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Minutes 09-25-72MINUTES OF THE. PLANNING & ZONING BOARD' REGULAR MEETING 9-25~72 CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA PRESENT Mr. R. Olds Mr.~ C. Ayers Mr. Koster Mrs. P. Moore Mr. S. Weaver Mr. K. E~ing Mr. O. Walker Mr. R. Largent, City Planner Mr. J. W. Barrett, Deputn/ Building Official Mr. Olds Chairman, called the meetingto order at 7:30 P.M. The minutes of September 18th were corrected as follows: In the third paragraph, minutes stated seconded by Mrs. Ayers, correct to readMr. Ayers. Third paragraph from the bottom of first page correct S. E. 21st Avenue to S. E. 1 Street. Mr. Koster made motion that the minutes of September 18th be approved with the correction made as stated ~s above, seconded byiCm. Walker, all voted aye, motion carried. 1st ITEM ON AGENDA - REVIHW FINAL PATS OF MANGO HEIGHT &MANGO lstADDITION Mr. Largent presented the two plats to the Board for their perusal. Discussion ensued as to the catchment areas and if these plats agreed with the preliminary plats that they had recommended to be approved. Mr. Largent stated that the catchment basin area was to be dedicated t0 the City. He also wished to have put on recordthat an accurate location of monuments and corner markemappear on the plat~ The Board in checking drainage areas noted that some of the drainage was going west and · rest going east, into a swale area owned by the Developers. This' was a good system. The Plats had been checked out by other City Department involved and also passed inspection by City .Engineer and County Engineer. Mr. Olds read the dedication. Mr. Ayers made motion that we recommend approval subject to the legality and opinion of the City Attorneythat the improvements as the Builder wants to put them in be legally accepted by the City. Mr. Walker seconded the motion and all voted aye, motion 'carried. 2nd ITEM ON AGENDA L Review of General Development plan for meeting of Council of November 14th. Mr. Olds introduced Col. Wehrell, who came to the podium to give resume of his ideas of the plan submitted by Candeub Fleissig~ and Associates. In his opinion this plan could producted disastrous results for the City. He stated that in in opinion that the density in R3, C1,2,3,4, in the proposed 800 acres within the City much too high. To him a 15 Knits per acre in all zone within the City would be more feasible. He also Plsnning & Zoning Board Regular Meeting 9-25~72 stated that if the above is not acceptable he would suggest that the Plann'.mng & Zoning Board request a reconsideration of the proposed map and zoning ordinance until such time as the Board can include the more desirable reconmendation of Candeub, Fleissig and Associates, particularly as to density, site plan approval, community approval into your plan. Then next year this plan can be looked into and proper recommendation given to Council. Mr. Ayers suNgested that the proposed map and ~egular zoning map be brought in so that they could 'look over the areas in question. Mr. Ayers suggested that Mr. Largent point out the R-3 areas that had been made on proposed map. Mr. Ayers stated that according to Fleissig Candeub and Assoicates where we have density controls in R-s they suggest the potential units to be 50 units per acre and where we have no density control as in C1,2,3,4, the potential units per acre to 32-1/2 per acre. To him this made no sense and he states that there, m~t be something radically wrong with the figuring. Mr. Weaver in philosoph~ing, was thinkir~g how different some areas would be if they had fifteen stary buildings, a mi ~nimum of t~o, in.place of t~he man)- t~o floor buildings they have, like Colonial Club. There would be more green area and not a jammed up mess as it now is. Mr. Weaver wondered if the 45' minimum height was really a good idea or would it be more advantageous to have high rise with more green area. To- him that was somethi.ng that should be comtemplated. Mr. Olds Stated that last year all the members of the Planning & Zoning Board hired a bus and toured the City before setting up the proposed map and zoning ordinance and a lot of hard work had gone into it. Mr. Beyer spoke on the matter and stated that people had been afraid of ~ many high rises coming in and we would have a concrete jungle thus they felt a 45' limit would eleviate this. Mr. Weaver stated that he agreed with Mr. Ayers some ~..the things in the Fleiss.ig, Candeub and Associates's plan were confusing mud predictions unfounde'd. He also stated that wi;thout the 45' limitation we Could allow something .like a bank, hotel possibly St. Mark Towers which was seven story. Mr. Olds stated that when Palmland first presented their plans, it was for one, fifteen story building and it was beautiful to behold but now with the 45' limitation, it will be four, four story buildings, which cuts down on the green area. This is a good example of the fallacy of 45' limitation. 3rd ITEM ON AGENDA Mr. Largent presented the' plans for N. E. 10 Avenue project. He stated that the County was going to reverse a curve on the street thus by-passing a church that had stood in the path of first plan. He stated that Mr. Miller, Rev. White and other interested persons in that area had seen the plan and approved of it. - Mr. Walker commented that he wondered if the County started the widening and paving of N. B. 10 Avenue would they have enough money to finish once they started? 4th ITEM ON AGENDA Mr. Largent presented the plat of Section 8 of Leisureville. He stated that all dead-end streets should be cul-de=sacs, there should be a bridge or a box culvert across lateral 25, and bUffer plants between Golfview Terrace sad Congress Avenue and openingson Congress should be elmininated and this traffice funneled through Ocean. There should be no more openings on Congress only 1Sth and 23rd. Mr. Largent wanted to know if the Board would settle for two smaller recreation buildings instead of one that they had promised. The Board stated "no" ss a large building is needed to hold meetings and this what was promised by Leisureville builders. Sth ITEM ONAGENDA Plat of Florida Pnetm~atic Area which cover some forty acres to Hi~'gh Ridge Road.. The Board reviewed the plate and stated that every lots should have some kind of accress to the Railroad. Also the roads will be called W. Industrial Road, Central Industrial Road, South Industrial Road and North Industrial Road. Mr. Weaver recommended preliminary appro~ml of the Florida t~eumatic plat, ~4r. LMing seconded the motion all voted aye, motion carried. Mr. Bwing made motion to adjourn,' Mr. Walker seconded the motion, all voted aye. Meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M. Mr. Robert Olds, Chairman