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Minutes 10-25-77MINUTES OF THE REGULA~ MEET~G OF THE PLANNING & ZONING BOARD HELD AT CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1977 AT 7:30 Po M. PRESENT Simom Ryder, Chairmam Romald Arena Mrs. Marilyn Huckle Richard Lambert Garry Winter Carmem Anmunziato, City Plamner Col. Walter M. Tra~er,. Vice Chairmam Mrs. Mary Schorr (Excused) Chairmam Ryder called the meeting to order at 7:30 P. M. amd introduced the members of the Board, City Pla~ner an~ Record- ing Secretary. Reading amd Approving of Minutes Ohairma~Ryder referred to having mimutes for approval from the regular meeting an4 from the Local Plammimg Agemcy and asked if the mim~tes from the Local Planning Agemcy should be deferred until the next Local Planming Agemcy meeting. Mr. Ann~nmiato replied that he thought this would be appro- priate. ChairmamRyder referred to the Local Plaaming Agency meeting amd aanouneed that at that meetimg the plamning con- smltants, who have beem retaine~ by the City of Boynton Beach to map out future development of the c.omprehemsi~e lamd use plam,expoun~ed en what ~hey intend to do amd from time to time there will be public hearings. They are interested in getting recemmendatiems from local ~ivic groups. Their intem- tion is to get all the residents' interest in this comprehen- sive land ~se plam. ChairmamRyder then referred to the mimutes from the Regular Meeting of October 11, 1977, and ascertaimed there were no corrections and commented Mrs. Kruse om the excellent prepara- tiom. Mr. Lamber% moved that the mim~tes ef the Regmlar MeetimE of October ~1 be approve~ as presented, seconded by Mrs. Huckle. No discussiom. Motion carrie~ 5-0. BUSINESS ChairmamRyder referred to receiving a copy of the City Ooum- oil minutes regardiag the public hearimg em the recreatiomal vehicle ordlinance proposal amd stated if there was ne oppesi- tiom, he woiuld like to defer this amd proceed to New ~usimess since there is omly one item involved. The members agreed. NEW BUSINESS Site Plato Approval MINUTES PLANNLNG & ZONING BOARD PAGE T~O OCTOBER 25, 1977 Colelial Club Condominium, Section 1 Applicant: Ms. Nellie Sharpe for Association Legml Description: Acreage Location: Former location of sales models Project Description: Landscaped park area aud eight parking spaces Mr. Amnunziato informed the members that there will be eight additional parking spaces which were originally intended upon the removal of the models. The pla~ has been reviewed By the Technical Review Board and there are no comments. The staff recommendation is to approve the plan as submitted. Chairman Ryder asked i~i anyone was present wishing to speak on behalf of this application. Ms. Nellie Sharpe, Apartment 304, 30 Colonial Club Drive, appeared before the Board and requested approval from the Board. She stated that they have Been waiting a long time for these parking s~aces. They will he guest spaces for the area. There have only been two park- ing spaces for a long time. Chairma~ Ryder referred te this apparently being intended as the final treatment and Ms. Sharpe agreed and stated they were following through with it now. She hopes they have conformed to everything and told how Mr. An~mnziato ha~ been very helpf~. Mr. Lambert asked if the parking places would be immediately put in and Ms. Sharpe replie~ as soon as possible and they do have an estimate from Hardrives. Mr. Lambert asked when the rest would be completed a~d M~. Sharpe explained that the developers were supposed to do it, but they made an agree- ment with Mr. Johnston that he could have the models and he would have to put in the park area. Mr. Johnston removed them in and it has been idle since. They appealed to the pers and it has been agreed they could go ahead and have the work done and send the ~ills to them and they pl~.~ to sue Mr. Jok~stO~o They intend to u~e their own money temporarily te put i~ the parking and the planting will take place if and when the money is furnished. She referred to this being a difficult situatie~ and told how they had te take legal action to get this far. ¥~o Arena made a motion that the Planning & Zoning Board re- commend to the City Co~cil the approval of the site pla~ f~or Eolonial Club Condominium, Sectio~ 1, seconded by Mr. Lambert. Under discussion, Mrs. Huckle asked if there was a time limit £or completion of a project after approval and Mr. Annu~ziato informed her there was a startup time, but no completion date. He explained ~ow the permits had dnrationm. Mr. Lambert asked if this would only apply when it pertained to the occupancy of a dwelling an~ Mr. Annun- ziato explained hew a project must contimme with the things for each b~ilding being done. Mrs. Nuekle referred to the possibility of this parking area and park being approved as NINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE ~{REE OCTOBER 25, 1977 one site pla~, but the park not boise completed for awhile and asked if it might b.e beneficial to separate the two and Mr. Amnunziato replied he did not believe there is amy pro- blem. He does not thimk there is a permit reqmired to con- struct a park. Mrs. Hmckle referred to a permit being re- quired for the installatio~ of a sprinkler system and Ms. Sharpe informed her that the sprinkler system was already in. Mrs. Hmekle asked if there was a~y need to change it im view of models having been there a~d Ms. Sharpe replied that Mr. Johnston put the sprinklers in after removing the models, but that is all.. Motion carried 5-0. OLD BUS I5~ESE Chairman Ryder referred to the recreatiomal vehicle ordinance proposal and stated that before going further, he would lik® to ~riefly review this matter to sum mp what has happened amd statefer the ~enefit of the people ia the audience. A p~lic ~earing was held before the City Co~uacil on October 13. Some of the Board members were present and all received copies of the minutes of that meeting. ~t that hearing, he delivered an introductory statement relating to the problem the City was face~with and expressed the hope that what we proposed would ser~e as an approach to a realistic solution. His impression was that the acceptance of the proposal was gen- erally favorable, hut there was considerable objection to the permit fee, tie-downs, and the matter of paving. It also ~ecame apparent that mamy-people were not aware of the details of the complete proposal nor aware of the provisions in the existing ordinance. No action was taken by the City Council. O~ Tuesday, October 18, the regmlar City Council meeting was held an~ the matter came up. He stated that he was not aware that the City Council had sent this back to the Plaa~ing & Zoning Board and also requested specific recommendations for us in addition to the input given by the people. However, what happened is that in spite of the fact that the matter was referred 5.ack to ms, two members of the Council insisted that the existing ordinance should remain the way it is. In all fairness, he felt this was casual~treatme~t to what we have spent good time and effO~t on. E~has expressed the need for a change. Howewer, since two Comncil members pressed a stand pat sees no need for this Board to ~evote ~ r time matter ~atil it is .made apparent that the Council will accept amy change. He then requested opiaions from-the other Board members. ~Mr. Lambert stated that he questions why the City Council held a publichearinE. It states that the primary purpose of the hearing was for input to hear the pros and cons for the proposed ordinance regulating parking of recreatiomal vehicles for the Planning & Zoning Board as well as for the City Council. He thimks there were three major points brough% MINUTES PLANNING· & ZONI~ BOARD PAGE FOUR OCTOBER 25, 1977 out at the DmBlic hearing. Ne does think the existing law on the books cannot stand. He questions whether it had a~y pmr- pose other than trailer parks and tourist parks. He thinks it is a matter of interpretation whether it even applied to travel trailers or Boat trailers. He Eot out of the public hearing that the fee .for the permit and the decal possibly were not needed. The more he thinks about it, he is not sure it would serve any useful purDose. Chairm~ Ryder clarif±ed that he would like to k~ow how the members feel about continuing this rather than goi~ug into details. Twice he has said to the Council that if they don't do something, they will not resolve the problem. Boca Raton has had all kinds of problems and he explained. This is some- thing they Just ca,met walk away f~rom and he thinks a change is needed. Mrs. Hmckle referred to the City Co~u~cil mimutes and the motion made By Mrs. Jackson to turn this matter over to the Planning & Zoning Board with input from the public and i~put from the Comncil members. She read the discussion following the motion and pointed out that they voted in favor o~ it, hut did not direct ~he Pla~i~g & Zoning Board te add a sec- tio~ on boats and did not ask us to do mmything specifically. She referred to Mr. Ryder asking ~or recommendations a~d directio~ from the City Council, but she ca~not see in that paragraph that they directed ~ to do a~ything except con- sider Something to be added Im regards to boats. ~hairma~Ryder referred to this being a controversial matter and stated maybe the members of the Council don't wa~t to take a stand publicly, ~ut we are left with no pmrpose te continue further. Mr. Lambert stated that he could not figure o~t exactly what the motio~ meant. Chairma~Ry~er referred to two members ef the Council suE- Eesti~g that it be left the way it is, but the other three members did not speak up one way or the other~ He k~ows as a result of that meeting, Mr. Strnad ~aid to leave it alone and Mayor Zack agreed there was no need for change. He th~ks we need somethimg more specific in the interest of the people involved. He does not like for it to come back to ms at this time to feel aremnd with it more. Mrs. Huckle stated she agrees with Mr. Lambert that the motion refers it back to us, But she thinks the Co~cil's input was given under the discussion on the motion. Chairman Ryder added that he thought some use could be made from the input from the public but he is concerned with the remarks from the two Council members. Mr. Arena replied MINUTES ~LANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE FIVE OCTOBER 25, 1977 that the Coumcil voted unanimously in favor to turm it back to us and he thir~ks we have some direction. Chairman Ryder stated he feels it was thrown back to us because he gets the impression that the Council doesn't want to fac$ up to the problem. We have spent three months on this and possibly it should just be left alone. ~, Arena stated that initially when this came up, Mr. Strmad and Mayor Zack had the same feelings as they did last week. We did work on it for three months though. He would be dis- satisfied to sit here and wait for the Council to make a de- cision. He got a lot of different feelings from the public hearing and thimks we should work om it and send it back. Mr. Lambert stated that he thinks part of the big confusiem is the City Coumcil has not studied this for three months like we have. He does mot think an addition cam be made to the existing ordinance on the books. There is a question whether the existing ordinance is related to the issue. He thimks the existing ordinance does not have a~ything to do with this issue.. Chairma~ Ryder agreed that With refer- ence to parking it in a garage, it would take it out of the category of a house trailer. Mr. Lambert continued that if that was the interpretation, boats just could not be added as it would be further confused. F~. Winter suggested hearing from the audience first and stated that he would then like to make his recommendations. Mr. Arena clarified that they were trying to decide whether to continue worki~ng om it and ~. Winter replied that there were a few issues which could stand correction and if the members agree, he thinks they should be corrected or amended and referred back to the City Council. Mrs. Huckle replied that she did not feel this is what the Council directed us to do. Chairman Ryder asked if they felt clear direction was given a~d Mrs. Huckle replied that our purpose is to be an advisory boa_rd and she 4oes~ not think we should spend time on something the Council did not ask us to do. Mr. Winter referred to there being some corrections necessary and Mrs. Huckle agreed, but state~ that the Council is not interested in the ordinance. The Coumcil did not give specific ~irec- tions when Mr. Ryder made the request. Chairman Ryder agreed that we were not being directed in any purposeful mamner at all. Mr. Winter pointed out that only two Comncilmen made Mr. Arena stated that he spoke to the Council members. Mr. Strnad had the same feeling he expressed continually. The ether three he spoke to expressed the opimiom that there were some good points about the ordinance basically, hut some objections were raised and we should work on the objec- tions raised. He thinks the City Council and the public want us to c~ntinme and just to drop it would be ridiculous. MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE SIX OCTOBER 25, 1977 Chairman Ryder stated that apparently many people who wanted to see some change were not aware of the fact that the present ordinance is so restrictive. He explained how they were mot aware of the pertinent facts. He thinks those present had the opportunity to sho~ they wanted a change, but apparently the Council did not get that impression. We have had omr public hearing and the Council has had their public hearing. There is no need to send it back, but a ~ote should have been taken by the Council. He feels some people got tied up in the de- tails and the Co~mcil came to the conclusion to throw it back to us. Ghairman Ryder then asked how many members Eelt we should ge ahead amd Mr. Arena and Mr. Winter replied affirmatively. Mr. Lambert stated he would only proceed on what he feels. He thinks he understands what the Council wants even thomgh mo firm direction was given. Mrs. Huckle and Chairman Ryder disagreed. Chairman Ryder referred to the full Board not being present and suggested getting the additional members' opinions. He suggests leaving it that some of us have indicated we see no direction in which we can go in any constructive manner in view of the fact there have been statements made by two Council members that they feel they do not see any need for a change. Mrs. Huckle suggested drafting a memo to the City Coumcil specifying that we, as a body, are looking for information whether they would like us to conduct additional workshops on this matter and if so, in what areas. She added that to spend a lot of time o~ something the Council has not asked us to do seems pointless. She thinks an official memo shomld be sent requesting a specific answer. Chairma~ Ryder dis- agreed and stated that when the Council members read these minutes, they will be aware of our feelimgs and possibly something like that will be forthcoming. He will not im- plore the Council to do something and Mrs. H~ckle replied that she did not meam that, but wants directions for this Board. Ohairman Ryder replied that he would not be in favor. Chairman Ryder suggested lea~ing it this way until the next meeting and thinking aboUt it~.further and getting opinions from the other members. Mr. Lambert referred to three mem- bers ~ing in favor of continuing and Ohairman Ryder replie~ that he still feels the same way and at the next meeting, he may tmrn it over to the Vice Chairman and abstain from any discussiom of this matter. Mr. Arena suggested contin- uing working om this ordinance and Chairmam Ryder replied that he was not in favor of doing that. Mr. Arena replied that he would be willing to put it im the form of a motion at this time and Chairman Ryder replied that if he does, he would turn it over to someone else and would not take part MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE SEVEN OCTOBER 25, 1977 in the disc~sion. He added that it is not a pressing matter or it would not be here and the Council would have taken ac- tion. Mr. Arena replied that he feels it is a pressing issue. He referred to Mr. Ryder taking the opimion of Mr. Strnad and saying it is the opinion of the entire Council and he does not agree. It was a motion and it was voted en 4-0. He think~ some of the things which came out at the public hearing will take time to set up.~ Some recreation vehicle organizations are willing to come into the City to give information and he is willing to hear it.~ If it is postponed, some members of the Board may be missing again. Chairman Ryder replied that it was not debatable and if action is take~, he will refraim unless it is left ~mntil the next Board meeting when we will ha~e the consens~s of the others. Mrs° Huckle referred to the last part of the discussiom on the motion indicatImg there was a mi~m~ in the Council mem-~ bors' Eeelings of what they were voting on and Chairman Ryder agreed. ~s. H~ckle added that in reading the discus- sion~ it did not sound like they were for the original motiem. She does ~ot kuow if they wanted an amendment on the existimg ordinance er the motio~ made. Based om the ambiguities of thisbe?paragraph, it seem~ it is not a~ adequate motion. Mr. Lambert referred te three-of the members being pretty sure of the understanding of the Cemncil's motiom a~d made a motion to continme discussion of the recreational vehicle ordinance, seconded by Mr. Arena. Motion carried 3-2 with Mrs. Huckle and Chairman Ryder dissenting. ~airmanRyder then announced they would now hear from the people in the audience and ~s. Huckle referred to this mot being a public hearing and q~estioned the reason f~r this. Chairman Ryder replied that in all fairness to the people present, he think~ they should be permitted t~ speak. Mr. Lambert made a motion that the public be heard at this meeting, seconded by Mr. Winter. Motion carried 3~2 with Mrs. Hmckle and Chairman Ryder dissenting. Mrs. Huckle then a~nounced that she would excuse herself from this meeting. She is never against the people speaking on a topic on the agenda, but her belief is that we have not been directed to pursue this topic and technically it is not en the agenda. If that is the only other topic ~uder dis- cussion, she will excuse herself from the meeting. She does not feel it serves any purpose to pursue this. Chairm~_n Ryder replied thathe agreed with her, But feels the people should be heard. At this time, ~s. Huckle left. Mr. Lambert announced that with both members abstaining, they could not take official action, but will continme with the meeting. Chairma~ Ryder replied there was no need for official action. MINUTES PLAN~ING & ZONING BOARD PAGE EIGHT 0C~ TOBER 25, 1977 Mr. Bill Humphreys, 143 S. W. 24th Avemue, appeared before the Board and stated he could see the predicamemt. He can see the Chairman's discontent and Mrs. Huckle's positiom. He referred to the Ce~ucil being confused and not knowing how they voted and stated that they all need to know that the public feels this is important and needs some action. He kuows this Board worked hard for three months and came up with a good ordinance, but it needs to be refined on a few points. They felt after the public hearing, it would come back to the Pla~ing & Zoning Board for some refimement and then ge back to the City Council. He agrees this Board should have held the pub. lie hearing. Unfortunately, the o about it ~r~ If the ordinance was explained ia paper, there would mot have been the arguments and mit picking. The people heard the points of the ordinamce without seeing the ordinance. The Board did on She ordinance. The p~bli¢ did not know what a ~ this Board did and the City Co~mcil was so about the old and new ordinances. Ne thin, ks this Board reali~ the k~ow what i with the cam to try to ~ity Ceunci~ can easily from ~ow, far with would permits do around be best to from the a ou~ the It's poss tion. The they then it the Board a~out the help serve a a to give time. ordinance amd ~th. He th referred serve the Comncil. job shomld refine ~0 they don't the Board should make chamges ~ information they members, are here tonight back. The Somebody but six months has gone pretty inue. They If the already going ~s it may wait £or mi~ [formed the new one. won't give direc- the ordinance necessary and il. He thinks quit worrying Mr. Eeril 2563 S. W. 10th Court, appeared before the Board and the motion~de by the City Council and Mr. ~n~unz to read it from the minutes. Mr. Kruger referred to the actually ~oting on this motion and Chairman Ryder pointed out that two members said to leave it as it is. Mr. Kruger continued that he would like to give input re- garding changes to be made. The four things to discuss should be: the $5.00 fee, tie-downs, decals, and pavinE. MINUTES PLANNING & ZON~G BOARD P~_GE NINE OCTOBER 25, 1977 Mr. Kruger told about being a Zoning Investigator with Palm Beach County. and part of his job being the investigation of complaints on recreational vehicles. The County has no fee, no decals, etc., but go out when there is a complaint. The inspectors in Boynton Beach will be out looking at these anyway. Ee referred to a recreational vehicle Being parked illegally and stated that it would be a violation and the ownership could be checked by the license plates, so there is no need for a permit or decal. Mr. A~nunziato replied that the flee was not intended to make money and told how the permit was originally ted Based on a site plan for the of the vehicle. He explained how it would be necessary for m~ to check the site to be sure there were tie-downs for vehicle. However, the more things removed, there is less need for inspection. He does not think the doll~ amount was that significant and it would not co~er of a courtesy thing for Department and inspection that when they first site ~lan and a decal Be ~owever~ that the permit, ful He added the .ich the 3 ft. side for the City. It was more the owner, Building tie-downs. Mr. Lambert added out they re~uiring a to it was registered. input, he is in agreement ~mld not serve any use- impression from to do away with With taking out these few things, the ordinance would change. Mr. Lambert then asked for his comments on the hard surface and Mr. Kruger replied that he thought there would be a defi- nition for camper and referred to a slide-on camper for a pickup truck not Being de~in~d? also. Mr. Lambert referred to this being-covered by other units and they discussed fur- ther the actual differences. Mr. Kruger then stated they would ru~ into Drohlem~ with vans and explained how these were u~ed the same as cars. ¥~. Kruger asked just what inspection would be needed for and Mr. Annunmiato asked what an ordinance was needed for and Mr.. Kruger re~lied that an ordinance was needed ~ecause recreatiomal vehicles are not allowed now. Chairman Ryder stated that mention was made at the public hearing about the lack of definition, but everyone always has something to add. ~o Kruger stated that he thought van could be dropped from this. F~. Winter stated that in their original discussions, they were going to include the exception of vehicles used in daily performance. Mr. Kruger then referred to the side and rear setbacks and stated that mmuy people could not comply with them. He parks his vehicle on the lawn next to his driveway as he only has ?½ ft. on the side. Mr. Annunziato questioned the MINUTES PLANNING & ZONIN~ BOARD PAGE TEN OCTOBER 25, 1977 width of his vehicle and Mr. Krmger informed him it was 7 ft. and told about having a fence and tree in his side yards. Chairman Ryder referred to parking it in the driveway and Mr. Kruger replied that he collectsclassic cars and has four in his driveway. Mr. Lambert referred to parking it in the rear and Mr. Kruger explained how most of the people in his neighborhood spent most of their time in their back yards a~d did not want to look at recreatie~ml vehicles. He prefers to leave it in the front yard where vehicles should be, but it does depend on the neighborhood though. Mr. Krmger referred to the requirement to have it registered and licensed by the State and said that this is already a law. There are other ordinances to cover j~k cars and Mr. ziato replied that there are boats over a year old with the registrations having expired. Mr. Kruger explained how these would be covered with enforcement of the housing ordinance. Mr. Kruger then stated he could not underst~ud the reason for requiring a hard surfaced area and they can just require the grass to be trimmed and Chairman Ryder replied that it would not serve the same purpose and he does not think it looks good being parked on the lawn. Mr. Kruger then told about speaking to the Building Official in reg~ards to tie-downs and told how motor homes, travel trailers, and p~-up campers are made of steel and built to withstand traveling on the highways at 80 te 90 mp~. Mr. Gene Johnsom, Laurel Hills, appeared before the Board and referred to there being a lot of discussion. He suggested the Board and City Council getting together to work on this and Chairman Ryder replied that would not be workable aud is why the Gouncil sent it back to this Board. The Coumcil would not be prepared to spend the amount of time that this Board spent on it. Mr. Johnso~ then asked how many members on the Board owne~ recreational vehicles and Mr. Winter replied aflirmati~ely. Mr. Johnson then referred to the other speakers covering it pretty well and stated he thinks they are in agree- ment that something in a~ordinance is needed, but they need input from the City Council. Ne has some proposa~swhich he got from other ~people- An ~xplanation is needed of what a recreational vehicle is. He proposes that vans and pickup trucks with toppers be listed the same as passenger cars ~ot to exceed 3/4 ton. Travel trailers shomld ~ot exceed 28 ft. to be parked at the side of a residence. If it is impossi- ble to park it in the side or rear, there should be a letter from the neighbors stating their okay to said vehicle er boat and it should be filed with the Building Department or Planning & Zoning Board. The vehicle shall not exceed above the roof line of the house. The vehicle must have current license plates and be usmble, boats the same. No overnight MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE ELE~N OCTOBER 25, 1977 parking on public right-of-way. Vehicle or boat to be en hard surface and his definition would be shell rock. He basically feels most people who li~e in Boynton Beach keep their properties up and do net want weeds growing arced their vehicles. Ee feels this whole thing came to a head because of a couple isolated complaints in the whole City. The people with campers and motor homes over 28 ft. have a big investment and he thinke the City should prov.ide a fenced the parking of these Mrs. BarBara Kruger, 2563 S. W. lOth Court, appeared before the Board and stated she was really against the reqmirement of a hard surface. She explained how neighbors would have a slab to look at when they were using their camper a couple times a month, plus other people going away ~or months. She told about people mowing around their vehicles when mowing the rest of their lawn and if there are weeds, they will be all ever. GhairmanRyder informed her that a hard surface was dm the side or rear, But only in the front. There iscussion about this and Mrs. Kruger stated that this was not understood previously and thanked them for the clarification. Mrs. then requested that there be some kind of commit- tee to complaints and Mr. Lambert disagreed and explained how the people would begat the mercy of their neighbors. ~hairman Ryder agreed there were problems, but stated if there was nothing to enforce it, the matter could not be resolved. He then ascertained that nobody else desired to speak. He announced the Board was very much interested in coming up with some kind of solution. He thinks perhaps some of the things were clarified now° Paving all around is not neces- sary. The tie-downs and permit fees are negotiable. However, it must be recognized when we go to this extent, the City should have a per~it procedure and an ordinance to enforce it. ADJOUPJ~MENT Mr~ Winter made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Arena. Motion carried 4-0 and the meeting was properly adjourned at 8:55 P. M. Respectfully submitted, Suzanne M. Kruse Re cording Se crc tary (Two Tapes) AGENDA PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD Regular Meeting DATE: TIME: PLACE: October 25th, 1977 7:30 P.M. Council Chambers City Hall t. Acknowledgement of Members and Visitors. 2. Reading and Approving of Minutes. 3. Announcements. 4. Communications. 5. Old Business: Preliminary copy of City Council minutes of 10-18-77 Re: Recreational Vehicle Ordinance Proposal New Business: A. Site Plan Approval 1. Colonial Club Condominium, Section 1 Applicant: Ms. Nellie Sharpe. for Association 2. Legal Description: Acreage 3. Location: Former location of sales models 4. Project Description: landscaped park area and eight (8) parking spaces