Minutes 11-24-81MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HELD
AT CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 1981
PRESENT
Simon Ryder, Chairman
Garry Winter, Vice Chairman
Lillian Bond
Ronald Linkous
Robert Wandelt
Simon Zive
ABSENT
Ezell Hester '~xcused)
Carmen Annunziato, City Planner
Tim Cannon,
ASsistant City Planner
Craig Grabeel, Energy Coordinator
Chairman Ryder welcomed .everyone and called the meeting to order at
7:30 P. M. He introduced the M-embers of the Board, the City Planner,
Assistant City Planner, Energy Coordinator, and Recording Secretary.
Chairman Ryder acknowledged the presence of Councilman Joe deLong
and Mr. Owen Anderson, Executive Vice President, Chamber of Commerce~
in the audience.
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Mr. Zive moved, seconded by Mr. Linkous, that the minutes be
accepted as presented. Motion carried 6-0.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman Ryder announced that the Board Dinner would be December 10
at Hunter's Run. He further announced that the next meeting would
be held on December 8th. Because of the Christmas season, Chairman
Ryder said that perhaps the meeting scheduled for Dece~er 22,
1981 would be cancelled unless there would be an emergency. As the
time for electiOn of Board Members has been changed, it should not
present a problem, as all of the Board Members will be back next
year, Mr. Annunziato felt the December 22nd~meeting could be
tentativ.ely cancelled, as he knew of no urgent matters coming up,
COMMUNICATIONS
None.
OLD BUSINESS
None.
NEW BUSINESS
PRESENTATION:
MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
NOVEMBER 24, 1981
"Planning the Energy Efficient Community"
PresenHed by: C.G.R. Energy PrOject Attorney David COffey
Chairman Ryder said the presentation was based on a study of Boynton
Beach and would result in suggestions as to how the City of Boynton
Beach can implement its energy element plan, which is part of the
Comprehensive Land Use Plan,
Craig Grabeel, Energy Coordinator, had submitted a report to all
members of the Board. He introduced Attorney David Coffey from
the University of Florida Law Center. Mr. Grabeet said Mr. Coffey
had also brought a second presentation whiCh was produced .by the
University of Florida and distributed by the Cooperative Extension
Services which deals with landscaping.
Mr. Coffey presented the slide show on energy and said he would be
glad to answer any questions the Board may have after the show.
Mr. Coffey informed the Board that the City of Boynton Beach has
already identified its goal to reduce its dependence on fossil
fuels and to maximize the use of renewable sources of energy.
Boynton Beach has already done that in i~s Comprehensive Plan
through its energy element, which is something very few cities in
Florida have done, so Boynton Beach is way ahead in that regard.
Chairman Ryder pointed out that the Board had copies of the report
which purports ~to be an analysis of the ordinances on %he Comprehensive
Plan of Boynton Beach to determine a potential: for energ~y conservation.
Chairman Ryder felt all the Board could do was to accept the
report. He felt it would be very benefic±al for the slides to also
be presented to City Council. Mr. Coffey said he would be glad Ho
come back, Mr. Annunziato recommended that the Board accept the
report and evalUate it in connection with their current~eview of
the zoning ~egulationS. Chairman Ryder~commented that in the future,
workshop sessions can be set up for this as well as other matters.
He advised Mr. Coffey that the Board has a back log' of proposed
changes to existing regulations and ordinances. The recommendations
would be included in future studies.
Mr. Linkous asked if any other presentations had been made, Mr.
Coffey replied that this was the first one of this type, Ten or
twelve cities have adopted the ideas. Chairman Ryder said the
report was tailored for Boynton Beach. Mr. Coffey said Dade CoUnty
is adopting the idea. Mr. Zive thought the fact Boynton Beach was
picked indicated progress, and he thought the Board should aid them
in their progress. Mr. Coffey ~emarked that it spoke well of the
leadership of Boynton Beach. Chairman Ryder thought municipalities
were required to include the energy element. Mr. Coffey informed
him they were not. Energy was not even identified in 1975.
Mr. Coffey referred to Dunnedin on the West Coast as having done
everYthing that they have explained to local governments as being
energy conservatiOn techniques. They already identified an energy
efficient land use urban growth pattern. Boynton Beach has also
identified many of the same energy conservation techniques in its
u~ban .growt~ patterns.
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NOVEMBER 24, 1981
Mr. Coffey pointed out that the City of Boynton Beach has a policy
to move away from commercial strip development as'there are major
arteries combined with commercial development, That is not an
energy effiCient technique. A' better approach would.~be to
consolidate commercial development in general use activit±es and
commercial centers. The City has-already identified,t~at as a
desirable objective, which is an energy conservation technique,
Chairman Ryder noted the only place the City can.go is'west. Mr.
Coffey said the City can accommodate the needs of the people living
out there by providing commercial retail establiskmen%s .nearby to
the residents. Higher density is more desirable than low single
family dwellings, Mr. Coffey said South Florida does~not wan~ to
talk about higher density. Higher density was not recommended in
Fort Lauderdale. ~Each area must be studied.
Chairman Ryder asked if very many other cities had setup Energy
COordinators. Not tOo many cities have set them up and a lot of
them with larger bUdgets have not shown 'the foreSight to
establish the position, answered. Mr. Coffey, so~Boynton Beach is
way ou~ front and it is to the City's credit.
Mr. Linkous requested clarifiCation of Mr. Coffey's statement that
high rises were not recommended to Fort Lauderdale. He thought
that would sayeenergy~. Mr. Coffey explained that he did not say
high rises, but increased density. Fort Lauderdale is a small area
and virtually built out.
Mr. Coffey told the Board they are hoping the Board will be aware
of the impact their decisions have on energy, and planning in the
future wilt definitely yield a more energy efficient environment.
Mr, Zive moved, seconded' by Mr. LinkOus, that the Board wOuld
accept the report and pursue it as expeditiously as possible so
they can present-necessary recommendations. The motion carried
6-0.
HEIGHT EXCEPTION
Request for an exception to the district height regulation to
permit the construction of a solar pole. Said solar pole?is pro-
posed to be located in the.~C-2 N '
elghborhood Commercial zone at
Ocean Avenue a't 'SE 2 St~. (iSE Corner).
The height exception requested is to go between 40 and 60 feet,
and the intent is to install a pole upon which special'deVices will
be mounted which will obtain heat from the sun and convert it to
electricity to be stored in batteries, Chairman Ryder advised.
Mr. Annunziato told the Board that initially there was a solar
pole installed to the rear of Summers Electric. It was subsequently
taken down due to structural problems. The application is now
before the Board on the request of the City Council for a
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NOVEMBER 24, 1981
recommendation regarding the~request of Mr. Albert G. Wade, Ii to
install a solar pole which exceeds the height regulation by'15 feet.
The applicationiS fOr a solar p01e 40' feet in height~ Mr..
Annunziat° informed~the Board the pole is free standing and is
attached to a concrete fOundation in the ground~ It has provided a
solar collector'2 feet from the top in cylindrical form, which is 4
feet high. Then t.here 'is a 2 foot break, and then there is an
additional Cylinder for the'heating of hot water. The pole.the two
cylinders are supported on is a 12 inch round aluminum pole. In-
side the pole are ~wo 1/2 inch wat~er lines which are used for water
cirCulation. The location of the pole is almost adjacent to the
rear of the Summers Electric-building.
Mr, Annunz±ato called .the Board,s attention to a letter from Mr.
Wade, dated NOvember 19,~ 1981, where 'he referred to Section 4,
General Provisions-Fi of the City of Boynton Beach ZOning Code,
wherein qUestions are asked which relate to land Use in this area.
Mr. Wade provided answers to the questions. Mr. Annunziato further
pointed out..thHt-the ~pplicant was asking that he be given a
b!~nket exception based o~ his comments.
Mr. Annunzfat~ added~that the City Engineer and Bu£1ding O~f~cial
looked at the structural members of the proposed solar~ pole and
the height exception is subject to being granted by~.t'he City
Council. It could be permitted structurally.
Mr. Zive felt the applicants should be encouraged, Mr. Annunziato
referred the~BOard to a memo submitted by City Manager Peter Cheney
concerning-energy poli~y in which he supports innovation in the
energy field, Mr, Annunziato asked the~applicant~'to Come forward.
Mr. James Summers, 316 West Ocean Avenue, Boynton Beach, and business
address of Summers. Electric, 402 East Ocean A~enue, Boynton Beach,
came forward.
Mr, Summers thought they were appearing for a variance. '~e said
they would be Willing to just have the experimental use of the pole
at that location. Chairman Ryder understood that even though they
applied to the conditions Whereby~height exceptions would be
considered~, they'were only ~alklng about one single,installation
behind his business. Mr. Summers stated it was fine with him since
the last time he appeared, a Board was going to fine ~him $100~.00
per day if he did not take the pole down. Chairman Ryder asked
him if he was wanting approval to do that throughout the City.
Mr. Summers replied ~hat right now, they were not at that point,
but just at the experimental point.
Chairman Ryder noted there were two paths of collectors, which
would convert the sun to 12 volts, direct current and batteries.
He asked how you could use that type of current.
Mr. Merritt Jacobsen, the Inventor of the pOle, appeared before the
Board. He has a factor.y of 500 people making this equipment and
they have noted there is a great deal of waste of electricity.
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Mr. Jacobsen said they were bypassing that and running the low
voltage CDC current direct~ They have a home in North Carolina
entirely supPlied with 12 volts of electricity, Chairman Ryder
asked what it supplied, He asked if it was for space heating and
cooling or hot Water. Mr.~ JaCobsen replied it was for cooking
and refrigeration but not heating or cooling, The other unit
will heat water'.directly to be'stored in a tank. The active unit
is at the top of the pole,
Mr. Jacobsen advised the Board that the VicePresident of
Motorola gave ~hem an alternator to work With in their experiments
which will add to the electrical ~charge, Chairman Ryder asked Mr.
Jacobsen if he proposed to install the impeller and still operate
an alternator. Mr, Jacobsen said~it wouLd'be for test purposes.
Mr. AnnUnzia%o -advised that as par~ of the requeSt in the appli-
cation there was no-impeller proposed. The-first app!~±cation from
Mr. Wade was a letter plus some backup material whiCh had i~itially
gone to the City Council, The information was inconsistent with
the pole on which there was a strUctural plan, which was also
inconsistent With the site plan'. After discussions between Mr.
Annunzlato and Mr. Made, Mr. Wade rewrote-the letter to Mr.
Annunziato, dropping the height to 40 feet, and taking out the
references to impeller.
They also granted authorizations, to modify some of the plan informa-
tion and draft a very 'simple si~e plan, which locates the pole.
That is really the subject of discussion, Mr. AnnunZiato advised,
He thought the-Board"should limit its recommendation to what is
being proposed~because, at this point, they only know that it will
work structurally.
Chairman Ryder asked if this would be the first instance where the
pole would be 40 feet high, Mr, Jacobsen said they have one 43
feet high in South Carolina. Chairman Ryder was interested in the
output. Mr. Jacobsen exclaimed that they only want it for
experimental use and testing purposes and that is .why they came
before the Board.
Mr. Wandelt asked if the approval ~of the structure would be for
experimental purposes only. Mr. Jacobsen said that was why they
were here, to discuss the merits of .an exception ~t0' the district
height regula~'~ion, No impeller is requested in the height ~
exception request.
Mr. Wandelt wondered why the Board did not know it was to be
for experimental purposes, Mr. Annunziato said-because %hey had
not been given a structural plan ~hich would indicate the structure
they propose could sust'ain additional pressure, weigh%, or tension
of an impeller. As far as the City granting approval for the
impeller, that was something that had not been addressed.
Chairman Ryder understood it was experimental and was not worried
about the pole falling down, Mr, Jacobsen advised that they intend
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to lower and raise the pole. Chairman Ryder felt they did not have
enough effective area to be concerned With wind pressures. He
thought the pipe and anchorage was adequate.
Mr. Zive repeated that they should be encouraged to continue the
experiment. Chairman Ryder said the Board had already indicated
they were interested in energy conservation but wanted to clarify
the intent and fix it on the one experimental pole.
Mr. Summers said that would be fine. They may put all water on it
at one time to see what it will do. Chairman RYder asked how it
would compare as far as direct hot water without going,through
electricity wi-th the roof panels. Mr'. Jacobsen said they have
already made steam out of it.
Mr, Summers thought the Board was concerned about the height
limitation. He wanted the Board to give approval for the wind
impeller, He asked how else they would be able to test it.
Chairman Ryder thought they were primarily interested in solar
energy and Mr~ Sum/nets answered, "No, any Kind of energy."
Mr. Linkous informed the Board that he had talked to Mr. Summers
today (~ovember 24~. He thought the applicatiOn could certainly
be approved. It had been looked at, Chairman Ryder asked why
the Board could not approve it according to the application and
if t-hey find subsequently the impeller would be necessary, they
could come ~in on that,
Mr. Jacobsen advised that the impeller would be stabilizing.
Wandelt agreed with Mr. JacobSen that the impeller should be
incorporated in the motion right now since the whole thing is
experimental,
Mr, Summers said first they had to ~ake it wind repetlant~ then
weigh it~ and then go to an architect, Mr. Summers said no one
knew any answers yet,-because no tests have been,made on it.
Chairman Ryder said his home consumes 50 kiliowatt hours per day,
and it is not a large home. Mr. Jacobsen s~id this particular style
pole may not be suitable for Chairman Ryder's home. It may be
good for a supplement, Et would produce 120 killowatts.
Mr. Linkous moved to accept the pole presented and let them erect
it for experimental purposes, Mrs. Bond seconded the motion,
Mr. Annunziato ask~d'that-the motion be clarified. He asked if
the Board was referring to just making the recommendation that the
pole with the two cylinders, or if they were referring to any modi-
fications to the pole which meet the structural codes as long as
the pole does not exceed 40 feet. Mr. Linkous thought that if it
was for experimental purposes, there would have to be some modifi-
cations. He'did not think the applicants should have to come back
unless there were major changes. Mr, Wandelt did not think it
should be restricted just to solar.
Mr, Annunziato said the intent of the motion was to limi~ the
height of the pole .to 40 feet and if there are any modifications
to the experimental features attached to the pole, there are no
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limitations on them except that the applicant is to'.seek additional
permits which would~be~satisfactory to. the Building Department.
C'hairman Ryde~-~explained to the applicants that if they attach any-
thing else to the pole, it might be something that would require
investigation structurally by the Building Department.
Mr. Annunziato understood the wind loading as being based on the
surface exposed to-the wind, and if more surfaces are added, the
wind load is being changed, and that questions the integrity of the
pole. If more cylinders are added, the pole's integrity is again
questioned.
Mr, Linkous, Mrs. Bond, and the Board agreed with the intent of
the motion, as outlined by.Mr. Annunziato. A vote was taken on
the intended motion and it~carried 6-0.
sITE PLANS
PrOject Name:
Agent:
Owner:
Location:
Description:
Dos Lagos
Fred Roth, Project Manager
The Satter Companies
Congress Ave. East side between Canals L.W.D.D.
19 and L.W.D.D. 20.
Multi-family Sections of previoUsly approved
Planned Unit Development to include 330 Units,
plus~reereational facilities.
Chairman Ryder said the plan had previously been presented to the
Board.
Tim Cannon, Assistant City Planner, presented the plans, He said
the plans were coming to the Planning and Zoning' Board with a
positive recommendation, subject to staff comments. The site plan
covers about 2/3 of the Dos Lagos site, cons±st±ng of patio homes
in the northwest quarter of the site. There will be 120 patio
homes in the northwest quarter, which will have 2 or 3 bedrooms
each. Three or four of the buildings will be clustered around
each parking lot.
Mr. Cannon informed the Board that patio homes would comprise a
condominium which would maintain the grounds and also the ~streets
and-recreation complex. The recreation complex consists of the
clubhouse, two tennis courts, and a swimming pool. There will be
a bike trail along Miner Road, and
on both lakes.
The southwest quarter Will contai~
will be 2 or 3 bedrooms in each a~
10 dwelling units in each building
comprise of a separate condominiTM
grounds, streets, and recreation c
a fishing pier w~lt be located
202 garden apartments. There
~rtment, and there will be 8 or
. The garden apartments would
· which would maintain the
omplex.
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Mr. Cannon continued by saying there are also 93 single family
lots platted in the eastern part of the site. The main access road
is Inter Lagos,and it Will also be maintained by bhe Dos Lagos
Homeowners AssoCiation, which will include all of the dwelling
units on the site.
The following staff comments were read by Mr. Cannon:
Building Dept,: "1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Board of Health approval will be required.
Palm Beach County turn-out permi~ will be
r.equired.
Must meet requirements of the Boynton Beach
Landscape Ordinance,
Patio homes, if sold "fee simple", shall be
separated by two 62) hOur fire wall.
Clubh~ses'parking spaces do not meet parking
ordinance requirements.
Clubhouses must meet handicap, requirements.
Flood zone is A-5, = eleven foot, (i1'~.
Water Management requires~t~hirteen foot (13')
six inches (6"~."
Planning Dept.
Public Works
Dept.
"1. Dwelling clusters in Tract B, Tract E, and
north cluster of Tract H. EaCh needs 1 more
parking space.
2. Clubhouse #l requires 34 parking spaces to
comply with zoning ordinance.
3. Clubhouse ~2 requires 21 parking spaces to
comply with zoning ordinance.
4. Provide parking for guardhouse,"
"Dumpster locations will be coordinated with Public
WOrkS'Department."
Fred Roth, Jr., Project Manager, .The Satter Companies, Inc.,
2328 S.'Congress Avenue, West Palm Beach, Florida, told the Board
they were presenting the plan for approval, had reviewed all of the
staff comments, and had no problem with any of them. He said they
will make the necessary modifications prior to any building
submittal.
Chairman Ryder questioned comment No. 4 from the Building Department,
He asked what the intent was with.regard to ownership. Mr. Roth
said it will be a condominium, and they will not be sold fee simple.
They would have to replat, the whole area in orde~ to sell fee
simple. He showed the Board an artist's rendering of the units.
Mr. Annunziato informed the Board that a final plat had been
recorded", and the sewer, water and paving are currently constructed.
Chairman Ryder called Attorney DaVid Coffey's attention to the fact
that this was a mixed and clustered development.
Mr. Roth said the 8 and !0 unit buildings-are basically architectur-
ally the same design. They will be clustered in the southwest
corner of the property.
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The intent is to make the south area more of an .adul.t community.
They are condominiums with 2 bedrooms and 2 baths and 3 bedrooms
and 2 baths. The 2 bedroom, 2 bath is about 1200 square feet,
and the 3 bedroOm, 2 bath will be about 1500 square feet.
Mr. Zive wondered about- the price range. Mr. ROth wa.s not sure
but basically the-same units are sellin~ in West Palm Beach for
$75,000.00 for-2 bedrooms, 2 baths. The patio homes in the
northwest will bemore oriented for young families. They are
also 2 bedroom, 2 baths, and 3 b~drooms, 3 baths. They are
single story buildings with trellis work with %he front'and back
open and a patio type atmosphere. It will allow for young adults.
with children. There will be individual recreation areas for
each one. It is a patgo home fourplex
Mr. Zive asked how!much land was given to the buildings and how
much to' the landScaping. Mr. Roth replied that the building area
is 15,7 acres. In the garden apartment areas, there will be a
lot more green spaces. Mr. Roth said it was difficult to say that
it is really only 15,7 because there are square foot areas
intended for single family homes.
Mr. Roth told the Board they plan to build fiVe~different model,s
of houses in the single family section. They will range in size
from 1600 square feet with a double car garage to 2800 square
feet. They will offer a full range of houses.
Mr. Wandelt moved to accept the plans, subject to staff comments.
The motion was seconded by Mr. Zive, and car,±ed 6-0,
Project Name:
Agent:
Owner:
Location:
Description:
Gulfstream Professional Center (Modified}
Patrick T. Hope
RObert R. Kipp
500 Gulfstream. Blvd., Boynton Beach, Fla.
Addition of parking lot, plus modifications to
floor plan.
Assistant City Planner Tim Cannon presented the plan, He told
the Board the plan came to 'them with a positive recommendation
from the Technical Review Board. There are no comments to the
site plan. The site plan is substantially the same as the plan
that was previously approved.
Mr. Cannon adviSed that modifications were being made, Three
parking spaces will be added and three handicapped spaces will be~
added. The additional parking spaces are being added to accommodate
additional offices. Three offices Will be created by splitting
three existing suites into two offices each.
Three sliding glass doors will be added on the north elevation.
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Mr. Robert R. Kipp, Owner and~developer, who lives at'2520 Sixth
Avenue, Gulfstream, came forward. He stated he was the owner of
Gulfstream Shopping Center.
Mr. Kipp found a 'hardship i~.prerentals because of the amount of
spaces in office buildings in all areas. They wanted to create
smaller' office's which would rent. The offices they wiSh-.~tO
create are to have ~400 ~square feet. Their standard Suites are
970 square feet. They needed another access to the outSide
so they put in three more doors on the lower floo~, which allow
them to enter from~the center hall.
Chairman Ryder asked M~. Kipp if they were crea~ing some units
about 1/2 the sizel Mr. Kipp said they were just making a
very limited number of smaller units available, They went down to
243 square feet ~to get another access door, so theY could-get
the three Sliding glass doors. Mr. Kipp advised the Board that
they were required to have 66 parking spaces. They had 87. This
will jump the parking .to 90. Also, they had 26% in landscaping
against the required 10%, The landscaping is now 22%, which is
still double the landscaping' requirements. Nothing has been
modified in the building, They do not know what the inside will
be until the tenants arrive, The tenants will go to the Building
Department and draw permits for the intended uses.
Mr, Linkous pointed'out that essentially what they were doing was
making it more marketable.
Chairman Ryder asked about the entrances. Mr. Kipp informed him
there was one entrance on Old Dixie° ~He said it was a strong
building, The windows are actually having sliding glass doors
cut down so it will be a heavy window. Chairman Ryder noticed
vezy little glass on the west. Most of the glass is on the north.
Mr, Kipp said the east and west had blank walls, so %hey have an
energy efficient building,
Mr. Annunziato informed the Board there were no staff comments and
the plan comes with'a positive recommendation. Mrs. Bond moved
that the plans be approved. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Wandelt and carried 6~0.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Zive moved, seconded by Mr, Wandelt, to adjourn, The motion
carried 6-0, and the meeting adjourned at 9:07 P. M. The Board
remained for a presentation of slides on landscaping by AttorneyCoffey,
spectfull submitted,
~atricia Ramseyer ~
RecOrding Secretar~
(Three Tapes) ~
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