition costs would be
about $865,000. If you could build 42 units on that size
property, your unit cost would be about $20,592 per unit.
Mr. deLong questioned the issue of build out and the cost
of construction per square foot.
Mr. deLong determined from Mr. Fleischman's presentation
that the feasibility study predicted $20,000 per unit for
land acquisition, and $28 per square foot, assuming a 1200
square foot unit. Mr. deLong commented this was a reason-
able estimate. Mr. Fleischman assumed condominium buildings
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would average $7,500 per unit and rental apartments about
$4,000 per unit.
Mr. Annunziato stated there is no question that staff is not
equipped to analyze market feasibility in detail as the
applicant is. He did want to bring to the Board's attention
several facts. The Planning Department was advised in 1979
by the Comprehensive Plan consultants that it would always
be easy to prove there is a demand for commercial space
because of the Boynton Beach Mall, particularly along roads
that access the Mall. The Planning Department was warned
that this would be an issue that should be given careful
attention because of the potential negative impact,
involving congestion on the streets and interface on long-
range uses. Obviously, this was something that was coming.
Mr. Annunziato referenced the potential for commercial
square footage based on vacant acreage, and commented this
is really a way to determine whether there is a need for
additional commercial floor space. He apprised the Board
that they will be receiving on Tuesday night a site plan
that has been filed, reviewed, and still has several site
plan problems connected with it. He noted the Board may
recommend it be tabled, but we are in the final stages of
processing the site plan which will show you about 165,000
square feet of retail. The point of the fact is that they
go to great lengths in advising that much of this will be
convenience groups because they request a 25% reduction in
trip generation rate and what they determine they will be
testing for second stop trips, which are convenience shop
trips. Therefore, the question whether or not there is
available retail floor space, we know there is. In addi-
tion, on the County's Comprehensive Plan, the entire area
between Boynton Beach Boulevard and Old Boynton Road, is in
a potentially commercial category. In fact, everything from
about 400 feet west of Winchester Park Boulevard eastward to
Congress Avenue has potential for retail commercial, as
to office and professional. All the properties
al Boynton Beach Boulevard on the nt side are also
go to be on the retail commercial ~tegory. These are
properties that are zoned commercial, and will be developed.
Mr. Annunziato pointed out this property is not the easiest
property to develop for residential purposes, but it has
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value to it, if not today, it will have more value tomorrow.
As traffic congestion increases, in-town locations are
becoming more valuable. It is an unusually shaped piece,
but Mr. Annunziato believed it is a problem that can be
mitigated with proper design.
Mr. Annunziato noted it is clear the Planning Department has
not gone through the market analysis that the applicant has,
but on the face of it, there is ample zoned commercial pro-
perty in the area, and probably will be for the next ten
years. At that point, Mr. Annunziato concluded we may be
looking at a different world.
Mr. deLong questioned the parcel Mr. Annunziato was
referring to in his presentation, Winchester Park Boulevard,
the total acreage there is about 23 acres. Mr. Annunziato
clarified it was about 60 acres. Assuming it is 23 acres,
Mr. deLong noted the property on the market would net $15.75
a square foOt to the owner, which is $16,000,000. He did
not feel there would be any convenient type stores in that
area. He believed it would be high-priced commercial pro-
perty because land acquisition dictates that it must be.
Mr. deLong questioned if he was correct in reading the Five
Year Program that Boynton Beach Boulevard from Congress
Avenue to Military Trail is going to be six lanes starting
this year. Mr. Annunziato stated they were very close to
having the permit issued for that construction. Chairman
Trauger stated the permit has been in the Department of
Transportation for the last four months, ready to go. As
soon as the permit is issued, the City was promised there
would be stakes in the ground within thirty days for six
lanes on Boynton Beach Boulevard. The bids have been
accepted for both four and six lanes. The difference be-
tween the bid price of the four laning to the six laning has
been promised to be picked up by Palm Beach County. The
only thing that is detaining it is the legality of who gets
the permit. Normally, they issue it to the engineer or the
contractor building the road. The Department of
Transportation has changed that and made a bonding part to
give that to Palm Beach County to monitor the contract.
That is where the hold up is. Chairman Trauger hoped by
Monday night's meeting, this will have been resolved, and
the permit would be in hand.
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Mr. Schultz referenced the statement that the developer was
attempting to come up with a price of under $16.00 a square
foot, and questioned the normal size of the bays.
Mr. McGinley stated the bays would be 1200 square feet,
measuring 20 by 50 and 20 by 60, standard size.
Mrs. Huckle pointed out the Planning Department made a
recommendation, in the event the Planning and Zoning Board
and the City Council were to approve the PCD, the developer
be restricted to office professional. Mrs. Huckle asked the
applicant's representative for his response to that possible
type of zoning in PCD, which would be strictly office pro-
fessional. Mr. McGinley stated they are requesting a por-
tion of the parcel to be office space and a portion to be
retail. The retail market is so strong that they would
prefer being part of the retail market. Whether or not the
property can support 40,000 square feet of office space is
something to be reviewed and recommended to his client, but
he still recommended that the owner pursue the retail use.
Mr. Ryder noted the trips per day would be much greater if
it goes retail rather than an office and professional. The
applicant realized that factor, and acknowledged they can
meet all the standards, as required.
Chairman Trauger questioned if there was only one curb cut
leading into the entire site. Mr. Annunziato clarified
there are two median cuts on Boynton Beach Boulevard with
existing turn lanes, one to the west and one to the east.
At this point, Mr. McGinley introduced Eugene Lawrence, the
architect and site planner.
Eugene Lawrence
Architest and Planner
205 Worth Avenue
Palm Beach, Florida
Mr. Lawrence pointed out, as was explained earlier, the
problem handed to him was how to make an effective mix-use
complex on this piece of property. He noted he does not
comment on the policies as to what use is proper and not
proper for architects. His job is to make the most success-
ful and attractive building that can be built, and that is
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what he sets out to accomplish. With a planned commercial
development, there Ks a requirement for a ten foot perimeter
on three sides, the front and the two sides, and 25 feet in
the rear. There are about 172,000 square feet of land on
this property. When you take just the greenbelt that buf-
fers the property, it amounts to about 34,000 square feet,
which is just over 20% of the property in buffer alone is
greenspace. If you look at the shape of the property, it is
an extremely difficult shape. As you loOk at the service
drive in the rear, there Ks also a 40 foot setback on the
property line, in addition to the 120 foot right-of-way, and
a 40 foot setback on the front from the street. Therefore,
you are automatically squeezed into a very long narrow
building configuration which, as architects, we do not like.
Looking to the west, he established a basic parking area
which would feed one major 6,000 to 7,000 square foot user
to the west. There is a single row of parking down the
street, which is broken in the middle down to a very narrow
space. He woirked the shopping bays off 15 feet because he
determined wilth smaller use tenants, they do not require
1200 square fieet. There are three different bay depths down
to the smalleist which is 600 feet. Therefore, the travel
agent or the service person is not stuck with a tab of 1200
square feet when he only requires 500 to 600 square feet.
Consequently, he can work the retail areas down as small as
500, 800, 120!0 square feet or bigger if the tenant desires.
Mr. Lawrence attempted to accomplish two things with the
price - to keep the base rent at a minimum for the small
merchant, and to give the potential merchant the size space
he needs for his business.
The next thing this arrangement accomplishes for the deve-
loper is a breakdown of this building mass into small pieces
so it is made into a little village. There is a buffer and
service behind, and a wall, 25 foot green strip plus the
canal right-of-way.
Regarding the office portion, Mr. Lawrence stated it is a
one story building and is set farther back from the property
line of the buffer zone so that everyone has a green space.
Mr. Lawrence explained as you look to the east, there would
be a canal view. Right in the middle of the property, to
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the west of the office space, where the green runs in
between, those are suites that open to a green space. This
proposed office space is for a professional, lawyer, archi-
tect, engineer or someone who wants a self-contained space.
Generally, Mr. Lawrence has taken the green spaces around
the property, and tried to capitalize on its use. He has
taken a one story building mass, and attempted to break it
down into smaller components so it is compatible with both
sides of the street. Mr. Lawrence personally believes, as
an architect, if you cannot design something that looks
better than the competition and still be in the price
bracket where you are not paying $18 to $22 a foot of
overrides, he did not believe the project would survive.
Mr. Lawrence reiterated this is a difficult piece of pro-
perty because it is so narrow and long. He believed this is
a solution that is compatible physically with the neigh-
borhood. As an architect, he could not comprehend four
story apartments on this piece of property because of the
high traffic road.
Mr. deLong commented, in view of the land acquisition costs
and based on Mr. Lawrence's comments, he believed the archi-
tect had plans of doing something unusual in construction
on this site. He questioned the type of construction which
was proposed. Mr. Lawrence described it would have a
pitched roof, not a flat roof, and something in terms of
clay tile or cement tile roof which is more residential in
character.
Mr. Lawrence acknowledged a strong philosophy, as an archi-
tect for twenty five years, that if you work hard at it, you
do not have to be cheap to be economical. If you work with
your structure, you can make something workable within a
reasonable economic framework. Mr. Lawrence referenced
Crystal Tree on U. S. 1, across from Old Port Cove, as one
of his projects. He believed it was unique. He saw the
term "strip shopping center" and commented that Crystal Tree
was basically a strip shopping center, but he was able to do
some things with materials and breaking that mass that made
it economically viable.
Mr. McGinley stated as far as consistency to the
Comprehensive Plan, he noticed on all the other roads
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leading out of the intersection of Congress Avenue and
Boynton Beach Boulevard, there is a physical barrier that
can be defined where the commercial property ends. If you
go north, it ends up at Old Boynton Road. If you go south,
you can see it going through Ocean Drive. However, for some
reason, it stops at the Villager Shopping Center.
Mr. McGinley suggested that the E-4 Canal is a logical place
to stop and is an existing physical barrier. Mr. McGinley
stated it was not necessary to consider this petition will
set a precedent for further development to the east.
As far as the precedent on the property to the east,
Mr. McGinley did not believe that was an issue since the
property to the east is much larger and has a greater depth.
The potential for residential zoning is much greater on that
site than on the subject site. He is submitting a PCD and
stating that the conditions will be complied with, and that
it will be landscaped and buffered. The applicant will do
what is necessary along the northern and southern boundaries
to make the project compatible with surrounding land uses.
Mr. McGinley concluded the Leisureville Condominiums have
commercial development along its western boundary, and it
appears to be working.
Mr. McGinley questioned if the high density residential
development would be consistent with the single-family
residential districts to the north. He suggested that a high
density four or three story residential development would
still have an impact on the single-family residential de-
velopment. Mr. McGinley stated he was proposing a single
story structure with adequate buffering that can reduce all
impacts, as far as physical and noise impacts from Boynton
Beach Boulevard and his project. The noise and visual
impacts will be reduced as a result of buffering the trees,
and they would be willing to be tied into those conditions.
Mr. McGinley asked the Board to consider approving this
package, as it has been presented.
Mr. Schultz noted the architect mentioned on two or three
occasions that the structure would not have a flat roof.
Mr. Schultz noted on many shopping centers that are being
built today, there are beautiful roofs on the front, and yet
3, 5 and 8½ ton air conditioning units are stacked on the
backside. He stated that is where, against a residential
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community, all the complaints originate. Mr. Schultz
questioned how the applicant intended to handle the back
roof. Mr. Lawrence stated usually the architect works a
flat roof, and then a truss is taken, sloped up and the
unit is set back under that, so the equipment is screened
from both sides. Mr. Schultz commented it was not only the
screening he was concerned with, but also the noise coming
from the units, and believed most people would be interested
in noise screening. He noted if the merchant is a small
restaurant, such as a pizza parlor, etc., the problem with
the back side would be the most important issue. Mr. Lawrence
stated, if this project gets done, and he is still the
architect, there is going to be site screening for
everything on the roof, minimum one to one.
Mr. Lawrence noted one of the other advantages of the
smaller shops is you wind up with 2, 3, or 5 ton units, as
compared to a large store where you need units to accom-
modate 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000 feet, and where you are
dealing with 50-100 tenants. Therefore, the site screening
can be accomplished.
Mr. Lawrence admitted sound can be controlled to a point.
You may have a vertical barrier that it hits that deflects
it, but it is going in the air. He believed at that
distance you would have more noise from the highway than
from the air conditioning equipment.
Mr. Schultz stressed the people do not want a situation in
which the building has a beautiful front view and its back
side looks terrible. Mr. Lawrence stated he agreed that the
back view is as important as the front view, and has
demonstrated this belief in many projects he built.
Mr. Schultz noted a smaller unit did not necessarily elimi-
nate the increased noise generation since there is a possi-
bility that a dry cleaning establishment with only 800
square feet could occupy the space, and it would require a
larger air conditioning unit.
Mr. deLong stated when an applicant is requesting a PCD, the
people should realize the amount of control the City will
have over what the developer does. He is concerned about
the view across the canal, even though it is 165 feet, and
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noted there are gaps in the barrier. He stated that people
in fairly nice housing do not want to look at plain cement
block walls on the back, while the front is embellished on
Boynton Beach Boulevard. He commented under the PCD, these
people would have more control than they would if someone
came in and developed rental units in which the City would
not have as much control. He noted the control would be
limited, and because of what they have to get in rents, it
could be something that might not stand for any type of
longevity as some of the Leisureville buildings have
withstood with time.
Mr. Pagliarulo referenced the architect's comments on single
story buildings, and questioned the anticipated height of the
buildings. Mr. Lawrence stated he normally tries to work
retail space with a clear structure height of about 14 feet.
Height is normally defined as the underside of the roof sup-
porting structure. He could expect on top of that to get a
pitched roof which would go very high, but the basic shell
would be a rough ceiling height of about 14 feet, which
would give the merchant a 4 foot finished ceiling height.
Mr. Ryder questioned if the applicant was aware that the PCD
provides for permissive uses the same as a C-3. This was
confirmed by the applicant. Mr. Ryder continued that there
was some agreement reached as to the limitation on height.
He stated from his past experience, some projects do not go
ahead after they receive a change in zoning. The City is
then stuck with something that includes permissive uses
under C-3. Mr. Ryder noted that this is something the Board
must think about because it has happened on previous re-
zonings. He commented, as far as retail, he is not convinced
that residential units cannot be built on the site. He
referenced the Leisureville Condominiums located across the
road from the proposed site. Mr. Ryder stated this is an
example of a residential building that backs up on Boynton
Beach Boulevard. He further stated that there are
problems existing now which are similar to what the appli-
cant wants to do which involves the Villager Shopping
Center, immediately to the west of this area. There are two
curb cuts located there, and that gets to be a problem
getting in and out. This project will complicate the
problem because it is a commercial retail use. He is not
convinced that it cannot be developed residentially. Within
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recent months, the Planning and Zoning Board have received
many requests for rezoning from residential to commercial.
Mr. Ryder has believed that unless a definite public need
can be indicated, he would definitely be opposed to such a
rezoning. Other cities along the Ocean are also taking that
viewpoint. For example, Delray Beach has planned to
discourage any change in rezoning residential to commercial.
He added that the City has adequate commercially zoned areas
underdeveloped which can be used for that purpose.
Mr. Lawrence stated he was going to address himself only to
the physical issues of this site, and asked if there were
any other questions in regards to the physical building
itself.
Mr. McGinley mentioned if the project was developed as resi-
dential, it would probably be three or four stories in
height. He wondered what type of impact that would create
across the street in Leisureville, and looking down upon
the units to the north. Perhaps with residential use on
this property, the temptation for using the waterways would
be greater. He believed there was a tradeoff that could be
made for the noise factor. He stated that some of these
noises would be present whether it is residential or commer-
cial due to the traffic. Mr. McGinley reiterated that he
would be more compatible with this proposed rezoning and be
tied to conditions that the Board would impose.
Mr. Ryder noted the proposed project would still exceed the
daily number of trips over any kind of residential develop-
ment. He stressed traffic issue was an important factor
because Boynton Beach Boulevard is getting worse all the
time.
Chairman Trauger asked if there was anyone in the audience
who would like to speak in favor of this proposal. No one
from the audience responded.
Chairman Trauger asked if there was anyone in the audience
who would like to speak in objection to this proposal. In
response, the following presentations were made:
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Ed Bernard
1253 Gondola Court
Venetian Isle Subdivision
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Bernard stated that within one mile of his residence he
can travel to any store to purchase anything without having
more retail stores. He stated it would be detrimental to
the environment, the birds, the alligators, and other living
things that-live in the canal.
Mr. Annunziato noted that Mr. Bernard lives adjacent to the
northwest corner of this property, and is property owner of
two other parcels in that area.
Jim Cree
1117 Lake Terrace
Leisureville
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Cree stated he lives across Boynton Beach Boulevard from
this property. He bought a two bedroom apartment in 1970,
and he must shut off the front bedroom. He cannot get out
of the driveway area onto Boynton Beach Boulevard because
there is so much traffic which is continuous all day long.
He stated there was enough traffic and the area did not need
anymore.
Mrs. Huckle questioned since he lived there, did Mr. Cree
think it would be a bad idea to have apartments or more
residences encountering this noise factor which he seemed
to be unable to tolerate.
Mr. McCree stated it was not a good idea to have commer-
cial stores on that property. Mrs. Huckle questioned
having more apartments similar to his. She asked Mr. Cree
if he could not hear or could not stand the noise from his
apartment, would it be practical to build more apartments
across the road. Mr. Cree stated he is not telling the
Board what to put there; he is saying there should be no
more traffic, and presently he cannot get out onto the main
road.
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Mr. deLong stated if apartments were built across the way,
his apprehension of what would happen would be similar to
what is happening on Seacrest Boulevard near Bethesda
Hospital. The traffic, which is nowhere near what it is
on Boynton Beach Boulevard, has adversely impacted that
area, and noted there must be at least twenty "For Sale"
signs in an area of five blocks. He noted if rental apart-
ments are built on the subject Property, they will probably
be low type rental apartments because anyone renting those
apartments or buying a condominium on that site is going
to observe the traffic and noise problems. Mr. deLOng
believed if you go for a project that reduces, the intensity
of the land use to this extent, and a project that is
controlled by the City Panner under the PCD, there will be
less activity. Mr. deLo~ about the traffic count
being different, but he know the number. He com-
mented in some instances there is a higher generation of
traffic in residential areas. Mr. deLong added this pro-
posed project is a large commercial develop-
ment. He that he should seriously
consider wh~ ¢ across the way by contrast to what
he thinks miight be ia, and might not be euphoria at
all with renital Units-acro~ the way. Mr. Cree thought it
would be all r one story buildings across the
way for lere would not be so much traffic
coming out Boynton Beach Boulevard.
Mr. Ryder believed the issue is this proposed project is
adjacent to an established residential neighborhood, and we
are concerned about the impact from commercial development
on this parcel. He did not feel it was up to the Board, at
this time, to try to resolve how it can be developed resi-
dentially.
Arthur Schorr
1111 Lake Terrace
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Schorr questioned if there would be a 7 foot roadway
needed on both sides of north and south Boynton Beach
Boulevard.
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Mr. Annunziato clarified, if the County decides to proceed
with a full right-of-way on that road, it would be the stan-
dard. He believed there would never be an attempt made to
secure additional right-of-way on the south side of Boynton
Beach Boulevard.
Understanding Mr. Annunziato's explanation, Mr. Schorr
stated from his back porch it would be 11 feet. He stated
he would practically be looking at a sidewalk and the road-
way which would only be about 6 or 7 feet away from him.
With the noise factor from trucks, his television is use-
less, and he wakes up from his sleep at all hours of the
night. He stated the noise cannot be handled with the
trucks at night, and he thought it would be unreasonable
to take 7 foot of his backyard. Mr. Annunziato stated that
was not suggested.
Bob Bosso
Representing the Villager Shopping Center
Mr. Bosso stated the problem is that the Villager Shopping
Center has only one left turn out for the cars going east
toward 1-95 or into town. With the proposed plan, there
will be a problem for cars exiting from his shopping center
and attempting to make a left hand turn toward 1-95 or town.
The cars have to wait until the traffic subsides, and it is
a very hazardous situation. Mr. Bosso noted customers have
apprised his tenants they will not go back to the shopping
center because this situation is too dangerous. With this
particular plan, there is an existing turnout which is 200
feet from the eastern edge of the Villager Shopping Center.
There would be traffic exiting 400 feet down the road, and
that is too close. If something could be done to stop traf-
fic in order for the cars to get out, Mr. Bosso's objection
would be relinquished, and there would be no problem. He
noted the proposed project has two turnout lanes, and
reiterated it is a very hazardous and dangerous situation.
In reply to Mrs. Huckle inquiry, Mr. Bosso reported the
amount of square feet for the Villager Shopping Center is
20,000. Mrs. Huckle asked if the extra parcel to the west
was part of the Villager Shopping Center. Mr. Bosso
explained it was not part of his property, and was a PDQ and
a Hoagie Hut. He stated he had one turnout lane, and noted
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there was no problem for the cars turning right. However,
many cars turn left, and it is difficult for them to get
out.
Joseph Amarlino
Representing the Coalition of Concerned citizens of Leisureville
811 S. W. 6th Avenue
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Amarlino stated the full voices of the residents and
taxpayers cannot be heard since more than 40% are away for
the summer. He believed any change of residential property
to commercial zoning should be denied and made to conform
with the State, County and City Comprehensive Growth
Management Plan to lower density wherever possible. He
stated the character of the community should not be
destroyed, and the values of property and homes should be
upgraded and enhanced with more people and families that can
support the existing overbuilt shopping centers, strip
stores, and one of the largest malls in Florida. The
Boynton Beach Park of Commerce was approved by the Boynton
Beach City Council and contains over 500 acres of strip
stores, office buildings, and hotels south of N. W. 22nd
Avenue and east of Motorola, west to 1-95. With the large
number of shopping centers in construction at the present
time, and commercial zoning already approved, he stated
this application is not needed. Mr. Amarlino concluded the
rezoning of this property should be denied for the good
health, peace, and tranquility of Boynton Beach.
Jim Torbert
Chairman of the Board of Directors for Leisureville
2399 S. W. llth Avenue
Leisureville
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Torbert stated it seems the City of Boynton Beach has
been going crazy within the last few years with commercial
development. As far as office space is concerned, there are
two large buildings being constructed on Woolbright Road,
and another on Boynton Beach Boulevard. There are several
lots on Woolbright Road that are designated for office devel-
opment. Mr. Torbert did not see any need for additional
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office development in a congested area along Boynton Beach
Boulevard. He felt the same about commercial development.
Up and down Boynton Beach Boulevard, across Congress Avenue,
and out west, there is commercial development. Farther out
on Military Trail and Boynton Beach Boulevard, there is a
tremendous shopping area. There is a mall. He stated it
appears there is overdevelopment at the present time for
commercial and office building. From that standpoint,
Mr. Torbert and Leisureville residents believe this proposed
rezoning request should be denied.
There being no further presentations in opposition to the
proposal, Chairman Trauger declared the PUBLIC HEARING
closed.
Mr. deLong agreed with Mr. Torbert concerning C-1 develop-
ment in Boynton Beach. He believed there was enough office
space for the next five years. For this reason, Mr. deLong
would be against a PCD and the rezoning of the property,
essentially to office use. He did not believe it was eco-
nomically feasible to go all office on this project, and
noted the developer must have some retail stores.
Mr. Ryder moved the application for rezoning of Cross Creek
Centre from R-3 to PCD be denied, seconded by Mrs. Huckle.
Chairman Trauger stated it was moved and seconded the appli-
cation for the request for an amendment to the Future Land
Use Element of the Comprehensive Plan from High Density, as
stated on the Agenda, be denied, and added to the motion
that the recommendations are inconsistent with the
Comprehensive Plan. The motion carried 4-3.
The following Board members were opposed to the denial of
the application:
George deLong
John Pagliarulo
William Schultz
Chairman Trauger advised the developer and the agent that
this application will come before the City Council on
June 17, 1986, in the City Council Chambers, at 8:00 P.M.
and as soon thereafter as the Agenda permits.
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A. PUBLIC HEARINGS
LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT AND REZONING
2. PROJECT NAME:
Boynton West Plaza
AGENT:
Edward Duggan
OWNER:
Harold S. Wenal, Trustee
LOCATION:
East side of Hoadley Road, north
of L.W.D.D. L-24 canal
DESCRIPTION:
Request for an amendment to the
Future Land Use Element of the
Comprehensive Plan from Moderate
Density Residential to Local
Retail Commercial and rezoning
from R-1AA Single-Family
Residential to C-3 Community
Commercial for the purpose of
allowing construction of a
stormwater retention area for a
proposed shopping center on the
west side of Hoadley Road.
Mr. Golden stated the subject property consists of two large
residential lots and occupies 328 feet of frontage on the
east side of Hoadley Road, and is immediately north of the
L-24 canal. The property is currently vacant. The proposed
use is for stormwater retention. The stormwater retention
would be incorporated as part of a proposed shopping center
located on the west side of Hoadley Road. Both C-3 property
and the R-1AA zoned property are currently oWned by the
Montgomery Ward Development Corporation.
Mr. Cannon pOinted out on the map the location of Hoadley
Road, C-3 parcel, and the two lots in question.
Mr. Golden stated the Contract to Purchase, held by
Harold S. Wenal, includes the two residential lots in addi-
tion to the C-3 zone parcel. In regards to surrounding land
use in zoning, to the west abutting the parcel is Hoadley
Road, which is a 30 foot right-of-way. Across Hoadley Road
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to the west is the 15.22 acre C-3 zoned parcel. Immediately
to the north are three single-family homes, zoned R-1AA.
The home which abuts the property, immediately to the north,
is on a ½ acre parcel. To the east, abutting the property,
is a 60 foot right-of-way, which is part of Venetian Isle
Subdivision. Across the 60 foot canal, further to the east,
are single-family homes in Venetian Isle Subdivision. To
the south is the vacant R-3 zoned parcel which was the sub-
ject of the previous rezoning request. To the southwest,
across the canal, is the Villager Shopping Center which is
zoned C-3. ,
Mr. Golden advised the present R-1AA zoning will allow for
the redevelopment of approximately six single-family lots.
Rezoning
Mr. Golden stated rezoning to C-3 Community Commercial will
permit commercial buildings up to four-stories high, which
could include shopping centers, business, and medical offi-
ces, banks, restaurants, nursing homes, and hotels.
Assuming frontage on Hoadley Road, the rear and side yard
setbacks abutting the residential properties to the northeast
and southeast would be 30 feet. In addition, a six foot
high concrete block wall would be required along the pro-
perty lines.
It is the applicant's desire not to develop this property
for commercial structures but rather to use it as a required
stormwater retention area for the shopping center across
Hoadley Road to the west. However, no method currently
exists whereby this rezoning request can be approved con-
tingent upon the applicant,s proposal to use this property
as stormwater retention. Approval of this rezoning request
would allow for the development of any use permitted under
the C-3 regulations. Under the C-3 zoning regulations,
approximately 20,000 square feet of the retail floor space
could be built on the parcel. Approval of this rezoning
request would also set a precedent for the rezoning of the
remaining three residential lots immediately north of this
parcel. '
Mr. Golden stated in the report, there are a number of
Comprehensive Policies which are relevant to this rezoning
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request. Mr. Golden will address those policies in the
discussion of the issues.
Adverse Impact on Surroundin~ Residential Pr~
Mr. Golden advised Issue Number 1 is whether development of
this property for commercial uses will have an adverse
impact on surrounding residential properties.
Mr. Golden stated it is anticipated development will have an
adverse impact on surrounding residential uses. This would
still be the case after taking into consideratiOn the zoning
code requirement for a 6 foot high concrete block wall bet-
ween commercial uses and residential uses, and the C-3
zoning district requirement for 30 foot side and rear yard
setbacks adjacent to the residentially zoned property to the
north, east, and south. Of particular concern would be
activities taking place to the rear of the future proposed
shopping center, in the event it is not developed and used
for a stormwater retention, as initially proposed. Those
activities would be similar to those outlined for the retail
portion of Cross Creek Centre - odors from dumpsters, glare
from parking lot lighting, noise due to unloading of
dumpsters, etc.
Mr. Golden noted that certain of these impacts would
possibly occur, in any case, given the existing zoning pat-
tern in the area, with Hoadley Road and a concrete block
wall serving as the only separation between the C-3 zoned
parcel and the R-1AA zoned single-family lots. However,
approval of this rezoning request would only serve to
exacerbate this situation. Furthermore, it would serve as
an intrusion of the C-3 zoning district into the R-1AA
zoning district, creating a situation whereby this parcel
would be abutted by residential zoning on three of its four
sides. If the property is utilized for stormwater reten-
tion, as proposed by the applicant, the potential exists
for this area to become a dumping ground and nuisance to the
surrounding residential property owners. Poor maintenance
of the retention area would allow it to become overgrown
with weeds and strewn with garbage, creating a breeding
ground and haven for rodents and pests, as well as an
eyesore to the community.
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C-3 Parcel Sufficient in Size to
Permit Development of Shopping Center
The next item concerns whether the existing C-3 zoned parcel
under the same property ownership is sufficient in size to
permit the development of a shopping center.
As mentioned with the Cross Creek Centre, Mr. Golden stated
the applicant has submitted the site plan which proposes a
shopping center consisting of 169,510 square feet of retail
floo~ spaCe. Therefore, it can be concluded that the
existing 15.25 acre C-3 zoned parcel would be sufficient in
size to permit the development of the shopping center.
Physically and Economically
Developable for Single-Family Residences
Mr. Golden stated the next issue concerned whether the
property in question is physically and economically develo-
pable for single-family residences.
As outlined in the section entitled, "Present Zoning" of the
report, Mr. Golden stated the property could be developed
for approximately six single-family homes.
Commercial Zoning - Consistency with Comprehensive Plan
The next issue concerned whether commercial zoning of this
property would be consistent with Comprehensive Plan poli-
cies for the location of and access to commercial uses.
Mr. Golden stated commercial zoning of the subject parcel
would be inconsistent with Comprehensive Plan policies for
the location of and access to commercial uses. The
Comprehensive Plan encourages the development of clustered
neighborhood and community commercial centers at arterial
and collector intersections. The proposed rezoning would be
inconsistent with this policy, as it would create a 1.88
acre C-3 zoned parcel that would be separated from the
existing C-3 zoned district at the northeast corner of
Congress Avenue and Boynton Beach Boulevard by the 30 foot
right-of-way for Hoadle¥ Road. Commercial zoning of the
property would also be inconsistent with the policy of
encouraging development of commercial land uses where
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accessibility is greatest, and where impacts to residential
uses are minimized.
Mr. Golden advised the proposed zoning would be inconsistent
with the accessibility provision as access to the property
would occur by way of Hoadley Road, which functions as a
residential street. If this rezoning to C-3 is approved by
the City Council, and if this property is incorporated as a
part of the future proposed shopping center to be located on
the west side of Hoadley Road, the applicant would be
required to abandon that portion of Hoadley Road that abuts
his property, as a condition of the site plan approval, and
would have to construct a continuous six foot high concrete
block wall along his property, where it abuts residentially
zoned property to the north, east and south. While these
measures would help to minimize the impact on the
surrounding residential properties, they would not serve to
eliminate the impact on the surrounding residential proper-
ties, given the potential for the types of retail development
permitted under the C-3 zoning, as well as the four story
height limitation.
In addition, Mr. Golden stated, if the rezoning to C-3 is
approved, and this parcel is not incorporated as a part of
the shopping center, but rather is developed as a separate
commercial project, access would be required by way of
Hoadley Road. Since Hoadley Road currently functions as a
residential street, it would not be appropriate to allow
commercial traffic in a residential neighborhood.
He stated commercial rezoning of the three residential lots
immediately north of this property would result in addi-
tional increases in the level of commercial traffic, using
Hoadley Road, which is a residential street. This would be
in opposition to the following Comprehensive Plan policies:
1. To provide a suitable living environment in all neigh-
borhoods.
To preserve the present stock of sound dwellings and
neighborhoods.
3. To eliminate existing and proposed land use conflicts.
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To encourage the development of complementary land uses.
To encourage the development of commercial land uses
Where accessibility is greatest and where impacts to
residential uses are minimized.
Mr. Golden stated it could' be further argued that the pro-
posed rezoning, if approved, would result in a grant of
special privilege to an individual property owner. In
addition, there would be an adverse impact on property
values in the surrounding residential enclave.
Conclusion/Recommendation
Mr. Golden stated the conclusion and recommendation from the
Planning Department is as follows:
Commercial zoning of the subject property would be incon-
sistent with Comprehensive Plan policies with respect to
location and also with respect to access. Rezoning would
cause a significant change in the character of the neigh-
borhood, and would have a negative impact on abutting resi-
dential uses. Rezoning this property would also set a
precedent for commercial zoning of the three residential
parcels which lie to the north of this property, and may
have an adverse impact on property values in the Venetian
Isle subdivision and the Velaire Plat. Whether the change
in character is desirable is the underlying issue in this
rezoning petition.
It is the Planning Department's conclusion that changing the
character of the neighborhood from residential to commercial
is not desirable, and that the property is developable under
the current residential zoning. Therefore, it is the
Planning Department's recommendation that commercialization
of this parcel not be allowed, and that the application for
amending the Future Land Use Plan to "Local Retail" and
rezoning to C-3, "Community Commercial," should be denied.
Presentation by Applican__t
Ed Duggan
H. S. W. Investments, Inc.
6350 North Andrews Avenue
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Mr. Duggan stated the sole desire of the developer is to
develop this land as a stormwater retention area only, and
have no desire to put unnatural above ground structures on
this piece of property.
Chairman Trauger questioned if a dike would be placed around
the edge of it to retain the runoff. Mr. Duggan stated
there were two possibilities. He would have to lower the
property and remove some fill to create a slope where sur-
face water can go to for retaining purposes, or he would run
french drains throughout the property, below ground, and
there is one out-fault point where it could go into the
canal.
Mr. Annunziato stated he had never seen french drains
installed on a vacant tract of land. It is an expensive
form of stormwater retention. From his experience,
Mr. Annunziato stated it is unlikely to find french drains
on vacant, open-tract area. In other developments with
vacant property, Mr. Annunziato has seen the vacant
property used for a wet or dry retention basin, and not
french drains because of the cost.
Mr. deLong stated the problem is there is no particular code
in regards to this item, and the danger is, if it can be
zoned to C-3, it can be used for C-3 purposes.
In reply to Mr. Pagliarulo's inquiry, Mr. Annunziato
clarified that one cannot use residentially zoned property
to enhance commerciallY zoned property.
Discussion continued among the Board members regarding
the coSt and installation of french drains.
Mr. Duggan stated this property would be incorporated, as far
as the landscaping, With the shopping center, and would not
be abandoned and would be maintained as part of the
shopping center.
Mr. Schultz stated because of the zoning requirements"that
it must be zoned as C-3, it would have the potential of a
shopping center on Hoadley Road. He stated he could foresee
a problem because of the way it must be rezoned.
Mr. Schultz clarified he was not against the idea of a
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retention basin, but the way it must be zoned.
agreed with Mr. Schultz' comments.
Mr. Ryder
Mr. deLong stated this is a highly different situation than
the earlier situation. There is no barrier, and it is right
on top of a residential area. Since the Comprehensive Plan
is so complete in alluding to holding stormwater drain water
because of the aquifier situation, he recommended the Board
should investigate the possibility of creating a special
zoning for this type of problem.
Mr. Annunziato stated the french drains do the same thing as
an open basin.
Mr. deLong advised they should not get into that kind of
expense, and the Board should try to find a way to please a
few more people, and see if some kind of codification can be
developed for this type of problem. Mr. deLong suggested
this issue should be further investigated.
Mr. Wandelt commented he would dislike living across the
street from a retention center.
Mr. Schultz questioned putting in a six foot concrete wall.
He questioned if we are trying to keep commercial out, or
residential out.
Mr. Ryder stated that in many cases it was found that a
vegetated barrier would do the trick. However, it doesn't
help. Cars' headlights shine into your home.
Discussion continued on the advantages and disadvantages of
six foot concrete block walls.
Mr. Annunziato advised there has been a desire for many
years to do something to physically separate commercial from
residential properties. He noted fences do not last.
On practically every parcel of land in excess of six or
seven acres, there is a stormwater retention facility on
site. He noted that is where it belongs, and does not
belong next to residential property. There isn't a need for
the zoning; there is a desire to reduce cost.
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Mr. Schultz noted the parking requirements for commercial
have been cut. He has noticed retention areas located in
front of commercial properties, and stated a good architect
could incorporate that into a pond, and if it is in his
front yard, he will maintain it to get customers.
Chairman Trauger read into the recOrd a letter from Edward
Bernard, 1253 Gondola Court, Boynton Beach, dated June 5,
1986, in reference to the application Number 2, proposing
zoning change from R-1AA to C-3 Community Commercial:
I wish to inform you that I live behind the
proposed commercial development, and object to
!the proposed rezoning because we purchased our
home precisely because of the qUiet nature of
the area as well as the removal of trees and
clearing of the land would cause a negative
effect on the amount of noise generated by
Congress Avenue following the removal of the
trees as well as having~anladverse eiffect on
the native Florida birds that enjoy the canal
and seclusion of the trees and grassilprovided.
Commercial traffic in our near viciniity will
increase the amount of air and noise pollution
on nearby Hoadley Road, iwhich at this time is
lightly travelled as a residential road.
Signed: Edward Bernard
Chairman Trauger read into the record a letter from Ann
Smith, 4 Velair Drive, Boynton Beach:
As a homeowner of 4 Velaire Drive, I feel
this proposed change would be detrimental to
our best interest. I believe the overall
property value of the neighborhood will
decrease and will allow access to an unde-
sirable element of society into our quiet
residential neighborhood. As further con-
sideration, I feel that when the property
west of Hoadley Road is developed, it should
be divided by a wall from the residential
neighborhoods to prevent the crossing of
undesirable elements, trash, noise, and
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rodents. I hereby request that the changes
proposed on the attached notice of land use
be denied.
Signed: Ann Smith
Chairman Trauger read into the record a letter from Eugene
Lafola, 1245 Gondola Lane, Boynton Beach:
I am opposed to the change in rezoning of the
parcels.
Signed: Eugene Lafola
Chairman Trauger asked if anyone would like to speak in
favor of this proposal. Hearing none, Chairman Trauger
asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to
speak in objection to this proposal. The following resi-
dents came forward:
William C. Pegerora
14 Velaire Drive
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Pegerora stated he lived northwest of the corner
on Velaire Drive, heading towards Hoadley Drive. He stated
he was not too close to the proposed stormwater retention
area, but close enough to be concerned over what would
happen with the proposed stormwater retention area - would
they use a french drain or would it just be an open ditch.
He believed it would probably be, because of cost, some type
of an open ditch. He felt that would be very objectionable
to his neighborhood. The foul smell that would be created,
the rodents that would invade the neighborhood, were some of
the reasons he objected very strongly to anything like that
on that particular corner. He added the proposed use
of the retention area would create in his neighborhood a
foul smell and rodents, and noted that so many commercial
developers do not give the care to the back of their deve-
lopment as they do to the front of their development. He
suggested they put ponds in the front of their development,
and stated that would be the proper place to put the storm-
water drainage for their development. Regarding the wall to
be constructed on the C-3 parcel, it is his hope that
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instead of a plain cement concrete wall, they use something
that would beautify the wall, in accordance with the City's
Beautification Program. More attention should be paid to
the back of these projects, especial
~ering on residential n~__z _ ly when they are bor-
.... ~uu~nooas. The wall could be
beautified with vegetation on the brick fence.
It was noted that the walls will be constructed of stucco
and landscaped.
John Butchercross
1210 Old Boynton Road
Poinciana West
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mr. Butchercross stated he is in close proximity to the pro-
perty. However, he stated while looking at the Board, he
could think back several years ago and remember when the
Board and Council agreed that someone did a very good job on
the zoning when they made a straight line down from Old
Boynton Road right to the canal. They have residential to
the east, commercial to the west. He stated the ~roperty,
which is proposed to be used as water retention, Ks not bad
property. People would build a house on it, but can't
buy the property. The property was sold to Montgomery Ward.
It is zoned commercial on the west and residential on the
east. This is another request to try to use the property
for something else. At that time, Montgomery Ward wanted to
use it as a parking lot, and the residents in Poinciana West
were very much opposed, and had a petition to that effect.
As a parking lot, there would be trucks going down Hoadley
Road as an access to their property. After hearing the
discussions, he stated he was in favor of everything the
Board discussed, and noted they were very knowledgeable and
to the point. He added that his residence is located in
that immediate vicinity. There are sixty units, and it is a
nice, little quiet condominium. He stated he has lived
there for twelve years.
Mr. Butchercross advised the rezoning would generate traffic
down through Hoadley Road. He concluded that parcel should
remain residential and not commercial.
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Josephine Bernard
400 Venice Drive
Venetian Isle Subdivision
Boynton Beach, Florida
Mrs. Bernard stated her daughter lives on Venetian Isle at
302 Venice Drive, which is opposite the proposed rezoning in
Application Number 1. She stated her son, Edward Bernard,
lives on Venetian Isle on Gondola Court, and his house is
located across the canal from the proposed retention area.
Mrs. Bernard pointed out Venetian Isle is unique. It is a
small island and a paradise. She worked very hard to get
down to Florida and move here. She stated it was a
beautiful place to live. Mrs. Bernard noted there were many
birds. There is only one entrance onto the island, and it
is a very quiet neighborhood. There are also alligators and
ducks. Mrs. Bernard stated it is a paradise. She appealed
to the Board, as a resident of Boynton Beach, not to squeeze
Venetian Isle with all this commercialization that is coming
around this residential neighborhood, and urged the Board to
consider her appeal because she and her family love where
they live.
Hearing no further comments in opposition, Chairman Trauger
declared the PULBIC HEARING closed.
Mr. deLong moved to deny the request for an amendment to the
Future Land Use Element of the Comprehensive Plan from
Moderate Density Residential to Local Retail Commercial, as
described on the Agenda, seconded by Mr. Pagliarulo. The
motion carried 7-0.
Chairman Trauger advised that this application request would
be in front of the City Council on June 17, 1986, in City
Council Chambers, at 8:00 P.M. or as soon thereafter, as the
Agenda permits.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the Planning and Zoning
Board meeting adjourned at 9:55 P.M.
Carol Ann Brown
Recording Secretary
(Three tapes)
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