Minutes 03-16-00 MI'NUTES OF THE AGENDA PREVIEW CONFERENCE
HELD TN CONFERENCE ROOM "B"~ CI'TY HALL~ BOYNTON BEACH~ FLORZDA
ON THURSDAY~ MARCH 16~ 2000 AT 4:30 P.M.
PRESENT
Gerald Broening, Mayor
Ronald Weiland, Vice Mayor
Bruce Black, Commissioner
Charlie Fisher, Commissioner
Wilfred Hawkins, Interim City Manager
Nicholas Igwe, Assistant City Attorney
Sue Kruse, City Clerk
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Hawkins called the meeting to order at 4:40 p.m. and began reviewing the Final Draft Agenda.
ZV. CONSENT AGENDA:
Approve open burning of piles of vegetation within the scope of Fire
Rescue requirements
Mr. Hawkins explained that our Code does not permit opening burning of vegetation. Therefore, the item
is being presented to the Commission for consideration.
Chief Bingham said the Fire Department will perform a test burn first and then will monitor the burn. If
there is smoke infiltration into the surrounding community or if the vegetation burns slower than
anticipated, the Fire Department will require air incineration.
Mr. Sugerman suggested that this item title be changed to include the location of this open burn. He
further suggested that consideration be given to the granting of a permit rather than approving the open
burning of vegetation. Mr. Hawkins recommended that Chief Bingham and the City Attorney meet to
review this issue.
Mr. Sugerman advised the Commission that an acceptable response to this request might be "no".
V. CZTY MANAGER'S REPORT:
Mr. Hawkins reported that in response to a Commission request with respect to landscaping regulation
review, he asked Planning & Zoning to put together a project schedule and ideas about what the review
would entail. Mr. Hawkins feels the project schedule is reasonable based on other work staff is doing.
Vice Mayor Weiland requested that the Commission be provided with a copy of the current minimum
landscaping requirements by Monday.
V']:]:. PUBLTC HEARZNG:
Public Hearing for a Development Order Amendment and Zoning Code
Text Change for Quantum Park at Boynton Beach
At Mr. Hawkins' request, Mr. Greene will provide back-up information related to this item.
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X~. LEGAL:
B. Ordinances - Ist Reading
Proposed Ordinance No. O00- Re: Amending
Chapter 9, Article IV, Section 9-51 of the City of Boynton Beach
Code of Ordinances by creating a new subsection (e) to provide
that reasonable and proper fees are established for Fire Rescue
Services in the absence of a Mutual Aid or Interlocal Agreement
Chief Bingham advised that the only relationship this item has to Ocean Ridge is that Ocean Ridge would
be able to call on the City of Boynton Beach for assistance just like any other agency that has an
agreement with someone other than Boynton Beach. According to the present Code, the City of Boynton
Beach cannot respond unless an agreement is in place. We have Interlocal Agreements with Palm Beach
County, Boca Raton and Delray Beach, and we have regular contract services to the Village of Golf and
the Town of Hypoluxo.
C. Resolutions:
Proposed Resolution No. RO0- Re: Amending our Interlocal
Agreement with Palm Beach County for Boat Club Park improvements and
Tntracoastal Waterway Park improvements according to the plan previously
negotiated by Vice Mayor Weiland
Vice Mayor Weiland requested that the wording of this item be changed to remove the words, "according
to the plan previously negotiated by Vice Mayor Weiland". He questioned whether the title of the item
should be changed entirely to exclude any reference to Tntracoastal Waterway Park Tmprovements since
we are accepting only $900,000 for Boat Club Park improvements.
3ohn Wildner, Parks Director, explained that the original agreement title included both Boat Club Park and
Tntracoastal Waterway Park improvements. Since this is an amendment, the title had to include both
Parks. Mr. Wildner reported that the bid packet was completed, but because of the delay, the bid
requirements will have to be adjusted and there is no estimate at this time regarding when this item will
go out for bids.
D, Other
Recreation impact fee for the Manatee Bay development in the
amount of $229,865
Appeal of administrative decision
Establishment of fee
Mr. Hawkins advised that this is a motion to approve a staff recommendation regarding the recreation
impact fee for the Manatee Bay project on North Federal Highway. The City is requesting that the
developer pay a fee of $229,865. However, the developer first said the fee should be $148,059.
However, the developer submitted a second proposal whereby he would pay $159,721. That is a
difference of $70,244.
The issue is that there is submerged land amounting to 6.1 acres. Staff believes that land is of no
substantial value. However, that submerged land is calculated into the amount of land that is applicable.
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This land is on the Intracoastal Waterway. The City asked the developer to submit an appraisal for the
submerged land. However, that appraisal has not yet been submitted.
Mr. Wildner explained that the developer submitted an appraisal for the entire 16-acre parcel including
the submerged land. They do not want to provide an appraisal for the submerged lands because they
know the value will be much lower. Tt is staff's contention that the fee should be figured on the basis of
only the buildable land. The basis for the fee is that the money would be used to buy similar land in the
same area to build a park. :In actuality, we use that money to develop a park close by rather than try to
buy the land.
Commissioner Black asked for clarification of when the City asks for the money. Mr. Wildner advised that
the City requests the money at the time of plat. :In this case, there was no plat and that is part of the
reason why this took so long. There is no plat requirement for rental property.
Commissioner Black asked if the Commission could direct staff to change the process to require the
payment of fees to master planning rather than at the time of platting.
Mr. Hawkins explained that Commissioner Black was referring to revisiting a land regulation issue. At
some point in time, we may want to do that. However, the Commission has several options on this issue.
There are several numbers on the table. The Commission could select one of those numbers or request
that staff talks with the developer about another number.
Attorney :[gwe explained that the developer would have to comply with our Code. :~f the Commission
votes on a certain figure, even if they open for business, the City could place a lien on the property if
they don't pay the fee.
Mr. Wildner said his understanding of the issue is Certificates of Occupancy couldn't be held up for non-
building related issues. Mr. Wildner advised that a wooden dock exists on this property that is part of
their recreation package. Therefore, the developer is already utilizing the submerged land to a minimum
degree.
Mayor Broening said the issue of submerged lands has been one of contention at Yachtsmans Cove for
years and it has pushed up the value of properties. The value of properties without submerged land has
decreased.
Vice Mayor Weiland pointed out that Olen would be developing Quantum Park.
the City would want to get into a battle with that developer at this point.
requested a position on the agenda for the purpose of discussing this issue.
compelling argument for the lower figure.
He questioned whether
Mr. Wildner said Olen
They feel they have a
XZT. UNFINZSHED BUSINESS:
Review and Consideration of the pre-application(s) received, for
submittal to Palm Beach County, Department of Economic Development,
under the Round I]::[ Core Grant Program ~/'~!~'£~Z7~)
Dale Sugerman, Assistant City Manager, advised that staff's recommendation for this item is that the
Commission remove it from the table and deny the application since ]:nvestments, Ltd. has been generally
uncooperative in restricting the types of businesses they will allow in the plaza.
B. Discussion on Ocean Ridge Response to Land Sale and Purchase
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Mr. Hawkins advised that Attorney Cherof is requesting that the Commission provide authorization for
himself and Mr. Hawkins to close out this matter with the Commission's direction regarding the City's
position.
Commissioner Fisher asked how real the possibility of eminent domain is from Ocean Ridge's perspective,
Attorney Tgwe said it is a very real possibility because they would be taking the property for public use,
Vice Mayor Weiland disagreed and advised that he met with Henderson Tillman earlier in the day to
discuss this issue, Vice Mayor Weiland urged the Commissioners to discuss this issue with Mr, Tillman,
Mr. Hawkins advised that it is important for the Commission to determine its position on this issue.
Ocean Ridge has presented its position. We must assess that and determine where this City wants to go.
Once that is done, staff is requesting that the Commission allow two administrative people to move
forward.
When Commissioner Black asked whether or not we have a signed Interlocal Agreement with Ocean
Ridge, Vice Mayor Weiland responded affirmatively and Mr. Hawkins responded negatively. Vice Mayor
Weiland clarified that Ocean Ridge has a formal signed document for the Interlocal Agreement, but not
for the land sale.
XIII. OTHER:
Utility Rate Study
Mr, Sugerman distributed the Final Draft Report on the Utility Rate Study, Mr, Sugerman recommended
that the Commission set a workshop meeting for the second week in April when he will make a
presentation.,
A workshop meeting will be conducted to review the Rate Study Report including various technologies.
· Zndustrial Avenue & Costa Bella Proposals
Mr, Sugerman requested that each Commissioner take copies of the Tndustrial Avenue and Costa Bella
engineering proposals for review, Engineering firms for the design of these two projects submitted these
proposals, He reminded the Commissioners that staff was asked to allow the Commission to select an
engineer. Fourteen proposals from nine firms were submitted for the two projects, Mr, Sugerman also
submitted a cover memorandum that explains the options available to the Commission,
Mr. Sugerman explained that the Commission would have to listen to presentations from engineering
firms and make a decision regarding which firm has the best qualifications to do the work. After
reviewing the documents, the Commissioners could shortlist the group to three or four firms. However, a
public process must take place. The documents are not bids. They do not contain dollar amounts. They
are based on qualifications. The Commission selects an engineering firm to design the work based upon
their qualifications.
Mayor Broening expressed concern about the competency of civilians selecting the best person. Mr.
Sugerman explained that the firms would present their professional qualifications. These proposals are
resumes. The Commissioners must review the proposals and rank them. That ranking must be turned in
and announced publicly. A shortlist will be developed and the firms that make the shortlist would be
invited to make presentations. Once a firm is selected, negotiations for price would begin.
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Vice Mayor Weiland explained that it was his intention to open this process to other bidders in an effort
to get a lower price. If the City enters into negotiations with one firm, we will be in the same position as
we were with CDM. Mr. Sugerman advised that if the price of the Number i firm is too high, we would
go to the Number 2 firm. Vice Mayor Weiland reiterated that he was of the opinion that the City would
receive five or ten prices that could be compared to CDM. Mr. Sugerman said that when selecting a firm,
it must be done by qualifications - not Iow-ball price.
Vice Mayor Weiland questioned whether it would be possible to keep the numbers suppressed when
negotiating so as not to give the second and third people an advantage. Attorney :[gwe was not certain,
but felt that an exemption from the Sunshine Law might exist to prevent the second person from
undercutting the first person. Mr. Sugerman said staff would investigate suppressing the dollar amount.
The Commission agreed that this project should be addressed "sooner" rather than "later".
· Community Redevelopment Aqency (CRA)
Commissioner Black said he has not seen a great deal of movement on the issue of the CRA for many
years. He would like Quintus Greene to select the staff to comprise an independent CRA that could
report back to the Commission. Commissioner Black would like the Commission to get out of the CRA
business.
There was a consensus of the Commission that an item should be added to the agenda for discussion
about adding two members to the Community Redevelopment Agency and directing Mr. Greene to
develop a process to add these members.
Mr. Hawkins advised that the previous Commission discussed criteria for adding people to the Community
Redevelopment Agency. Mr. Greene should review those criteria.
Vice Mayor Weiland pointed out that if one of the five Commissioners decided to exclude themselves from
the CRA, it would open up another seat. Then, instead of adding only two additional people, there could
be more members added.
· Newspaper Article
Vice Mayor Weiland referred to a newspaper article he read this morning regarding Mack McCray's feeling
that the minority community would not be represented because there is no minority on the Commission.
Vice Mayor Weiland feels this Commission should take an extra step to show that they will be
represented. This could be accomplished by making sure a Commissioner attends the Community
Forums. Vice Mayor Weiland said he has worked with people in all districts and this might be the proper
time to develop a policy regarding having at least one Commissioner at various community meetings.
Mayor Broening felt this was an area that should be handled by Wayne Segal.
Commissioner Fisher said the issue of rotation came up during the campaign. He agreed that
Commissioners should take turns and get out where the people area.
Mr. Hawkins said some Commissions in other municipalities call community meetings and take the City
Commission meetings "on the road". Hester Center and/or the Woman's Club could be used for these
meetings.
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Vice Mayor Weiland requested that Mr. Hawkins expound on the purpose of the Agenda Preview
Conference. Mr. Hawkins said the purpose of the Agenda Preview Conference is for an exchange of
information to deal with issues on the agenda. It provides an opportunity to bring items forward and
gives staff an opportunity to explain the agenda items. This Conference is a time for Commissioners to
ask questions. During this Conference, the Commission could request the addition of agenda items. Mr.
Hawkins reminded the Commissioners to be careful not to indicate the philosophy that might indicate
their vote.
· Workshop for City Commissioners
Commissioner Fisher requested that a workshop meeting be planned for the Commission to sit down and
develop goals for the next year.
Mr. Hawkins said a strategic planning session would be timely with the new City Manager coming on
board.
· Discussion on Speaker's Cards
Commissioner Fisher requested that an item be added to the agenda regarding the cards for speakers.
Mayor Broening advised that the Commissioners receive a report from the City that pertains to everyone
who asked a question. Some of the responses are given immediately and some are done a day or two
later. The audience may not have an appreciation of that. Mayor Broening explained that the meeting is
not a Town Meeting. Tt is a legislative event that has a Public Audience component. That public
audience component does not have to be included. There are very few things on the agenda that require
any input from the audience.
Commissioner Fisher felt this raised a question about management style and how to run a meeting.
Mayor Broening responded that the Commission follows Robert's Rules of Order.
Commissioner Fisher recommended including a discussion on the agenda to decide if this is a practice the
new management team wants to continue with through the next year. Mayor Broening advised that
Commissioner Fisher was free to add the item to the agenda for discussion.
Commissioner Black pointed out that when the process was instituted, it was introduced as a "trial basis"
to see how it would work. He feels it is too soon to revisit the issue and believes that people will adjust
to it.
Commissioner Fisher questioned whether or not the implementation of this process was related to using
the cards as recording vehicles.
Vice Mayor Weiland explained that the public wants answers to their questions, but if the Commission
responds with an answer the public doesn't like, an argument will ensue. Mayor Broening added that
99% of the questions do not have anything to do with the Commissioners' jobs. The questions relate to
operations and the Commissioners are not operators.
Mayor Broening suggested posting a report at the back of the Chambers. However, Commissioner Black
felt no one would read it.
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Commissioner Black explained that when Mr. Hawkins reports at a meeting that he responded to previous
questions, it is proof that the City is overcoming the Number 1 objection.
Commissioner Fisher recommended that the amount of time people have to fill out the card should be
extended since everyone cannot be present by 6:30 p.m. to meet the deadline, Mayor Broening said he
has been extending the time limit.,
Commissioner Fisher feels this program needs to be sold differently and recommended that it be
explained again.
Mr. Hawkins advised that using the cards makes people think about what they're going to say before they
say it; it creates a record so that the City can respond, and it is a point of order. When a town meeting is
held, people are free to go to the podium and say whatever they want.
· Security System
Commissioner Fisher advised that Chuck Magazine told him that the security system in the Lobby would
not be installed until the Lobby is expanded. Mr. Hawkins disagreed, He explained that there was
discussion about expanding the Telephone Receptionist's area, but we do not have to wait until that is
accomplished to activate the security system.
X~V. AD3OURNMENT:
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting properly adjourned at 6:45
p.m.
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