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Minutes 05-15-75MI~IUTES OF THE SPECI~ MEETING OF T~- ~.A~NI1NG; '~' ~ & ZONING BOARD HELD AT CI~ HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, THURSDAY, MAY 15, 1975 AT 7:30 P. M. PR~.~SENT Joseph T. Kelly, Chairman ~rs ~ Vicki Castel!o John I. Rogers Enrico Rossi Oris ~alker ABSENT Col. ~Walter M. Trauger, Vice Chman Mrs. Marilyn Huckle (Excused) Jack Barrett, Building Official (Excused) Chairman Kelly called the special meeting of the Pl~uning & Zoning Board of the City of Boynton Beach to order at 7:40 P.M. He took roll call and announced that Col. Trauger was excused on account of business and ~s. Huckle was excused on account of a foot injury. He also added that Mr. Barrett,s wife was the only audience present. ~. Barrett referred to Yachtsman's Cove which they tabled at their previous regular meetingbecause~ the stamps were missing. He informed the Board that this~s~ a subdivision and does no~ go before the other Boards, but just before the Planning & Zoning Board and City Council. Chairman Kelly stated he thought any predecessor of the Planning & Zoning Board should know about things they should know. ~. Rossi questioned if the T.R.B. did not have to stamp~ this and ~@. Barrett re- plied: no, not a subdivision. Mr. Rossi euestioned if they reviewed subdivisions and Y~. Barrett informed him that only he Tom Clark, the Plannm~.g & Zoning Board and City Council did. The T.R.B. does not ~eview subdivisions. Chairman Kelly remarked that this was the first he has known about this. M~. Rossi questioned if the fire marshall looked over the plans smd Mr. Barrett replied-. Eo, just the City Engmneer~ and him. He added that when it comes to building on these lots, it is another story. He and Tom Clark state what is necessary ink.regard to sub-grade developments. ~. Walker statsd he was not aware of th~s either. Chairman Kelly stated that they were glad to learn this tonight. Mr. Barrett stated there was no reason to know this before now. He knows they stumbled on this and it was a question of nothav- ~i~g~ his guidance at the previous meeting. Mr. Rossi referred to having submitted some plans to the City and he thought he had to meet with the T.R.B., bmt possibly the format has changed since then. Mr. Barrett stated possibly he was refer- ring to a recreation center or something. If Bob Largent called the T.R.B., he was wr, Sometimes for a large sub- division, they may call in t~ marshall, but it is not required by ordinance. T.R.B. is concerned with construction. MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE TWO MAY 15, 1975 Mr. Rossi referred to plans having a plat coming before the City Engineer and Building Official and asked if there was a letter from the City Engimeer showing his approval or dis- approval? Mr. Barrett informed him there was no place for it to be indicated and it was largely verbal. There will be a memo from us when it goes before Council. Mr. Rossi referred to the plan and stated they questioned it because there was a change in the plat regarding a boundary line and adding an easement which the gentleman could not describe. A line was there, but was not noted. Mr. Barrett stated he thought it represented a property line which was not marked. He added that 'the preliminaries were largely the same as this, but there were no storm sewers, easements, indications of development plans, etc. It was approved for prelimins~y approval. After the preliminary, he made these changes and then we required additional changes and he has made them. After they approve it, he 'will submit it to Tom This is what leads is given subject to a few changes. They must also realize the fact that Mr. Abdullah has a little language barrier and he didn't fully understand what they required. He has finally met all the requirements. Mr. Rossi qnestioned if he marked the line. ~. Rogers added that he d~d indicate that it was an ease- ment line. Mr. Barrett replied that he has not had the plan to mark the line, but this is minor. He doesn't think the easement line is required for four water front lots. Maintenance of the seawall on private property is the property owner's responsibility. He believes Mr. Ahdullah didn't understand quite what Tom Clark wanted. Chairman Kelly stated that ~. Abdullah~did have an associate width him involved with the property on the highway and possibly he should be brought along to clarify things, [~. Barrett informed him that he is getting there slowly and it would be an insult to him, as he does speak, the language. The members looked at the plan and Mr. Rossi pointed out the line they mentioned. M~. Barrett stated he woUld have it corrected before going to Council. and the line will be indi- cated. Mr. Rossi added that ~,~. Abdullah directed their attention to this end of the property and then when they asked the question, he couldn't answer. M~s. Castello asked who owned the property to the north and ~. Barrett informed her it was Seaview Trailer Park. Mr. Rogers made a motion to recommend to City Council the proposed final plat for Yachtsman's Cove for approval with the stipulation that the line that doesn't have a designa- tion be removed or marked with the designation. Mr. Rossi seconded the motion. Motion carried 5-0. MINU~S L,A~INING & ZONING BOARD PAGE THP~E MAY ~5, ~975 M~. Barrett referred to the Broward Bank plan they tabled at their previous regular meeting and their concern regard- ing ingress and egress. He informed them that 18th Avenue was a dead end street. The bank property runs 550 feet deep and they will pave the additional footage on the street to reach the drive-in. Everybody has looked at this, but the Police Department failed to sign it. They have nothing call- ing for an impact study. It is a dead end street and there are only two properties on it. 1~. Rogers remarked that a dead end street was worse than a through street with traffic going in and out. M~. Barrett informed him that the drive-in tellers would be on the other side of the street. ~. Rogers stated the plan showed drive-in tellers also on this side of the street. Mr. Barrett stated there were two sets of plans and he suggested they look at them. ~. Rogers pointed out that 18th Avenue did not have ~ traffic light at U. S. 1. Mr. Rossi asked if the temporary drive-in tellers were going to be phased out and Mm. Barrett replied: no, they are going to leave them there. The bank has purchased property all the way back, which is quite a large piece of property for a bank. ~ir. Rossi stated they should require a traffic count, possibly require them to acquire additional rights-of-way on the street for paving, and if a traffic signal is required in the future, they should have to pay for it. Mr. Barrett replied they did not have the authority to require this. They do require cer- tain things, but not these. Mr. Rossi remarke~ that the developem should have some knowledge of traffic. Mr. Barrett replied he could tell the architect that thLs is what the ?lanning & Zoning Board wants. M~. Rossi added that he thought they needed trip generation. Mr. Barrett stated he thought the plan was fouled up with being Voided and possi- bly some things are not .included and some included which should have been left out. He indicated the property they own. M~. Rossi asked if there were any provisions to e~tend the road and M~. Barrett replied: no. Mrs. Castello remarked that it really wasn't good with having only one street. Mr. Rossi referred to the traffic and questioned if there was a turn-around at the end of the street and Mr. Barrett replied: no. Mr. Rossi questioned if they could be required to make one and Mr. Barrett replied he didn,t think they could, since they do not own the property at the end. Mr. Rogers sug- gested possibly asking them to provide a tUrn-arOund in their area. Mr. Barrett re.plied they could ask for this. Mr. Rossi stated they should check into traffic signalization and Mr. Barrett replied he doubted they would provide it, but the Board could request it. Mr. Rogers made a motion to return to the submittor for further requirements for traffic study, for an agreement for a turn-around, even though temporary at this time, pay for future signalization when and if r~quired and clarifi- cation of floor plan. Mrs. Castello seconded the motion. Motion carried 5-0. MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE FOUR MAY 15, 1975 Chairman Kelly announced this concluded the two points the special meeting was called for. Mr. Rogers made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mrs, Castello. Motion carried 5-0 and the meeting was properly adjourned at 8:O8 P. M.