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LEGAL APPROVAL MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOr-MENT BOARD MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA SEPTEMBER 9,1997 · Auto Care Center of America - Site Plan - Approved subject to the Planning and Development Board's comments. · Alhambra Square North - Site Plan - Postponed by the applicant to the September 16th City Commission meeting. 6. SWEARING IN OF WITNESSES Attorney Pawelczyk swore in all those who planned to testify this evening. 7. OLD BUSINESS None. 8. NEW BUSINESS A. Public Hearings Administrative Appeal 1. Project: Agent: Owner: Location: Description: Cross Creek Centre Stewart F. Denholtz Cross Creek Centre Association North side of Boynton Beach Boulevard, approximately 400 feet east of Congress Avenue - 1301-1313 W. Boynton Beach Boulevard Request for approval to replace the existing awnings of the eastern-most building to allow a change in color from white to yellow and white stripes. The one condition of approval submitted by staff was to retain the barrel canopies on the eastern building as white, or change the color to match the building or the awning color on the main building. Robert Bentz of Land Design South and Stewart Denholtz, owner of the Cross Creek Centre. were present. Mr.- Bentz advised that in 1987, this was approved with the awning request before this board this evening. This center was originally designed by Gene Lawrence. His intent was to design a simple building in one monotone color and have an accent on that building, which were the awnings, The awnings were yellow and white, not the standard yellow or white as they are today, to give them definition from the remaining portion of the center. It was Mr. Lawrence's intent to make the 3 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELO, I~ENT BOARD MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA SEPTEMBER 9, 1997 architectural elements that protrude from the building that identify the access points into that portion of the office building stand out differently than the remaining portion of the property. Today these buildings are a monotone color and have no definition and do not stand out. By putting the band on the awnings, it was Mr. Lawrence's intent to provide a depth to the overall building and give it some definition and delineation from the remaining portion of the center. He requested the board's approval to allow the applicant to replace the two semi-circular awnings with the yellow and white banding that was originally approved 10 years ago, return to the original architectural theme, and provide better delineation. He said staff is recommending that they be either yellow, white, or tan. The members of the board were provided with a brochure showing the center when it was first built. It was an artist's rendition showing the yellow and white banding as requested. Chairman Wische inquired about staff's objection to the yellow and white. Ms. Heyden did not feel staff should overturn a decision that was made by a previous City Commission. Mr. Aguila was in favor of the two colors. He pointed out that there are some dead trees that have not been replaced for a few years, and he wished somebody would do something about that. Mr. Dube preferred all tan or all white, but not all yellow or yellow and white. He felt it would be too garish. Mr. Reed had no problem with either design. He felt this was a matter of personal preference rather than some principle and that we should let the developer do what he thinks is best for his property. Mr. Myott asked if the applicant is proposing to install the end caps on the awnings as shown in the renderings versus how the awnings were installed. Mr. Bentz did not propose to install the end caps as shown in the renderings. Mr. Myott preferred white. Mr. Friedland felt yellow and white would be an interesting, bright, and cheerful approach as opposed to monotone. Ms, Frazier felt the rendering was beautiful and pointed out that because of the yellow awning, everybody knows exactly where Cross Creek is. Mr. Rosenstock believes that when the Commission originally promulgated a sign code, all existing yellow signs were given a certain length of time to be removed. That sign code was abandoned, but he still thinks it was right. He felt yellow was a garish color. 4 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOI-'MENT BOARD MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA SEPTEMBER 9, 1997 It is a color that does not fit in with the fundamental coloring in certain areas of the City. He ag reed with staff. Chairman Wische stated that his wife was on the Community Appearance Board. At that time, there was a lot of controversy about the colors. Everyone thought yellow would be way out of line, but after it was up a while, everyone thought it was beautiful. There was a new innovation the way it was done and it was easy to identify. He went to every meeting and was in favor of the yellow and white and against all white. He thought all white did nothing for it. He still feels the same way. Chairman Wische opened the public hearing. A citizen in the audience liked the yellow and white. Motion Mr. Aguila moved to approve the applicant's request for the yellow and white canvas awning at the Cross Creek Centre, without the front face as it currently exists. Mr. Friedland seconded the motion, which carried 4-3. Messrs. Rosenstock, Dube and Myott cast the dissenting votes. B. Other Discussion 1. Draft agenda for a joint Planning and Development Board, City Commission and Chamber of Commerce workshop (tentatively 11/3/97 at 7:00 p.m.) regarding architectural design, landscaping of nonconforming properties and illumination levels for gas stations/convenience stores. A draft of the agenda for the joint Planning and Development Board, City Commission, and Chamber of Commerce workshop was provided in the backup material with the agenda. Mr. Rosenstock asked what the Chamber of Commerce has to do with lighting levels, etc. Ms. Heyden explained that the landscape issue of nonconforming properties was brought up by one of the Commissioners about a month ago. All the Commissioners thought it was time to do something with this issue that had been discussed about a year ago in connection with the Community Appearance Code. Staff also had some concern about architectural design issues and this board being split. This makes it difficult for staff to make recommendations. Staff does not want to lead the applicants down one path only to have things reversed by the Planning and Development Board. It is important that we get clear direction from this board. The City Manager felt it was 5 Any change. in building plans or specifications. m~st be recorded with this office. Any work not covered abow. must have a valid permit prior to starting. In consideration of t~ granllng of thIS .permlt, the owner and builder agree to erect this structure in full cOrTllliance with the Building and Zoning Codes of the City of Boynton Beach Florida. ThIS permit fee IS not refundable. . fl":.'i N rO~ "- . aJ o I; I~;: T <" '</ ',<" ') '-~~" " " DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT BUILDING DIVISION q 1- (!j{)C!;~ BUILDING PERMIT APPLlCA nON (Please PrinU Permit # (FOR SUB PERMITS ONLY) ounty Property Control #)/j l 1- a..q Owner's Phone # m:JJ.,. 0 _ w Zip Bonding Company Bonding Co. Address City Architect'Engineer's Name Architect'Engineer's Address Mortgage Lender's Name Mortgage Lender's Address -:L. /' SINGLE FAMILY: _ DUPLEX: _ MULTI-FAMILY: _ HOTEL: _ RETAIL:. OFFICE:.J INDUSTRIAL:_ (check one) ESTIMATED VALUE OF CO N: $. .:?JO DESCRIPTION OF WORK: Application is hereby required to obtain a permit to do the wort< and installations as indicated. I certify that no wort< or installation ha~ commenced prior to the issuance of a permit and that all work will be performed to meet the standards of all codes, laws, rules anc regulations goveming construction in this jurisdiction, I understand that a separate permit must be secured for ELECTRICAL PLUMBING. SIGNS, WELLS, POOLS, FURNACES. BOILERS. HEATERS, TANKS and AIR CONDITIONERS WORK, ETC. OWNER'S AFFIDAVIT: I certify that all the foregoing information is accurate and that all work will be done in compliance with all applicable codes, laws, rules and regulations governing construction and zoning. WARNING TO OWNER: YOUR FAILURE TO ReCORD A NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT MAY RESULT IN YOUR PAYING TWICE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR PROPERTY. IF YOU INTEND TO OBTAIN FINANCING, CONSULT WITH YOUR LENDER OR AN ATTORNE~ BEFORE RECORDING YOUR NonCE OF COMMENCEMENT. Property Owne". or Agent'o 8Ignolure w:: -E7JJ . Date ~191- gt~~ ;111 (date) tYl~Pz;;'(tI! ;}~~ , s identification and who did (did not) take an ath STATE OF FLORIDA, COUNTY OF PALM BEACH The foregoing instrument w-. Dnowtedged before me this who is pel'8onally~ has produced (SEAL) ~~~' ~ / Signature of person taking acknOWledgeme",~ If ' or ~ ~Rnowledgement-typed, printec or stamped Titl,..-6r ~ . number, if any P c:7 7 .. PUaIC ~ BondecI By ServIce Ins . L . L Contractor's Slgn.tuN ~-'- 4~:j No. CC638467 ~\!~, /(/7 7 STATE OF FLORIDA, C;Q NTY OF PALM BEACH ~ (, n~ ('t The foregoing instrument wae acknowledged before me 111:: -~ ~ \\0.." (date) I>i-=C~ t....Q"^-~ who is personally known to me or who has produced _ as identification and who did (did not) take an oath -- (SEAL) ~ CHRISTINAMIlLS. -- ~ <<t' 'e;COMMISSION#CC657717 ~/- .," \\\"\: ~ Signature tak~~~R~ment' ~ ~'L~.L I~( offtcer talrjng acknowledgement-typed, printe< or stamped. ATLANtTc BONtllNG CO INr Title or rank \. Serial number, if any (C6r$~w v: C\:1I(I~..tGI iv, \ :...;";..., i Contractor's Stat6 Certification of Registration No. Liability Insurance Expiration Date Wort<ers' Compensation Expiration Date ''11 ( -r Application Approved By ~ ~ ~~. ~, Permit Offlcer.Date: ~ 17 f q ( " Any change in building plans or specincations must be recorded with this offtce. Any wor1( not covered above must have a valid perm prior to starting. In consideration of granting this permit. the owner and builder agree to erect this structure in full compliance with th' Building and Zoning Codes of the City of Boynton Beach. NOTE: This permit VOID after 180 DAYS UNLESS the wort< which it covers has commenced. All Contractors must have valid Stat Certification or County Competency plus County and City Occupational Licenses prior to obtaining permit ISSUANCE OF THIS PERMIT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE VIOLATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS FEES ARE NOT REFUNDABLE A:\BOYNTONWPD Revised 6/18/97 mh "-City of Boynton Beach DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT Planning and Zoning Division Comment Sheet Name of Reviewer:~, tilt rU\ Project Title: Di{ttJ r~Lt~ iJ\V/ \ fJO \ VXt{ \~~1~ 9 leD\, 1;Vl' . . . . . Permit Number: ~,. 'I.n?f7/ . Type of Review: ~70^) \f" V;4. tv\) Cu'{' 'trt\0~\ ~\f (~t~}}~ '1 )~7 . . . . . To Building Department Plans Analyst Date On Building Department Date Stamp marking on plans: J\ro \ Date Planning and Zoning Department received documents for above - referenced Permit Application Number: 11\1 Date this determination sheet was given to Building Department-4l1 The following is a list of the Technical review Committee departments that are required to review the above-referenced permit documents prior to the permit being issued: BUILDING: j AlP NIA DATE Mech.lPlumbing Electrical (;tructural FIRE: ENGINEERING: UTILITIES: POLICE: PUBLIC WORKS: j' ) r \ PLANNING AND ZONING: 0//ft( &, 1!-t1,IQ1 RECREATIONS AND PARKS: FORESTER: Notes: C:\VANESSA\WORK\COMMENT SHEET.DOC 06/26/97 J .26, '97 13: 56 AWNI~'- BY JAY ~ P,6 If Permit No. 'Tax Folio No. O~ 43 45 2~:lU UU2 OOOU NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT jUL-02-1997 1:50pm 97-234405 ! OR~II ~1'111111 tfli\;~f11.11 DOROTHY H. WILKEN, CLERK PB COUNTY, FL Stat. 01 Florida County 01 The undeBi9ned htAlby ;Iv." nobC8 lIIet ilT'lltcvemenl wiD a. midI 10 celt.in Aiel property, and in aoccrdan<:o1l with ChapW 713. Florida Slawtell. 1M fOllOWin; infonnalion i. providld in \Ilis Nolice 01 Commencement DescrIption of property: (or attach legal description) Lot, . Block Subdivision: tRObS CA(0~1< Q~r1:r~"~{?jJ Genll'lll description of Improvement: Replace canvas awnings PROPERTY OWNER Name and Mailing Addr... Int.re.t In property: Nama and ad dr... of Fee Slmpl. titleholder (If other than Own.r): CONTRACTOR Name and Addrua: Cross Creek Center Associates, Ltd. 337 E lndiantown Road; SU1te ~ Jupiter. FL 33477 ~ ~ame ~IB~~~~s~~alf~n a~~nue, W~~ / / / / \ / '-" If Surety Bond, Name and add,... of Surety and Bond Amount LENDER Nam. and addre..: S AMRESCO Management Persons wtthln the State 01 Florida designated by Owner upon whom notices or other documents may be selVed 88 provided b~ Sectlon 713.13(1)(a)7" Florida Statuto: N/A In addition 10 himself, Owner deelgnatea ~ / ~ of to receive a copy of the Lienor's Notice 81 provided In Section 713.13(a)(b), Florida Slatutes. EXPIRA TlON DATI! 0' THIS NOTICE: e-rn-o-- ~ ill ~ ~ W ~ I . " n 7 1997 U (upiru 1 ,.... from thl "'Ill of~. i1UI'el8ll\ dllll it lpeeilildl Signature of Owner P't:: t';n;re~ame' Stewart F en 0 tz, ~res1deRt C 'general partm~r ot CROSS CREEK ,"'_ of ..,,, J;ENTRF. ASSOCIAT:;<fLTD. FlrlRtetl HelM: .. . SWO AND SUBSCRIBED b ore me thl, ti/t . BUILDING t (amx leal) !t I:!j f~~ :r- ... Retum Recorded Document to: DENHOLTZ ASSOCIATES 117 F. INDIANTOWN ROAD. ,TTTPTTF.R FL 33477 i; ?\ ~j) SUITE lS ~( (IIltee .... M.IIN II rutln.d tar r~ oVa ......) '< . !.;: r:; (\ .. .' JUN-26-1997 14:17 76% P.06 JUN.26,'97 13:56 AWNINGS r JAY o P.5 NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT Form of Affidavit Project Name CROSS CREEK CENTRE Project Address 1313/1301 W BOYNTON BEACH BOULEVARD, BOYNTON BEACH Project Owner CROSS CREEK CENTRE ASSOCIATES, LTD ;..; Owner Name CCAGP, INC., general partner, Stewart F Denholtz, President Contractor Name AWNINGS BY JAY, INC. C tra. Addr 5107 Australian Avenue WBP on CLor css I, Stewart F Denhol tz, President of CCAGP, Ine. , do hereby affinn that a Notice of Commencement has been filed at the Palm Beach County Courthouse for the aforementiQned constroctlon project in accordance with Chapter 713 of Florida Statutes. It is further understood that prior to a request for Inspection 011 this project that a copy of the"recorded" Notice of Commencement shall be filed with the Building Division of the City of Boynton Beach. Florida. ~/YP . Signature of Owner ~. . STEWART F DENHOLTZ Printed Signature of Owner \ ,. >" . '5 Sworn and subscnbed before me this I day of !--/ 19:I1-. . .My Commission expires fly Known [J Other 1.0. '{OJ . ~ & ~U Wi ~ r U1J . nn 7 1997 Lp BUILDING :.... ~ ,. ;: ~.: I:, ~: ; ,.. : ",'. JUN-26-1997 14:17 96% P.05 /. o CrhL~ 5 )<DA4'/ c!tJCeK- -H~ MINUTES - REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 18, 1988 described in O. R. Book 3494, page 148, Palm Beach County Public Records Description: SITE PLANS - Request for site plan and shared parking approval to allow for construction of a 4,350 square foot fellowship hall and a change in parking lot layout and design. The Planning and Zoning Board unanimously recommended appro- val of this request, subject to staff comments. After a brief description by Jim Golden, Commissioner Weiner moved to approve the request by St. Joseph's Episcopal Church for site plan and shared parking approval to allow for construction of a 4,350 square foot fellowship hall and a change in parking lot layout and design. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Mann and carried 5-0. H. Discussion of Color - Cross Creek Shopping Center City Manager Cheney stated that the developer requested that they be allowed to put up a $30,000 cash bond to cover what- ever might need to be done to satisfy everyone regarding the color issue of this project. This would allow them to go ahead and execute leases and get the facility open in the fall and prior to the holiday season. City Manager Cheney recommended this cash bond be accepted. City Manager Cheney further explained that the material had to be replaced due to the fact it was not fire resistant material. When the material was changed, a color shade resulted although it was the same color description. The developer realizes this is a problem. The CAB unanimously recommended to the Commission that a change in awning material be allowed so that which is presently existing could remain. The stipula- tion was made that the office canopy (the tall one on the east buildings) be changed to a solid white canopy. This is the awning which sticks about 25' into the air in a semi- circle fashion. Mayor Marchese noted that Steve Rhodes, representing this development, agreed to do the following at the CAB meeting: 1) remove the yellow from the 25' high devices, 2) if the City would not hamper him he would go to two colors (blue and turquoise) for the signage, and 3) to make a decision as to whether the signs would go above or below the canopy. He favored putting them below, but needed to talk to the deve- loper. Mayor Marchese had no problem in going along with Mr. Rhodes and he found him to be very cooperative. Vice Mayor Hester stated that it was his feeling that the boards should pay more attention to matters when approving colors. He felt that once a decision was made it should be the best -17- MINUTES - REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 18, 1988 decision possible. He understood that three colors had pre- viously been approved for this project. Changes can be made, but he felt more attention should be paid when approving colors. He noted that the CAB had also approved the yellow color for the canopies. Mayor Marchese agreed and felt it was unfortunate that the yellow was such a bright, shiny material. Commissioner Olenik questioned the decision of putting the signs above or below the canopies. He did not want to hide them from the road if they were placed below the canopies. Mayor Marchese noted that Mr. Rhodes requested he be allowed to discuss this with the developer. Mr. Annunziato noted there were signs already installed and they are above the canopy. Mayor Marchese stated that he would go with the use of the two colors as approved by the CAB. Vice Mayor Hester moved that the City Commission was in agreement with the decisions made at the Community Appearance Board at their meeting held October 17, 1988. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Olenik and carried 5-0. After a short break, the meeting resumed at 8:00 P. M. PUBLIC HEARING - 7:00 P.M. OR AS SOON THEREAFTER AS THE AGENDA PERMITS A. Project: Agent: Owner: Location: Legal Description: Description: Kentucky Fried Chicken Siteworks Architects & Planners, Inc. Anthony Mannino East Boynton Beach Boulevard at N. E. 1st Street, northwest corner That certain 14' alley lying North of, adjacent and abutting to Lots 21, 22, 23 & 24 inclusive in Block 1 of SHEPARD FUNK ADDITION, as recorded in Plat Book 1, Page 15, Palm Beach County, Florida ABANDONMENT - Request for the abandonment of a fourteen (14) foot wide unimproved service alley. The Planning and Zoning Board recommended approval of this request (vote was not unanimous), subject to staff comments. B. Project: Agent: Owner: Kentucky Fried Chicken Siteworks Architects & Planners, Inc. Anthony Mannino -18- -.. MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 17, W88 Location: :Legal Description: Project Description: 315 South Federal Highway /~",... t' See "Addendum G" at tayl1ed to the original copy of these minu~eB // Request to 'improve parking lot and drive- in addition,' Nelly Martinez, Robert Wedding Architects, 3221 N. E. 30th Street, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308, reminded the Members that this project came before them a few months ago. At that time, they ha~'four drive-thrus. Now, they were having two instead. ' // Mrs. Wische aSked if the comment from Kevin Hallahan, City Forester, or a hedge along the southeast corner of the propert had been addressed. Ms. Martinez answered that they d. M7~ Lubin moved, seconded by Mrs. Wische, to accept the plans, subject to staff comments. Motion carried 7-0. @ Project Name: Owner: Agent: Location: Legal Description: Project Description: t Cross Creek' Centre Cross Creek Associates Steve Rhodes 1313 West Boynton Beach Boulevard See "Addendum Hit attached to the original copy of these minutes Request elevation change to commercial building Eugene Lawrence, Architect, The Lawrence Group, 205 Worth Avenue, Palm Beach, FL 33480, said they were asked to appear before the CAB because of the color of'the awnings. There was a change in material, and he had samples of the materials that were approved and the materials that were installed. The material he passed around was a Sunbrella material that was approved when the applicant appeared before. Mr. Lawrence stated that the material was ~vailable in several fire rated colors. . " In the time span between the installation and when the\ material was installed, there was a requirement of the City that the material be fire rated. This color was not fir, rated. After searching a number of companies, Mr. Lawrence said they came up with a color they believed to be the / / " -20- MINUTES ~ COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 17, 1988 closest match that they could possibly make. He showed it to the Board Members and told them it is fire rated. Mr. Lawrence did not know if they were asking for approval or a sense of the Board. Mrs. Wische asked if Mr. Lawrence would consider changing one of the colors on the canopy to white. Mr. Lawrence's client was not present but had instructed him that if the Board wanted the two barrel balls in the office building all white, they would do that. He told Chairman Berman that they would be lighted from below. The applicant would do that at their expense in order to make everybody happy. Mrs. Wische noticed that two signs are already up, and one is a suitable color in one color. Almost next door to it is a cleaning store that has a sign with more than one color. The part that says "One hour" is aqua. All of the rest is blue except for a logo. She wanted the Board to request that the applicant stay with one color. Chairman Berman asked what was approved originally, and Mrs. Wische answered, "Three." Mrs. Wische did not think it would be too expensive for the "One Hour" and the logo to be changed to the one color. Then Cross Creek Centre would have one color through- out. Mr. Lawrence had no authority to make that decision. The issue with the awning cover was discussed with him, but the issue with the signs was not. Mr. Lawrence said he could take this up with his client. Chairman Berman said the CAB would appreciate it if Mr. Lawrence would come back before the Board when he gets an answer. Mr. Jaeger called attention to the request on the agenda, which was for an elevation change. He asked if Mr. Lawrence was requesting that it be deleted from the agenda. Mr. Lawrence replied that they are not going forward with the elevation change. He was before the P&Z Board last week. There had been a request for a change in the sign parapet, which Mr. Lawrence said he withdrew at the P&Z Board meeting. Mr. Jaeger stated that the applicant was withdrawing what was on the agenda tonight. Tomorrow (October 18, 1988), Mr. Jaeger said the City Commission will discuss the issue of the colors, and the CAB should send them a recommendation. If they wanted to include the issue of signage, they should do so. If Mr. Lawrence's client wanted him to, Mr. Jaeger said he could address that issue. Mr. Lawrence thought that was a very fair situation. -21- MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 17, 1988 Vice Chairwoman Sheridan asked if each of the colors on the canopy were separate strips. Mr. Lawrence replied that they are yellow and white, but as he understood the mechanics of it, all of that awning would have to come down and be remade. He informed her that the background of the building is a couple of shades of gray. Vice Chairwoman Sheridan thought it was cream colored, and she wanted the applicant to think about whether a beige canopy would be more attractive, if he was taking all of the strips down. Mr. Lawrence stated that the applicant may be able to use some of the awning. Mr. Lawrence told the Members that there are hundreds of shades of whites, grays, and beiges. Because of the differ- ence in the level of intensity of the light, he tended to think that when the yellow is removed, they will find more compatibility with the basic color of the building. They are getting a spill from the yellow at this point. There were further comments. Chairman Berman pointed out that they were discussing something that was not on the agenda. Mr. Jones moved, seconded by Mrs. Shuman, to DELETE the request for elevation change to the commercial building at Cross Creek Centre from the agenda. Motion carried 7-0. Discussion re Canopies at Cross Creek Centre If they fire proof any material at all, Mrs. Shuman asked if that would mean it would reflect light. Mr. Lawrence answered that the Sunbrella fabric had a material that was at one time impregnated into the fiber, which was a woven material. The reason it was pulled from the market was because it would not hold the color. Mr. Lawrence said they went through 15 or 20 materials and could not find one other than the other material the Members had that could get fire rated. He elaborated. Discussion re Signs at Cross Creek Centre Mrs. Shuman recalled that they recommended that in the future all signs should have one color for each sign and not three different colors. Mr. Jaeger informed the Members that the colors were blue, turquoise, and red. Chairman Berman recollected that the Members were actually shown the three colors. -22- ------ MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 17, 1988 Discussion re Canopies (Continued) Mr. Lawrence stated that there are two office building -.' canopies, and his client authorized him to say they would, change them to all white. For clarification, Mr. Jaeger-- said the applicant was requesting a change of materials for the awning. If the Board wanted to condition the change of materials upon the change in the awning over the office building to be solid white, they can make that recommenda- tion to the Commission. In the evening when the light reflects, Mrs. Lubin recalled that it seemed translucent, and she asked if these would show the same way as they do now. Mr. Lawrence replied that they would and he told of the experiments they did. Motion Mrs. Wische moved to condition the change of materials upon the change in the awning over the office building to be solid white, seconded by Vice Chairwoman Sheridan. Motion carried 7-0. Discussion re Signs (Continued) Mrs. Wische repeated her previous request to have the turquoise removed from the signs. Chairman Berman advised that the signs had been approved but he stated that she could request the applicant to make a change. Mr. Lawrence said he would pass it on to his client. Chairman Berman asked if the Board wanted to recommend to the City Commission that the signs be one and the same color. The Members answered affirmatively. Comments by City Commission, Mr. Lawrence, and Members Commissioner Olenik interjected that he thought the City Commission, a year or so ago, agreed with the recommendation of the Board to have three differen~ colors for the signs. It was his understanding that they could not change that vote, but he suggested the CAB might want to discuss it with the City Attorney. Commissioner Olenik asked whether the Board recommended three different colors for one sign or three different colored signs for the project. Mr. Jaeger did not think it was ever specified. Commissioner Olenik thought maybe the intent could be discussed. Mrs. Wische asked if they could not ask the owner to help them change the ruling about the three colors and then just -23- 1ft'! '''it. -of , MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 17, 1988 stay with one color. Commissioner Olenik replied that they could ask, but he did not believe the City could hold the owner or future tenants to that because they approved some- thing other than that. It would be a matter of how well they would want to comply with the recommendation. There was discussion. Mr. Lawrence added that he sits on a comparable Board, and he stated that there are a lot of ways to have things happen. He advised that the Board could legislate it or make their wishes known to the owner. Mr. Lawrence thought if the Board passed their wishes on to the owner, they would fall on receptive ears. Mayor Marchese told the Members he and Steve Rhodes went around the building and talked about the yellow canopy and the canopy over the walkways. The yellow was put there as an eye catcher but because it looks so terrible, Mayor Marchese said it was decided that they would put in some Palm trees to break up the yellow, and they will change the yellow to white. Mayor Marchese stated that they talked about the signs that are there now, and he suggested that they all be the same. Mr. Rhodes said he would take that into consideration. Mayor Marchese told the Members he will ask them officially to do that tomorrow night. There were other comments. Since the Board was not really specific, Mrs. Shuman wanted to recommend to the Commission that they be specific. The CAB voted for three colors for Sunshine Square but were not specific in saying one sign, one color. Three colors can be put into one sign. Commissioner Olenik felt that was a good point. There was discussion. (SEE CONTINUATION OF THIS MATTER ON PAGE 25.) OTHER Time of Meetings Mr. Jaeger asked the Members if they wished to meet at 6:00 P. M. like the Commission does. After discussion, it was the consensus that this would be decided at the next meeting. Chamber of Commerce Vice Chairwoman Sheridan reported that she was with Robert Walshak, Chairman of the Planning and zoning Board; Enrico Rossi, Chairman of the Code Enforcement Board~ and Mayor -24- \ ". , \ ., MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 17, 1988 Marchese at a workshop luncheon at the Chamber. She was asked what the CAB does, and afterwards there were questions and answers. One gentleman told Vice Chairwoman Sheridan he thought the CAB was too strict on some of the Codes. The Mayor agreed, and Vice Chairwoman Sheridan told the Chamber that the Board is beginning to lean a little bit. She felt the Board was doing a good job and said they like the shopping centers to be in harmony, etc. Later, someone told Vice Chairwoman Sheridan that the CAB is doing a good job. 11. Project Name: Cross Creek Centre (Continued) Mr. Steve Rhodes arrived at the meeting and Mrs. Wische wanted him to come before the Board. Mr. Wische explained that Mr. Rhodes came late and did not know what went on at the meeting. If the Board wanted to hear from Mr. Rhodes, Mr. Jaeger advised Mrs. Wische that it would be proper to call him forward. Mr. Rhodes confirmed that he is the developer of Cross Creek. Mrs. Wische asked if Mr. Rhodes would present to his tenants something different than what the Board had approved. The CAB had approved of three colors (turquoise, blue and green) for the signs, which has to stand, unless he would agree to one color. As an alternative, Mr. Jaeger suggested two colors. Mr. Rhodes supposed they were speaking of the awnings on the office in terms of white. Mrs. Wische referred to the signs above the yellow and said one is dark blue, which they approved, but they would like for the entire development to be one color. Mr. Rhodes said the three colors help them in some cases. There is not much room so a sign man can style them. Mr. Rhodes stated that if they could have blue and green or blue and turquoise, they wouldc$tick with that. They already decided just to have one color in the east building, and that will be just blue. In the west building, Mr. Rhodes asked for two colors so they ~ill have the oppor- tunity to break it up a little, or it will get too confusing. It was decided it should be blue and turquoise. Mrs. Wische said white on the cleaner's sign was an addi- tional color, and she asked if that could be changed. Mr. Rhodes said he would take a look at it, and he agreed that white was not one of the approved colors and will have to be changed. . -25- ~. :r ..~ .u:. ~ MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA OCTOBER 1 7 , When she was at the Chamber of Commerce, Vice Chairwoman Sheridan recalled the big question that "'came up was about the canopies at Cross Creek Centre. She thought a lot of~J people would be happy when they hear about the white. The Board expressed their appreciation for Mr. Rhodes' cooperation. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting properly adjourned at 9:30 P. M. Recording Secretary . (Two Tapes) -26-