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Minutes 05-27-86MINUTES OF WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HELD IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CONFERENCE ROOM, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, TUESDAY, MAY 27, 1986 AT 4:00.P. M. PRESENT Walter "Marty" Trauger, Chairman Garry Winter, Vice Chairman George deLong Marilyn G. Huckle John Pagliarulo Simon Ryder ABSENT Robert Wandelt (Excused) Norman Gregory, Alternate William Schultz, Alternate Carmen S. Annunziato, Director of Planning Tim Cannon, Senior City Planner Chairman Trauger called the meeting to order at 4:00 P. M. and recalled that in the Board's discussion of Areas, they were discussing lot sizes under Area 30. page 117 Area 30 East Side of U. S. 1, between N. E. 6th Avenue and the Boynton Canal Mr. Cannon informed the Members that he took a look at the maps which have the actual property boundaries drawn on them, and 80% of the lots along that frontage meet the C-3 zoning regulations (frontage and depth). Mrs. Huckle asked if they met the 15,000 square feet. Mr. Cannon answered affirmatively. When driving around Chairman Trauger thought they appeared small. ' Mr. Annunziato told the Members that the Property Appraiser's maps just show boundary dimensions. The lots shown on the zoning maps the Members had could be different from the actual property ownership. Chairman Trauger observed that the lots were little, and it bothered him. Unless people consolidated lots, as Mr. Annunziato had mentioned, he questioned how they would be developable in the zoning cate- gory the Board had them in. On the other hand, if they were consolidating lots, Chairman Trauger asked how they would set the Zoning Code regulations for those lots. When they went over this last week, Mr. Annunziato recalled that he had suggested the Planning Department would report - 1 - ' MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 back with an analysis of the actual ownership sizes, lot sizes, and forms of existing uses. Be thought with that in hand, they Would be able to make a better analysis. Chair- man Trauger reiterated his former Observation. Mr. Annunziato thought the lots were platted at about 5,000 or 6,000 feet. Mrs, Huckle interjected that was why they did not originally gotO C-3. FOr the public hearings, Mr. Cannon said the Planning Depart- merit would make a copy of that portion of the tax map so the Members could see where the actual property lines are. Mrs. HuCkie said that did not mean that was the way they would stay. Someone could sell the lots off, or they could be divided up. Out of 15 parcels along there, Mr. Cannon said only four of them would not meet the C-3 regulations, Mrs. BUCklie asked if he meant where they had been grouped together. Mr' ~Cannon answered affirmatively. For zoning purposes, it seemed to Mrs. Buckle they would almost have to put it on the SiZe of the lots. There was more discussion. Area 31 Property North of Four Seasons Retirement Bome Mr. Cannon said this is a vacant parcel immediately north of Four Seasons Retirement Bome. The Planning Department recommended that the majority of the parcel be rezoned from R-3 dOwn to R-lA because this is not the kind of neighbor- hood that would lend itself to apartment development. The Four Seasons is a developed, one story congregate living facility. It is low intensity, multiple family housing. To the east is a mobile home park. Mr. Ryder asked what happened to the development that was going to be west of the mobile home park. Mr. Annunziato replied that they never built. Mr. Ryder asked if this included that area. Mr. Annunziato answered, -In part." BOth Mrs. Buckle and Mr. deLong had a great objection to this. Mr. deLong did not think it was conducive to R-lA. AS much as she liked to protect single family deVelopment, Mrs. Buckle also liked to protect individual property owners. She did not think (1) that this particular spot was conducive to R-lA. (2) People who have an investment in multiple family useage lots would be very much uninterested in having this made R-lA. To Mrs. Buckle, putting R-lA useage on 20 acres of multiple family was like taking away property rights. She looked at MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 the property and did not think it was conducive to R-iA. Mrs. Huckle could not think of a place that would be better for multiple family with the mobile homes, retirement home and apartments. Mr. deLong agreed. ' Mr. deLong informed Mrs. Huckle that Four Sea Suns are apartments. Four Seasons is the retirement home. Next to the funeral home is The Lord's Place. Then there is the mobile home park, and then there are the railroad tracks. Mr. deLong did not see how they could push it for R-lA. Mr. Annunziato offered to the Members conversations he had gotten over the years about the property. Everybody who looks at it can only see subsidized housing. The prevailing thought for the past two years has been whether they could develop it with modular homes or put in a single family sub- division for single family purchase. Based on his conversa- tions, Mr. Annunziato said he would be very surprised if the property ever develops into multiple family. For some reason, the market is not working that way on that property. Mr. Pagliarulo looked at the property about a year ago, and it did not work out multi-family at all. Single family was about the best use he could get out of it. Mr. deLong asked if he was talking about financial feasibility and added that the property could be secured for about $3,800 a unit. He asked how much better than that he could do on multi-family. For some reason, from what people told him, Mr. Annunziato said it did not work for what you could sell the property for and what you could resell or rent the units for. He had never actually talked to Mr. Pagliarulo about this. Mrs. Huckle asked how many owners were involved. Mr. deLong advised that there is one owner on the 14 acre tract. Mr. Annunziato informed the Members that the property has been on the market for years, but the owners cannot sell it. Mrs. Huckle commented that then, the owners would not object. Chairman Trauger felt Mr. Pagliarulo should know. Mr. Pagliarulo said he had maps and everything, and he felt comfortable with single family there. That was his point to bring forth to the owner. The owner was asking top dollar because of the multi-family zoning but, in Mr. Pagliarulo,s opinion, it did not work out. Mrs. Huckle asked if Mr. Pagliarulo could not talk the owner into selling the property for a different price. Mr. - 3 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Pagliarulo replied that the man is willing to "bend over backwards.- There was more discussion. Mrs. Huckle asked about access to the property. Mr. Pagliarulo answered that it is a little bit of a problem. Mr. Annunziato said there would be access from the north because there is a publicly dedicated street. From the east, Mr. Ryder said there Ks no access. Chairman Trauger recalled they had this same argument eight years ago. There was more discussion. Mr. Pagliarulo observed that to the north, it is very nice, but the south is going down. Mr. Ryder remarked that access has always been a problem. Mr. deLong asked what kind of problem. Vice Chairman Winter remembered there was a gate, and they did not want to open up the street. Mr. Annunziato recalled the City staff argued that 17th Avenue should be open from 4th Street eastward. The Board granted a variance to not require the extension of 17th Avenue. From past discussions, Mr. deLong gathered that future sites are needed for low income housing and commented that would probably be the best area. Mrs. Huckle inquired as to whether the property owners were local or absentee owners. The two people Mr. Pagliarulo knew of are local. Mr. deLong thought the property was priced right and should move as a Planned Unit Development (PUD) now if it is ever going to move. He said maybe Mr. Pagliarulo was right. Maybe it would just be one great big slum. Considering that some of the owners are local, Mrs. Huckle felt they should be at the hearings and could voice their opinions. There were other comments. The main problem Mr. Cannon could think of was whether subsidized housing would create a conflict with people who live on the north or south. It seemed to him it would be a sore spot. This has come up several times in the last couple of years, and, for all intents and purposes, Mr. Annunziato commented that it looked like subsidized housing was dead, However, the problem is there and is growing, so there will be a public response. Mr. Annunziato explained and said probably, in ten years, they might see a reversal. ' Mrs. Huckle wondered what subsidized housing looked like and asked if it turns into slums. Mr. deLong thought there was less chance of it happening if they put it to R-lA than on - 4 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 a PUD basis. Chairman Trauger predicted it would not go down until the second generation, when it will become absentee ownership. Mrs. Huckle remarked that could happen anywhere. Mr. Cannon said the Planning Department would know the Board's concern, and the Planning and Zoning Board can vote on it. Area 32 Old Sewage Treatment Plant Mr. Annunziato informed Mr. deLong it is north of the Boynton Canal, at the northeast corner. Mr. Cannon told the Members this will be the location for the City's radio communications tower. It is also anticipated that the City Nursery will continue there and possibly expand. Mr. Cannon added that the City should clean the property up and make it as compatible with the surrounding property as possible. He informed Chairman Trauger that the Area will remain in the "Public Use" category. Page 118 Area 33 Vacant Land Within Boynton Canal Right-of-Way Mr. Cannon informed the Members that this is a substantial right-of-way between 1-95 and U. S. 1. The City does not know what South Florida Water Management District's (SFWMD) plans for this property are but was stating that if and when SFWMD ever decides to dispose of the property, single family zoning should apply to the north of that right- of-way. Chairman Trauger commented that it would make waterfront lots. Mr. Annunziato pointed out that there is enough land to be developed. Mr. deLong thought it would also be a good recreation area. Mr. Cannon said the Planning Department also made that comment. Mr. Cannon believed that the City was attempting to acquire property on the south side of the canal, in Laneharts Sub- division, which may satisfy some of the demands for a water based recreation area. He informed Mrs. Huckle that SFWMD is the owner. Mr. Annunziato thought the LWDD also had a right-of-way through there, but it is in public ownership. Mrs. Huckle asked how they would go about turning it into private property. Mr. Annunziato guessed it would take a - 5 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 determination of (1) a surplus and (2) a determination to market by the governmental agencies. Area 34 North Seacrest Blvd. between Boynton Beach Blvd. and Boynton Canal Mr. Cannon said this is the frontage on Seacrest. The Planning Department is making the observation that there is already adequate commercial zoning along that frontage. The west side of Seacrest from Boynton Beach Boulevard to 8th Avenue is already zoned "Commercial,,. There is also commercial property along 10th Avenue. Most of the existing property zoned "Commercial,, is not developed. When Seacrest Boulevard is widened north of the canal, Mr. Cannon said they may get additional traffic and pressure to zone the entire frontage commercial. One thing Mr. Annunziato said the Board had to continue to be watchful of was strip commercial zoning on Seacrest. Nothing takes away the capacity of a right-of-way quicker than that because of the tremendous number of curb cuts. It is something the Board should always continue to be aware of. Mrs. Huckle questioned the last sentence and read: "The City should support the rezoning of this entire block to multiple family zoning, if all of the lots on this block are combined into a single parcel." Mr. Cannon clarified that if you notice the convenience stores on the west side of Seacrest, just north of the Boynton Terrace apartments, the row of lots that the stores occupy is zoned for multiple family. However, Mr. Cannon believed they only had a depth of 120 feet. The Planning Department was suggesting that if that property plus the triangular block behind it, could be combined, it might be a developable site for apartments. Right now, Mr. Cannon did not suspect that the convenience stores on the west side of Seacrest would ever be developed for residential uses because it is only about 120 feet deep. You might have a developable lot if the property behind it is also rezoned to multiple family. Mr. Cannon explained that this was sort of a conditional recommendation if somebody bought all of those lots. ' Mr. Annunziato showed Mr. deLong the location of the block and said it was near the cemetery portion of Sara Sims park, on the south side. - 6 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 There was discussion about Bob Beane's lots, which are in front of Boynton Terrace Apartments. Mr. Annunziato said they are zoned "Commercial,,. If it was not possible to put this into a single parcel, Mrs. Huckle asked what the Planning Department would recommend. Mr. Cannon answered that they would recommend that the R-3 zoning continue there. Right now, only the lots that front on Seacrest are zoned R-3. The lots to the west are now zoned single family. Mr. Pagliarulo asked if Mr. Cannon was saying they also want to rezone the lots where the stores are to R-3. Mr. Annunziato replied that they are already zoned R-3. Mr. Pagliarulo asked if they were commercial now because of the previous owners. Mr. Cannon advised that they would not be allowed to expand and agreed with Mr. Pagliarulo that they are only allowed to deteriorate. Mr. deLong remarked that was one of the big problems with phasing them out that way. Mr. Cannon knew the property was zoned "Commercial,, in the early 70s. If that entire block is developed for apartments, Mr. Cannon suggested that it might provide some incentive for removing the little stores. Chairman Trauger recalled a lady saying she was going to put a store on 10th Avenue and asked what happened to her. Mr. Annunziato informed him that the lady did modify a building and is going to do structural mechanical and electrical corrections. ' , Page 119 Area 35 South Seacrest Blvd. Between Boynton Beach Blvd. and Woolbright Road It was recommended that this stay in a "Residential,, category. From time to time, Mr. Cannon said they get inquiries about rezoning that frontage to "Commercial,,, particularly for small offices. The Planning Department is saying that office development should be concentrated in the Central Business District (CBD). Any rezoning along that frontage on Seacrest will detract a demand from the CBD. Last week, Chairman Trauger was driving street by street, back and forth, and a couple of those streets are very nice. - 7 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Others are going downhill rapidly, and he thought it was because of absentee ownership and a lot of rentals. Mr. Pagliarulo was informed by Mr. Cannon that the zoning there now is R-2. Mr. Annunziato estimated eight or ten duplexes were built since this zoning change went in. It seemed to have stabilized, but there is not that much vacant property. Mr. deLong asked if this went up to the water plant. Mr. Annunziato replied that it does not It stops 1/2 block north of Woolbright. ' Area 36 Residential Parcels in Vicinity of Old Boynton Road and New Boynton Road, Between Interstate 95 and Co__~ress Avenue Mr. Cannon said this is another area where they see the potential for strip, commercial zoning. The Board will be hearing an application on this. On the south side, Mr. Ryder said you have Leisureville Condominiums° What he saw there was "Residential,,, but access should be from Old Boynton Road, not from Boynton Beach Boulevard. He was talking about the piece west of the E-4 Canal. Mr. Annunziato did not think you could get there from Old Boynton Road. Mr. Ryder said the access could be by way of Hoadley Road. Mr. Annunziato said he would have to take a look at it. Mr..Annunziato said they have an application on hand for the property between the Villager and the E-4 Canal, north of Boynton Beach Boulevard. The existing zoning is multi- family. He did not think they were proposing any changes in the zoning. Mr. deLong really did not see that as anything but a commercial piece. If the Board decides next week that the Planned Commercial Development (PCD) on the north side of Boynton Beach Boulevard should be commercial property, that would be incorporated into the Board's recommendations to the Council. Mr. Ryder said there are only two entrances from Boynton Beach Boulevard. He thought they should keep it multiple residential, but they should back up on the Boulevard and not face it. - 8 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Mrs. Huckle asked what kind of development is being proposed on this at the Board's next hearing. Mr. Cannon answered, that it will be a strip shopping center, but part of it will be office and part of it will be retail. He confirmed that Mrs. Huckle was correct in saying it was currently R-3 zoning. Mr. Annunziato added that it was the parcel west of the E-4 Canal. Mr. Ryder commented that Jefferson's was going to go there. There were various comments by the Members. The reason Mr. deLong thOught it should go "Commercial,, was because "Commercial,, is to the west of it; "Commercial,, is to the southwest of it; and "Commercial,, is to the northwest of it. Mr. Annunziato did not think they should be arguing the merits of the application until the public hearing. Mr. Annunziato told the Members there is a lot of pressure to rezone all of that vacant property "Commercial',. At the intersections, Mr. Ryder said there is no quarrel with that. That was why it was favored at intersections of major arteries, but then there are questions as to how far you carry it away from there. That was the travesty Mr. deLong could see. When you leave something like Woolbright Road residential, they turn into dumps because nobody wants to build that close to what is established as commercial on interchanges. Area 37 Property on Northeast Corner of Old Boynton Road ~ress Avenue When they first discussed the Land Use Element, as far as changing the single family district to low density, Mr. Cannon recollected they were stating this was the one exception and that it should stay at the moderate density of 7.26 dwelling units per acre. There will be an application to develop at least part of this property for .commercial uses. Mr. Ryder asked if the Planning Department advocated that. Mr. Cannon replied that they do not think the road capacity will be there in either Boynton Beach Boulevard or Congress Avenue. It may be possible that with the acquisition of an additional right-of- way on Congress Avenue, either by the County or if the developer of this property would be willing to purchase that right-of-way, that commercial development may be possible on this property. That would be if the traffic impacts are found to be acceptable. - 9 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Mr. Cannon emphasized that it was hard to say at this point and that the Planning Department was just making general recommendations at this point that the property be developed as a planned development as opposed to a piecemeal develop- ment. If the property is developed for commercial use, it was recommended that there not be access coming onto Old Boynton Road across from the residences, which are on the south side. Mr. Annunziato informed Mr. Ryder the width of Old Boynton Road is 80 feet. Mr. Ryder commented that it would have to be widened, and Mr. Annunziato added that it will be a substantial problem. Chairman Trauger noted it is not in the five year plan. Mr. Annunziato advised there are no plans to enhance Old Boynton Road. Chairman Trauger remarked that they want to resurface it. Mr. Ryder drew attention to the fact that it will be a busy approach to the Mall. Chair- man Trauger told Mrs. Huckle it is a County road. Old Boynton Road will be widened eventually, but Mr. Cannon believed the schedule for just the engineering was not projected until 1990. Mr. Cannon said this is the last major parcel in the entire City, and its future is still in question. Mr. Ryder asked if they were talking about all the way to Motorola from the Canal. Mr. Annunziato informed him it was 104 acres and said it goes from Old Boynton Road, north to the Boynton Canal, between Congress Avenue and the E-4 Canal. There was nothing to say it could not be successfully developed as "Residential,, if it could be bought for less than $20,000,000. Mrs. Huckle asked who owns the property and was informed by Mr. Annunziato that Mr. Winchester,s father-in-law, Ernest Klatt, owns it. Mr. Ryder said there is a lot of pressure because it is in the vicinity of the Mall. It will not be like Congress Avenue between 22nd Avenue and Hypoluxo Road. Mr. Annunziato said there will be a lot of pressure, but the day may have passed when a more intensive category can be placed on that property. Mrs. Huckle suggested a nice nursing home. Mr. Annunziato said somebody could create some nice home sites with frontage on the E-4 Canal and have more intensive uses on Congress Avenue. He did not think it should be a commercial or industrial category Chairman Trauger thought they would see a lot of pressure and asked how much commercial they could get as a developer. Mr. Annunziato replied that they probably would have to answer that question in a year or two. - 10 - ' MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 ~age 120 Area 38 Property on Northeast Corner of Golf Road and Congress Avenue Mr. Ryder commented that the First Baptist Church is the owner of this property and was supposed to come in here. Mr. deLong thought they sold it. There was discussion that it was tied up in the Tradewinds and Mr. Ryder mentioned Norman Michael trying to get his property zoned "Commercial', and being turned down time and time again. Area 39 Property on Southeast Corner of Golf Road and Congresa Avenue Mr. Cannon commented that Areas 38 and 39 go together. Ryder agreed and remarked that what happens to one will happen to the other. Mr. The Planning Department recommended that the out parcel of Leisureville (the First Baptist Church property) and the western half of the vacant property on the southeast corner (Norman Michael's property) be rezoned to multiple family. Mr. Cannon said the department thinks this would be the appropriate zoning in that Cedarwood Villas (now Christian Villas) to the north and Golfview Harbour Estates to the south are multiple family. To the west is Savannah Place, which will be multiple family development. Mr. Annunziato advised that Savannah Place will be coming back .for a master plan modification, and the Board may want to say something about increasing the recreation. He informed the Members that the City is carrying a development bond on that property now. The owners decided not to go ahead. Chairman Trauger recalled this was started in 1971. There was discussion about Norman Michael and what he is doing. When you look at land use files, Mr. Annunziato said these uses make sense, but there will be a lot of desire on the part of the residents in the area to keep the uses single family. Chairman Trauger referred to the single family houses that were just built in Section 10 of Leisureville and asked if they had been sold. Mr. Ryder replied that they did not go too quickly, but he thought they had been sold. Chairman Trauger thought that gave an indication for the rest of that property. - 11- MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 The way the property is configured in both instances, Mr. Annunziato said there is constant pressure to put a commer- cial zoning category on that. The multi-family reflects a dominant land use on Congress Avenue, but this will be controversial because of single family homeowners, particu- larly in Golfview Harbour. They will be very vocal. Mr. deLong thought there was enough commercial immediately in that area. Mr. Annunziato added that it is residential and should remain so. Mrs. Huckle was informed that the current zoning there is R1AA. Mr. Annunziato said a nursing home would have been the perfect answer for that corner. Mr. deLong interjected that the people of High Point are talking quite differently now. The ACLF facility was the best use of the property for their own benefit and now the people of High Point agree. ' Mr. Ryder commented that The Landings and Mahogany Bay look terrible and there was some discussion about them. Area 40 Industrial Property Fronting on East Side of South Congress Avenue Mr. Cannon said this Area reiterates a policy the Planning Department has been implementing ever since that corridor along South Congress Avenue started developing. They have been requiring that developers along that corridor face their garage doors and loading areas away from Congress Avenue. Mr. Ryder thought it was a great idea. Area 39 Mrs. Huckle called attention to the reference to Areas 35 and 36 in this paragraph. Mr. Cannon noted they were errors and advised that Area 35 should be changed to Area 38 and Area 36 should be Area 39. Area 41 Residential Properties in the Vicinity of Golf Road and Seacrest Boulevard Mr. Cannon drew attention to the one out parcel immediately at the corner of Seacrest Boulevard and Golf Road, between Miss Little's Nursery School and Seacrest Boulevard. The Planning Department recommended that parcel be rezoned from R-2 to C-l, as those three lots are really walled off from any residential use. - 12 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 There was discussion about the northwest corner of Seacrest Boulevard and Golf Road. Chairman Trauger thought First Bank owned that entire tract. Mr. Annunziato said it was only a temporary facility. Mr. Pagliarulo informed the Members that the bank has no intention of using that parcel to the north. What they have there is quite permanent for awhile. Mr. deLong commented that it is on the market. Mr. Annunziato advised that the zoning will dictate the form of development. Mrs. Huckle determined they were talking about changing the actual corner from R-2 to C-1. Mr. Annunziato clarified that there are three lots on the northwest corner, which are isolated by Ridge Pointe Woods Villas. He said the City would have a very difficult time trying to defend the R-2 zoning there because it is isolated. Mr. Ryder could see C-1 zoning there. Mr. Annunziato could not recall who owns the lots but estimated they are a total of 15,000 square feet. There is also an intravening street where Miss Little parks her bus. Area 42 South Seacrest Boulevard, South of Bethesda Hospital The Planning Department sees the potential here for strip commercial zoning, particularly for small offices, and were recommending against it. Mr. Cannon thought they would get an application sooner or later for that row of undeveloped lots on the east side of Seacrest, south of the Seacrest Professional Center. Mr. deLong informed him that the purchaser of the lots might attempt to get five lots out of of four, but will stay at R1A. That is the way it was sold and the way the purchaser bought it. Area 43 Parcel on East Side of South Seacrest Boulevard between Woolbri~ht Road and S. E. 23rd Avenue Mr. Cannon said this is the parcel south of the water plant. The Planning Department is more or less defending the exist- ing zoning and land use designation that is there. Mr. Annunziato advised that there are a couple of different owners there. One is Attorney Gene Moore, who would probably sell his property at the right price. Mr. Cannon continued that the Planning Department is suggest- ing that is not the appropriate location for commercial use because it is a residential area near High Point, Squire - 13 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Hill, and Seaway Villas. Mr. deLong advised that the land owned by Gene Moore that they were alluding to could never go "Residential-, as it is where the fencing is up against the water plant' , There was discussion about the location of Attorney Moore's property. Mr. Annunziato said Mr. Moore's property abuts the Water Plant property from the south, but Mr. Moore has an access easement through the water plant property. Mr. Annunziato was suggesting that the property could not be developed under the zoning category it is in. If it were combined with the major parent tract, it would then be developed.fronting on Seacrest Boulevard. Mr. Annunziato said that was the parcel of land the Community Redevelopment Agency talked about in the past for housing for the elderly. There was discussion that it was the Rose property. Mrs. Huckle recalled that at one time it was going to be made High Point East after the development of High Point West. When you look at it, Mr. deLong said you immediately see warehouses. Mr. Annunziato did not think they would ever see warehouses there because there would be too much private pressure. Mr. Cannon thought that, eventually, there would be some type of group housing there. Area 44 Lake Boynton Estates Mr. Ryder remarked that this is where Tradewinds wants to come in. Mr. Cannon told the Members the City is currently being sued on this Area. Mr. Ryder said some homes have been there for awhile. Mr. Annunziato informed him that the plats were recorded in 1925. Mr. Annunziato said this recommendation was sort of compli- cated and mimicked the recommendation he made in connection with the Planned Unit Development (PUD) about changes in land use with a conclusion perhaps as to different kinds of land uses in the area. The contract owners of Tradewinds have sued the City over the denial of that zoning, so that is being litigated. Tradewinds has filed a request for Planned Commercial Development (PCD), which the BOard will be reviewing on JUne 12. They have a ivery complicated recommendation because the outcome is Unknown. Mr. Annunziato said they will be dealing with three o~ four scenarios and what could happen. - 14 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 At the outset of the Land Use Element, Mr. Cannon said the Planning Department believed that the proper land use cate- gory was a single family zoning district, which is "Low Density Residential", as opposed to "Moderate Density Residential.,, The Planning Department thinks the Land Use Plan should show the City's R-lA and R-1AA zoning districts as 4.84 dwelling units per acre as opposed to 7.26, which they are showing right now. Presently, there are no R-lA, R-1AA, or R-1AAB districts which are developed at a density higher than five units per acre. The recommendation the Planning DePartment was making for Area 44 was consistent with that overall recommendation for lowering the land use intensity of the single family districts. The Planning Department was also suggesting that the R-3 strip along the railroad tracks be downzoned to R-2. It seems an Boynton Beach that the development of duplexes along railroad tracks has been a viable and desirable form of development. The area along Boynton Beach Boulevard was designated as Area 10 on the original Comprehensive Plan. Mrs. Huckle asked if it was next door to where the medical center was going to be. Mr. Annunziato answered affirma- tively. Mr. Ryder commented that Los Mangos, being on the tracks, is still viable. There was discussion. On the northend of this particular property, Chairman Trauger saw nothing preventing that same type of residential from coming down to Woolbright Road, with the way it is set up. It is quite viable; the lots are of a marketable housing type in there, and you can see a higher market as you come down there. It looked to him like it had already taken off with the lower interest rates, because, "Where is anything left in the City with this type of zoning?" The Planning Department also made two recommendations concerning transportation, which were mainly that a collector road be provided from Woolbright Road to Ocean Drive, and that a collector be provided going to the east to serve the M-1 property (Winchester property). Mr. deLong recalled the Winchester property is an industrial piece of property. Mr. Annunziato informed Mr. deLong that Mr. Winchester applied for, and the Planning Department is also recommend- · ng, a railroad crossing to be located at approximately llth Avenue, which is as far south as you can get and still meet the railroad company's requirements. He thought the merits of the crossing at this location were well known to everybody - 15 - - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 who had to deal with the railroad crossing at Ocean Drive and would be to everyone's benefit. Mr. Annunziato expounded and added that the railroad crossing has been a problem. It is an old crossing that is improperly located for today's uses. The problem is, to get from Railroad Avenue to 8th Street, Mr. Annunziato said you need a collector because, by defini- tion, it would be a collector road right-of-way. If you assume that you already have an east/west collector there, and that is what the land use term is on, because the same problems that resulted from the PUD being proposed north of the proposed collector, you would collect isolated parcels zoned R-lA and R-3 southward. The Planning Department,s recommendation was that the property south of the east/west right-of-way should go into an Office/Professional category. Mr. deLong asked what the property is now. Mr. Annunziato replied that it is C-2, R-lA, and R-3. When you put in the railroad crossing and bring the road across, the Planning Department is suggesting that the road should intersect with 8th Street, as far south as you can get, given the forms of roads. Mr. Annunziato said you are probably talking about 660 feet north of Woolbright Road so, in effect, you would be creating an "S" street. He drew a diagram on the blackboard to illustrate what he meant and said the railroad crossing, as proposed, would have to go just north of llth Avenue, which is as far south as the railroad would let them go. 8th Street would be realigned to intersect with the median, which is where it should go. That gives the signalized intersection that you need. If they are going to have a railroad crossing and a road, Mr. Annunziato said they have to do something on that area. Mr. Ryder looked at the illustration and commented that it would really mess it up. Chairman Trauger asked how they would keep C-2 from jumping in there. Mr. Annunziato showed where it would go to "Medium Density,, and what areas would go to "Office and Professional-. Mr. deLong noticed it would take the C-2 right out. Mr. Annunziato said that then they would have an "Office and Professional-, a collector, and a single family neighborhood. Given the situation that is there with all of the diversion of interest, there is still substantial value there. It also does away with a lot of the land use problems you have. - 16 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Mr. Annunziato informed Mr. deLong that Mr. Winchester has about 23 acres of developed and undeveloped property. Mr. deLong asked what industrial uses are there now. Mr. Annunziato answered, "Four-Steel Corporation and Bulldog Fence Company". When you come on Ocean Avenue, where the American Legion is and the feed and seed company, there is a big Legion Post. The American Legion asked Chairman Trauger to find out who they should contact about clearing the land, taking the weeds out, sandblasting the building, and painting it. Mr. Annunziato informed him that is what the Community Redevelop- ment Agency is talking about moving over to the new inter- section on the other side of the bridge. Apparently, it is a landmark. Mr. Annunziato said it was the original Post when this was platted in 1925. He agreed with Chairman Trauger's statement that the City should preserve the American Legion Post. Mrs. Huckle asked what the reason was for the Railroad not allowing any railroad crossing lower than llth Avenue. Mr. Annunziato explained that there is a curve in the tracks and a passing track. Geometrically, the railroads set the point and said this was as far south as they could go. Mr. Annunziato said it is probably in the City right-of-way. Mrs. Huckle and Mr. Ryder liked the recommendation. Mr. Ryder reminded the Members that they would be having a PCD coming up. Mr. Cannon advised that it would be held on June 12. Mr. Ryder pointed out that the applicant does not c°ntemplate~"Office and Professional-, which was what Mr. Annunziato was talking about. Mrs. Huckle thought the "Office and Professional" would be ideal. Mr. Annunziato did not know that it was necessary to sell the idea to the owner. Mr. Ryder thought it would do away with opposition from Leisureville. Mr. Annunziato said this reduces the level of intensity in all of the land, but it recognizes that you have to access the industrial property. Mr. deLong asked if what Mr. Annunziato was now proposing was "Moderate Density-, as opposed to "Low Density-. Mr. Annunziato answered affirma- tively. Mr. deLong estimated that would cut it in half. Mr. Annunziato advised it would be from 7.26 to 4.8. Mr. deLong asked how many acres were in the "Moderate Density" portion of it. Mr. Annunziato thought there were about 70. Mr. deLong commented that they were now talking about roughly 336 units, and they just came in with a plan of 618. - 17 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27' 1986 Mr. Annunziato reminded the Members that the City Council can oppose this. Mrs. Huckle brought out that these people are into lawsuits. Mr. Annunziato did not think the Board or the Council should be concerned about lawsuits, as it applies to any action they take in planning. They have the law behind them. There was more discussion. City Manager Cheney entered the meeting at 5:15 P. M. Mr. Annunziato continued that the comment here is that it should be replatted. Mrs. Huckle and Mr. Ryder liked it. Although Chairman Trauger thought it was great, he wondered how they could hold on to this concept against the plans that will come up on June 12th. Mr. Annunziato thought this was just something else to consider in light of the applica- tion that comes up. Mr. Ryder exclaimed that it was more fitting to have this type of thing than to have a shopping center, and it is compatible with what is across the street. There was more discussion. Mr. deLong and Mrs. Huckle commented that loss of the C-2 portion would be a problem. Mr. Annunziato pointed out that the applicant would be losing the C-2 but probably would be doubling the commercial acreage. Substantial value is created by that recommendation. Mrs. Huckle asked what is west of 8th Street. Mr. Annunziato replied that it is C-2 and R-lA. Mr. Ryder added that it is R-lA along the canal adjacent to Leisureville. Since the Baptist Church moved their plan over to the west side, Chairman Trauger said it might change their plans. Mr. Annunziato thought it would depend on what they do contractually. Mrs. Huckle questioned whether the access road from llth Avenue to 8th Street would impact two or three different parcel owners. Chairman Trauger replied that Kislak Mortgage Company owns some of it. Mr. Annunziato added that Riteco, and also the Church, own "a bunch". No matter what they do on this parcel, it will be full of problems. ANNEXATION POLICIES page 210 Before going into the specific recommendations for areas outside of the city limits, Mr. Cannon thought they should turn to the annexation policies on this page. - 18 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Page 211 3.8.4.5. In 1983, Mr. Cannon said there was a straw ballot in which the voters were asked how big a city they wanted Boynton Beach to be. On that ballot, the voters overwhelmingly stated that they did not want the City to expand beyond the boundaries necessary to square off the existing boundaries. The map showed the existing City limits and what they interpreted to be the line that would be consistent with the straw ballot. Mr. Cannon said the Planning Department recommended that the City adopt, as a formal policy, that this will be the ulti- mate City limits. There may be some exceptions to the line, in the High Ridge Corridor. In some areas, they recommended that the City should analyze specific annexation applications to see if they meet the criteria for annexation and also the criteria in the State Statutes for annexation as far as the compactness of the additions, etc. Boynton West There was discussion about the map. Reference was made to the Boynton West subdivision. Mr. Cannon estimated that about 2/3 of the area was developed with single family homes. Methods of Annexation One of the constraints imposed on the scenario that the Members saw is the way you can annex in Florida by State Statute. Mr. Annunziato said you can annex by voluntary petition or by joint referendum. If people in the City and people in the area to be annexed both agree that they want to be in the City, and the City wants them, you can annex. You can also annex by a legislative act like the Legislature might do for Delray BeaCh. Mr. Annunziato said this suggests there will not be much desire on the part of the people in those subdivisions to annex. If they do not want to annex, unless they change the laws, they are not going to be in the City, regardless of the City's position. Built into this is an interpretation of people's attitudes. - 19 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 High Ridge Road Mr. Cannon informed Mr. deLong that the west side of High Ridge Road is already platted and developed. There are numerous small large lot subdivisions on the east side of High Ridge Road. It is very difficult to annex this area. Mr. Cannon wished to summarize the Planning Department's recommendations for land use along the boundaries of the City. They included everything going up to Hypoluxo Road and out to Lawrence Road in their Land Use Recommendations, even though they do not anticipate that either of these areas will ever be annexed. Given the outside chance that they might be annexed, Mr. Cannon thought it was wise to have some kind of policies in a Comprehensive Plan. With reference to the High Ridge corridor, they recommended the area south of the lots which run down Hypoluxo Road it- self be preserved as a "Low Density Residential,, area and be primarily "Single Family,,. Hypoluxo Road The Planning Department thinks the frontage along HYpoluxo Road is going to go "Commercial,,. The County already recommended in their Land Use Plan that most of that front- age be zoned "Commercial,, to a depth of approximately 300 feet. Pockets in the Northwestern Corner of the City and West of the Existing City Limits The Planning Department is recommending that this be annexed and placed in the "Low Density Residential,, category. He did not think there was going to be much controversy as far as those two areas because the County already has those in their "Low Density,, category. Mr. Cannon thought where they would get some argument, particularly if they try to compel annexation, would be in the area shown on the County Land Use Plan in the "Medium,, to "Medium High Density,, category. The County has a base density of eight units per acre but which allows, providing they meet certain standards, densities up to 12 units per acre. Assuming these property owners could get maybe ten units per acre in the County, Mr. Cannon thought the Board could anticipate that they will resist being compelled to annex into the City at 5 units per acre. - 20- MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Whispering Pines Mobile Home Park Mrs. Huckle asked if any of the land Mr. Cannon referred to was developed. Mr. Cannon showed the location of the mobile home park and said it is developed. The other parcels are not developed. Whispering Pines is a rental park, so they think, eventually, it may be developed for permanent housing. Providing the City wants to annex this, and they think it should be because it abuts existing developments in the City, the City should insist that the property owners annex and that they annex into the City's Land Use category, as opposed to developing in the County. Mr. Cannon thought the implication was that the Planning Department does not think "High Density" development should be allowed in an area that is immediately to the west of where "Low Density" development is in the City. He showed where a single family portion of Meadows 300 will be and a portion of the Melear PUD will be. Sunny South Estates and Gustafson property Even though Sunny South Estates had about 6~ dwelling units per acre, Mr. Cannon showed a portion of Sunny South Estates that is developed in small, single family dwelling units. He said Sunny South Estates and the Gustafson property would be in the "Moderate Density', category, which is 7.26 dwell- ing units per acre. Right now, it is questionable as to whether Sunny South Estates would ever be annexed into the City. If the mobile home park is ever redeveloped, (which the Planning Department thinks is going to happen), they can then compel them to annex into the City. The City has a water and sewer agreement with a portion of Sunny South Estates and the Gustafson property and can then tell them to annex. Boynton West This is single family housing, and Mr. Cannon did not see much chance of that ever being annexed. Oakwood PUD The Planning Department does not think that will be annexed. They already have utilities from the City. Area between Old Boynton Road and Boynton Beach Boulevard The City staff has already discussed with the County Planning Staff what the future of this area should be. They - 21 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 reconciled their oriqinal differences and concluded that the property along Boynt6n Beach Boulevard and the eastern 1/2 of property, which Mr. Cannon indicated, in between there and Old Boynton Road, should be in the "Retail Commercial,, cate- gory. The area to the west of that should be in the "Office category. " Mr. Annunziato interjected that there are only three or four property owners in the entire area. One property owner owns most of it. Before that property is developed as a develop- ment of regional impact, the Board will be going through the same process it went through with the Park of Commerce. Mr. Annunziato thought it would have to be annexed before they could go through the development and regional impact analy- sis because the local government has to process the develop- ment of regional impact. Mrs. Huckle asked if the County could not do that. Mr. Annunziato replied that they can, but the City would lose the ability to conclusively determine the outcome through the planned commercial development regulations, and he explained. It is really a pocket in the City. The City will be pro- viding Police and Fire protection and utilities and should be determining the density. Mr. Cannon confirmed Mr. Ryder was correct in saying there is a County pocket between the new post office and Gallo, and said the Planning Department is recommending it should be placed in a "High Density Residential- category. Area West of Knuth Road Mr. Cannon told the Members the City would be wise to adopt Knuth Road as its boundary. The Land Use along Boynton Beach Boulevard to the west of Knuth Road is an issue that mainly affects the County residents (Quail Ridge and Bent Tree), and the City would be wise to stay out of that discussion. South Congress Avenue There is one more out parcel of approximately 14 acres on South Congress Avenue, and the Planning Department recommended that be placed in the "Low Density,, category for single family residences, since Silver Lake Estates lies immediately to the north. - 22- MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Mr. Cannon commented that, obviously, this should be in the "Low Density. category, It is a little out parcel that fronts on Barwick Road. West Side of Lake Ida Another out parcel lies along the west side of Lake Ida, immediately south of Lake Eden Estates, where Grimes Warehouse is located. There are several single family houses immediately north of that warehouse. The Planning Depart- ment recommended that the City annex the warehouse, if pgssible. At the time of annexation, it will be annexed as a non-conforming use in a residential category because the Planning Department does not see an industrial use immediately south of that warehouse. Mr. Cannon imagined the owner would like to see all of the development ultimately be a warehouse. He thought it was the City's poliCy to prevent any future industrial develop- ment along Lake Ida. Gulfstream Boulevard There is a small out parcel on the north side of Gulfstream Boulevard, immediately to the west of Gulfstream Mall. The Planning Department recommended that the existing land use category for zoning be brought southward to Gulfstream Boulevard. Mr. Annunziato informed Mrs. Huckle it is west of the tracks. Rollingwood Mr. Ryder asked if the development of Rollingwood, which is R-1AA, was under construction. Mr. Annunziato replied that it was not, and the Board may end up seeing a completely different plan for that property. South U. S. 1 Mr. Cannon said they made an attempt to sort out the land uses along south U. S. 1. At the time Spada Concrete applied for rezoning to a M-1 category along Old Dixie Highway, they made an analysis of the existing land uses in that area and found along U. S. 1, there is still a predominance of retail office uses. Therefore, they recommended that the lots which front on U. S. 1 continue to be placed in the C-3 zoning district. The Planning Department thinks the lots along Old Dixie Highway are not suitably located for retail use. - 23 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 As to the lots which are in the County, they have mostly developed for wholesale uses. The Planning Department ~recommended they be in the C-4 category. Mr. Cannon pointed to a small area which had already been developed and platted for single family homes. The Planning Department does not see much chance that that will be annexed into the City. It has been a pocket for some time. Theoretically, it should be in the "Moderate Land Use" category. The lot size mostly conforms to the City's R-1 zoning. They are very small single family lots. Mr. Cannon said the R-1 zoning district, which the Members could see on the north side, is the only single family zoning district. The Planning Department was recommending it continue in the "Moderate Density" category. The Planning Department also recommended that the City's boundaries be squared off to include U. S. 1 and only those parcels west of U. S. 1. They do not think it is particularly desirable to try to add any piecemeal annexation of those properties along the east side of U. S. 1. Mr. Cannon told Mr. Ryder he believed the Town of Gulfstream came up to the City's southern limits. Mr. Annunziato said two things could change that recommenda- tion. If there was a desire on the part of those residents to join into the City's utility system, it could be the basis for a joint referendum to determine annexation of that property or, if the County ever gets out of the urban development business, through some act of the Legislature, they could also become a part of Boynton Beach. Mr. Annunziato told the Members those were the only two scenarios the Board should consider. They should not consider voluntary annexations of lots. Mr. Annunziato thought that would make it very difficult to serve the Police and Fire. The subdivision is not in the City, and everybody knows that. If houses are in the City, it would create the same problem Delray Beach is having. With reference to the area of "Moderate Density Housing" along the west side of U. S. 1, which Mr. Annunziato was indicating, Mr. deLong asked if that was the area that has a street called Wall Street. Mr. Cannon answered affirmative- ly. Mr. deLong questioned the fact that they were recommend- ing housing in there. Mr. Annunziato replied that is what it is zoned for. Mr. deLong pointed out that they were talking about Future Land Use. - 24 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Mr. Annunziato explained that first, you get what the potentials of different land uses might be. Any time you have a residential area like that, which is fairly old and subject to.deterioration, you can think in terms of recon- struction in a different category or look at it in the frame of what you can do to substantiate what is already there. Mr. deLong responded, "Not when you are surrounded with C-4 and C-3." Mr. Annunziato advised that to offer reconstruc- tion in a different land use category would mean that if it is ever annexed, those people could not maintain their homes. Mr. deLong asked how many homes were in there. Mr. Cannon estimated there were about fifty. Mr. Annunziato commented that to go in and remove fifty homes would probably be impossible because no one would be able to put together all of that land. Mr. deLong asked what would happen to the land if they zoned it C-4 and questioned whether it wouldn't really eliminate a slum. Mr. Annunziato thought they would be doing more to create a slum because they would take away the incentive to maintain property. Mr. deLong disagreed and asked, "What incentive do you have to maintain property when you are surrounded completely by C-3 and C-47" Mr. Annunziato informed him it is that way now. Mr. deLong added that half of the property should be bulldozed now. Mr. Annunziato agreed but said putting it into a commercial category would result in less maintenance. Since it is already subdivided and developed, Mr. Cannon said there is very little chance that the City will be annexing it. He thought it was really a land use issue for the County. Mr. Cannon recalled Dr. Bartley said a sub- division is 9/10tbs of land use. There was discussion. Mr. Cannon asked if the Members had any questions about the line the Planning Department had drawn. Mr. Annunziato added that the line was a statement, and they were suggest- ing that the people think about it. There were more comments. As far as land use, Mr. Cannon thought it was preferable to have a major street dividing the City from the County. Lawrence Road is a natural buffer between any development on this side and any development on that side. - 25- MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 Knollwood Groves Mr. Annunziato informed Mrs. Huckle that Knollwood Groves is in the City. Mrs. Huckle thought Lawrence Road was the divider. Mr. Annunziato explained that the City approaches Lawrence Road at Knollwood Groves. Mrs. Huckle was talking about Knollwood Groves on the west side and asked if that meant the City would not let them come into the City, if they wanted to, because the City wants to tidy up its boundary lines. Mr. Annunziato said they would be creating an exten- sion beyond the boundaries. An interpretation has to be made as to what happened when there was the referendum to square off the boundaries, and he explained. Mrs. Huckle noticed that Knollwood Groves is half in the City and half in the County. When the City did the '79 plan, Mr. Annunziato recalled that Knollwood asked to be put in the category of "Agriculture". Their statement was that they intended to be "Agriculture- for a long time, and what was the matter with having a green space in the middle of the urban area. Tradewind Estates Mr. Pagliarulo asked if this was still in the County. City Manager Cheney told of them being on the mailing list, by error, for the pocket annexation business in Delray Beach. They let Delray Beach know that they were above the area where the districts are, but then they wrote Boynton Beach and gave City Manager Cheney a copy of Delray Beach's information sheet. They wrote that they protested going into Delray Beach, but they would like to be a part of Boynton Beach. City Manager Cheney thought he would write to them and suggest that Mr. Annunziato and he talk to them to be sure they understand what it is about re streets, etc. Mr. deLong asked if City Manager Cheney had any idea what the tax base in there would be. City Manager Cheney replied that this is where annexation is talked about as a common sense delivery system of public service, not as a tax base situation. He suspected it would cost the City more to serve them. On the other hand, it is costing the taxpayers more for the County to serve them now. A heavy part of the Board's thinking should be common sense delivery of public services. Sometimes, they will deliver a service that will cost more than its total. COBRA City Manager Cheney referred to the COBRA group and said there is no reason the City would want to annex all of the - 26 - MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 residential areas out there (west of the City), provide those services, and have that additional number of people wanting beach decals. Property behind Sun Wah Restaurant at the Intracoasta] Mrs. Huckle drew attention to Bamboo Lane and asked if that is in the County. Mr. Annunziato replied that the canal is in the City, but he thought the houses were in the County. Page 131 Area 72 Remainder of Reserve Annexation Area and Utility Service Area Mr. Annunziato informed the Members that the reserve annex- ation area and utility service area go as far west as the E-3 Canal, which is 1/2 mile west of Military Trail. The service area is larger than the reserve annexation area because the reserve annexation area excludes Quail Ridge, Pine Tree, Village of Golf, and Delray Dunes. The Village of Golf Utilities still delivers water to Quail Ridge south of Woolbright Road, the Village of Golf, Delray Dunes, and a part of Indian Springs. Recently, they disconnected their sewer system and tied into the master lift station located on Golf Road. Now they are a wholesale user of the City's system. City Manager Cheney explained that the Village of Golf has a collecting system, and they sell their sewage to the City. The City takes it from the Village of Golf's pumping station on Golf Road to the regional plant and charges them for transportation and treatment. Mr. Annunzia%o informed Mrs. ~uckle that the Village of Golf has a treatment plant off of Golf Road, about 1/4 mile east of Military Trail. Chairman Trauger wondered if that water treatment plant was getting old. City Manager Cheney guessed so. There was discussion about how long the Village of Golf has been there. Because Attorney Gene Moore told him, Mr. Annunziato apprised Chairman Trauger that he understood the basis of the reserve annexation area was to prohibit the additional incorporation of municipalities. What happens is it remains a County pocket unless there is some desire in the future for them to create their own city, at which time it will be addressed, and there will be a negotiated settlement. - 27 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, ~FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 For a long time, City Manager Cheney said the utility service area kept being raided at midnight by political actions between the County Commission and folks out here. The City now has an agreed upon utility service area with Palm Beach County. There is a fixed agreement, a Resolution, and no more argument about it. Mr. Cannon stated that the recommendation for Area 72 mainly concerns the water and sewer systems for the City of Boynton Beach. They are recognizing that the City's water and sewer capacity are both finite, and both systems have been designed based on what the City knew to be existing, approved developments, and also on what the Palm Beach County Land Use Plan called for. As far as the City can understand, the water and sewer systems would be able to accommodate, up to the mid point on the County's Land Use Plan, those areas that are still zoned "Agriculture". For Area 72, Mr. Cannon said they were recommending (1) that there are existing or approved developments that the City not approve revisions to our water service agreement that would increase the densities over what they are now, (2) On those portions still zoned "Agricultural", that the City not approve densities which would be above the mid point of the density range on the County's Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Ryder could not help but think that at one time it was contemplated that this job of evaluating would be farmed out. No way could any consulting outfit have done what the Planning Department had done. Besides, the consulting firm would have taken up a lot of the Planning Department's time. Mr. Annunziato thought when you do things in-house, you do a better job because you are familiar with them, but it takes time, and you also build in bias. NEXT MEETING Mr. Cannon told the Members they still have to review the energy and traffic circulation elements. Finally, at the beginning of the capital needs list, they will be setting the basis for the City's Impact Fee Ordinance. It was decided the Members could converse better in the Conference Room of the Building Department, and they would meet again there on Thursday, May 29, 1986 at 4:00 P. M. Vice Chairman Winter stated he would be unable to attend that meeting. - 28 - MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 27, 1986 ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeti~rly adjourned at 6:00 P. M. Patricia Ramseyer ~ Recording Secretary (Two Tapes) - 29 -