Minutes 05-13-75MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ~!EETING OF THE PLANNING & ZONING BOARD
HELD AT CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, T~ESDA¥, MAY 13,
1975 AT 7:30 P. M.
PRESENT
Joseph T. Kelly, Chairma~
Col. Walter M. Trauger, Vice Chman
Mrs. Marilyn Huckle
John I. Rogers
Enrico Rossi
Oris Walker
ABSENT
~s. Vicki Castello (Excused)
Chairman Kelly called the regular meeting of the Planning &
Zoning Board to order at 7:38 P. M. He welcomed the three
gentlemen present and adVised they would be heard later in
turn. He then introduced the members of the Board and an-
nounced that Mrs. Castello was excused, but possibly would
arrive later.
Chairman Kelly ascertained each member had received a notice
of the public hearing. Mrs. Huckle pointed out that the
public hearing was schsduled for 7:30 and suggested they
possibly postpone reading of the minutes and the Chairman
agreed.
PUBLIC k~EARING
Parcel #1 - Lot 32, Block 17
Rolling Green Ridge 1st Addition
Recorded in Plat Book 24, Page 224
Palm Beach County Records
Address - 170 N. E. 27th Court
Applicant - Ann L. Siarto
Request - Conditional Use to allow
Child Care Center
Chairman Kelly read the above notice. He asked if anyone
was present in favor of this request and received no response.
He then asked if anyone was present in opposition to this
request and the following appeared before the Board.
Mr. Julian Patrick stated his name and his address as 2585
S. W. lOth Street. He informed the Board that he was appear-
ing in two categories, one as representative of Rolling Green
Ridge Properties. He stated that when this property was sold
to these people, it was deed restricted to single family resi-
dences. Col. Trauger a~ked him to show the location on the
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plot Dlan and Mr. Patrick pointed it out. Mr. Walker ques-
tioned'the City zoning and Mrs. Huckle replied that under
the current zoning code, nursery schools are permitted uses
under conditional use under R-1. She read the code pertain-
ing to this. Mr. Walker asked if the State Board held prece-
dence over the City and Mr. Patrick informed him that the
State Department of Education has no control over nursery
schools and this was an error in the ordinance. They are
regulated by Palm Beach County and it is carried out by the
Health Department. Col. Trauger questioned the determination
of need for this area and. Chairman Kelly informed him that
he did not have the reason for the request, but only had re-
ceived the public notice. He added that one resident,
Keil, opposed the establishment of this school. ~Ms. Huckle
added that they should have a~:copy of the application from
the petitioner. Mr. Wessen informed the Board that the house
was presently listed for sale and he questiOned if the buyer
was planning this school and the members could not answer.
I~. Walker questioned if it would be necessary to hes~ the
objections, since they didn't have the petition? Chairman
Kelly stated that he tries to be fair on all occasions. He
stated that the public notice was given and the applicant
named and
center.
recommends that they do not deny it. It comldn't have gotten
'this far without a petition. Col. Trauger suggested that
they hear the objectors present.
Mr. Patrick continued that he came as a representative for
Rolling Green Ridge Associates and the people who have pur-
chased property. They bought property knowing there were
deed restrictions limiSing the area to single family resi-
dences. He also comes as the owner of Boynton Academy and
Mi~ Little's School. In reference to there being a need,
he maintains there is no need in that ~icinity for additional
child care centers. He has a capacity of 150 at his school,
but only has 70 children. His existing facility has room
and he doesn't believe there is a need for another facility.
Mr. Paul Wesson stated his name and his address as 5596
Western Way, Lake Worth. He informed the Board that he
operates the Storybook School at 393 Minor Road. He
stated that he is a happy competitor of ME. Patrick and
he is also under-enrolled and agrees there is no need for
another school. His capacity is 90 and he only has 70 to
75 and he anticipates a decrease. His school is located a
few blocks north of this location and Mr. Patrick's school
is located a few blocks south. Col. Trauger questioned why
he anticipated an enrollment drop and M~. Wessen replied
with summer smd the state of the economy. Mr. Patrick
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added that a house of this nature would require radical
changes to use this home for a school per the requirements.
He gave examples of how the construction would have to be
altered. He also referred to the current ordinance limiting
space in a home for the occupation and stated he didn't be-
lieve there was a home in that area more than 1,000 square
feet. Only' 250 square feet would be usable and the require-
ment is 35 square feet for eaCh child. He stated again that
they didn't thi~.there was a need with their additional
capacity.
~Ms. Huck~le~made a motion that in the absence of a petitioner
and petition for this request for a conditional use for a
child care center, they table this application until they
have additional information to act on. Mr. Walker seconded
the motion. Motion carried 6-0.
Mr. Patrick requested that he and ~. Wes~en be notified
when this request was reconsidered. Chairman Kelly assured
him that they would certainly be notified.
Mr. Rossi stated it was hard for him to evaluate this appli-
cation right now with the information they have. They must
have all the facts. Here is someone asking for the use of a
piece of property and they do not know if it meets all re-
quirements. Chairman Kelly agreed. ~. Rossi continued that
possibly the applicant did not submit this data.
Chairman Kelly announced that the public hearing to hear
~s. Siarto,s request for a child care center would now
come to a close at 8:00 P. M.
Chairman Kelly suggested they hear the other representative
present before proceeding with the reading of the minutes
and the members agreed.
OLD BUS I~ESS
Cove - Final .~pproval
~. Abdallah stated his name and that he represented Yachts-
man's Cove. He informed the Board that there were some
technical corrections on the plan and they would like final
approval. Chairman Kelly showed the plan which they approved
originally to familiarize the members. He then showed the
new plan. M~. Abdallah showed where the line was added.
Mr. Rossi questioned if the change came about because of the
City,s requirements or because of ~. Abdallah~s feelings?
M~. Abdallah stated he felt it was proper and he explained
the change pertaining to the seawall. He showed where an
easement was made. ~. Rossi questioned if it was moved
back because of the submerged land and Mr. Abdallah replied
that they found it was best to follow the line and not fill
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in any land. ~. Walker asked if this was the only change
and M~. Abdallah replied: yes. ~M. Rossi questioned the
purpose~for the easement shown and M~. Abdallah informed
him that the City Engineer stated there must be an easement
there. Col. Trauger questioned if the easement proposed to
prevent occupation out that far and Mr. Abdallah replied that
it was a shoreline protection easement. He stated they were
asking final approval for the technical corrections. ~.
Rossi stated the easement note should have been noted on the
plan.
Mrs. Huckle askediif the other Boards approved this plan?
Chairman Kelly informed her that Mr. Barrett stated they did
not have to sign this, as this is the original and when
copies are made, the approvals will be noted on them. Col.
Trauger checked the old plans for preliminary approval stamps
and none were noted on these plans. ~@s. Huckle stated
there may be things they don't know about without these
approvals. Chairman Kelly suggested they could give appro-
val subject to approval being given by-the T.R.B., C.A.B.,
etc. Mrs. Huck]e disagreed stating they were supposed to
be about the third Board for approval according to procedure
and they have none of these approvals noted. She also feels
they should have Mr. Barrett or Mr. Bushnell present for
technical advice. She thinks this should be tabled, as it
is pretty vague.
Mrs. Huc~le made a motion to table the request for final
approval of Yachtsman's Cove until they have adequate addi-
tionali~formation. They have no form with any signatures
of the other Boards, such as the Technical Review Board and
Community Appeara~uce Board and they don't have the counsel
of the Building Official or his assistant at this meeting
and this is requested. Col. Trauger seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6-0.
MIB~TES
The minutes of the workshop meeting of April 19, 1975 were
read. Mrs. Huckle moved that the minutes be approved as
submitted, seconded by ~. Rogers. Motion carried 4-0, with
Col. Trauger and Mr. Walker abstaining since they were not
present at this meeting.
The minutes of the re~lar meeting of April 22, t975 were
read. Col. Trauger moved, that the minutes be approved as
submitted, seconded by M~. Walker. Motion carried 6-0.
The minutes of the workshop meeting of April 22, 1975 were
read. Col. Trauger moved that the minutes be approved as
presented, ~econded by Mrs. Huckle. Motion carried 6-0,
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The minutes of the workshop meeting of April 26, 1975 were
read. Chairman Kelly referred to Page 6 and a typographical
error in the word ~residential~. He then referred to Page 12,
fifth sentence, where he stated the City Council would read
the ordi-nance on ~Lmy 6 and this should be May 8. Mr. Walker
moved that the minutes be approved as corrected, seconded by
Mr. Rogers. Motion carried 5-0, with Col. Trauger abstaining
since he was not present at this meeting.
The minutes of the special meeting of May 1, 1975 were read.
Col. Trauger moved that the minutes be accepted as presented,
seconded by Mr. Walker. Motion carried 5-0, with ~s.
Huckle abstaining since she was not present at this meeting.
OLD BUSINESS
Leisureville #10, Lake Roma~- Fins~ App~roval
Mr. Rossi showed the plans and stated as engineer for Boynton
West Development Corporation, he prepared this plan. He gave
the history of the parcels. He stated the developer was
lng to replat two areas, Parcels H and I, into single family
lots in place of multi-family. There will be 43 single family
lots and the density now comes down by one half of what was
originally proposed.
Col. Trauger moved to recommend final approval of Leisureville
#10, Lake Roma, to the City Council. Mr. Rogers seconded t~
motion. Motion carried 5-0, with Mr. Rossi abstaining.
~[ BUS II,TESS
Site Plan A r~
Winn Dixie, Store Addition
320 N. Federal. Highway
Chairman Kelly showed the plan~ and noted approval by the
other Boards. ~. Rogers noted they planned to expand to an
adjoining store and planned an addition on the rear. Chair-
man Kelly read the minutes of the Community Appearance Board
meeting concerning their approval of this plan. Col. Trauger
remarked that this shopping center needs upgrading. Chairman
Kelly informed him that the C.A.B. has been trying for months
and months to get some improvements made here. Mr. Rogers
stated with looking at this si. te plan, the site only actually
changes a little. He agrees it would'be desirable to utilize
this as the wedge to get something done. ~Lr. Rossi questioned
if in the parking requirements there was any distinction made
between super markets and other commercial properties? Chair-
man Kelly read code 422.3 in reference to off-street parluing.
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Mr. Rogers clarified that grocery stores require one space
for every 150 squar, e feet. Mrs. Huckle noted that new park-
ing spaces were noted on the plan. Mr. Rogers stated he
thought the par~ming was adequate as the remaining stores
fall under one for every 300 square feet and this is the
only one that requires one for every I50 square fe~t.
Chairman Kelly stated this was really the concern of the
Techhical Review Bo~d.
Col. Trauger moved to recommend to City Council the site
plan of Winn Dixie at 320 North Federal Highway as pre-
sented for approval. Mrs. Huckle seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6-0.
Broward Bank, Drive-In Tellers
1905 S. Federal Highway
Chairman Kelly showed the plans. Mr. Rogers noted the
drive-in a~d office locations. .Mr. Rossi stated he was
concerned whether there had been a traffic analysis made.
~. Rogers noted the approvals by theoother Boards. Mrs.
Huckle noted that it was not approved yet byythe polic~
nor engineer. Col. Trauger checked the other sets of the
plans and noted approval by these departments was also
not noted. Mrs. Huckle questioned if this was within the
proposed zoning for the depth and they checked the proposed
map. They couldn't find the depth of the property noted on
the plans. ~. Walker remarked that this was only submitted
for site plan approval. Mr. Rogers stated that the zoning
was R-3 west of there, but he didn't k~uow where the line was
drawn. He added that it was signed by Mr. Barrett, which
usually means the zoning is in compliance. Mr. Rossi
pointed out that this would create a tremendous amount of
traffic on a minor street. ~s. Huckle asked how wide the
street was and ~. Rossi stated it was 50 ft. with a road-
bed of 22 feet. ~s. Huckle stated that possibly it was
one way and Mr. Rossi noted that traffic was shown as going
both w~ys. He stated he would like to make a suggestion
that the proposal for the drive-in bank take into considera-
tion the traffic flow in and out, as it may affect traffic
to gain access to west properties to see whether or not
additional rights-of way or pavement should be desired.
~s. Huckle stated that inasmuch as the police have not
signed it, possibly they may make this stipulation.
~. Rogers made a motion to table the Broward Bank plan
until they get better response from the City Engineer and
Police Department in regmrd to Mr. Rossi's question con-
cerning traffic impact. Col. Trauger seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6-0.
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OTHER BUSI~SS
Chairman Kelly informed the members that the Mayor asked
him if they were going to make a formal presentation at the
City Council public hearings. He referred to their meetings
on April 26 and ~Lay 1 and their discussions in reference to
presentation of the map and regulations. ~. Rogers stated
hiscco~ents referred to having a meeting to present it, but
not a formal presentation at the public hearings.
Mr. Rossi stated he was present at the beginning of the
meeting of %he reading of the ordinance, but he had to leave
and he questioned what decisions had been made by the City
Council regarding C-2 zoning? Chairman Kelly informed him
that no changes had been made in C-2, but the City Council
made the~following changes in C-3, Page 27:
Minimum lot frontage - 75 feet
Minimum lot area - 15,0OO
Minimum front yard - 20 feet
Minimum side yard - none, except where neces-
sary for access to rear,
minimum side yard shall be
15 feet.
ADJOURNMENT
Col. Trauger made a motion to adjourn, seconded by ~s.
Huckle. Motion carried 6-0 and the meeting was properly
adjourned at 9:12 P. M..
~,,,,.. CO RRE CTE Dt /
Regular meeting for the Planning and Zoning Board.
Date:
Place:
7:30 P.M.
May 13, 1975
Conference Room, downstairs, City Hall
1. Acknowledgement of members and visitors.
2. Reading and approving of minutes.
3. Old Business:
Final Approval--Leisureville #10, Lake Roma
Final Approval--Yachtsmans Cove-
5. Public Hearing
Parcel #1 - Lot 32, Block 17
Rolling Green Ridge 1st Addition
. Recorded in Plat Book 24, Page 224
Palm Beach County Records
Address - 170 N.E. 27th Court
Applicant - Ann L. Siarto
Request-- Conditional Use to allow
Child Care Center
6. New Business:
Site Plan Approval--Winn Dixie, Store Addition
320 N. Federal Highway
Broward Bank, Drive-In Tellers
1905 S. Federal Highway
ZONED R-1