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Minutes 07-23-74MINUTF£ OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING & ZONING BOARD HELD AT CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, TUESDAY, JULY 23, 1974 AT 7:30 P. M. PRJESENT Fred J. Kostner, Chairman Joseph Kelly, Vice Chairman Mrs. Marilyn Hmckle Oris Walker Mrs. Emily Jackson Joh~ Rogers Jack Barrett, Bldg. Official ABSENT Col. Walter M. Trauger (Excused) Chairman Kostner called the regular meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board to order at 7:30 P.M. He introduced the members of the Board, the building official a~d the recording secre- tary. Mr. Barrett informed Chairman Kostner that Col. Trauger had called to say he was on vacation and would not he present. Before hegi~aing, Chairman Kostner welcomed Mr. Rogers to the Planning & Zoning Board. He stated he did a little checking on Mr. Rogers' backgromnd as he was not acquainted with him a~d k~ows he will he an asset. He also thanked him for ac- ceDtiag this appointment. MINUTES The Minutes of the meeting of July 9, 1974 were read. Mr. Kelly moved to adopt the minmtes as typed, seconded by Mr. Walker. Motion carried 4-0, with Mrs. Jackson and Mr. Rogers abstaining since they were not present. NEW BUSINESS ~ PLAN REVIEW ChairmaaKostner announced Mr. Kelly had advised him that due to the death of a good friend, he would like to leave early and hecamse of this, they would review Item #3 first. Mr. Kelly clarified that Mrs. Winifred Larson had passed away. She had an accident Thursday and died of a perforated ~cer on Smnday, because they were not aware of it. Item #3 - Harvey S. Taylor Project 2424 N. Federal Highway (Preliminary) Chairman Kostner stated he was not smre whether all the mem- bers had a copy of a letter from the Mayor of Boca Raton re- ferring to serioms school problems, especially school construc- tion. In. this letter, they show the dire need for additio~mul MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE TWO J~Y 23, 1974 schools and with a project of this type, you may keep in mind the seriousness of this. Since this project probably will be a family type project, he imagined there would be school children involved. He just wanted to smggest this for con- sideration. He added he would get a cody of this for say member that did not have a copy. Mr. Kelly asked where this was located and Mr. Barrett in- formed him it was om Congress Avenue, immediately semth of the proposed Meadows project. The Federal Highway address is incorrect$ that is another Taylor project. Mr. Barrett stated that the Taylors were at City Nall today and informed him there would be a modification to these plans. The somth portion is withi~ the City limits, but the balance is mot. There will be an annexation request for the parcel to the north. He showed how they planned te fled vario~ areas to bring the commercial area to complement the Meadows. He continued that their density at the moment is 6.48 for the entire tract, but they have agreed to reduce their den- sity to brimg it in the 6 density limit. This is just a pre- liminary review. He pointed out some other planned cha~ge~e Ne further informed the Board that 80% of the homes would be waterfront dwellings. The homes are not in the low priced class. The lowest ce will be abomt $39,000. It is family oriented. Mrs. be amy single dwellings amd be tow~houses for family they had made J~ the re been talking to their this project. questioned if there wo~ld Barrett advised they woul~ then showed some changes He added that he had for two to three months about Mrs. Hmckle questioned the total occupancy and Mr. Barrett informed her that they have roughly 95 acres and with a gross density of 6, there will be a papmlation of about 1,800. This is based on family type units for approximately three people. Mr. Barrett then referred to Chairman Kostner mentioning the schools. He advised that there was nothing that could ~e required by law right now. The small developer has gotten away so far scot free in providimg schools. They have a land bank, possibly taking a small parcel for recreational purposes at the moment a~d them it is deeded to the school board. This is their plan. At the time the school board needs this, they cam. approach the commmmity sad request they buy the recrea- tional facility back and ~amk the money for schools. That is what they plan, but there is nothing now. The school board realizes there is an impact from family oriented commumities. They are aware there is a meed, acknowledging the school board,s requirememts for fmtmre schools. MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE THREE ~Y 23, 1974 Mr. Barrett informed the Board that this was only a prelimi- nary look amd a revised plan would be presented. They are apply~ for amnexation. They will present am overall plan in two parcels, one which they won't develop~at the present. Mr. Kelly questioned if this required any action tonight and Mr. Barrett informed him this was just a prelimimary view for their comments and questions that he could discuss with their planner. Mrs. Huckle questioned if all the area was residential and commercial amd Mr. Barrett then pointed out the recreational areas. Mrs. Huckle asked if playgrounds were specified and ~. Barrett replied: no, no general playground area, open courtyards, etc. Mr. Rogers remarked that it would really be for adult families then and Mr. Barrett replied: no, not with two story and three bedroom homes. Ne added that he thought only one or two children pr family would be moving in. Mr. Kelly rem~mrked that it was his opinion that until they knew mere about it, the families to buy these homes would possibly have teenaged children. Mr. Barrett stated he thought this would be the first step in a yo~ug married man's life. Mr. Kelly stated that youmg people are not ia the~pesition to bmy a ho~se in that price range. Mr. Barrett said they were doing it thc Mrs. Jackson remarked she though% it was about time had family homes in the area. ~hairman Eostner added that he thought it possib~would be available thromgh F.H.A. financing. Mr. Barrett advised him he thought this outfit was going to do their own fiaamcing. Mrs. Hmckle stated that in view of the idea they may cater to young families, she definitely wanted to encommter a lower demsity. Mr. Barrett stated that density does not enter into popmlation. Mrs. Jaoksom referred to all the little pools shown and stated if it was children oriented, she thought it would be advisable to have recreational areas aromad them. Mr. Barrett stated they did small recreational areas aromad each one. Chairmam tner remarke~ that the plan should be blown up larger. Huckle added that she still thought there would be more 1,800 people living there. Chairman Kostner announced that the Taylor Project had been presented for a preliminary review by Mr. Barrett and con- sidered and discussed by the board members. Suggestioms have ~een'made and one definitely is to obtain a larger type layout showing more detail. Item #2 - MacDonalds - New Restaurant 1810 $. Federal Highway (Site Plato) Mr. John Ridenour and Mr. Allan Silverberg representing MacDomalds explained the plan. Mr. Kelly remarked that it looked beautiful to him. Mrs. Huckle 9uestioned if they MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE FOUR JULY 23, 1974 planned any outdoor eating facilities and the representatives replied: ne. This is the first one to be built with dimi~ rooms om each side. The theme on the inside will be a nauti- cal type theme with a sumken dining room. They also plsmned to serve pancakes. It will basically look the same from the outside. Chairman Kestner asked if they were doing away with the high arched sign and the represemtative replied: yes. Mr. Barrett added they requested this because of the sign ordi- nance. Chairman Kostner remarked that it looked very attrac- tive. The represemtative continued that the b~ldimg would he half brick amd half stucco. Ne added they had made some changes requested by C.A.B. Mrs. Huckle questioned the possible completion and the representative informed her they hoped by the end of this year or the f~st quarter of next year. Mr. i the traffic flow from the highway and Mr. ermed ~ the Police Department would take care of this. Mrs. Huckle questioned if the parking requirements had beem met and Mr. Barrett replied that they had ample parking. The representative added that they found by just having enough according 'to ordimances was mot enomgh. Mrs. Jackson moved to recommend to City Coamcil the site plan for MacDonalds Restaurmmt at 1810 S. Federal Highway as ap- proved by_this Board. Mr. Kelly seconded the motion. Motion carried 60. Mr. Kelly then asked to be excmsed at ~:10 P.M., since mo representative from Charter World was presemt. Chairma~ Kostner said he could leave and thanked him for staying. He also asked him to please express regre~m from every mem- ber of the Board. Item #1 - Charter World, Palm Land Development Corp. 3625 S. Congress Avenue Phase #1 Models Golf and Tennis Club Golf Cart House Maintenance Building (Site Pla~s) Mrs. Jacksom questioned if Charter World was aware this was on the agenda and if so, why they did mot have a representa- tive present? Mr. Barrett advised her they were aware this was on the agenda, but that he had all the information and could answer the questiona~ ~s. Jackson remarked she thought they would be interested enough to come. Mr. Barrett showed the plans and advised this was entirely different from what the Board looked at previously. This is for the purpose of site plan review. This concer~$ three buildings in Section 17 and the gro~ads maintenance building im Sectiom 18. Phase 1 is 15 buildings, 4 units each, or 60 total ~its. MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE FIVE JULY 23, 1974 Chairman Kostner stated he had a letter in reference to roads which he discussed with Mr. Barrett yesterday. Mr. Barrett stated that this had nothing to do with the roads. The letter has to do with the approval of the sections. He stated he was just trying to get the paperwork done now and ne permits will Be issued. Mr. Rogers questioned if this was the only clubhouse they would have and Mr. Barrett replied: no, only for this first section. Other areas are planned. Mrs. Euckle asked to see a blowup of this amd Mr. B~rett showed it to the mem- bers and explained it. He added that it was well planned in the overall planning. They are presenting it in phases and sections now. They have gone through all the steps. Chairman Kostner asked if all the Boards had approved the proposed plans and Mr. Barrett replied: yes. Chairman Kostner them referred to the letter, asking if it regarded this. Mr. Barrett stated that he recommended that the letter not Be accepted. You can approve this, But no building permits will be issued until full approval of the road change is received. Chairman Kostner then read the letter written to Joe DeLong, Mayor of Boynton Beach, by John D. McKay, Jr., attorney for Bill Sexton. It referred to a letter of MaY3 protesting the re-alignment of roads and advised that his client had reached an agreement with Palm Land and withdrew his objection te the re-alignment of the first phase. They requested to be advised of plans in this regard, so the approval and development process would not be delayed in the future. Chairman Kostner advised that I~yor DeLeng sent copies to all departments concerned in this matter. Ne added that he would also have copies made for each member. Mr. Barrett stated it was his feeling the Board should not accept the letter in that it doesn,t release the entire project with just stating he only releases Phase 1. He clarified that the comnection points were identical to what was originally plied, just internal roads were changed. A straight-thru road pattern was made originally and now it is curvilineal to prevent speeding through the proj!ect. He stated he felt they should get a full release. Chairman Kostner stated he was sure the members agreed with this rec- ommendation. Mr. Walker made a motion to recommend approval of the Palm Land Development site plam contingent upon receipt of sm acceptable road cha~e plan as recommended by the Building Department. Mrs. Huckle seconded the motion. Under discus- sion, Mrs. Huckle questioned if just one model was planned and Mr. Barrett replied: no, 15 which, heshowed them first. Mr. Rogers asked where the models were located in reference to the Golf andTennis Club? Mr. Barrett stated he would MINUTES PLANNING & ZONING BOARD PAGE S IX JULY 23, 1974 show the overall plan to Mr. Rogers after the meeting, as it was in the Building Department. GhairmamKostner stated Mr. Rogers could abstain from votimg until he reviewed theme plans. Mrs. Huckle reqmested further clarification of the I5 models a~d Mr. Barrett informed her there would be 15 ~odels with 15 different floor plans. The model on Congress Avenme will be tern dowm. These new models will be sold as residential units after all the others are sold. They will do this from phase to phase. This is standard proced~e. Mr. Rogers stated he would meet with Mr. Barrett after the meeting to get up to date on Charter World. Motion carried 4-0, with Mr. Rogers since he was mot familiar with the project, stated that at a later date, Mr. Rogers could indicate his feelings on this matter. OTHER DISCUSSION Mrs. Jackson questioned if they had any ordimamce for when a zonimg change was to be made, a sign was put on the prop- erty stating a change was planned? Mr. Barrett stated they did not imclude anythimg like this in the ordinamce. Mrs. Jackson stated that many people remarked they were not aware of zoning changes. Mr. Barrett stated this happened because people did not want to read the public notice. Mrs. Jackson asked if they thought it~would be a good idea to publish it in both ways? Mr. Barrett replied that he had mixed emotions. It would only be a notice so big and people wouldm't bother to read it. Mrs. Jackson stated she found even thomgh you are not in the alloted number of feet, yo~ may be interested. Chairman Kostmer welcomed Mrs. Jackso~ ~ackand added that she had been missed. Mrs. Jackson replied that she was very glad to ~e back. Mrs. Huckle asked if they were getting any closer to the mew proposed zoning code? Mr. Barrett replied that he does have a mew assistant and can devote some time to planning & zo~ng again. Mr. Barrett referred to a full page ad for the zoning and showed what size they would have to come down to. Ne thought it was much too small. Mrs. Jackson asked if it would be separated for the north and south ends om differemt nights. Mr. Barrett stated this would have to be discussed. Mrs. Huckle questioned if it could be put on a double page? Mr. Barrett informed her they would have to get two centerfolds to publish the presemt amd proposed. He added that he just offered this for consideration amd discussiom. The Oity could possibly be separated in half. Mrs. Huckle remarked MINUTES PLA~NING & ZONING BOARD PAGE JULY 23, 1974 she thought it would be better that way and give mere people am opportunity. She thought it was much more logical. Chair- man Kos~tner agreed. Mrs. Jacksem s~gested that the Chairma~ approach the City Council about this. She added that they have mot had a zoning change since 1962. Chairman Kostner agreed and stated he would like to have the entire Beard dis- cuss this a~d work out the plans they would like and wo~d submit it to the Oity Cemacil. ADJOURNMENT Mrs. Jackson moved to adjourn, seconded By Mr. %~alker. Motion carried 5-0 and the meeting was properly adjourned at 8:45 P.M.