Minutes 01-22-74MiNU'~-~ OF TPZE PLANNING & ZONING BOARD l~TIi~G HELD AT CITY PL~LL,
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, TUESDAY, JANUARY aP_, 1 ,~'vs, AT 7:30 P '~'~'
PRESENT
Fred J. Kostner, Chairman
Joseph Kelly, Vice Chairman
L. R. Blacketer
Otis Walker
M~s. Emily Jackson
Walter M. Trauger
Jack Barrett, B!dg~ Official
ABSENT
Mrs. Mari!yn Huckle
Chairman Kostner called the Regular Meeting of the Planning &
Zoning Board to order at 7:30 P.M. He introduced the members
of the Board.
Under old business, it was decided to hold the Minutes of
December !1, 1973, which were tabled at the last _eet~ng,
until l~s. Huckle arrived to make a quorum.
The ~nutes of December 21, ~973, were read, which was a work-
shop meeting changed into a special meeting for Shaker Heights.
M~. Blacketer stated he was not present at this meeting; there-
fore, it was decided to hold these minutes until ~s. Huckle
arrived to make a quorum.
The Minutes of January 16, 19~. were read. ~s. Jackson stated
she didn't believe she made herself clear on Page 3, Paragraph
2, and the members referred to same. She clarified that she
had said the county planners could look at this and see what a
planner would do and not the county. Change "the county~ to
· ~'a planner". She continued further down where she read the
'~bil!~' and not a '~'notice". She then referred to the next
page at the end of the first paragraph, "they didn't v~iee any
opinion~ instead of "seem to be". ~. Kelly made a motion
that the Minutes of January 16, ~974, be approved as amended
and read. M~. Trauger seconded the motion. Motion carried
Chairman Kostner announced that before beginning the agenda,
he would like M~. Kelly to give a short report in viewing
these areas. M~. Kelly replied for the information of the
rest of the Board, the Chairman and I viewed #1, ~2, #3 kmow-
lng what it was, but did not go to the premises; ~4~ #5 did
not know the location; and verified the additions of #6,
Boynton Beach Ps, k; #7, inlet Harbor Club and #8, Comwell
proposed subdivision north of the canal and east of Congress.
!~. Blacketer asked if all on the agenda would be prelimi-
nary approvals and ~. Barrett replied: no.
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Chairman Kostner recognized the presence of Hr. Vao~lne,
the Board's previous chaS_~man~ seated in the ~ud_ence.~ i
He then asked if any of the people in the audience were
present in reference to any of the mat,~e_s on the agenda.
Mrs. Janet Hall stated her name and her address as Sea ~st
Marina and stated she was present in reference to ~5.
#5 ~ Hall & Thompson - Yachtet Sea Mist Marina
Lots 4-13-20-29-28-27 Dewey Subdivision
P~. Barrett clarified that }~s. Hall was not here for a regu-
lar site plan review, but for an expression from the Planning
& Zoning Board if this would be a suitable thing for Boynton
Beach. There is a monetary interest here where expression
of the ~City is needed before applying to lendir~ institutions.
P~s. Jackson stated she had looked at this and would like to
ask if this is going to mean dredging a new canal? Mrs.
Hall replied: yes. Mrs. Jackson continued that then she
would have to get permission from the Army Corps of Engineers.
~s. Hall replied that she would like to explain further.
A great deal of the frontage is on the intercoastal waterway.
There are problems with dredging and mangroves. Basically,
we have outlined the best use for the real estate. Based on
the cost of building, the land is high priced in that area.
~e are meeting with state agencies tomorrow. We ~are having
a site plan approved and will work with the state agencies.
We would actually come to you first because if what we have
in mind doesn't meet with the City, there is no reason to go
further. M~. Blacketer asked if the canal would have to be
widened? M~s. Hall replied that the plan calls for a second
canal. We would lik~ to increase the space for boating in
general. The number of boats coming into Boynton Beach is
increasing. Mr. Blacketer asked if the 2nd Avenue right-of-
way runs to the intercoastal? M~. Barrett replied that this
was open to debate. After checking with Tom Clark, all I
can find out is that 2nd Avenue has a ~5 ft. right-of-way.
Mrs. Hall stated that this was a design they would like to
do, but realize there may be need for changes. ~ne right-
of-way is just landscaping on the plan. M~s. Jackson stated
that we had just gone through the business of getting flood
insurance and will this cause any problems? Mm. Barrett re-
plied that there will be some requirements, but the coordi-
nator must outline them to us. We have completed all of our
work that is necessary ~ud we have preliminary approval.
After they study it~ they will outline a program. P~s. Hall
continued that the proposed work lies north of the marina
that is now in operation and we plan to upgrade the whole
marina area. There is property on the east end of that canal
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that we do not own. ~o Kelly asked to clarify the descrip-
tion of a yachtel, which is rather new, will the people pay
to pull in their boats and have rooms there to stay?
Hall replied that this will be an ~ea for small boats and
rooms for rent. Mrs. Jackson stated ~he had seen the plans,
but felt the rest of the-Board should look at it. ~.
Barrett spread the plans out on the table for the members
to look at. He stressed again that the members should look
at it as to ~?nether it is a valuable thing for Boynton Beach.
This is just a preliminary expression of this one Board of
the City of Boynton Beach. The members looked~at the plans
and discussed them further, then returned to their seats.
Chairman Kostner asked Mr. Vastine to appear before the
Board. ~. Vastine thanked him and congratulated the mem-
bers of the Board. I sincerely trust the work that has been
started will be completed. I came here with a considerable
bit of material, which I would like to present, i am turn-
ing over to you, Mr. Chairman, the final work copy of the
zoning regu!ations~ This is the only copy that has the para-
graphs and sections numbered. There is one section not num-
bered, ~rticie 6, Administration and Enforcement of the Entire
Regulations. I will now present this copy to you and probably
in your work session, you will go back to this. Chairman
Kostner thanked Mr. Vastine. ~. Vastine continued that he
also had a lot of other material that he thought they should
have~ which was part of his files. A complete set of three
planning and development samples~ which you may want for fur-
ther study° A copy of the General Pls~, which i will give to
Col. Trauger. A map of a general neighborhood, which may
also help. A lot of assorted material that is important;
Zoning Primer~ present ~ing ~ ~ ~'
~gu~a.mons of the City of
Boynton Beach, which he ~~ ~ s. ~~ ac~~Copy
Trauger; copies of the subdivision ordinances~ which he
gave to Chairman Kostner and !~s. Jack. on. He reminded the
Board of their speaking manners and presented the Chairman
with copies of Minutes typed strictly from what was said.
He continued presenting with Ordinance 62-9, which is the
~=+~ and gave
present ordins~ce under which you are ~.~ ......
copies to Col. Trauger and M~s. Jackson and two copies to
Chairman Kostner; Charter World proposed program~ which he
gave to Col. Trauger; Technical Memorandum 5 and 6 regarding
a Civic Central Business District Study~ which he gave to
Blacketer and Col. Trauger; copy of the ordinance on site
plan approval, which he gave to Col. Trauger$ copy of Arti-
cle 5, the basis for this Board, which he gave to Col. Trauger;
a report of the Planning & Zoning Board Workshop Meeting held
on October 15 relative to Lehigh Portland Cement Company and
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also involving some points of view from the Community Ap-
pearance Board and
~__ms was quite a discussion, which he
gs~-e to Mr. Kelly; ordinance for the Technical Review Board
and Community Appearance Board, which he gave to Chairman
Kostner. He also gave Chairman Kostner several copies of
resolutions and ordinances: Resolution 73~T, 73~a~ Ordi-
nance 73-8, 73-38, Resolution 73, 73-t3, and 73-T, I don't
have need for these a~ longer and if I have to refer to them
again, I ~mow where to go. It has been a great pleasure to
have worked wit~ ~e previous members and if I can be of ~uy
further assistance, please feel free to call on me. I ~ow
all of those who have worked on this prior to January want
to see it completed as soon as possible. I would like to
extend personal thanks to Mr. Barrett, who has rendered a
great service. As I have worked through the year with Mr.
Barrett, I know there is nobody but ~. Barrett that knows
what is going on in this town in reference to building. I
congratulate the City on having such a great man. Chairman
Kostner added that without N~. Vastine's leadership~ the
work done last year would have only been half. Thank you
for the work you have done. Col. Trauger stated as an ordi-
nary citizen before being on this Board, i think the leader-
ship and services he has rendered to Boynton Beach is com-
mendable.
~,~. Barrett stated that with respect to ~s. Hall's presen-
tation, there should be some expression by the Board. There
is need for some expression in writing for the City Council.
~s. Hall thimW~ this is beneficial for Boynton Beach. At
this point, you cannot recommend final approval, just an~ex-
pression from the Council for the sole purpose of the lending
institutions, plus the Corps of Army Engineers will ask that
we grant a permit~ }~. Kelly stated that h~ would reconmend
this Board to very heartily approve this idea. It will add
to the attractiveness of this City to people co,ming from the
east or west, it would be very pleasant to view. I would
definitely recommend this project. Mme. Jackson stated that
fishing is one of the main attractions of Boynton Beach and
people think of this first along with~wi~ning, i reco~mmend
this, providing it passes through the other agencies. ~.~.
Trauger stated he agreed and feel it is almost impossible to
find a room to ren~ with dockage. This will be a great addi-
tion to Boynton Beach, as it will bring in this type of acti-
vity. I think the Board should give it their recommendation.
Mm. Blacketer stated he certainly agreed with ~e other mem-
bers and was in favor of it. ~,~s. Jackson added that this is
near to the downtown area and is centrally located, I think it
gives it an added eminence. ~'h~. Kelly added that we recently
had the downtown area improved with ithe new b~k and think
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this would greatly improve the area too. Chairman Kostner
stated he also agreed, but was wondering about the long
strip of land that has no ingress or egress on the south
end ending in a cul-demsaco Possibly an.,~out!et could be
worked in for that area. ~obably when the plans are fin-
alized, this will be taken care of. I am also in favor of
this.
~. Kelly made a motion that we recommend a como~ete~_ appro~
val of the concept as it is presently finalized on the Prelimi-
nary site plan, ~. Walker seconded the motion. Motion
carried 6-0°
~s. Hall stated she appreciated the remark about the long
stretch without an ingress and egress° ~. Barrett stated
that it might not be desirable to open up that end, as it
is a residential area and they ms~~ not want tra~Tic in that
area~
Chairman Kostner noted that it was 8:35 P.M. and Mrs.
Huck!e had not arrived yet. Therefore~ we do not have a
quorum to vote on the previous minutes and they will be
tabled until our next meeting.
Mr. Julian Patrick stated his name and his address as 432
N.Wo and Avenue~ Boynton Beach and that he was the owner of
property located at ~4] S.E. ]Sth Avenue. I would like to
knuow why this is not listed on your agenda for this evening.
I presented the plans for this storage addition that I want
to build on the back of the present building in September
and thought it would be on the agenda. I just want to add
an addition to the rear of that building and clean it up and
improve the site. It is now January and I bought it in I,~y
and just want to improve the area. I have already spen~
several thousand dol!ors improving the front and would like
to proceed with the rear. i do not understand why it is not
on the agenda tonight. ~,~. Barrett replied that there were
a couple of revisions on the parking and so far, the Techni-
cal Review Board has not been able to get the approval of
the police department. Mm. Patrick replied that the police
department had signed off these plans in November.
Barrett agreed they had signed them off, but with certain
requirements° ~r. Patrick replied that he had met with
Chief Huddieston, Lt. Gardner and Dst. Hamilton last month
and they notified Mr. Rubin that there was no problem. I
would like to have this taken ca~e of tonight. Mr. Barrett
replied that the Board has 'a workshop meeting on ~nursday
morning and possibly this could be included then in a spec-
ia! meeting If the Technical Review Board passes ~h=s,
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we can consider this at that time. Chairman Kostner stated
that in view of this, we are powerless to do anything at this
time and suggest you follow ~. Barrett's suggestion. ~,~.
Patrick stated then if the Board would consider #8, he would
like to be here. M~. Barrett replied that this was a matter
of zoning and should possibly also be considered at a work-
shop meeting. There will be no final action tonight~ as it
has to be zoned and we are just taking a pre!mminary view.
P~. Kelly stated in view of these facts, I move to delete
~/:8 Comwe!! from the agenda and discuss this at the workshop
meeting on January 24. M~es. Jack. son seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6-0, I¥~r. Barrett informed the Boa_m tha~
Comwei! ~,~m±l take some ~mme to look at and prepsa~e maps.
Mm~s. Jack. son remarked that she thought the workshop,was to
work on the pls~. M~. Kelly stated that he agreed~ but an
exception should be made when assistance is needed and have
a special meeting for that purpose. }~. Kelly withdrew his
motion and Mrs. Jackson withdrew her second.
Mm. Kelly made a motion that Mr. Patrick's problem on S.E.
~Sth Avenue be considered on~ursday morning at a special
meeting before the workshop meeting. ~. Bl~keter seconded
the motion. Motion carried 6-0.
M~s. Jackson stated that if ~8 will take so iong~ it msy take
all morning and we should work on the plan. ~. Barrett re-
plied that since Mm. Vastine just gave us the copy~ copies
must be duplicated and I will ha~ze nothing f~,udamentally
ready for Thursday morning to actually work on. The Com~e!i
plan will fit in with the new zoning. I cannot have this
zoning plan ready for Thursday and will duplicate #6 for
everyone here~ plus you must also have time to study this.
Chairman Kostner asked the members to delete Comwell from
tonight's agenda and it will be referred to at the workshop
meeting.
Poppa Piazza ~ Pizza Parlor
413 N.E. 2nd Avenue
Lots 1,2~3 Arden Park
Mr. Barrett spread the plans on the table and the members
looked them over thoroughly. Mr. Barrett pointed out that
it had been approved by the Technical Review Board and all
setbac!ms and parking requirements had been met. Chairman
Kostner stated that this was a site plan approval only.
~. Blacketer made a motion to recommend the ap'oroval of the
site plan for Poppa Pizza at 413 N.E. and Avenue and ~.
~al..er seconded the motion. M~tion carried 6-0.
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#2 - Albert Pica - Warehouse
Corner N.E. 3rd Street & N.E. 8th Avenue
Lot 108, Arden Park
The members of the Board viewed the warehouse site plan.
M~. Walker made a motion that the tentative plans of the
Albert Pica Warehouse be approved and Mr. Kelly seconded
the motion. Motion carried 6-0.
#3 - Gulfstream Lumber Now ~
- ~· S~o~.e Front
South Federal Highway
Chairman Kostner stated he had checked into this and all
they are going to do is put a new front on the building,
no extensions or anything. ~. ~eliy added they had put
in new shrubs and trees and this is probably in line with
the City's beautification, The me~oers looked at and dis-
cussed the plans.
~. Trauger made a motion that the site plan for the Gulf-
stream Lumber proposal as presented be approved and it was
seconded by ~s. Jac~on. Motion carried
~. Walker stated that he would have to leave immediately
after the next one, as he had to be in Detrsy at 9:30. He
also stated that he was taking a co~rse and would not be
able to attend any workshop meetings. Chairman Kostner
replied ~ ~ ~
~a~ ~ was okay and that he will be excused.
#4 - A. Stroshein - 4 Story Apartment Condominiums
N.E. 7th Street
The members looked at the plans and discussed them. ~s.
Jackson stated that since this had'not gone through the
Technical Review Board, i move we table this at this time.
M~ m=ac~ter seconded the motion. Motion cs~ried 5-0.
Chairman Kostner announced that this request is tabled
until the Technical Review Board has reviewed this project.
#6 - Boynton Beach Park
3rd Street
The members looked at the plans on the table discussing the
lighting,concession stud, etco ~. Kelly stated in order
to expedi~e~: Z move that the Board recommend the preiimi~
nary site plan that we have reviewed here this evening for
the Boynton Beach Park. Mrs, Jackson seconded the motion.
She added that this was something she had hoped for, for
five years. Chairman Kostner added that this is an excel-
lent thing, to happen and i would like to see Boynton Beach
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'have more. Keeping the youngsters occupied is one way to
combat juvenile delinquency. It helps keep kids off high-
w~ys and also provides things for elderly people. Motion
carried 5-0.
/}~7 ~ Inlet Harbor Club
M~s. Jack~on ~ ~
as~e~ when this area was zonem for multiple
~_we~i_ngs and ~ Bsa?att re~!ied that it had been for ~um~e
some time. ~@ ~e!!y ~mded that he thought for at least ~
or 4 years, it is m~m~ed~at~y north of the Gulfstream Marina.
The Chairman and I~went into the sales office there yesterday
and talked to the manager. I~wou!d suggest you going to see
their plans.~=~m~.~=~ K'ostner added ~ne~ were in the neigh-
borhood of the $44,000 to ~%5,000 bracket I think i~ '
. _~ ms one
of the most beautiful and fine Condominium projects I have
seen ~n Boynt~n B~a¢~ and ! ~m ve,~ ~uch ~mpres~ed ~&~n this.
~m~i~¢~, Jac~..%~stated that people had asked fop years to have
this ~singie fa~qily dwelling. There are copies
petitions im Ci y Hall, They wanted it since it was prized
ia~d along the _~te, coastal. Chair~e~ Kost~eP stated he was
~o% aw~e if the zoning had bee~ cha~ged end was ~ot sure
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w__at the future ~ap !~dieated, Mm, B~rett stated ghat It
had bee~ zoned this ~ fop et least ~ years, }~s, Jac!~o~
added ghat she wes very curious to k~ow whe~ this was eha~ged,
l~, Trauger asked if a local outfit owned this and Mr, Barrett
replied he thought i% wes the s~e Taylor Co..~a~ fro~
tow~. ChaiP~a~ Kost~er stated that from the floor plan itseif~
i% lends itself to value. ]~s. Jackso~ wa~ted te !~ow value
to whom a~d Chair~a~ Kost~er replied: real estate value, The
members the~ looked at the
P~. Blacketer made a motion that the final 'site plan of Inlet
Harbor Club be approved and it was seconded by
Under discussion, ?,~s. Jack~on stated as long as this is
zoned this way~ I would have no choice except to vote for
it. i just hope if we work on the plan in the future~
hope we are not going to take away all the single family
homes along the waterway. I¢~. Yei~ re~l~ed~ _ that if the
prices of property ai~ng the intercoastal waterway were
cnec~d, it is ..~t conducive for a single e
~am~l~ r~szmence
at the price of the land. }~s. Jackson stated she had been
reading where single family homes are going to become an
endangered species and we should save some of the intercoastal
waterway for single family homes. M~. Kelly stated the best
use of land is when more people can be accom~uodated on a
=~k~ this rather than just one fmmily.
beautiful spot.~-'~
Jackson replied that she would vote for this, but wanted to
clarify herself on this. Chairman Kostner advised that the
new map does indicate areas along the intercoasta! for single
family. We have considered.this seriously for our proposed
ordinance. Motion carried 5-0.
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Mr. Barrett asked Chairman Kostner iff he had a communication
£rom ~. Kohl dated January 2t in reference to roadway aban-
donments in Sims Park. Chairman Y'ostner_~ep~ed.~_ negatively.
~,~. Barrett replied that it was sen2 to his o£fice with copies
noted as being sent to the Board Members. Possibly they are
still in your mail boxes. I will give this to the Chairman
to read, Chairm~n Kostner~ad the memo and passed it to the
members together ~ith ~ae attached dra~,_ngs ~'s Jackson
asked if this was just abandoning the roadway where they want
to put in the new park and Mr. Barrett rep!ied: yes° Chair-
man ~ostner stated he was somewhat surprised about this~ even
though they wanted to wait until the new Board met°
~Ms. Jac~on made a motion to recommend to the Comuci! to
abandon that portion of N.W. 2nd Street and that portion of
N.W 9th Avenue required for use by S~_a Sims as out-
lined in red.', on the location map. M~. Kelly seconded the
motion. Motion carried 5-0. Chairman Eostner stated he
would call ~o Kohl advising him of the Board's action and
would follow it up with a letter.
~s. ~acl~on stated she was not trying to push, but would
like to get this whole new map ready and get the copies as
soon as possible. Is anything ready now? M~. Barrett re-
plied that #5 is ready, but not up-to-date. I have the whole
thing with the corrections and will duplicate it for every-
one and then we can review it. When we go through this, we
will probably hsyFe some minor changes to make. Chairman
Kostner asked if sidewalk sales had been incorporated and
i~. Barrett replied that he believed it was. M~s, Jackson
stated that in some cities, they have a revervor clause
where if something is not done within a certain time, it
reverts back to the original zoning, is this included?
M?. Barrett replied: no, but we could discuss it. Mr.
Kelly asked Mrs. Jack, on if she recalled the length of time
and Mrs. jackson replied:~ 6 months. ~h~ ~y can come back ~n~
at the end of six months for a reappiication. ~r. Barrett
agreed that M~s. Jackson had a very good point, but we must
consider the time. Sometimes it is 6 to 8 months before a
developer gets plans done, This is a good point of discus-
sion and should be brought up at the workshop meeting.
~. Trauger stated he had a special meeting on Thursds~ morn-
ing at 7:30 wm~_ ~he Board of Trustees at the college and
would not arrive until approximately ~0:~5 for the workshop
meeting, but was concerned whether they would have a quorum
to svart ~.~e meeting, it was ascertained the Board woumd
still have a quorum.
~s. Jackson made a motion to adjourn and it was seconded by
Mcc. ~(eliyo Mee~_ng adjourned 10:05 P.M.