Minutes 09-10-79MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING HELD AT CITY HALL,
BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1979 AT 7:80 P.M.
PRESENT
Vernon Thompson, Jr., Chairman
Robert Gordon, Secretary
Serge Pizzi
Ben Ridolfi
Paul Slavin
Carl Zimmerman
E. E. Howell, Bldg. Official
ABSENT
George Ampol, Vice Chairman (Excused)
Marilyn Czufin, Alternate (Excused)
Chairman Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. He
referred to this being the first regular meeting of the month and
advised a meeting is scheduled on the fourth Monday of this month
also. He introduced the Building Official, members of the Board
and Recording Secretary. He announced that Mr. Zimmerman has been
moved to a regular member on the Board in p~aee of Mr. Bauer. He
added that Mr. Ampol is excused because of illness and Mrs. Czufin
requested to be excused because she is out of town.
MINUTES OF AUGUST 27, 1979
Mr. Slavin moved the minutes be approved as presented, seconded by
Mr. Ridolfi. Motion carried 5-0 with Mr. Zimmerman abstaining
because he was not present.
PUBLIC HEARING
Parcel ~1 - Lot 50, High Point
Recorded in Plat Book 23, Page 225
Palm Beach County Records
Request
- Relief from 7'6" side setback requirement
to 3~ side setback for screen enclosure
around pool.
Address - 207 S. E. 25th Avenue
Applicant - Orville A. & Eva E. Kroeck
Mr. Gordon read the above application. He also read a letter from
Mrs. Kroeck noting the reason for the variance is: "So my father
(86 years old) who lives with us man walk around the pool. He has
had a stroke and uses a walker. He likes to exercise by walking
around the pool and without the variance the walk on the east side
of the pool is too narrow for the walker. He spends most of his
time walking and sitting out in the enclosed area. The screening
is essential to his comfort as it allows us to leave the door open
from the house to the pool area making it possible for him to go
in and out 'without much assistance."'
MINUTES - BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
SEPTEMBER t0, !979
Mr. Gordon also read a notarized letter of authorization from
Mr. & Mrs. Kroeck for Mr. J. White to be their representative.
Mr. J. White, Owner of J. White Aluminum Products, Inc., came
be{6re the Board. Mr. Gordon referred to nobody living in this
residence at the present time and Mr. White agreed and explained
the new addition and pool were built and the screen enclosure in-
stalled because Mr. & Mrs. Kroeck will be moving here permanently
with her father around October 15. Mr. Pizzi referred to the
screen enclosure already being installed and Mr. White agreed and
advised it is 3'4'T from the property line. Mr. Pizzi asked if he
had knowledge about the need for a variance for this installation
and Mr. White replied affirmatively~and explained that he advised
Mr. & Mrs. Kroeck of this, but they gave him a letter of authoriza-
tion to go ahead with the installation without a permit. Mr.
Howell added that a letter regarding this has been sent to Mr.
White from the Building Department and the Licensing Department
has been notified. Chairman Thompson clarified that a permit was
not issued and Mr. White agreed. Mr. Pizzi referred to Mr. White
having been in business for a number of years and stated he was
surprised about this happening, but he does not think the appli-
cants sho'uld be held responsible. Mr. White stated the applicants
were fully aware of what was going on. Mr. Howell clarified that
the owner and contractor are both responsible in an instance like
this. It is the owner's responsibility to get a contractor and
the contractor was wrong to get a letter to do this. Mr. White
stated the owner was fully aware of what was going on and they
chose to do it this way.
Mr. Zimmerman asked when the screen enclosure was built and Mr.
White replied approximately 'around April ~8. Mr. Howell advised
that it came to the attention of the Building Department in July
when the field inspector noted it and a letter was written at
that time.
Chairman Thompson referred to the screen enclosure being needed
so the father could use a walker enabling him to walk around the
pool and stated with a screen enclosure, room is taken away. The
additional 3'4" could have been paved and there would be more
room. Mr. White informed him that it is harder for a person to
get in and out ~of a glass sliding door with it not being opened.
Mr. Slavin referred to an addition being built for the father and
asked if those plans were in order and Mr. Howell replied affirma-
tively and also the plans for the pool were approved. Mr. Slavin
asked if a pool required an enclosure and Mr. Howell replied that
a fence is required, which they have. Mr. Slavin clarified that
the purpose of the screen was to keep out bugs. Mr. Slavin stated
the screen enclosure was put up on their own and Mr. Howell agreed
and stated everything was legal up to that point.
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SEPTEMBER 10, 1979
Mr. Slavin referred to the screen enclosure preventing the father
from falling into the pool and Mr. Howell informed him the screen
enclosure would be on the outside. Mr. Slavin referred to the
fence preventing the father from falling into the pool and Mr.
Howell informed him the ordinance requires a fence at the property
line to keep small children from falling into the pool, but some-
one in the home would be inside the fence, the same as inside of
a screen enclosure. Mr. Pizzi referred to the screen closing in
one section and Mr. White agreed and advised there is 56 lin. feet
of screening within 3~f of the propertyline.
Mr. Ridolfi asked if the fence is within the legal boundaries and
Mr. Hewell replied affirmatively. Mr. Ridolfi asked if it 'would
be too much of a problem to cut this back to what is allowed and
Mr. Howell replied the zoning ordinance requires any structure to
be within the setback and a screen enclosure is a structure. Mr.
Ridolfi asked if the fence was accepted by the City in its present
location and Mr. Howell replied affirmatively. Mr. Zimmerman
asked if there was room to move the fence further west and Mr.
White replied negatively as there would not be room to walk around
the pool.
Chairman Thompson referred to the owners signing a statement 'allow-
ing the screen enclosure to be built and Mr. White agreed and ad-
vised that he has a copy. He was not willing to do it, but the
owners were fully aware of the circumstances and wrote a letter
stating this. Mr. Pizzi asked if the owners were afraid of the
expense involved or the possibility of being turned down.and Mr.
White replied negatively.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone wanted to speak in favor of
granting this variance and Ms. Elizabeth Woodard, 203 S. E~ 25th
Avenue, came before the Board. She advised her house is located
just to the west of this property. She referred to there being
a utility shed right on the property line to the east of Mr. L
Mrs. Kroeck's property and stated it would seem if this screen
enclosure has to ~o down~ then the utility shed on the other side
would have to go down. Mr. Howell explained the regulations for
utility sheds and advised this one would be checked. Mr. P~zzi
asked if she felt the screen enclosure would be very beneficial
for Mrs. Kroeck's father and Mrs. Woodard replied affirmatively
as he has suffered a series of strokes She told about the father
vis,ting several months ago and spending a lot of time out around
the pool which would not be possible during the buggy season.
Chairman Thompson asked if anyone wanted to speak in opposition
to granting this variance and received no response. He asked if
any communications had been received and Mrs. Kruse responded
negatively. Mr. Slavin asked if all the neighbors had been noti-
fied and Chairman Thompson replied affirmatively.
Mr. Gordon asked if Mrs. Kroeck's father used the walker at all
times and Mrs. Woodard told about him using it about half the time.
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MINUTES - BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
SEPTEMBER 10, 1979
Chairman Thompson then opened the floor for discussion by the Board
members.
Mr. Pizzi stated he didn't think the Board approves of the method
in which this improvement was done. However, since the father is
in his reclining years and can enjoy the patio and screen enclo-
-sure, he would be willing to forgive and forget.
Mr. Slavin referred to seeing things with our hearts and not our
he~ds, but questioned why they didn't-apply for a variance instead
of telling the contractor to go ahead2 Mr. Whiteiinformed him
that Mr. $ Mrs. Kroeck have been in residence in Ohio and it would
be difficult for them to come before the Board. They have come
down for short visits and now are planning to move here perman~e~ly.
They have had a lot to do with the additional construction.
Mr. Slavin clarified there has been a direct violation and he
doesn't say the request isn't justified, but he questions the
method used to achieve it. There has ~een a lack of respect
for the law. The proper channels must be followed. Chairman
Thompsonadded that he thinks principle is involved here - for a
person to sign a statement giving an okay to something which is
wrong. Also, he does not see a hardship. He agrees it could be
a hardship for the father, but he doesn~t live there now. Mr.
White informed him that they are going to become permanent resi-
dents next month and are remodeling the home for the father to
live with them. Chairman Thompson replied that the proper chan-
nels must be followed. He does believe if it was a health matter
and they came before the Board properly, he thinks it would have
been granted, but to assume and go ahead is another question.
Mr. Gordon referred to authorization being given to Mr. White to
appear before the Board tonight and questioned what prevented
this same authorization being given in April and Mr. White replied
there was nothing. Mr. Gordon clarffied that there is no excuse
and they have made short visits.
Mr. Slavin referred to authorization being given to Mr. White in
the letter dated July '30 and stated if this was not discovered
by the building inspector, this would not have been done. He
summarized the case that there is a man 'who is in his 80's, has
suffered a stroke, seems to be rehabilitating, his daughter
built an addition for him and he walks around with a walker at
times. This is all done on their ownproperty. The screen
enclosure just cramps them more. If we can give the man extra
time to enjoy what he has left of his life, he sees no harm
The only thing he didn't like is the method they approached to
achieve this. Ail this could have been accomplished prior to
installing the screen enclosure.
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MT. Pizzi stated if this vamiance is not gmanted, the scmeen enclo-
sume must be taken down and MT. Slaving agmeed and added they could
not me-apply unless they go thmought the courts~
Mm. Zimmemman mefermed to all this sOunding good~ but stated there
ate a great numbem of eldemly people using pools without ~scmeen
enclosumes in Boynton Beach. Th'eme is an alternative this man
can enjoy 'the pool without 'scmeening. Chaimman Thompson agmeed and
stated he did not see where the scmeen helps. Mr. Pizzi mefemmed
to the bugs being a problem and Chairman Thompson meplied that we
must keep in mind theme must be a hardship imposed by the City and
not be self-imposed. He thinks if this had been brought to th'e
attention of the Board and a vamianee mequested in Apmil~ it would
have been different. Theme is a wooden fence at least 6-8 feet
all amound~ so the scmeen is not for protection fmom outsidems.
Mm. Pizzi mefemmed to the law being bmoken, but-stated it may
have been caused by the pmessume of living out of state and
getting ready to make the move with all the impmovements.
Maybe theme weme thoughts this would be a shomtcut, but it
is a seveme penalty to undo all that has been done. He is sume
they get penalized fop not taking out ~a permit. Chaimman Thompson
meplied that we cannot look at it in temms of dollams. He told
about pomtion of homes being town down because they were built in
the setbacks without pemmits. Mr. Pizzi continued that the ownems
did confomm with the lamger improvements.
MT. Zi~memman mefemred to the City Council pmesently consideming
a Code Enforcement Boamd and stated the City ~is aware some of
these things exist. Howevem~ we have the responsibility to eon-
sidem these cimcumstances until this Boamd is fommed. We have
the duty to see the code is enfomced unless theme is a definite
hamdship. Theme is an alternative and it will not take the man's
life away.
M~. Ridolfi stated these people f~om out of state just 'took it
upon themselves to do this. They got MT. White to build it and he
is sumpmised MT. White did not insist upon having a heating befome
building it. He hates to see this tumned down, but it should not
be done again. If theme is anything in violation, it-should be
commected befome stamting. He doesn't like the idea of teaming it
down~ but doesn't like outsidems coming in and telling us what they
ate going to do. Mm. Pizzi added that MT. g Mrs. Kmoeck bought
the home in 1965 and Mr. White did not try to hide anything. Mm.
Howell advised this type of violation will he dealt with quite
sternly~aftem Octobem 1. MT. PiZzi refemmed to theme being quite
a few violations when the seawalls weme built in Leisumeville,
but told about none of them evem ~being torn down. Chairman
Thompson meplied that each case i;s based on its own merits. Mr.
Pizzi stated the penalty should be considemed also.
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SEPTEMBER 10, 1979
Mr. Ridolfi stated as long 'as it is all dome and the people are
mot complaining and it is neat, he makes a motion we accept things
as they are. Chairman Thompson clarified the motion was to grant
the variance. Mr. Pizzi seconded the motion. Chairman Thompson
stated before asking for a roll call~ he would like to inform Mr.
White that at least five votes in favor are needed to grant the
variance. As requested, Mrs. Kruse then took a roll call vote on
the motion as follows:
Mr. Pizzi - Yes
Mr. Zimmerman- No
Mr. Ridolfi - Yes
Mr. Slavin - Yes
Mr. Gordon - No
Mr. Thompson - No
Motion denied with a vote of 3-3.
OTHER
Chairman Thompson referred to the members complying with the finan-
cial statement and Mr. Gordon replied that he did not receive a
form and Mr. Ridolfi added that he lost his. Chairman Thompson
informed them that forms are available in the City Clerk's office.
Mr. Howell complimented the Board on the decision made tonight and
the matter in which the facts were considered.
Mr. Slavin referred to the nature of the petition scheduled for
the next meeting and made a motion to reqqest the City Attorney,
Mr. James Vance, to be present at our meeting of September 24.
Mr. Zimmerman seconded the motion. Chairman Thompson asked Mrs.
Kruse to make this request to Mr. Vance in the form of a separate
memo. Motion carried 6-0.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Slavin moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Zimmerman. Motion
carried 6-0 and the meeting was properly adjourned at 7:40 P. M.
Respectfully submitted,
Suzanne M. Kruse
Recording Secretary
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NOTICE
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the following application has been
made to the BOARD OF ADJI/STMENT of the CiTY. OF BOYNTON BEACH,
FLORIDA, for a variance as indicated, under and pursuant to the
provisions of the zoning code of said City:
Parcel ~1 - Lot 50, High Point
Recorded in Plat Book 23, Page 225
Palm Beach COunty Records
Request
Address
- Relief from 7'~6~' side setback requirement
to 3' side setback for screen enclosure
around pool.
- 207 S. E. 25th Avenue
Applicant - Orville A~ g Eva E. Kroeck
A PHBLIC HEARING will be held relative to the above application
by the BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT at the City Hall, Boynton Beach,
Florida, on Monday~ September 10, 1979 at 7:00 P. M. All
interested parties are notified to appear at said hearing in
person or by attorney and be heard.
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