Minutes 08-03-77MINUTES OF THE WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE PLA~¥NING & ZONING BOARD
HELD AT CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 3', 1977 AT 3:00 P. M.
PRESENT
Simon Ryder, Chairman
Richard Lambert
Mrs. ~ry Schorr
Garry Winter
Carmen Annunziato, City Planner
ABSENT
Col. Walter M. Trauger, Vice Chairman
Ronald Arena (Excused)
Mrs. Marilyn Huckle (Excused)
(Excused)
Chairman Ryder called the meeting to order at 3:05 P. M. and
announced that this meeting represents the fourth workshop
meeting devoted to the ordinance regarding parking and stor-
ing of recreation vehicles.
Announcements
Chairman Ryder announced that there would be no regular meet-
ing of the Planning & Zoning Board on August 9 as Mr. Annunziato
will be away, but he has arranged things so this can be done.
Chairman Ryder announced there was going to be a meeting re-
garding the pa~king and storing of recreation vehicles held
at the Boca Raton City Hall tonight at 7:30 P. M. He be-
lieves the members are aware that Boca Raton has been opera-
ting under a temporary ordinance. He plans to attend this
meeting this evening and assumes anyone else who would care
to go would be welcome.
Chairman Ryder announced that Col. Trauger had every inten-
tion of being present today, but was called away for business.
Also, Mrs. Huckle had to work at her husband's office today
and Mr. Arena is away on vacation.
Nzinutes of July 13 ~ 19.77 Workshop Meet~i~ng
Mr. Lambert made a motion that the minutes of the July 13
Workshop Meeting be approved as written, seconded by Mr.
Winter. Motion carried 4-0,
MinuteS of .July 20~ 1977 Workshop. Meeting
Mr. Winter made a motion that the minutes be approved for
the July 20 meeting, seconded by Mr.'Lambert. Motion car-
ried 4-0.
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Discussion
Chairman Ryder referred to distributing copies of a draft
prepared by Mr. Ann~uziato and himself at the last meeting
for the members, review. Mr. Annunziato suggested reading
it page by page and discussing it section by section and
the members agreed.
Chairman Ryder read the title: "Parking and Storage of
Recreational Vehicles and Boats and/er Boat Trailers" and
pointed out that it differed from the present one on the
books to cover the present purposes.
Chairman Ryder read Section I~ - Purpose. Mr. Lambert asked
if they were possibly leaving something out of the definition
of this ordinance or chapter with not covering recreational
~ehicle trailers and he explained how there were such trailers
for swamp buggies, half tracks, racing carm, glider planes,
etc. There was discussion about these and it was agreed not
to mention it in the heading, but to define them in the ordi-
nance.
Chairman Ryder read Section II - Scope. M~. Lambert referred
to "residentially zoned areas" stated and asked about other
zoned areas. Chairm~uRyder suggested adding an additional
sentence that this would not be applicable in developments
where deed restrictions are observed with more restrictive
covenants and Mr. Annmnziato and Mr. Lambert disagreed. Mr.
Lambert clarified that he was asking about commercial and
industrial zones and Mr. Annunziato informed him that the
only zone where you could park a recreational vehicle is in
the M-1 zone which permits parking and storage of ~ehicles.
Mr. Lambert referred to commercial zones being left open
and ~. Annunziato explained how it would be ~ zoning viola-
tion.
Chairman Ryder read Section ti~ - Definitions, Paragraph (a)
Recreation Vehicle. Mr. Lambert questioned why the width of
8 ft. was stated and Chairman Ryder informed him that he had
looked into this and finds where they deal with limitations,
this is generous. Mr. Winter added that a 10 ft. wide vehi-
cle could not be towed by a car. Mr. Lambert suggested just
stating which may legally be driven or towed by a passenger
vehicle and not placing this restriction. M~o Winter informed
him that he didn't think over 8 ft. was legal and ~. Lambert
questioned why it was even included then. Chairman Ryder in-
formed him that it did appear in other codes. ~. Winter
added that it would eliminate t0 ft. also.
Mro Lambert then asked where the length of 35 ft. came from
and ~. Winter informed him that 50 ft. was the overall limit
on the open highway. ~. Lambert told about some people hav-
ing the impression that 35 ft. was too big and Chairman Ryder
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informed him that this was taken from another city ordinance
and could be made more restrictive. Mr. Winter stated he
would not make it more restrictive. Mr. Annunziato ques-
tioned the size of the l~gest driven one and Mr. Winter tol~
about Bluebirds being 42 ft. long and 8 ft. wide. They
agreed that 35 ft. was lenient and to leave it as iS.
Chairman Ryder asked if the recreational vehicle trailers
which Mr. Lambert referred to should be i~cluded in this
paragraph and this was discussed. It was then agreed to add
the following sentence to this paragraph: "Included in this
definition are all other sport type recreational vehicles and
the trailers used to store or transport all such vehicles."
~. Lambert then asked if they should state: "which may -~
legally be driven or towed by a passenger vehicle on a high-
way", as he questions passenger vehicle and if it has been
defined. It was agreed to take out "by a passenger vehicle".
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph (b) Building Department. He
advised this was the same as in the present ordinance and
there were no comments.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph (c) Governing Authority. He
stated this was copied from the present ordinance and there
were no comments.
Chairman Ryder read the title of Section IV. Mr. Lambert
referred to including recreational vehicle trailers and ~M.
Annunziato stated that it did not have to be listed again
as it was included in the definition.~of recreational vehicle.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph (a) Public Rights-of-Way and
advised that this appeared in most of the codes. Mr. Ls~bert
questioned the period of one hour and after discussion, it
was agreed not to change it.
Chairman Ryder read Ps~agraph (b) Private Property in Resi-
dentially Zoned Areas. He pointed out that the only excep-
tion was if it is kept in a totally enclosed garage. ~.
Annunziato suggested changing "procured" to ~secured~ and
the members agreed.
Chairman Ryder read ~ection V, Paragraph (a). Mr. Lambert
then questioned the difference between paragraphs I and 7
and Chairman Ryder informed him that No. 7 covers the num-
Ber of vehicles and No. I defines the instances. Mr.
Lambert stmted he felt these two should be tied together
and feels a vehicle parked in a carport should be counted
in the number and not be separate. Also, he does not see
what difference it makes how many sides a carport is enclosed.
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There was a lengthy discussion about the construction of car-
ports and the appearance of vehicles parked on carports. They
also discussed the necessity of stating "enclosed on at least
two sides". Finally agreeing to delay a decision on this, they
proceeded.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 2. Mr. Lambert stated that hard
surface must be defined and this was discussed. They also
discussed the appearance of vehicles parked on the grass.
Mr. Annunziato pointed out that a hard surfaced area was not
required for parking in the side or rear yards. They discussed
whether the clarification was significant between Paragraphs
2 and 3. It was then agreed to add in Paragraph 2: between
the structure and front property line.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 3. Mrs. Schorr referred to most
homes having only 7 ft. side setbacks and Chairman Ryder told
about viewing the situation in Golfview Harbour. He pointed
out that parking would be permitted in the side or rear yards
if physically possible. After discussion, they' decided the
setbacP~ as stated were reasonable.
Chairman Ryder read Pa~agraph 4. .Mr. Winter made the addition
of owned and/or used.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 5o Mr. Lambert suggested the
addition after registered of "and licensed" and after discus-
sion, the members agreed.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 6. Mr. Annunziato referred to
this being redundant with having made the addition to No. 2
and it was agreed to delete this addition from No. 2. Mr.
Lambert asked if there was a reason for having these spread
out and M~. Annunziato informed him they could be rearranged.
Mr. Lambert referred to "other hard surfaced area'~ mentioned
and pointed out that grass was still not mentioned. Mr.
Winter and Chairman Ryder explained that they thought No. 3
covered parking on the grass and I~M. Lambert requested the
City Planner to consider this further to be sure it is ade-
quately covered. Mrs. $chorr referred to corner lots having
driveways on the side. They discussed further the distinc-
tion between Paragraphs 2, 3 and 6 and also the definition
of hard surfaced areas. Finally it was agreed to en~ Para-
graph 2 with the word driveway and No. 6 would cover it.
~. Lambert referred to "street" possibly creating problems
in No. 6 and they decided to change it to "right-of-Way~.
Mr. Lambert questioned "front building line" and after dis-
cussion, it was agreed to change this to "structure".
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 7 and in view of thair previ-
ous discussion, it was agreed to end this with garage.
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Chairman Ryder read Paragraph (b). Mr. Lambert asked if a
period of possibly 60 or 90 days should be given to imple-
ment this and after discussion, Mr. Annunziato stated he
did not think it was necessary to include this~period for
implementation.
Chairman Ryder read Section VI, Paragraph (a), Sub-Paragraph
1. NE. Lambert referred to the last sentence and asked if a
Burden wam going to be put on the Building Department to
determine what is acceptable and what is not acceptable for
securing a vehicle. There was a lengthy discussion about
how the vehicles could be secured, how this could be enforced,
etc. It was then agreed to delete the last sentence of this
paragraph.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 2. Mr. Lambert questioned how
leng the decs~ would be valid and Mr. Winter replied that it
could be forever. Chairman Ryder stated he believed it was
their understanding that it would not have to be renewed
each year. l~. Lambert stated that it would be defeating
part of the purpose and ?-M. Winter replied that this was an
ordinance to maintain regulation.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 3 and added that he thought
this was necessary to give some flexibility.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraph 4 and pointed out there was no
mention of any period of time. Mr. Winter questioned if a
boat and trailer would cost $10.00 and ~. Annunziato in-
formed him that a boat and trailer goes together and would
be $5.00.
Mr. Lambert stated that he would like to point out reasons
why the decal should not be good forever as he thinks it
would be defe~ting the purpose. He explained how the license
and registration could expire after the ~ecal was obtained.
There was a lengthy discussion about this and then M~.
Annunziato referred to Section V (a) and pointed out that if
any of these conditions were violated, and a current regis-
tration and license is one of the conditions, the Building
Department could take action and require it.
Mr. Annunziato asked if they were in agreement with the $5.00
fee and the general consensus of opinion was that it would
be adequate, but it was suggested that ~. Annunziato dis-
cuss this with Mr. Howell.
Chairman Ryder read Paragraphs (a), (b), and (c) of Section
VII. He clarified that these were conditions Mr. Annunziato
added referring to other applicable regulations.
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~o Winter suggested adding Section VIII to cover violations.
Mr. Annunziato informed him this would be the general ordi-
nance and would have to be enforced like any other ordinance
with someone making a complaint and possibly going to court.
He suggests posSibly making Section VIII - Penalties for
NOnconformance or Violation of this Chapter and leave Mr.
Moore prepare the wording and the members agreed.
Chairman Ryder asked if ~. Annunziato could prepare a re-
vised draft including the revisions made today for review
at their meeting on August 23. He feels they can revise it
into the final form at that meeting and make a recommendation
to the City Council. The Council could then proceed with
consideration and a hearing. Mr. Annunziato agreed and stated
he would have it retyped and sent out.
~o Lambert stated that he thought Mr. Ryder and Ms. Annunziato
had done an excellent job on this first draft and he thinks
their suggestion of the two of them meeting definitely worked
out.
Adjournment
Mrs. Schorr made a motion to adjourn, seconded by ~. La~bert.
Motion carried 4-0 and the meeting was properly adjourned at
5:00 P. M.
Respectfully submitted,
Suzanne M. Kruse
Recording Secretary
(Two Tapes)
CHAPTER 30
Parking and Storage of Recreational Vehicles and Boats
and/o~'Boat'Trailers ....
Section I Purpose
The purpose of this ordinance is to regulate the parking
and storage of recreational vehicles and boats and/or boat
trailers. These regulations are intended for and in the best
interest of the citizens of Boynton Beach to provide easy
access to recreational vehicles while promoting the health,
safety and welfare of all the citizens of Boynton Beach.
Section II Scope
These regulations are intended to be applicable in all
residentially zoned areas Within the City limits of Boynton
Beach.
Section III
ae
Definitions
Recreation Vehicle
Any travel trailer, motor home, pick-up camper, van
or other unit built or mounted on a chassis, designed
without permanent' foundations, which is used for
temporary dwelling or sleePing purposes and which
may legally be driven or towed by a passenger vehicle
on a highway, and which body length does not exceed
35 feet and total body width does not exceed 8 feet,
1
or any boat or boat trailer.
Building Department
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Building department shall mean such department or
any division thereof created or established by auth~'
ority of the city, and entrusted With the regulation,
control, and supervision of all matters pertaining
to buildings and structures of any nature and their
appurtenances, roadways, sidewalks, lighting, ventil-
ation and zoning; and in the absence of such depart-
ment, it shall refer to the governing authority of
the City of Boynton Beach-.
Governing Authority
Governing authority shall mean the city council which
is elected and qualified by and for the city.
Section IV
Se
Parking and Storage of Recreational Vehicles,
Boats, and/or Boat Trailers
Public Rights-of-Way
No recreational vehicle, boat and/or boat trailer shall
be parked or stored on any public right-or-way for a
period exceeding one (1) hour.
Private Property in Residentially Zoned Areas
No recreational vehicle, boat and/or boat trailer,
not kept in a totally enclosed garage, may be kept,
parked or stored on any private residentially zoned
property within the limits of the City without having
first procured a special permit from the Building
Official.
Section V
Page three
Parking of'Recreational Vehicles, Boats and/or
Boat T~ailer permittedUnder' Special' Permit on
PriVate Residentially 'Zoned' Property ~.
Under special permit, parking or storing of recreation
vehicles, boats and/or boat trailers on privatepr0-
perty may be permitted under the following conditions:
1. That the recreation vehicle, boat and/or boat
trailer be parked or stored in a carport enclosed
on at least-two sides..
2. That the-recreation vehicle or boat and/or boat
trailer be .parked or stored on a driveway or
other hard surfaced area.
3. That the recreation vehicle, boat and/or boat
trailer be stored in side or rear Y~r~ - not
closer than 5 feet of the rear lot line nor 3
feet of the side lot line and not projecting
beyond the. front roof line.
4. That the recreation vehicle, boat and/or boat
trailer must be owned and used by a resident o~
the premises.
That the recreation vehicle, boat and/or boat
trailer is currently registered by State and
Federal Law.
That no recreation Vehicle, boat and/or boat
trailer be parked between the street and the
front building line unless on a driveway or
other hard surfaced area.
That the total number of vehicles (other than
passenger vehicles) so parked or stored shall be
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limited to 2 - not including~ those kept in'La
. garage or carport enclosed on at least two sides.
For the parking or storage of any vehilce (other'
than passenger cars) on private .property, the owner/
resident shall-apply for and obtain a permit from
the Building OffiCial prior to the parking or storage
of such vehicle. A permit shall be obtained for each
such vehicle which shall be valid only so long as the
owner of such vehicle remains a resident of such pro-
perty.'
Section VI
~edure
a. The Building official shall grant the permit subject
to the following provisions:
1. That the applicant indicates on a site plan of
his property, accompanying his application, the
proposed locations of the Vehidles to be parked
or stored and attests that they will be parked
or stored entirely on his own property in a safe
and orderly manner and that vehicles parked or
stored on a driveway will not be a hazard to
people entering the driveway or.~t~ persons pass-
ing on the sidewalk. Applicant shall indicate,
also, how' vehicles are to be secured in advance
of hurricane warnings.
2. The Building Official shall issue a permit decal
for each permit granted pursuant to thissection
which shall be affixed and maintained on the vehicle.
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Section VII
The decal shall be removed when it is no lOnger
valid purSuant to this section.
The City Manager may establish administrative re-
gulations to aid in the administration of the pro-
visions of this chapter.-
The permit fee for each recreational vehicle, boat
'and/or boat trailer shall be five (5) dollars.
Other'vehicles
a. It shall be unlawfull to occupy any recreational
veh'icle herein define'while said vehicle is parked
or stored on private property unless such use is
specifically permitted in the applicable zoning dis-
trict.
b. Construction trailers shall be permitted as outlined
in Section 4 (H) of Appendix A of the Boynton Beach
code.
c. Mobile H°mes~ as defined in Section 1, General Definitions,
of Appendix A of the Boynton Beach code shall be per-
mitted'in aputicabtY zoned districts.