Minutes 09-09-80MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
HELD AT CITY HALL, BOYNTON BE~CH, FLORIDA, SEPTEMBER 9, 1980
PRESENT
Arnold Thompson, Chairman
Sidney Bernstein
Lillian Bond
Wayne Drew
Simon Ryder
Garry Winter
Carmen Annunziato, City Planner
ABSENT
Fred DiSalle, Vice Chairman (Excused)
Chairman Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:30 P. M.
He introduced the members of tlhe Board, City Planner and
Recording Secretary.
MINUTES OF AUGUST 26, 1980
Mr. Bernstein moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Mrs.
Bond. Motion carried 5-0 with, Mr. Drew abstaining.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Annunziato announced for the next meeting there will be a
proposal for recreation building parking. He distributed
several zoning changes to be incorporated into the zoning
book.
"CITIZENS AWARENESS" PRESENTAT,ION
Mr. Annunziato introduced Mr. Sussman and told about his exper-
ience with housing authorities. Mr. Sussman explained how the
housing programs started in the United States and the history
of the agencies which were combined to form H.U.D. He told
about the local programs with the City and County Housing
Authorities working together.
Mr. Ryder referred to many housing projects being built over
the years and questioned how they have been maintained and Mr.
Sussman explained how some hou~sing authorities are more respon-
sive, but overall the housing has been maintained very well.
Mr. Ryder referred to a housing project built in New York and
asked about the policing of th~s project and Mr. Sussman ex-
plained how this was the responsibility of tm manager and
housing authority staff.
Mr. Bob Hamilton referred to housing projects in New York and
told about them being wrecked even though constructed of con-
cre~e, stone, etc. and asked what has been arranged for educa-
tion of the occupants? Mr. Sussman informed him that they
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have a housing counsellor who counsels'families before they go
in, but the key man on the job is the manager and it is his
responsibility to see ~erything is going right. He explained
that the residents are told what is expected of them and if
they don't conform, they must get out. Mr. Hamilton referred
to it being a problem to get the people to move and Mr.
Sussman disagreed. Mr. Hamilton requested a further response
with information pertaining to this. Mr. Sussman suggested
that he visit one or two of their projects in the area, so
he can see they are maintained with good management.
Chairman Thompson referred to the rehabilitation program in
Boynton Beach and asked if after rehabilitation, does owner-
ship revert back to owner occupancy and Mr. Sussman replied
negatively as it is owned by the Housing Authority, Chairman
Thompson referred to a housing project being planned for
Boynton Beach and Mr. Sussman replied that the Housing Auth-
ority is not connected with this. Chairman Thompson referred
%o the mention of ownership reverting to H.U.D. in 20 years and
asked who has title during that period and Mr. Sussman replied
the Housing Authority owns it, but must have the assistance of
the federal government; it is not totally owned by the Housing
Authority until the annual contributions contract comes to an
end.
Chairman Thompson stated the new project under construction
is supposed to get H.U.D. money and questioned what program
-they will be under and Mr. Annunziato replied that he believes
it will be under Section 8 new construction funds; it will be
managed by the Housing Authority, but is being developed by a
private developer.
Mr. Francis Powers asked if the houses are going to be built
of cinder block or reinforced concrete and Mr. Sussman replied
they are CBS. He added that one of the problems which they
learned was they built too many high rises t~ close together.
The kind they are talking about for Boynton Beach are single
or twin homes.
NEW BUSINESS
Site Development Plans
Applicant:
Location:
Description:
Project
Description:
J. Stephen Ryan for Mariner's Way
North of Lake Worth Mariner Village
Lot 9, Wilms Way, P.B. Book No. 23, Page
110 and Part of Govt. Lot No. 3, Section
22, Township 45S., Range 43E
32 two story, 2 - bedroom toWnhouses on
4.75 acres
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Mr. Annunziato showed the plan and advised that the Board has
seen this plan in several forms as the pre-application, master
plan and preliminary plat. The City Council approved the final
plat provisionally on filing a bond. These are attached single
family townhouses. On tM landscape plan, it is noted the
shore line is encumbered by mangroves which will be maintained
in the development of this site.
Mr. Annunziato referred to the staff comments and read the memo
from the Building Official noting that building permits for
this project are subject to either Water Management or D.E.R.
approval and this is subject to standard penetration tests for
soil density. He added that they have received a permit from
D.E.R. The Utilities Director noted the plans for Mariners Way
call for demucking if muck is found in installation of the
sewer line. This will have to be inspected on site when the
ditch is open. If any muck is found, and if in the judgement
of the Utilities staff it requires cradles because the muck is
too deep to remove and properly bed, this will be a require-
ment. The overall recommendation is this plan be approved
subject to comments.
Mr. J. Stephen Ryan, 1500 West Cypress Creek Road, Fort
Lauderdale, stated they are in agreement with the staff com-
ments.
Mr. Ryder stated in regard to the landscaping, it brings to
mind the fact the City has been having problems at times when
c/o's have been issued prior to the completion of the land-
scaping. He thinks it is incumbent on the City in the event
it is found necessary to issue a c/o and the landscaping work
has not been completed, that the work be bonded to be sure the
work is completed. He would hope the City Council and staff
would keep this in mind so the work is done to the satisfac-
tion of everyone concerned and as approved. In regards to
Los Mangos, there were requirements by 'the Community Appear-
ance Board, but the work was not done. He thinks it is very
important prior to any approvals if there is any work not com-
pleted in accordance with the approved plans and specifications
that the work be bonded to assure the developer does the work.
We have a proposed tree ordinance, we have a forester, and an
energy element including the matter of trees. When are they
going to consider the tree ordinance and Mr. Annunziato re-
plied that he believes the tree ordinance is .going to be pre-
sented to the Community Appearance Board next Monday night.
Mr. Ryder continued that one of the provisions is a survey be
made before any work is done showing all the existing trees
and shrubs, so we can determine to what extent the existing
trees and landscaping can be preserved. The sooner the ordi-
nance is approved, the better it will be.
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Mr. Annunziato stated the tree ordinance prepared by the attor-
ney qualifies this comment that an existing vegetative survey
is required. Most of the more recent developmen~ have been
conscious of the native vegetation. It should be accounted for
in ordinance form and hopefully will be on the books before too
long. Los Mangos had a lot of trees and they were removed and
those required were not put in. We should make sure in the
future all requirements are met before the job is signed'off.
Mrs. Bond asked if this ~ condominium type development and Mr.
Hamilton informed her it is townhouse, fee simple. Mrs. Bond
questioned the recr~ation area improvements and Mr. Hamilton
replied there is no recreation area and they will pay the City
for this according to the recreation formula.
Mr. Ryder referred to common areas and Mr. Hamilton explained
that it would be the same as Mariner's Village with the home-
owners receiving title to the land left for maintenance under
a Florida non-profit corporation. Mrs. Bond asked if there
would be a lease on this land and Mr. Hamilton rePlied nega-
tively as it will be owned by the people and explained how it
would be covered with title to the non-profit corporation and
that corporation has the obligation by the bylaws to maintain
these areas. Mr. Annunziato clarified that all areas not
within the lots become common property of the association
subject to their ownership and maintenance. This has been a
successful concept.
Chairman Thompson clarified that no seawall will be built on
the south with the mangrove area and Mr. Annunziato agreed
this was correct.
Mr. Ryder asked if the floor slab elevations are the same as
to the south and Mr. Annunziato replied affirmatively and
advised these are shown on Page 2.
Mrs. Bond made a motion that the site development plans for
Mariner's Way, north of Lake Worth Mariner Village, be ap-
proved with staff comments. Mr. Bernstein seconded the mo-
tion. No discussion. Motion carried 6-0.
OTHER
Mr. Ryder aSked what to do with the energy element and Mr.
Annunziato informed him this has been presented in draft
form and the planning staff is waiting for comments from
government agencies. When those comments are received, they
will be incorporated as necessary and prepare an element
subject to the Board's approval. This procedure will be
similar to the adoption of the comprehensive Plan. Mr.
Ryder commented that this draft appears to be pretty detailed.
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Mr. Ryder clarified that subsequently this will come before us
as the Local Planning Agency and a hearing will be held and
Mr. Annunziato agreed this was correct.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Winter made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Ryder.
Motion carried 6-0 and the meeting was properly adjourned at
8:20 P. M.
Respectfully submitted,
Suzanne M. Kruse
Recording Secretary
(One Tape)
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DATE:
TIME:
PLACE:
AGENDA
PLANNING .AND ZONING BOARD
Regular Meeting
September 9, 1980
7:30 P.M.
Council Chambers
City Hall
2.
3.
4.
5.
Acknowledgement of Members and Visitors
Reading and Approving of Minutes
Announcements
Communications
"Citizens Awareness" Presentation:
Mr. Barry Seaman, Palm Beach County Housing Authority.
6. Old Business
7. New Business:
A. Site Development Plans:
Applicant: . J. Stephen Ryan
for Mariner's Way
Location: North of Lake Worth Mariner
Village
Description: Lot 9, Wilms Way, P.B. Book
No. 23, Page 110 and Part of
Govt. Lot No. 3, Section 22,
Township 45So~ Range 43E.
Project
Description:
32 two-story, 2-bedroom
Townhouses on 4.75 acres