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Minutes 04-12-22 Minutes of the Community Redevelopment Agency Board Meeting Held on Tuesday, April 12, 2022, at 5:30 PM via GoToWebinar Online Meeting and Commission Chambers, City Hall, 100 E. Ocean Avenue, Florida Present: Ty Penserga, Board Chair Thuy Shutt, Executive Director Angela Cruz, Vice Chair Tim Tack, Assistant Director Woodrow Hay, Board Member Kathryn Rossmell, Board Counsel Thomas Turkin, Board Member 1. Call to Order Ty Penserga, Board Chair called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. 2. Invocation The Invocation was given by Board Member Hay. 3. Pledge of Allegiance Board Member Turkin led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. 4. Roll Call A quorum was present. 5. Agenda Approval A. Additions, Deletions, Corrections to the Agenda Chair Penserga offered the following amendments: • Moving the entire CRA Projects in Progress section 13 A through G to after Business. • Clear the pending assignments for CRA Advisory, Items 10 A 1 and 2. He noted there is a new board and the Board should determine new priorities • Leaving Items14 C and F, 15 A on the table. The items are substantial policy decisions and they will appoint a new member to the CRA and he wants fifth member to participate in the discussion • Adding Agenda Publication Date and Deadlines to New Business. Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 B. Adoption of Agenda Motion Board Member Vice Chair Hay moved to amend the agenda to move CRA Projects is Progress after New Business. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Chair Pensesrga requested a motion to clear CRA Advisory Board Assignment and tabling of Items 14 C and F and 15 A and the addition of Agenda Publication Date and Deadlines to New Business. Motion Vice Chair Cruz so moved. Vice Chair Cruz moved to table Item 14 C. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Motion Vice Chair Cruz moved to table Item 14F. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Motion Board Member Hay moved to table item 15 A. Vice Chair Cruz seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Motion Vice Chair Cruz moved to add new business agenda publication date and deadlines Angela and Hay, vote ok 6. Legal Kathryn Rossmell, Board Counsel, welcomed the new board members. No report was given. 7. Informational Items and Disclosures by Board Members and CRA Staff: A. Disclosure of Conflicts, Contacts, and Relationships for Items Presented to the CRA Board on Agenda Board Member Turkin disclosed he spoke with Nick Rojo briefly regarding 14 F. Board Member Hay had no disclosures 2 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 Vice Chair Cruz got a call from Nick Rojo. Chair Penserga got call from Jeff Burns of Affiliated. 8. Announcements and Awards A. Boynton Beach CRA FY 2020-2021 Financial &Annual Report Thuy Shutt, Executive Director, stated for this meeting staff has provided more history and backup for the new members. She advised the item is the Annual Report, which they have to publish. This year, the report is also available on the website and as a hard copy. This should engage the audience where the funds are being spent. It is a user-friendly document. Staff is required to furnish the report to the CRA Board, City and County Commissioners. It also includes the financials and their audit for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2021. B. Rock the Plaza at One Boynton on April 23, 2022 from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Mercedes Coppin, Business Promotions and Events Manager, announced the free event on April 23rd at the One Boynton Shopping Plaza on the northwest corner of Woolbright Road and Federal Highway. The event will feature live music, family friendly games and activities, and food and beverages available from the businesses in the plaza. Parking is available in the One Boynton Plaza. Special Boynton Beach Bucks will be available. Vice Chair Cruz queried how the public can obtain the Boynton Beach Bucks, which Ms. Coppin explained is tied to a survey they complete. The Bucks are redeemable at participating restaurants as contained on the voucher. This is our way to promote local businesses. It makes the services and good available in the area. 9. Public Comments Chair Penserga stated Public Comments is for items not on the agenda and the public can speak on agenda items when they are heard. Public Comments are limited to three minutes but the Board can reduce that amount and will announce it prior to Public Comments. The public will need to state their name and address for the record. James Martin, Florida Technical Consultants, 533 E. Ocean Avenue, congratulated the new board. They are a small engineering firm that does a lot of high. They provide technical training and have they trained a lot of city staff. They have strong credentials. He advised they like Boynton and want to stay. When the property was purchased he requested they not be evicted. He was told to approach the Board after the property was purchased, so he waited until the new Board was seated. He understood there is development occurring, and announced they want to stay as long as they can. The prior Board agreed not to renew or extend leases, but he stated it is hard to find a new spot in Boynton now. The business gives the City a lot of technical exposure and they would welcome any help to find the right spot and was still hoping to set up a training facility. 3 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 Ernest Mignoli, 710 NE 7th Street, Unit 407, in Harbour Hall Inlet Cove. He advised the 45-year old building sits directly on the water and stated salt water comes under their building almost every other day. He stated to the Board, for the last year and a half, he lived here, they have not returned one email or come out once even when the property is under three feet of salt water, flooding the foundation like Surfside. He thought it was interesting Board Member Hay, representing District II, does not return emails. With all that goes on in District II, he does not talk to anyone, he won't come out, he prevents the building department from coming out and writing violations. He sits up there and makes deals. Mr. Mignoli worked in a lot of corrupt places, and he did not think Florida was as corrupt as where he came from, but within counties and municipalities, it is as bad or as worse as New Jersey. It is his opinion Boynton Beach is very bad. They are working a lot of cases in New York. The deputy governor of New York got arrested in New York for accepting funds to get election. Each time he makes comments about elections and board and city managers and mayors, they go after him and anyone that agrees with him, by sending the police to harass him, they do not respond to emails and then work in their little group when everyone knows who is helping who, were the money is coming from. You need a serious investigation and especially of this past election, just like New York. Anitra Burgess, 504 NW 11th Avenue, received funds from the SHIP program, she emailed all on the board. She did not get a response. She was a victim of the drive buy shooting at her home. Her window was shattered her son thought they were under attack. They way her house sits, the entire east side of the house is vulnerable. This occurred on Tuesday April 5. Saturday on 4:40, she ran out of her bed again due to a shooting. She asked what does she has to do to try to leave the home, she has to pay back the funds given, equity, and she is stuck in her own home. She wants assistance how to find another home for her and her son. Melissa Hollis 514 NW 12th Avenue, is one block over from Ms. Burgess and the same thing happens. She is sick of it. She has a 10-year old who cannot go outside. She wants to sell her house and she does not feel safe. Every time you turn around there is a shooting. She asserted the Boynton Police do not care. She grew up and lives in the community. It needs to stop. Chair Penserga requested Sergeant Diehle obtain Ms. Burgess's contact information to follow up. There were no speakers on line and no one else coming forward, public comments was closed. 10. CRA Advisory Board A. Pending Assignments 1. Review of Commercial Properties within the CRA Area 4 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 2. Consideration of Using the CRA Owned Property Located at 401 E. Boynton Beach Boulevard as a Welcome Center B. Reports on Pending Assignments The advisory Board did not have a quorum so no report was given. Ms. Shutt explained this is fairly rare. The Board has seven members with four needed for a quorum. The new members got notified too late. 11. Consent Agenda A. CRA Financial Report Period Ending March 31, 2022 B. Approval of CRA Board Meeting Minutes - March 9, 2022 C. Approval of Commercial Property Improvement Grant Program in the Amount of $25,000 for Service First Processing, Inc. located at 420 W. Boynton Beach Boulevard D. Approval of Commercial Rent Reimbursement Grant Program in the Amount of $15,000 to Service First Processing, Inc. located at 420 W. Boynton Beach Boulevard E. Approval of Extension Request for the Commercial Property Improvement Grant Program for Advantage Physical Therapy LLC d/b/a Apex Network Physical Therapy#39 located at 906 S. Federal Highway, Suite Motion Vice Chair Cruz moved to approve the consent agenda. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 12. Pulled Consent Agenda Items None. 16. Old Business (Heard out of order) A. Discussion and Consideration of a Third Amendment to the Purchase and Development Agreement between the CRA and South Florida Marine Located at 711 N. Federal Highway Ms. Shutt stated the Board previously approved this and this gives the Board the opportunity to look at the final language. The applicant owns and operates marine boat sales. They were given $50K for job creation to hire part and full-time employees. By 5 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 hiring new employees, they could draw down a certain amount of money. Their previous request was due to the pandemic and lack of qualified people, they were slow in getting the job filled. They wanted to draw down funds to reward their existing employees. The Board stated it was not appropriate as the funds were for job creation and the Board agreed not to limit it to time certain which was November 2022. The Board approved they could hire an employee and get a percentage of the funds up front as opposed to receiving them on the back end. The document to be approved is the revised agreement but there was no termination date. The request is to have a termination date. The Woods requested the termination date be next fiscal year of September 30, 2023. Staff has no objection to the date change or adding the termination date. Motion Board Member Turkin moved to make this third amendment as presented, the final extension changing the final termination date of September 30, 2023, and authorize the Chair to sign the agreement after legal review to prevent future extensions. Board Member Hay seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Vice Chair Cruz asked if the job was posted and what jobs are they claiming to create. Ms. Shutt explained $50,800 is to create 12 full-time jobs or 24 part-time jobs or a combination thereof. It was agreed they would post and recruit as necessary, but information documenting their attempts to fill the vacancies was submitted. Staff can request a report t when they request reimbursement. Some type of update would be beneficial. A report is not a requirement of the agreement. It is important they conduct due diligence. Staff would request a status when the Woods request reimbursement. There was consensus on this. B. Discussion and Consideration of a Second Lease Extension Request for Mr. Freddie Brinley Located at 517 1/2 East Ocean Avenue, Apartment#5 Ms. Shutt presented the above item and stated this unit is part of the purchase of the 522 E Ocean Avenue formerly owned by the Oyers and is one of five remaining units in the building. Mr. Brinley previously received a 90-day extension. His lease expired in January and got another extension which expired in April. Mr. Brinley is current with his rent. One reason they have a concern with extending the lease longer than needed, is the building is non-conforming and there are issues. They will eventually demolish the building, but it would not be horrible to extend the lease, but it is up to the Board. Board Member Hay asked what the liability was. Ms. Shutt explained the means of egress is non-compliant as there is no direct pathway to the ground, except to walk on the roof to a stairway down to the alleyway. The CRA does not want to retrofit the building as it will be demolished, but there is no safe exit according to today's Code. Board Member Hay thought they could ask for some type of waiver of any injury and would favor an extension on those grounds. Without it, another 90-day extension is problematic. Attorney Rossmell explained she can look into drafting a waiver, but there are 6 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 restrictions on waiving habitability of buildings and it is not always possible. She would have to research further, but she did not think she could alleviate any liability to the CRA. Board Member Turkin asked if Mr. Brinley would waive liability. He is a plumber and has worked on the building but he cannot find any code that is broken. He thought the building was solid for another 10 years, but would waive liability. Mr. Brinley is having trouble finding another place. What was affordable to him was in bad neighborhoods, the places are outrageous and there are slum lords. He did not want to move back to Kentucky. Mr. Brinley advised he is a veteran. Rents pretty much doubled. Vice Chair Cruz empathized with the situation and acknowledged it is tough to find a place. She wanted to help but did not want the liability. She suggested giving a 60-day extension. Mr. Brinley explained there is a benefit for him remaining in the unit as there is a view over the parking lot from his unit and he could see if there was any type of crime or if anyone was hurt. He also cleans up the park. Vice Chair Cruz suggested a 60-day window as a final extension. Board Member Turkin questioned the difference in liability between 60 days and 90 days. The lease had expired on the 5th and he was in the building since January. Motion Board Member Turkin moved to provide a 90-day extension. Board Member Hay would support an extension if Mr. Brinley signed a waiver. Board Member Turkin agreed with the waiver. Board Member Hay seconded the motion. Vice Chair Cruz noted Legal explained there is no permissible guaranteed way to prevent the CRA from having liability. Attorney Rossmell confirmed it as correct, but agreed to look into what is available and bring it back to the CRA. The lease was extended to July 5t" as the final extension. Vice Chair Cruz requested Mr. Brinley's contact information as the Palm Beach County Community Services as they have a department for veterans. She agreed to provide his contact information to the manager there. Mr. Brinley explained he also contacted the VA and they are way behind and he is at the bottom of the list. Vote Vice Chair Cruz seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. C. Discussion and Consideration of Letters of Intent for the Cottage District Infill Housing Redevelopment Project. (TABLED 12114/21) This item remained on the table. 7 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 D. Approval of the Third Amendment to the Purchase and Development Agreement and First Amendment of the Interlocal Agreement between the CRA and City for the Ocean Breeze East Project Ms. Shutt explained as part of the dev of the project. Centennial was offered the tax credit award with the state which requires a local match of $567,500. The CRA agreed to it originally, but when securing the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit Award, they felt it was better coming from the City. After that, the CRA so they entered into an interlocal agreement with the city. Project was developed and occupied since December 2020. This was a request from staff to ensure they amend some of the agreements executed in the past to allow the CRA to pay the City back per the Interlocal Agreement they have to amend the original agreement and the first amendment because those documents had different obligations. This makes it whole. Information was forwarded to Centennial who had no objections to it. The first amendment to interlocal has to go to the City Commission. Attorney Rossmell suggested making it subject to legal approval so they can make any minor adjustments needed prior to signature. Chair Penserga requested a motion to approve the third amendment to the Purchase and Development Agreement for Ocean Breeze East and allow the Board Chair to execute subject to final legal review. Motion Board Member Hay so moved. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Chair Penserga requested a motion to approve the first amendment between the City and the CRA for payment of local government contribution under Florida Housing Finance Corporation for Ocean Breeze. Motion Board Member Hay so moved. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. E. Consideration of Approval of 500 Ocean Performance Audit for Year Ending December 31, 2021, for Compliance with the Direct Incentive Funding Agreement Vicki Hill, Finance Director, stated according to the DIFA for 500 Ocean, this would be their 3rd year out of 10 years. Before there was Sky Boynton LLC and it was sold to Avante and they have complied with the terms of the DIFA. Avante will receive $464,617 and CRA will get $154,872. Ms. Shutt explained the DIFA is the Tax 8 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 Increment Funding, which The CRA helps development to development the way it was needed. At that time, they were encouraging commercial mixed-use and the funds help offset the cost. For the first four years they are reimbursing 75% of the tax being paid. Motion Board Member Vice Chair Hay moved to approve performance audit as submitted and authorize release of DIFA payment number three in the amount of $464,617 to Avante Residential 500 Ocean. Board Member Turkin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. F. Update of Negotiations between the CRA and Affiliated Development, LLC for the 115 N. Federal Hwy Infill Mixed Use Redevelopment Project (TABLED 03/09/22) This item remained on the table. 14. CRA Projects in Progress A. Neighborhood Officer Program 1st Quarter Report for FY 2021-2022 Sgt. Diehl congratulated the new Board Members and explained this is the first quarter report. He reviewed National Night Out was rained out in August and was held in October at Barrier Free Park where they conducted community outreach. Other activities were blood donations, Shop with a Cop. During the holidays they get a lot and donate a lot, filling up swat truck, and carts for people in District II or homes identified buy guidance counsellors that need a little extra. They conducted homeless outreach at the Boynton Beach Mall, the annual Gobble to you Bobble and they gave away 150 turkeys with their partner at Paradise Windows and Doors at the Carolyn Sims Center. Vice Chair Cruz asked what the NOP Program was, which Ms. Shutt explained. Sgt. Diehl advised it is about building community trust in the community. When COVID hit, they reengineered the program to do more with business owners. They did more community outreach with business and slightly less with youth as a multi-pronged approach to build relationship in the community. They are outfitted with two full officers and one civilian employee. Sergeant Diehl explained how Shop with a Cop works. Ms. Shutt explained the CRA has a budget for the program and explained where the funds are spent. Board Member Hay participated in a Shop with a Cop and it was very touching. It is an excellent program he will continue to participate. Usually, the Officer donates out of pocket. B. CRA Economic & Business Development Grant Program Update 9 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 Bonnie Nicklien gave an update. There is $312,577 remaining this year. She has lot of businesses calling and several applications pending in May. The new Business Tax Receipt list was attached. Staff forwards the grant information to them so the grants are available and so they know there are goods and services in the construction industry if the need to hire in the CRA area. Chair Penserga noted the following items were informational items. C. 6th Annual Boynton Beach Blarney Bash Recap D. Rock the Plaza at Ocean Plaza Recap E. Social Media & Print Marketing Update F. Social Media Outreach Program 2nd Quarterly Report (January - March 2022) G. MLK Jr. Boulevard Corridor Commercial Redevelopment and Affordable Multi-Family Rental Apartment Project (dba Heart of Boynton Village Apartments) Update Tim Tack, Assistant Director, reviewed the development, located on MLK Jr Boulevard just east of Seacrest had its ground breaking with CRA, community stakeholders, and Centennial. The development will provide multi-family rental units and 8,259 square feet of leasable space. The site has been cleared, and form boards for the footers were done. Images of the progress were viewed. He noted the project is moving expeditiously. Board Member Hay wanted monthly updates because the project is exciting to him and the community after watching the property sit vacant for decades. It will be an outstanding project like the other one constructed by Centennial. Ms. Shutt advised per the original development agreement, the jobs report will be provided by June 1 sc and the report for the CRA commercial area is due in July. She intends to provide both reports at the July meeting and further advised there are a lot of local merchants interested in relocating to the building. The price per square foot is $22 maximum square foot plus the CAM at that price for 10 years, but in years six through 10, there will be minor cost of escalation of 3%. Palm Beach County retail space is at $30 a square foot. Staff will forward applications to Centennial who requires businesses to be in business for one year and be a local business. This is building wealth in the community and they can take advantage of the grants. Board Member Turkin noted Florida Technical Consultants was looking for a new place to locate. Ms. Shutt explained all grants are available local businesses; however, Mr. Martin would need to fill out an application. It is first come first served. 14. Old Business 10 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 These items were heard earlier in the meeting. 15. New Business A. Discussion and Consideration as to the Policy Status for the Terms of the Home- buyer Assistance Program Grant Agreements This item was not addressed. B. Consideration of a Waiver of the Right of First Refusal for the Property Located at 508 NW 12th Street, Boynton Beach, FL Ms. Shutt explained this item had several amendments. This program was developed to help homeowners obtain homes. There were several amendments. The subsidy from the CRA was $47K for her family to occupy the property. The purchase price was $157,926. A refinance was allowed and currently the amendment allows Ms. Hogkins to sell if she has an eligible home buyer, which she has. If she did not bring in an eligible buyer, she would pay a reduced amount of $15K. Staff reviewed the information and the new buyer is qualified. The Board needs to give approval of a prior requirement that she notifies staff of a first right of refusal to purchase the property at a market price. The contract now is $355K. The Board needs to waiver the right of first refusal. If approved, Legal can draw up a satisfaction for mortgage. Lasendra Hoggins Wilson, 508 NW 12th Avenue, explained she attended the meeting today to get the waiver from the CRA so she can proceed with her closing that was extended twice. Chair Penserga supported it as did the prior Board. Motion Board Member Hay moved to waive the right of first refusal. Board Member Turkin, seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. C. Consideration of Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Budget Amendment for Unreserved Fund Balance Ms. Hill explained they had their 2021 audit and after it was completed, the Board could reallocate $1.1 M. Staff has requested $500K be put towards the Boynton Beach Boulevard Streetscape Improvement project and the remaining balance go to property acquisition. The Board will be purchasing the Post Office at 217 N Seacrest in February 2023 and they will need the funds to secure that building. It is under contract and the CRA already paid the deposit. Motion 11 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 Chair Penserga stated the motion was to approve budget amendment resolution 22-01 for the reallocation of unassigned fund balance of in the amount $1,136,316 of the general fund the project fund line item 0258200-406 for $500K and 02-582-00-401 $635,316. Vice Chair Cruz so moved. Board Member Chair seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. This project is the Boynton Beach Boulevard Complete Street project. Staff applied for a FDOT Grant to narrow the lanes to provide additional sidewalk area and traffic calming measures. This amount is the local obligation as FDOT will not pay for additional items such as patterned sidewalks. The funds will cover decorative pavement, gray concrete, lane changes, but not the decorative items. Board Member Hay did not want the street to be difficult to drive through. This was already in the works and staff got $2.9M from FDOT. It is a five-year period. The right- of-way remains the same, the width is the same but a typical cross section is 11 feet on north side adjacent to a nine-foot sidewalk. Right now, they have six-foot sidewalk. The extra footage is for a wider walkway. It is really a shared use path always in the right of Way. D. Discussion and Consideration of CRA Workshops Ms. Shutt suggested several dates for the Board to have informal discussion for one to three hours to become informed of redevelopment get up to speed on a lot of what they would look at this year. The second workshop would be on redevelopment financing and budget after the CRA Basics and the July 26th workshop would have a discussion on CRA Affordable housing. Staff was suggesting having the workshop on non CRA or City Commission meeting weeks. The workshops have to be noticed and the public can attend but not participate. The CRA Advisory Board will be invited to attend. Each speaker would have about two three hours for speakers and Q & A and if continuing on lunch, have an hour for lunch. It would be about $1 K. and the workshops would be videotaped. Board Member Turkin suggested consolidating two of the workshops. If consolidated, it would have to be on a weekend. After discussion, Saturday, April 30th at 9 a.m. to noon followed by lunch and the second session, and May 21 st from 9 a.m. to noon. There was agreement to allow Ms. Shutt to have some flexibility in the order of the speakers. E. Consideration of a Temporary Policy for Vacation and Sick Leave Pay-Out Ms. Shutt explained this is a temporary allowance for the executive director to allow for payout of 80 hours for this year and next year provided the employee has earned vacation and meets the requirements. With the rising cost of living, management wants employees to cash out sick or vacation if they comply with eligible hours. Board Member Turkin would see this in the private sector. The City was able to do so, but the CRA policy is different. They will revisit it again next year. 12 Meeting Minutes Community Redevelopment Agency Board Boynton Beach, Florida April 12, 2022 Motion Board Member Hay moved to approve. Vice Chair Cruz seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. F. Agenda Publication Date and Deadline. Chair Penserga noted the agenda is sent a few days before the meeting and it is 2K pages. He supported having the agenda available one week prior to the meeting so members and the Board can review it in advance. Ms. Shutt stated materials will be due two weeks before the meeting. They will be strict on the deadline, but there will be emergencies. There was agreement this was good for everyone, staff, Board Members and the public. There was agreement and staff was directed to bring back a formal policy document. 16. Future Agenda Items A. Discussion and Consideration of a Purchase Agreement from Habitat for Humanity of South Palm Beach County for the Boynton Beach CRA-owned Properties located at 402 and 404 NW 12th Avenue B. Discussion and Consideration of Purchase Agreement of Cherry Hill Mart C. Consideration of the Revised CRA Human Resource Policies and Procedures Manual D. Discussion and Consideration of Request from the USPS to Remain at the CRA-owned Property Located at 217 N. Seacrest Boulevard Post-Closing E. Discussion and Consideration of the CRA-owned Property located at 401- 407 E. Boynton Beach Boulevard F. Presentation by Palm Beach County Housing Authority Properties within the CRA District 17. Adjournment There being no further business, Board Member Hay moved to adjourn. Vice Chair Cruz seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 7:06 p.m. Catherine Cherry Minutes Specialist 13