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AGENDA DOCUMENTS LEGALI APPROVAL DOCUMENTS AGENDA DOCUMENTS MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 City Manager Parker Hill advised that the current Sign Code allows one freestanding pylon sign up to a height of 20', With a variance, the height could go to 25'. Commissioner Titcomb feels that people driving down 1-95 are not going to get off the road because they see a sign for CarMax, He finds the pylon sign on the site much more attractive than the one proposed for the ramp top and would favor allowing the one on the site. Commissioners Bradley and Tillman agreed. Commissioner Bradley feels the sign at the exit is too big and will take away from the beautifully-landscaped Park, He also feels that the marketing objectives will be achieved with the sign on the premises. Motion Commissioner Titcomb moved to approve Agenda Item VIII-B - Major Site Plan Modification rejecting staff Comment #49, amending Comment #53 to include the phone signage on the poles as necessary, removing staff Comment #60 and proposing that we grant the on-site pylon sign proposed and not the Gateway Boulevard exit sign, subject to all other staff and Planning and Development Board comments that are not in conflict with each other. Commissioner Bradley seconded the motion. Mr, Willard confirmed that this motion includes the deletion of Comment #61. Comment #70 would be revised to indicate that the applicant will have a pylon sign on the CarMax lot. The motion carried unanimously. Description: Shoppes of Woolbright PCD Anna S. Cottrell The Tradewinds Group North side of the intersection of Woolbright Road and SW 8 Street MAJOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATION - Request for approval to modify the approved sign program to include freestanding and wall signage for outparcels and main building tenant(s}. C. Project: Agent: Owner: Location: Anna Cottrell. aaent for the aDDlicant. advised that Mr. Morton was present. She explained that RaceTrac was developed as a parcel within the Shoppes of Woolbright. RaceTrac handled the development with their in-house attorney and development people. They were not aware that the sign package was not approved. They opened earlier this year and were issued a permit for one temporary sign on the site. They have never received permits for permanent signs. When the application for permit signs was submitted, RaceTrac was informed that those applications could not be processed without 35 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 an amendment to the overall sign program for the PCD. This request is to modify the master sign program for the Shoppes of Woolbright and an application for a waiver from the guidelines that limit the number of colors within the development. Staff and the Planning and Development Board have approved this request with conditions that were acceptable. There have been recommendations made by staff since that time. The applicant was very happy with the conditions recommended by the Planning and Development Board. However, staff modified Condition #25. "It is recommended that all monument signs be designed to match the monument sign proposed for RaceTrac and that the size of the monument signs be four feet high by eight feet long on top of a two foot high monument base." If this limitation applies to RaceTrac, it was not something that came out of the TRC or the Planning and Development Board. This would reduce the sign that has been proposed for RaceTrac by about 50%. What has been proposed for RaceTrac is a monument sign that totals 87.5 square feet. This is only approximately half of what the Code allows (160 square feet). This number is based on the frontage. The recommendation to reduce it to 32' on a 2' high base results in a 48 square foot total, and is not what is being requested. The applicant is requesting that the limitation to the size be deleted to allow the applicant to have a monument sign which is 87.5 square feet. This would amount to a sign that is 12.5' long by 5' high with a 2' high base. Michael Morton. Tradewinds Development. Boca Raton. Florida. explained that Race Trac had a monument sign, no pylon sign and other building signs they are trying to get processed. With regard to monument signs, there were discussions at the Planning and Development Board relative to Burger King submitting a request for a pylon sign on Woolbright Road. The Planning and Development Board and Planning and Zoning Department recommended it be placed on SW 8th Street. The applicant agreed to that recommendation. They further agreed that on the remaining two outparcels, they would be restricted to monument signs only, and they would be of the same size. These signs would be restricted to colors that would be in compliance with colors that are being approved unless they are national logos. The applicant agreed that the monument signs on Parcel C would be all of the same nature. On the site plan for Burger King, there is a pylon sign which will be moved along SW 8th Street on the southwest portion of their parcel. There are other drive-through signs and identification signs that go along with the Burger King approval. When Burger King came before the Commission, the signs, the colors for the signs and the elevations were all approved by this Commission. Ms. Cottrell continued that there are two outstanding issues. One outstanding issue was whether all signs in the future would be monument signs. The other outstanding issue is the recommendation for the reduction in the size of the proposed sign. 36 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz pointed out that the sign RaceTrac is currently using is very readable. and is beautifully landscaped. In her opinion, a big sign would detract from the site, Ms. Cottrell explained that the Code allows two signs up to 160 square feet based on the frontage. The proposed sign is far less than what the Code allows. but they feel it meets their objectives. Ms. Heyden explained that the reason the comment was added by staff was that when staff checked with the City Clerk's Office. they found this issue was left out of the Planning and Development Board recommendations. The problem the board had was trying to stay with what the City Commission had set forth in the last approval (Cracker Barrel). The City Commission was expecting that all future signs would be monument signs, Staff compared the RaceTrac submittal and the site plan for Burger King to see what eac~ applicant was requesting. Burger King wants either a 4' x 4' or 6' x 6' sign, Staff = recommending a 4' x 8' on top of a 2' high base. RaceTrac is requesting a 5' high x 12,: wide sign on a 2' base. Ms. Heyden explained that there has been a big problem with this application from the start. The sign Code does not allow a 120 square foot sign. It allows that size sign for shopping centers, but that does not mean every parcel within the shopping center is allowed that size sign. For commercial parcels, a 64 square foot sign is permitted. There is a separate section in the Code for planned districts which references a comparable zoning district. This provides latitude to look at what is appropriate. Staff feels the 4' x 8' sign on a 2' high base ties in what Burger King proposed. Ms. Cottrell said the applications for RaceTrac were submitted months ago. They went through TRC and the Planning and Development Board. There has never been a question about the size of the sign. The application that was submitted very clearly showed the dimensions of the sign. It has never been in question and there was never a comment that it exceeded the sign limitations. Some of the information on the rest of the application needs more details. Ms. Heyden said the reason this was never brought up before was because there was no sign program submitted. When the signage came in for RaceTrac, the entire package was not available and the Building Department did not comment on it. At the Planning and Development Board meeting, they wanted to remove the monument signs from the submittal because there was so much detail missing. Because Discount Auto is in submittal now, and Burger King is in permit, staff did not want the monument signs excluded. Ms. Cottrell said they would like the Commission to approve this request with the Planning and Development Board recommendations. Another item RaceTrac was concerned with 37 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 dealt with the timing of the submittal for the rectified master plan. There has been an issue of how that is being processed and the timing of it. This was previously Condition #20. It has been modified and resubmitted as Comment #23. The applicant would like clarification that this applies for permits for buildings, rather than permits for signs. Ms. Heyden said staff has no problem with that request. With regard to the rectified master plan, Mr. Morton said there was agreement that they would take it off for signs. However, the master plan was submitted and has been with the City for over six months. He feels the rectification of this plan is up to City staff, not the developer. The developer prepared a master plan based on the approval received after Cracker Barrel, and it has been in the City for six months. They received a comment that it needs to be rectified again because they submitted for the median openings for Burger King and Discount Auto. That has not been fully approved yet. If it has been approved, Mr. Morton can rectify the plan. The plan that is in the process shows the median opening but not the turn lanes. The rectification process cannot be held up waiting for the turn lanes. The plan can be rectified when they come in the next time. Building permits cannot be held up while City staff is holding up the master plan. Mr. Morton met with staff and reviewed this, and it is still not signed off by all of the departments. The rectification of this plan is not in Mr. Morton's control. Ms. Heyden advised that staff met with Mr. Morton yesterday to try to resolve this issue. Staff cannot move on the master plan until Mr. Morton goes back to the traffic consultant to have her revise the traffic study. There are eight comments from the Engineering Department that deal with traffic. Mr. Morton said this had nothing to do with the master plan being rectified. This is a new issue that was just raised over the past four weeks as to how the applicant is viewing a previously-approved median opening. The master plan that was approved when Cracker Barrel was approved is the plan that staff has had for six months. The applicant has not agreed on how to move forward on the traffic issue. Discussion is still necessary. However, the permits for the projects cannot be held up because the traffic engineer is still working on the median opening that the Commission approved a year ago. In looking at the master plan, there was a median opening approved when the Taco Bell came through. That median opening would allow traffic to come out of Taco Bell and go west across SW 8th through the median and go south to Woolbright Road. That median cut is on the plan and is approved. That was also on the site plan submitted for Burger King. The Burger King site plan is approved also. The only comment on the Burger King site plan says "the turn lanes will be by others." Comments made by Bill Hukill and agreed to by the Commission and the applicant were that if a northbound left turn lane was required, or a southbound left turn lane was required, Mr. Hukill would make the final decision of those turning movements. There was never any discussion about eliminating the median opening. When the submittal was made for permitting to build the median, an 38 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 issue came up as to not having the movement westbound through the median and then a left turn south. That was the reason for yesterday's meeting. Mr. Morton has been working with Burger King to encourage them to give up that movement and keep only a southbound left turn. They have not approved that yet, and may not agree to it because they have an approved site plan that shows that median opening. Ms. Heyden reiterated that rectification is in Mr. Morton's hands. In order to shorten this discussion, Ms. Heyden recommended that prior to issuance of any further building permits for the PCD with the exception of Burger King, this master plan must be rectified. Mr. Morton agreed to this recommendation. With regard to the median opening, Mr. Morton said it was approved on the site plan for Burger King as previously submitted, and now staff is trying to eliminate the movement that the opening was designed for. He is not certain Burger King will agree to that. This may have to come back for Commission review. Ms. Heyden pointed out that Comments 20 and 23 are now resolved, and Comment #31 will be deleted. With regard to Burger King, they brought their sign program and building colors before the Commission. The channel letters on the building are the national corporate logo which is acceptable in the Sign Code. The City Commission also approved the building elevations and one contains a box sign. The comments now say it is not permitted to have channel letters and cannister signs on the building. The channel lettering is their national logo. Ms. Heyden agreed that there wa~ no objection. The third issue involves the pylon sign. The applicant agrees to move it off Woolbright Road and onto SW 8th Street. Ms. Heyden advised that the City Manager requested that she copy the minutes from the meeting in 1990 when the pylon signs were approved. In 1990, the sign program showed two pylon signs. Only one was approved and that is the one that is on the site now. With this submittal, the applicant is requesting another pylon sign for Burger King. Approval of this request would result in three pylon signs. Based on the previous approval, staff recommends allowing only the existing pylon sign on Woolbright Road and that one monument sign be allowed for Burger King. Staff does not recommend allowing a freestanding sign and a pylon sign. Mayor Taylor explained to Mr. Morton his feelings that the City has been very accommodating on this project. He has heard remarks that this project has no unity, and that is because the tenants are coming in one at a time. The City has been very accommodating with regard to colors. Mayor Taylor feels if there is any chance of salvaging any unity, it might be in the signs. He supports the monument signs and is 39 _.......__._~-- .~,,~ ----------...--..-- "- MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 against more pylon signs. Monument signs are much more upscale. If monument signs are used. there should be some conformity of size. An 87 square foot sign is huge. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz feels the 4' x 8' sign on the 2' high base would be much more tasteful. Mr. Morton suggested that if the Sign Code is going to be followed, then a allowable square footage should be followed when doing monument signs. He pointed out that there was never any discussion, nor was there any agreement, that signs should be 4' x 8'. That is not what the Code says. This is a new comment which did not exist before yesterday at 3:30 p.m. Mr. Morton appreciates the Mayor's comments with respect to the pylon sign. He recalled that when Cracker Barrel came through, the Commission wanted to put monument signs on all three of the outparcels. Mr. Morton agreed to that request, and agreed to have them at the same size with their corporate logos. He will agree to that again. However, he feels we must be commensurate with what is allowable. RaceTrac has an allowable sign size, and 4' x 8' is not acceptable. Mr, Morton explained that this shopping center consists of two outparcels on the west side of SW 8th Street, and three outparcels on the east side along with Home Depot. The outparcel to the north is where the applicant was hoping to have Walmart. That could end up being another outparcel because Walmart has delayed moving forward. All of these outparcels should be able to have their identity which is a monument sign of a normal size. Mayor Taylor feels their identity is their logo, and they have been permitted to have their logos on their parcels. If RaceTrac is granted an 87 square foot sign, it will not be possible to deny that same request to the next tenant. A sign which is 6' high and 8' (the 2' high base included) long is huge. He pointed out to Mr. Morton that the City is permitting the logos and the colors. Ms. Heyden said the problem lies in the Sign Code because it does not address monument signs. Mr. Morton questioned whether the 4' x 8' number is arbitrary. Ms. Heyden responded negatively and explained that she took that figure from the Burger King monument sign and what was turned in for RaceTrac. Ms. Cottrell said RaceTrac is entitled to two signs, but they have only asked for one. Therefore. the impact will be less. Although Ms. Heyden's recommendation may be the average of what was submitted, it does not reflect the total sign size that was requested and is allowed. Commissioner Tillman feels this 87 square foot sign at ground level is clownish. RaceTrac is adjacent to the intersection. He feels it is ridiculous to manipulate the Sign Code to try 40 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 to put up a sign of this size at this location. Ms. Cottrell said there was never an attempt to manipulate these numbers. She explained that a great deal of this 87 square foot sign is not sign face. It includes the 2' base on which it sits. RaceTrac is not interested in a site that will have such a visible impact that it will look like something contrary to what they want to present to the community, Her comments with regard to the sign are based on what RaceTrac understood from the preliminary discussions and the discussions between the sign company and the building company regarding what they would be allowed to do under the Code. They submitted less than what they were told they would be allowed to do. Mayor Taylor reiterated that the Commission has agreed on Comments 20 and 23 and deleted Comment 31. The only remaining discussion deals with Comment #25. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz concurred with Condition #25 as written. Commissioner Titcomb is strongly in favor of the monument sign concept for the entire SIte, He would be willing to slightly increase the 4' x 8' dimensions, but would not be willing to support the proposed sign. Commissioners Tillman and Bradley agreed with these remarks. Mayor Taylor supported Comment #25 as written. Commissioner Titcomb suggested allowing 64 square feet which includes a 2' base, This will provide a 6' x 8' sign on top of a 2' base. The applicants accepted this change. Commissioner Bradley remarked that he would like to see the dimensions somewhere between the 32 square feet and 64 square feet. He suggested a 10' long x 4' high sign on a 2' base. Mr. Morton said this would not work because it is too wide. It would be out of proportion. Commissioner Bradley then recommended a 5' high x 8' long sign on a 2' base. This is an additional one foot over what is recommended. Ms. Cottrell said what would make more sense is the total square footage allowed rather than define the dimensions. The different logos for the tenants will fit in different ways. Mark Gesman. reDresentina Buraer Kina. said he is concerned about the Burger King sign because their logo is more vertical than horizontal. He requested that Burger King be considered when RaceTrac is being considered. 41 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMIS510t-. BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 Commissioner Titcomb said his concern is with the continuity of the signs. Logos can be scaled up and down as can typesetting. Consensus There was a consensus of the Commission to allow 56 square feet which would amount to a 5' high x 8' wide sign on a 2' base. With regard to the issue of pylon signs, Mr. Morton said this deals with the two shopping center pylon signs that were on Woolbright Road. When the plan was submitted in 1990, there were two pylon signs included. Both were the subject of variance requests at that time. The one in the southeast corner was to be 60' high. The other sign was slightly east of where the sign is currently located. At a meeting to discuss the height of these signs, the Commission voted to allow one pylon sign at its current height and denied the second pylon sign built at 60'. They did not preclude the second pylon sign. However, they did not grant the height that was requested. These two pylon signs have been on all of the master plans since 1990. In the minutes of one of the meetings, City Manager Parker Hill mentions the fact that we have two pylon signs. City Manager Parker Hill said her remark was that it was Mr. Morton's opinion that he had two pylon signs. Mr. Morton said this has been on the master plan for six years. It was prior to Cracker Barrel and Taco Bell. It was on the plan when Home Depot came in. The reason for the second Shoppes of Woolbright pylon sign is that Walmart would occupy the sign that is presently the Home Depot sign. It would be redone in dark blue. Home Depot would then build their sign on the location shown on the master plan. If Walmart or another major tenant comes into the center, they will be looking for that sign for their identification. Mr. Morton said he is eliminating the wing walls on the original plan and the pylon sign requested by Burger King. Comment #19 requires that a note be placed on the master plan that the approval of this sign is limited to location only. Mr. Morton agrees to this. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz questioned the relevancy of the 1990 plan to this evening's discussion. She thought that plan was no longer in effect. City Manager Parker Hill explained that Mr. Morton has never submitted the sign package. This is the reason why this issue has been dragging on. All of the discussions this evening should have taken place several years ago. Mr. Morton said the reason why he could not have submitted a full master sign plan that shows every parcel and every store is because they did not know what was going on the site. Without the tenants, it is ludicrous to come in with a sign program. There is no point in approving Walmart at this time if they are not going to be part of the center. He cannot 42 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 bring in signs tor a tenant that does not exist at this time. Mayor Taylor explained that he wants to know that there will be a monument sign on the parcel regardless of who will be occupying the space. In addition, he wants to know how many monument signs Mr. Morton wants in this center. City Manager Parker Hill said Mr. Morton has been picking and choosing when he wants to treat this as a unified shopping center and when he wants to choose this as individual parcels for development. This has been part of the problem. Mr. Morton disagreed with these remarks and said he has an approved site. He questioned whether he is being forced to build what is shown on the master plan. Mayor Taylor responded negatively, and reiterated that he wants to know how many signs Mr. Morton wants. On Parcel C which has Burger King, Discount Auto and another submission, Mr. Morton said there will be monument signs on each of these sites of the size that was just approved. They will contain the logos of the tenants. All signs will be in conformity. With regard to RaceTrac, they have agreed to a monument sign in the size designated this evening. With respect to the 14 acres where Walmart was anticipated, if they do come in, Mr. Morton will change the master sign plan and show a Walmart sign package. If T J Max and Service Merchandise come in, he will show the Commission a plan and try to get it approved at that time. At this time, he does not know what will be going on the 14 acres. The only other issue involved this evening is that there is an existing pylon sign on Woolbright Road which is shown on the master plan. Mr. Morton always believed he was entitled to that second pylon sign. He is not requesting identification other than location for that sign. Comment #19 indicates that two pylon signs are shown on the Home Depot property frontage on Woolbright Road. The Sign Code allows only one freestanding sign for Home Depot; therefore, pylon signs shall be limited to one. In Mr. Morton's opinion, that one is for Home Depot. The second sign will not be for Home Depot. Mr. Morton agrees to Comment #19 and wants to be certain that on the rectified plan the second pylon sign could be there in the future. Mayor Taylor said he would not agree to that, and the Commission has been clear that they do not want a second pylon sign on Woolbright. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz asked if the current pylon sign is on Home Depot property. Mr. Morton said it is located on common property between his property and Home Depot. Ms. Heyden said there is no common property in that location. That sign is located on Home Depot property. Mr. Morton said it is part of an REA and both parties have full 43 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19,1996 responsibility for the location and maintenance of that sign. Commissioner Titcomb reviewed the 1990 comments. With regard to taking the sign down to 3D', the minutes state that there would be one sign instead of two signs. Mr. Morton agreed because at the time, the second requested sign was 60'. Mr. Morton said he agreed there would not be a second 60' sign. In response to Mr. Morton's question, Commissioner Titcomb said the Commission is not taking away the second pylon sign. Mr. Morton's comments in 1990 took away the second sign. It now sounds like Mr. Morton is saying even though these comments were made, because the sign was existing on the drawing, he did not mean what he said. Mr, Morton felt the interpretation in the minutes was that he was withdrawing the request for a 60' high pylon sign in the second location. The way it is written, it appears that they took away the second sign in its entirety. He claims he did not do that. He only withdrew the request for the second pylon sign. Mayor Taylor pointed out that regardless of the interpretation, the Commission has made it clear that they do not want two pylon signs on the property. With regard to Comment #18, Burger King's letter style must be changed. Mr. Morton pointed out that Burger King is a nationally-registered logo. Therefore, this comment should be removed. Ms. Heyden explained that the City must receive the information on the trademark. Once that information is submitted, the comment will be eliminated. Mr. Morton said the information was already submitted and has been before this Commission at the last meeting. Attorney'Cherof asked Mr. Morton to provide a copy of the trademark and the location where it is registered. Attorney Cherof advised that Comments #18 and #31 are rejected. Comment #30 is included. Mr. Morton asked for clarification on Comment #13. Ms. Heyden advised that this issue is addressed in Comments 24 and 28. Comment #13 has been deleted. Motion Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz moved approval of the approved sign program to include freestanding and wall signage for outparcels and main building tenants subject to all staff comments including rejecting Comment #18, reworded Comment #23 with the exception of Burger King, Comment #25 showing the maximum square footage of 56 square feet (5' x 8' on a 2' base) and deleting Comment #31. Commissioner Titcomb seconded the motion which carried unanimously. 44 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 at their freestanding sign at their facility on Hypoluxo Road. Their freestanding sign will have yellow on it. Ms. Heyden added this comment since yellow for RaceTrac is only shown on their sign as a background, staff recommends that it be removed, and they postponed the issue of yellow on Discount Auto until it comes in. Staff is trying to make this yellow more orange in color. Discount Auto has yellow all around the large band. It does not make sense to allow RaceTrac to have yellow on the sign when they do not have yellow anywhere else on the building. Ms. Cottrell said RaceTrac feels the price reads better with yellow in the background. The changeable numbers are black. City Manager Parker Hill explained that the yellow does not have to be included. This is a decision to be made by the City Commission. The Commission does not have to accept the corporate colors. In addition, if the Commission approves yellow as the background for RaceTrac, they would not have to approve yellow for the entire project. Commissioner Titcomb would prefer not to see the yellow, but he does not have a problem with it if that is the consensus of the Commission. Since the Commission will be dealing with Discount Auto, he feels both situations would look better in white, red and blue. While the yellow and black sign age is historic with auto parts stores, it has a cheap look. White would have a more elegant look. Mr. Morton asked the Commissioners to decide what color they would want to see for the Discount Auto sign. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz said she would prefer white and black. Commissioner Titcomb said he would be inclined to reject Comments #4 and 5, and include Comment #6. Having yellow in a sign is a lot different from having an entire building yellow. Ms. Heyden said Comments #7 and #8 are new comments because the City Manager requested that the meeting minutes of the May 14, 1996 be included. When Cracker Barrel was approved, it was stated that royal blue would be removed from the existing pylon sign. Mr. Morton said that was agreed to if they rebuilt the pylon sign as a Walmart sign, Mr. Morton said he does not intend to change the pylon sign if he is not building a second one unless it gets old and must be replaced. What was agreed to was removing the royal blue from the wing walls. The applicant then removed the wing walls entirely; thereby reducing the signage that was allowed in this project. In response to Commissioner Titcomb's question, City Manager Parker Hill advised that the words "Shoppes of Woolbright" appear in royal blue. Commissioner Titcomb said he would be supportive of maintaining these comments. Mr. Morton questioned how Commissioner Titcomb could be supportive of making the 46 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 Description: Shoppes of Woolbright peD Anna S. Cottrell The Tradewinds Group North side of the intersection of Woolbright Road and SW 8 Street COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN APPEAL - Request to appeal the Community Design Plan to allow more than two colors (in addition to black and white) for proposed signage D. Project: Agent: Owner: Location: Anna Cottrell. aaent for the applicant. advised that this is a request to waive specific parts of the Community Design Plan that provides the maximum number of colors in a shopping center. They are requesting the addition of colors for RaceTrac, several of which will be replicated at Discount Auto. There was a question about the color blue. Mayor Taylor questioned whether Comment #9 addresses this issue. Ms. Cottrell responded affirmatively but explained that Conditions 5, 6, 7, and 8 are new. There were not before the Planning and Development Board. She explained that Conditions #1 and 2 were deleted. Condition #3 was replaced by Condition #9, and Condition #4 was deleted during the Planning and Development Board. This was acceptable to the applicant. However, staff is recommending four new conditions. Conditions 5,7, and 8 are related to the color blue. Ms. Cottrell explained that the blue around RaceTrac is only around the letter. From a distance, it appears to be black. RaceTrac has done a number of studies and determined that blue is a better background to distinguish the letters. Even though it appears black from a distance, the blue softens the lines between the background and the actual letters. There is no other dark blue being proposed. When Walmart was being proposed, the blue on RaceTrac matched the blue in Walmart. The only blue being requested is the blue around the letters. No other part of the sign will appear as dark blue. Mr. Morton has agreed that when the wall sign for the project changes, the sign will be changed to the dark blue. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz prefers the dark blue with the yellow rather than the black and yellow. There was agreement among the Commissioners to delete Comment #5. Comment #4 recommended changing the color yellow to a yellow shade of orange. This comment was deleted by the Planning and Development Board. It was their feeling that replacing the yellow with a shade of orange with a background of red would not be aesthetically pleasing and it will not blend. This now relates to a new condition which recommends changing the yellow to white. Ms. Cottrell explained that the yellow only appears in the background for the prices. Ms. Heyden advised that Discount Auto is now in the site plan process. She has looked 45 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 applicant change their sign. He recommended that the Commission not approve the dark blue tor RaceTrac since their sign is already in place and they are not changing it. Mr. Morton insisted that Comments #3.7, and 8 were replaced in Comment #9, and that was acceptable to the applicant. However, Ms. Heyden explained that Comments #7 and #8 were generated by Planning and Zoning after Comment #9. Mr. Morton stated they are not acceptable to the applicant. Ms. Cottrell said that approval of the dark blue around the signage is not adding another color. The only reason tor that color is to provide a distinction between the background and the lettering. The applicant is not asking that this color be an option tor any other signs. Mayor Taylor explained that he has a problem asking the applicant to change the existing signs. Attorney Cherot said the Woolbright sign can be considered a non-conforming, but legal sign. Motion Commissioner Titcomb moved to approve Agenda Item VIII-D - Community Design Plan Appeal for Shoppes of Woolbright sign program, rejecting P&Z Comments 3, 4, 5, and retaining Comments 6, rejecting Comments #7 and 8, and retaining Comment #9, subject to all other staff comments. Commissioner Bradley seconded the motion. Ms. Cottrell advised that Comment #2 was deleted by the Planning and Development Board. She questioned whether this deletion is included in the motion. Commissioner Titcomb agreed to reject Comment #2 in his motion. Commissioner Bradley was in agreement. The motion carried unanimously. IV. NEW BUSINESS: A. Approve Request for Proposal for Museum Exhibit Designers City Manager Parker Hill advised that this is a request to solicit designers tor the 1913 Schoolhouse Museum. We have no one on staff able to design what will be going into the various rooms. Commissioner Titcomb inquired if there was any indication of how much the range of proposals might come back in at for these services. From the audience, the response was anywhere from $10,000 to $15,000. 47 __..._.....,..,~_...;.... '.H~ _~. . "'....-......--' MINUTES REGULAR CITY COMMISSION BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 19, 1996 In response to Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz' question, $12,000 has already been included in the budget for this project. Motion Commissioner Titcomb moved to approve the RFP request for Museum Exhibit Designers on the Old School project. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz seconded the motion which carried unanimously. B. Florida Telecommunications Taxation Task Force At a conference last week, Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz became concerned about the ramifications of the possible loss of franchise fees. We have been urged to contact our Legislators to educate them on this issue and let them know of our opposition to any proposal that preempts our local taxing authority. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz feels this lobbying procedure should begin immediately because this issue could come before the Legislature in January. She recommends asking our Legislators to attend the meeting to express our opposition. City Manager Parker Hill advised that the Legislative Delegation will be holding their annual hearings during the first week in December. Each city and special district has time on the agenda to bring up any items before the entire Legislative Delegation. She feels this will be a good time to reach all of them. \'~ayor Taylor agreed and recommended that a letter to the Legislative Delegation be :Jrepared stating our opposition. C, Bringing Florida A&M Band to Black Awareness Function Commissioner Tillman said he discussed this issue with City Manager Parker Hill, Wilfred Hawkins and Ms. Ramy. Bringing the band here would require a guarantee. Delray Beach did this last year and they made money. They would be available for the parade and a show at Santaluces High School. This show would generate the funds to satisfy the guarantee. Commissioner Tillman feels this will add a "punch" that has been missing in the past and will increase participation from other organizations. Mr. Hawkins said one of the things that we would do is have the parade during the last week in January. We have contacted some of the high schools and this would be a better date for them. They would be asked to compete for trophies. There was a marching festival in Riviera Beach last year when this band came to the County and it was very successful. This is an attraction and a fund raiser. The gate price is usually $8 for children and $10 for adults. The guarantee is $25,000. 48 . 6- -~UJ.d s-II (p (77 .. cite{ ~.b cf' l ~twl CO' .Jc \LL t }'w.~l .') _CL'lftL or J \! (Uiv-LXui-1.tli Gl11'd ) t; l"O DEVELOPMENT ORDER L' ('. n l') 'U.~,.:." (f OF THE .---: 'Y.,u;' I CITY COMMISSION OF THE ~', .7\Zi..; 7\{l ) ~ ~...aJP.1 CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FLORIDA ""-,.t " ~ I '----'G i]~ -:::' (I . CAe ~t? ~t ' \, e(!: ~~/p , ._~-,pj-:;..~~,:~.~ rr~.1 iJ_:1Ui !1.JLl~~ i: I ~ l i ~ ' J " -Y7 .. ,1 1: ,1 ; I '. ~ "'J ,6 " ' . ~ ~) ; "~ j " " . '1 '.'~') ~ ~ l , '_'~~'OM"'""""""'" ~".~'-"'--""" '1 FLj.'::':;~"j'~!G i\~'jtl ! ~:_'. .'\; ~\~ \Y-PT. ~~..,,,-",,,....,,.,r~:..;<"""""-""""" '-"-'''''''~'''.,~""..,.~......,..,.. APPLICANT: Michael Morton. Tradewinds Group APPLICANT'S AGENT: Anna Cotrell. Aaent for the Tradewinds . Inc. , DATE OF HEARING BEFORE CITY COMMISSION: November 19. 1996 TYPE OF RELIEF SOUGHT: Maior Site Plan Modification. ReQuestina approval to modify the approved sian proaram. In addition to the freestandina sians that have alreadv been approved. additional sianaae is reQuested. more specificallv. new freestandina (monuments) and wall sianaae for outparcels and main buildina tenant(s). LOCATION OF PROPERTY: Southeast and southwest corners of the intersection of S. W. 8th Street and Woolbriaht Road. DRAWING(S): SEE EXHIBIT "B" ATTACHED HERETO. THIS MATTER came on to be heard before the City Commission of the City of Boynton Beach, Florida on the date of hearing stated above. The City Commission having considered the relief sought by the applicant and heard testimony from the applicant, members of city administrative staff and the public finds as follows: 1. Application for the relief sought was made by the Applicant in a manner consistent with the requirements of the City's Land Development Regulations. 2. The Applit'~raI ~AS HAS NOT established by substantial competent evidence a basis for the relief requested. 3. The conditions for development requested by the Applicant, administrative staff, or suggested by the public and supported by substantial competent evidence are as set forth on Exhibit "C" with the notation "Included". 4. 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I'I.I( 11'1.11- FIRE - , N()NF POLICE r - ,- DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT Comments: 1, Reference sign locations by dimension to property lines. Chap,21, Art,l, Sec,5B / & C, pg, 21-1. 2, Designate tenants for all ground signs, Chap,21, Art.I, Sec,5K, pg.21-3, 3. Provide justification for proposing more than one pylon sign for Home Depot. ~ Chap.21, Art.IV, Sec.3B, pg,21-17. 4, Provide justification for proposing additional ground signs on Parcel 3. Chap,21, ~ Art. IV, Sec.3G, pg.21-17. 5, Walmart and Discount Auto signs are limited to 64 sq. ft, Chap.21, Art. IV, /' Sec,2B, pg,21-16. 6. Reader board for Burger King must be part of ground sign subject to code / specified maximum size, Chap.21, Art,IV, Sec,2D, pg.21-16. 7. Show colors, lettering types, logos. Chap.9, Sec,10l, pg.9-5. 8. RaceTrac wall sign is limited to code specified maximum size, Chap.21, Art.lV, -:7 ~'::lf-?r. nn ?1_1 ~ PARKS AND RECREATION , N()NF FORESTER/ENVI RONMENT ALlST Comments: 9, The applicant shall identify any existing trees which may be affected by the / nf th... ",inn", I DEPARTMENTS I INCLUDE I REJECT I PLANNING AND ZONING Comments: 10. Provide a clear identification system correlating the table of contents with the ./ submitted sheets. All cross-references included in the project shall be made in reference to the sheet code as identified in the table of content. / 11. On the site plan, sheet 2 of 9, distinguish locations of existing and proposed / signs. 12. No business identification (sign copy) was submitted for the monument sign proposed for the northernmost portion of Parcel "C". Provide a note on the master plan that the approval of this sign is limited to location only. A / subsequent submittal of the sign copy shall meet the conditions (regarding color and helvetica letter style) of this sign program approval, otherwise a future revised sign program (Major Site Plan Modification) will have to be submitted for review and approval by the City Commission. 13. On sheet 5 of 9, specifications for typical store signs are laid out. Clarify in ~ which locations these typical store signs are to apply. 14. All signs proposed must meet the minimum setback requirements of 10 feet. On the master plan include all required setbacks. Also, provide colored elevation / drawings of the missing sign elevations for Burger King and Discount Auto at the Planning and Development Board meeting with color samples of all materials to be used in manufacturing and constructing the signs. 15. City's LDR, Chapter 9 - Community Design Plan allows only two (2) colors, (except for white and black) to be used for signs in shopping centers. On the site plan, sheet 2 of 9 include a tabular summary of all colors proposed for the ~ signage in this development. Mark with an asterisk colors already approved by the City Commission. 16. If colored elevations of all proposed signs, as required by the LDR, Chapter 4, Section D are not submitted for the Planning and Development Board meeting, / it is recommended that the elevations go back before the Commission as a future site plan approval, prior to application for permit. 17. Chapter 9 of the LDR, Community Design Plan, Section 10.1.2 requires that a / single sign style shall be used for wall signage on all buildings on the site signs are predominately channel. Therefore comply with this requirement of the city code or file an application for a Community Design Plan appeal from this code provision. 18. Chapter 9 of the LDR, Community Design Plan, Section 10.1.8 allows only one lettering style, in addition to the lettering styles of the nationally registered copy, to be used by all tenants/outparcel owners in the PCD. Signs are currently ~ helvetica. Comply with this requirement of the city code or file an application for a Community Design Plan appeal from this code provision. (Burger King's letter style must be changed. No letter style information was submitted for the remainina uses.) Page 3 Shoppes of Woolbright PCD - Sign Program File No. MSPM 96-005 DEPARTMENTS INCLUDE REJECT 19. For the Home Depot property, two pylon signs are shown along the frontage of Woolbright Road, approximately 220 feet apart. The sign code allows only one freestanding sign for Home Depot, on the Home Depot property, therefore pylon signs shall be limited to one. No business identification (sign copy) was / submitted for the easternmost sign. Provide a note on the master plan that the approval of this sign is limited to location only. 20. Submit a rectified master plan for the Shoppes of Woolbright PCD showing compliance with the conditions of all previous approvals, prior to permits being ~ issued for signage approved with this request. 21. All monument signs shall provide appropriate, unobstructed cross-visibility at all points of access as described in LDR, Chapter 7.5, Article II, Section 5.H. /' 22. Two freestanding (one pylon and one monument) signs are proposed on the Burger King property. The sign code allows only one freestanding sign for Burger King. Therefore, freestanding signs shall be limited to one. Since / there are pylon signs existing and proposed along Woolbright Road, it is recommended that Burger King's sign be located along S.W. 8th Street and not Woolbright Road to minimize the number of signs in the short distance between S.W. 8th and 1-95 alonQ WoolbriQht Road. 23. Submit a rectified master plan for the Shoppes of Woolbright PCD, showing ~ compliance with the conditions of all previous approvals, prior to issuance of any further buildinQ permits within the PCD. 24. Since at this time it is unknown whl;lther the remainder of the PCD will be developed as one large commercial use or multiple stores within a shopping center arrangement, a revised sign program application shall be submitted in the / future simultaneously with a site plan application for the remainder of the PCD, to provide details for store wall signage (in-line tenants), if this type of use is proposed in the future. 25. It is recommended that all monument signs (including RaceTrac, Burger King, ~ Discount Auto and future parcel tenants) be designed to match the monument sign proposed for RaceTrac and that the size of monument signs be four feet hinh hv pinht on ton of ~.. - &- .. hinh h~~p ADDITIONAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD CONDITIONS 26. Delete #3. 27. Delete #4. 28. Delete #13. 29. Delete #15. DENIED 5. This Order shall take effect immediately upon issuance by the City Clerk. 6. All further development on the property shall be made in accordance with the terms and conditions of this order. 7. Other: DATED: November 19, 1996 I / -~~~- -o/'~<; City lerk . ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS FROM COMMISSION MEETING 1. Submit a rectified master plan for the Shoppes of Woolbriaht PCD. showina compliance with the conditions of all previous approvals, prior to issuance of any further buildina permits within the PCD, excludina the buildina permit for Buraer Kina. 2. All monument sians (includina RaceTrac, Buraer Kina, Discount Auto and future parcel tenants be desianed to match the monument sian proposed for RaceTrac and that the size of monument sians be 56 SQuare feet with a maximum heiaht of 5 feet and a maximum width of 8 feet on top of a two foot hiah base. MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 · The pylon sign on the southeast corner of the site be deleted if the 60 foot or so sign on 1-95 is approved by the City Commission. · Provide concrete wheel stops in the three rows of the employee parking area. Mr. Rosenstock seconded the motion. Vice Chairman Golden stated that he voted against the use approval and is going to vote against the site plan to be consistent. With regard to the on-site monument sign that is going to be redesigned, Mr. Willard advised that Comment 49 is concerned with the sign area. He proposed 10 leave the sign area the same size. Mr. Aguila had no objection as long as the size of the sign does no' exceed the Code requirement. The motion carried 6-1. Vice Chairman Golden cast the dissenting vote. 3. Project: Agent: Owner: Location: Description: Shoppes of Woolbright PCD Anna S. Cottrell The Tradewinds Group North side of the intersection of Woolbright Road and S.W. 8th Street Request for approval to modify the approved sign program to include freestanding and wall signage for outparcels and main building tenant(s). Ms. Cottrell and Michael Morton, the property owner, were present. Ms. Cottrell said her firm had done some work for RaceTrac regarding the application for site plan approval extension. RaceTrac was approved a number of years ago and just got moving on this site a year and a half ago. They had received their site plan approval, submitted for permits, and only after submitting for permits for their signs were they made aware that the signs had never been approved as part of their site plan application package. They have not been issued permits for signs for the RaceTrac facility. One small, freestanding sign exists, but it is temporary and it will not be in place once the permit signs are approved. In addition, there are no wall signs on the building. All of the signage at RaceTrac is temporary. They were given a temporary permit for the freestanding sign so that they could display their prices. When the application for the sign package was put together, the Building Department commented that in order to receive approval for the signs, the applicant would have to 27 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 modify the overall sign program for the Shoppes of Woolbright Place. In the meantime, the developer has secured contracts with several other tenants at that site. This application is a modification to the master sign age program for the PCD and includes those new tenants in the overall package. This is an attempt to present a sign program that indicates the existing approvals, what is proposed for RaceTrac, and what is proposed for future tenants who have been contracted to develop on these sites. The sign program that has been submitted for RaceTrac is consistent with the development that already exists with respect to colors and architectural appearance. In addition, there is a request to approve the signs for Discount Auto and Burger King. The application includes Wal-Mart signs; however, that contract has not been executed. Therefore, the Wal-Mart signs will be eliminated. In addition to the request for the master sign program modification, the applicant made a request for a waiver of the Community Design Plan requirement that limits the number of colors that can be at the site. Staff has indicated that the applicant is inconsistent with Community Design Plan guidelines regarding the style of the signs and the style of the lettering. It was Ms. Cottrell's understanding that it was agreed at the TRC meeting that the applicant would not be required to submit applications for waivers for those two items. She felt the applicant is consistent with the requirements for a consistent lettering style which exempts nationally registered copy. She advised that all the signs are nationally registered copy, and the cabinet style that has been selected was approved with the Home Depot. Home Depot has two cabinet styles--the cabinet and the channel letters. All of the signs indicate channel letters. She felt the applicant is consistent with what has already been approved. For this reason, only one waiver request was submitted. Mr. Rosenstock stated that Mr. Morton presents something different every time he appears before the Board. He would like to see an overall concept of what these signs are going to look like. Ms. Cottrell said this application attempts to do just that. Part of this project is subject to separate settlement agreements of litigation. She said the overall concept of this development has changed from what was originally presented. Mr. Rosenstock asked Mr. Morton if he would be willing to put into writing that there will be no overall signage along Woolbright Road to cover all the tenants to the north. Mr. Morton said this project is not an ordinary shopping center like the one on Hypoluxo Road and Congress Avenue. This is a shopping center of box type users and small outparcels. RaceTrac is a national user. It has its own identity and owns it own parcel and, therefore, is looking for its sign identification. Cracker Barrell is a national chain and has its own identity. Burger King is a chain and has adjusted their building design to meet the criteria of some of the comments that' I/ere presented earlier. It is a very nicely designed building 28 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 and very acceptable. It is different that RaceTrac and Cracker Barrell. Home Depot has been there since 1990. It is a big box. It is the same type of Home Depot that is built in over a thousand locations throughout the country. If Wal-Mart would have come here, it would have been a typical Wal-Mart store. All of these parcels are not part of a cohesive shopping center as was originally, generically planned. The 1986 master plan did not get implemented and approved until 1990. It was a generic plan and at that time, if all those buildings were interconnected, there would be a cohesive sign program. However, this is a series of outparcels. Remaining on this parcel is an outparcel to the north of Discount Auto. Mr. Morton hopes to present a plan for this parcel in the next two weeks. The only thing left in the shopping center would be the 14 1/2 acres that Wal-Mart was supposed to occupy. Chairman Dube referred to the monument and pylon signs on page 4 and said those are basically all the signs, with the exception of the unknown tenant who is probably going to want a sign. Mr. Morton said the only signs that are not on the plan would be a sign that would be on the wall of the third outparcel and the signs that will be on the wall of the 14 1/2 acre site that Wal-Mart was supposed to occupy. Chairman Dube asked if there is going to be one big sign with all the tenants on it. Mr. Morton said there will not be a massive sign for every tenant in this project. Mr. Aguila asked if Mr. Morton is going to submit a typical design of the shape, stature, and design elements of all the different pylon signs so that there is at least some continuity in the design. Mr. Morton stated that the continuity does not exists because it is a series of outparcels. On the west side of 8th Street there are two outparcels (RaceTrac and Cracker Barrell). RaceTrac is proposing to put in a sign on the fascia of the enclosure. Their package is a little different and stands off to the side. RaceTrac and Cracker Barrell are on one side of the street and are apart from this center. Even though a common property owner developed all of this property, 8th Street bifurcated this property and separated RaceTrac and Cracker Barrell to one side. Mr. Morton said Burger King has asked for a pylon sign. Discount Auto is putting up a monument sign, not a pylon sign. He felt we should try to keep the continuity with regard to the size of these signs. He felt the third parcel in that outparcel should also maintain continuity with regard to the size of the signs. Tonight, he was trying to establish the necessity for more than two colors, in addition to the black and white, so that the tenants can have their corporate logos. RaceTrac is using colors that are going to be used on the other side of the street as well. Therefore, there will be some commonality. The only extra color that RaceTrac wants is grey in their sign, which matches their building. The red and yellow colors will be used on the other side of the street. The orange has been on Home 29 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 Depot, and there is some orange in "the Burger King sign. Discount Auto has red and yellow. Mr. Morton promised to keep the color continuity when the third parcel is done. Vice Chairman Golden thought Discount Auto's typical colors are were grey and yellow. Mr. Morton said they typically have a yellow background with red letters and a grey building. The grey building will be the same color as RaceTrac. Ms. Cottrell said the red, yellow and grey colors do not have the exact manufacturer's specifications, but they are very close. Mr. Rosenstock stated that Mr. Morton has not presented some kind of diagram and complete description of all the signs he is requesting the Board to aPProve this evening. Mr. Morton said the ink is still wet on the Burger King approval and they are still trying to finalize getting all their ducks in a row to get their permits pulled. The plans for Discount Auto were submitted to the Planning Department this morning. He would be happy if the Board made a decision on RaceTrac and Burger King, and he will return with Discount Auto. Mr. Aguila accepted the fact that all the tenants are going to want their corporate signs. However, he asked that there be some continuity with the design of the cabinets that house the different corporate images. Mr. Morton agreed with Mr. Aguila. He said the Discount Auto monument sign should be of the same cabinet size that will be approved for Burger King. Ms. Cottrell said staff requested that the yellow on RaceTrac be changed to an orange yellow color. She felt the orange is not going to be compatible with the red that is in the rest of the signs. Item 7.8.4 Mr. Morton agreed to delete the color green, as requested in Comment 1. However, he requested that Comment 2 be deleted and that RaceTrac be allowed to keep the grey in their sign. Ms. Cottrell said the only grey is in the cabinet for the monument sign. The reason grey was selected was because it matches the building. Staff is recommending that it be changed to white. She felt the white would stand out more. Mr. Morton added that the Discount Auto building is going to be grey to match the RaceTrac building. Ms. Cottrell requested that Comment 3 be deleted. She advised that the dark blue selected for RaceTrac was to match Wal-Mart. The only dark blue being proposed is around the channel letters. It is a better color visually to contrast the channel letters from 30 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 the background of the canopy and the building. Royal blue was originally approved for the overall sign concept for the shopping center. It exists above the Home Depot sign on the pylon, and may be replaced in the future. Mr. Morton stated that if he changes the pylon sign in the future, he will use dark blue instead of royal blue. Mr. Morton was agreeable to having the locations of the signs approved for Discount Auto, but tabling the size and colors of Discount Auto and the third outparcel. Ms. Heyden advised that this Board does not have the ability to do that. In addition, she opposed doing this. She said the color yellow is going to be key to Discount Auto and it is better for them to know it now while the site plan is in process. Motion Chairman Dube passed the gavel to Vice Chairman Golden and moved to approve the Community Design Plan appeal for Shoppes of Woolbright revised sign program, subject to staff comments with the following modification: Delete Comments 2 and 4, and change Comment 3 to dark blue, leaving the royal blue that is on the Home Depot sign. The royal blue on the Home Depot sign is to be changed to dark blue if it is ever repainted. Mr. Aguila seconded the motion, which carried 6-1. Mr. Rosenstock cast the dissenting vote. Item 7.8.3 Mr. Morton agreed to Comment 2, except with regard to the sign that has no tenant. He said Comment 3 should be eliminated. When the master plan was originally approved, there were two pylons signs on Woolbright Road on the plan. With regard to Comment 4, he said the Burger King site plan has various sign components that are shown on the plan. Ms. Heyden advised that Comments 3 and 4 can be eliminated because staff has made a similar comment that is more specific. Mr. Morton requested that Comment 13 be deleted because there are no other stores. Therefore, this comment is not applicable at this time. Ms. Cottrell advised that Comment 17 relates to the Community Design Plan and a single sign style. Originally, two (channel and cabinet) were approved. Ms. Heyden stated that the original approval allowed them to use either on one building. Ms. Cottrell requested permission to use channel letters only, and asked if the applicant is required to file an application for a Community Design Plan appeal to use more than one style sign on the 31 :\HNUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 wall signs. Chairman Dube said the applicant would have to do that in the future if he wants to use something other than the channel letters. Chairman Dube said Burger King does not have to change its letters. Therefore, Comment 18 can be deleted. Ms. Heyden stated that it was not clear to staff whether Burger King's letter style was actually a trademark. Mr. Morton will provide verification of that. With regard to Comment 19, Mr. Morton stated that two signs have been approved as part of the original plan. Ms. Heyden said she has documentation showing that only one was approved. Mr. Morton said one was approved to construct; however, two have been on the master plan since 1990. Ms. Heyden said when the Wal-Mart or Gther use comes in, it can place its sign on the existing Home Depot sign. Right now that sign says "Shoppes of Woolbright" in royal blue with Home Depot underneath it, and there is space for another tenant. She did not feel there is a need for another freestanding sign along Woolbright Road. Chairman Dube advised that Comment 19 will have to be resolved before the City Commission meeting. Ms. Cottrell asked for clarification of Comment 20. She advised that staff has not been able to predict when the master plan will be approved. The master plan is being held up by DOT and other reviewing agencies. Ms. Heyden revised this comment to read that this can be postponed to plat approval for Parcel 2. Mr. Haag added that it is hinging on the median cut leading into Burger King. With regard to Comment 22, Mr. Morton agreed to move the Burger King sign from Woolbright Road to 8th Street. Therefore, there will only be two pylon signs on Woolbright Road. Motion Vice Chairman Golden moved to recommend approval of the major site plan modification for the Shoppes of Woolbright request for approval to modify the approved sign program to include freestanding and wall signage for outparcels and main building tenants, subject to staff comments with the following exceptions: Delete Comments 3, 4, 13, and 15, and reword Comment 20 to postpone to platting of Discount Auto. Mr. Morton said he does not have any control over what staff does with his plan. Ms. Heyden advised that staff just received the median plans 30 days ago. She will work this out with the applicant. 32 MINUTES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA NOVEMBER 12, 1996 Mr. Aguila seconded the motion, which carried 6-1. Mr. Rosenstock cast the dissenting vote. Community Design Plan Appeal Description: Shoppes of Woolbright. Revised Sign Program Anna Cottrell The Tradewinds Group · North side of the intersection of Woolbright Road and S.W. 8th Street Request to appeal the Community Design Plan to allow more than two colors (in addition to black and white) for proposed signage. 4. Project: Agent: Owner: Location: See discussion under Item 7.8.3. Discussion (continued from last meeting) None. 5. Proposed changes to all of the land Development Regulations Due to the late hour, this item was not addressed. 8. COMMENTS BY MEMBERS For the record, Chairman Dube said earlier in the meeting, he requested that Mr. Elders go home because he was ill. 9. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the board, the meeting was adjourned at 12:10 a.m. //;;1./ ~ ~ j'!:;// /{U- - ~-- Eve'"'Eubanks Recording Secretary ( Five Tapes) 33 ._"-~-~-------_._---_.,- '5",\ ~....... PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT MEMORANDUM NO. 96-611 Agenda Memorandum for November 19, 1996 City Commission Meeting TO: FROM: Carrie Parker Hill City Manager Tambri J. Heyden, AICP f!}.J Planning and Zoning Director DATE: November 14,1996 SUBJECT: Shoppes of Woolbright PCD - MSPM 96-005 Major Site Plan Modification Please place the above-referenced item on the November 19, 1996 City Commission agenda under Development Plans. DESCRIPTION: Anna Cottrell, agent for The Tradewinds Group, property owner of the unbuilt parcels within the Shoppes of Woolbright PCD, located on the north side of S.W. 8th Street and Woolbright Road, is requesting approval to modify the approved sign program. In addition to the freestanding signs that have already been approved, additional signage is requested, more specifically, new freestanding (monuments) and wall signage for outparcels and main building tenant(s). For further details pertaining to this request, please see attached Planning and Zoning Department Memorandum No. 96-594. RECOMMENDATION: The Planning and Development Board, with a 6-1 vote, recommends approval subject to all staff comments in Exhibit "c" - Conditions of Approval, with the deletion of comments 3, 4, 13 and 15. Comments 3 and 4 regard providing justification for proposing additional signs which is not really a type of condition of approval. Furthermore, the issue is addressed in more detail in the Planning and Zoning Department comments. Comment 13 pertains to a conflict that was on the drawings with respect to store signs within the shopping center. Staff has generated a new comment 24 to replace this comment and to better deal with the uncertainty of how the remainder of the PCD will be built out. Comment 15 pertains to information requested of the applicant that staff ended up compiling for the applicant. In addition to new comment 24, new comment 23 and 25 have also been added. Com'ment 23 re-evaluates and would replace, original staff comment 20 and Planning and Development Board Comment 31. It proposes a more reasonable, but firm, time by which a rectified master plan must be submitted. Mr. Morton stated at the Planning and Development Board meeting that he turned in the revised master plan in February and that it would be unfair to hold up sign permits when staff has held up the master plan sign-off. The last master plan was submitted on 5/14/96 and four departments have yet to sign off either because of unresolved S.W. 8th Street turn lane/median cut issues or they have not reviewed the plan. I have written another reminder memorandum to the department that has not reviewed the plan and I have set up a meeting Monday, November 18th with Mr. Morton, his traffic consultant and the three departments concerned with S.W. 8th Street to more quickly bring this to closure. Therefore, I believe prior to issuance of any further building permits is a reasonable time to rectify the master plan. - ~----_.- ._----~._---_.- Page 2 Shoppes of Woolbight PCD File No. MSPM 96-005 New comment 25 serves to fill in the monument design detail gaps of the submittal by recommending a certain monument sign size and design as a standard for all the monument signs. Regarding the larger issue of allowing additional freestanding signs along Woolbright Road (Comment #19), Mr. Morton contends that in 1990 he was approved for two pylon signs on the Home Depot property along Woolbright Road. Staff research (see attached approval letter and meeting minutes) reveals that a sign variance was approved for only one sign along Woolbright Road, which is now existing. Therefore, comment 19 is appropriate. Lastly, as a point of information, the colored sign elevations referenced in comment 14 for Burger King and Discount Auto have not yet been submitted. T JH:bme Attachments xc: Central File c; \ccmemos \WOOL 1119 .wpd PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT MEMORANDUM NO. 96-441 TO: Carrie Parker Hill City Manager FROM: 6wdn~~ Tambri J. Heyden, AICP ~ 1J1Y Planning and Zoning Director DA TE: November 13, 1996 SUBJECT: Copies of Development Plans of Current Project Scheduled for Review by the City Commission at the November 19 1996 City Commission Meeting Please find attached five (5) sets of plans for the following current development projects: Rezoning East Ridge REIN 96-002 Conditional Use Approval Bellsouth Mobility COUS 96-005 ITVTower CO US 96-006 New Site Plan Carmax at Quantum Park PID NWSP 96-010 Major Site Plan Modification - Quantum Park (peripheral greenbelt and modified PID sign program) MSPM 96-007 Shoppes of Woolbright PCD MSPM 96-005 Note: Please return the plans/documents to the Planning and Zoning Department following the meeting. If I can be of further assistance, please contact me. T JH:bme Attachments cc: Central File Subject File d:\share\corres\citymgr\tran1119. wpd l. 7.B.3 MAJOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATION SHOPPES OF WOOLBRIGHT PCD I PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT MEMORANDUM #96-594 SITE PLAN REVIEW STAFF REPORT FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION November 6,1996 DESCRIPTION OF PROJECT: Project Name: Shop pes of Woolbright PCD - Sign Program Applicant: Michael Morton, Tradewinds Group Agent: Anna S. Cottrell, Basehart & Cottrell, Inc. Location: Southeast and southwest corners of the intersection of S.W. 8th Street and Woolbright Road. File No.: MSPM 96-005 Land Use Plan Designation: Local Retail Commercial (LRC) Zoning Desig nation: Planned Commercial District (PCD) Type of Use: modified PCD sign program Number of Units: N/A Square Footage: Site Area: N/A Building Area: N/A Surrounding land uses and zoning: (see Exhibit "A" -location map) North: Woolbright Place PUD South: Right-of-way of Woolbright Road and farther south is vacant land, zoned Community Commercial, C-3 East: SCL Railroad right-of-way and farther east is undeveloped land zoned (Light Industrial), M-1 West: Lake Worth Drainage District Canal (E-4) and farther west is Leisureville (a single-family development), zoned R-1AA Existing Site Characteristics: This request is for modification of the existing sign program for the ~ Page 2 Memorandum # 95-594 Shoppes of Woolbright PCD - Sign Program MSPM 96-005 Shoppes of Woolbright PCD. The subject PCD is partially developed. Existing uses conform to the approved sign program with the exception of Cracker Barrel (evaluated independently by the Commission) and RaceTrac. RaceTrac's signs have not ;y;et been approved, do not meet the current sign program and are pending approval of this modified sign program, to address the signs of not only RaceTrac, but also Burger King and two anticipated uses; Discount Auto and Walmart. Proposed Development: The sign program modification request includes: . Two, 20 feet high pylon signs (for Walmart and Burger King) and one, 30 feet high pylon sign (an additional one for Home Depot); . Four monument signs (one for RaceTrac, Discount Auto Parts, Burger King, and one for an unspecified tenant); . wall and building signs for Walmart, RaceTrac, Discount Auto Parts and Burger King; . readerboard and directional signs for Burger King; (see Exhibits "B" - proposed signage). The signs already approved are: . three pylon signs (one for the Shoppes of Woolbright which also advertises Home Depot, and two signs for Cracker Barrel) . wall signs for Home Depot and Cracker Barrel. Concurrency: Traffic - The request does not affect traffic concurrency. Drainage - The request does not affect drainage. Driveways: There are no driveways included with the subject request. Parking Facility: There are no parking facilities included with the subject request. Landscaping: The request does not trigger specific landscaping requirements. Building and Site Regulations: There are no buildings included with the subject request. Community Design Plan: Proposed signs violate the community design plan standards with respect to: number of colors, number of sign styles and number of lettering styles. The petitioner has submitted a concurrent appeal application for relief from number of colors only. 3 Page 3 Memorandum # 95-594 Shoppes of Woolbright PCD - Sign Program MSPM 96-005 At this time, the following partial wall sign information is available: Tenant Home Depot Cracker Barrel Burger King RaceTrac Sign Style Cabinet & Channel Cabinet Channel Channel Letter Style Helvetica Helvetica Non-helvetica Non-helvetica, but exempt because a logo Signage: The proposed signs do not comply with the Sign Code with respect to the maximum allowable sign area. For details with respect to these requirements, please refer to staff comments included in Exhibit "C" - Conditions of Approval, RECOMMENDA liON: The Planning and Zoning Department recommends approval of this site plan request, subject to the comments included in Exhibit "C" - Conditions of Approval. The Technical Review Committee (TRC) recommends that the deficiencies identified in this exhibit be corrected prior to the plans being submitted for building permit. JL:dim xc: Central File D:\SHARE\WP\PROJECTS\SHPSWOOL\STFREP,WPD 'f EXHIBIT "A" 5 -- LuCATION tv,AP SHOPPES OF WOOLBRIGHT. f. -='- .r- ,...t.. -- : r . · _' ~_. ' I~. if 'j : /. . U - '- " I UJ } . , ". . '; 1 f .. : .' . .' ~. ---: . : R : e 1 C , I , t REC J -,.J r-= ---""'=, uj' IRa- n,~:.a-;,aLF_;:r.Il!1 ..,. 0' 1/8 nil/I, ",... - EXHIBIT "B" 1 ,-; , jr-G-o !:"'"'~ i cnr;; ~~x :Om ~ ~ " o~ !~ ~ '.Z2 15 (1 (1 :r ".X-i Z"" -l>r- ~11 ~rn y c: o "'~ >l- x ,.. ~ ~ . ~.. <2 "" :I~ ,> ~ ..x; ~;1 <2 ~;; ~ ~~ '" ...~ ,.... ~~ ~6 i~ a~ M U ~iJ ..i a,. x% ...0 \( ". >~ ::liP i~ "0 ..x ll", ~} 0_ . i i c i O. '" ~ ~ " ') " ~ " '! '0 i:: " '" -:> 0 c % a- t> .. -.......... X " ~ ... '-.... \, " '-.... .. ... 0 ~ ~z " i: rg ;tm ,C - 0 ./'"' - ,~ !4~:IS ~ - .. rn:l ;;0 <i i.... 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Reference sign locations by dimension to property lines. Chap.21, Art.I, Sec.5B & C, pg. 21-1, 2. Designate tenants for all ground signs. Chap.21, Art.l, Sec.5K, pg.21-3. 3. Provide justification for proposing more than one pylon sign for Home Depot. Chap.21, Art.IV, Sec.3B, pg.21-17. 4. Provide justification for proposing additional ground signs on Parcel 3. Chap.21, Art.IV, Sec.3G, pg.21-17, 5. Walmart and Discount Auto signs are limited to 64 sq. ft. Chap.21, Art. IV, Sec.2B, pg.21-16. 6. Reader board for Burger King must be part of ground sign subject to code specified maximum size. Chap.21, Art.IV, Sec.2D, pg.21-16. 7. Show colors, lettering types, logos. Chap.9, Sec.101, pg.9-5. 8. RaceTrac wall sign is limited to code specified maximum size. Chap.21, Art.lV, c:::"",.?r nn ?i_if> PARKS AND RECREATION - . NONF FORESTER/ENVIRONMENTALIST Comments: 9. The applicant shall identify any existing trees which may be affected by the , nf thp ~inn~ PLANNING AND ZONING Comments: 10. Provide a clear identification system correlating the table of contents with the submitted sheets. All cross-references included in the project shall be made in reference to the sheet code as identified in the table of content. 11. On the site plan. sheet 2 of 9, distinguish locations of existing and proposed sians. Page 2 Shoppes of Woolbright PC File No. MSPM 96-005 ign Program I DEPARTMENTS I INCLUDE I REJECT I 12. No business identification (sign copy) was submitted for the monument sign proposed for the northernmost portion of Parcel "C". Provide a note on the master plan that the approval of this sign is limited to location only. A subsequent submittal of the sign copy shall meet the conditions (regarding color and helvetica letter style) of this sign program approval, otherwise a future revised sign program (Major Site Plan Modification) will have to be submitted for review and approval by the City Commission. 13. On sheet 5 of 9, specifications for typical store signs are laid out. Clarify in which locations these typical store signs are to apply. 14. All signs proposed must meet the minimum setback requirements of 10 feet. On the master plan include all required setbacks. Also, provide colored elevation drawings of the missing sign elevations for Burger King and Discount Auto at the Planning and Development Board meeting with color samples of all materials to be used in manufacturing and constructing the signs. 15. City's LDR. Chapter 9 - Community Design Plan allows only two (2) colors, (except for white and black) to be used for signs in shopping centers. On the site plan, sheet 2 of 9 include a tabular summary of all colors proposed for the signage in this development. Mark with an asterisk colors already approved by the City Commission. 16. If colored elevations of all proposed signs, as required by the LDR, Chapter 4, Section D are not submitted for the Planning and Development Board meeting, it is recommended that the elevations go back before the Commission as a future site plan approval, prior to application for permit. 17. Chapter 9 of the LOR, Community Design Plan, Section 10.1.2 requires that a single sign style shall be used for wall signage on all buildings on the site signs are predominately channel. Therefore comply with this requirement of the city code or file an application for a Community Design Plan appeal from this code provision. 18. Chapter 9 of the LDR, Community Design Plan, Section 10.1.8 allows only one lettering style, in addition to the lettering styles of the nationally registered copy, to be used by all tenants/outparcel owners in the PCD. Signs are currently helvetica. Comply with this requirement of the city code or file an application for a Community Design Plan appeal from this code provision. (Burger King's letter style must be changed. No letter style information was submitted for the remaining uses.) 19. For the Home Depot property, two pylon signs are shown along the frontage of Woolbright Road, approximately 220 feet apart. The sign code allows only one freestanding sign for Home Depot, on the Home Depot property, therefore pylon signs shall be limited to one. No business identification (sign copy) was submitted for the easternmost sign. Provide a note on the master plan that the approval of this sign is limited to location only. 20. Submit a rectified master plan for the Shoppes of Wo()lbright PCD showing compliance with the conditions of all previous approvals, prior to permits being issued for signage approved with this request. 21. All monument signs shall provide appropriate, unobstructed cross-visibility at all points of access as described in LOR, Chapter 7.5, Article II, Section 5.H. 22. Two freestanding (one pylon and one monument) signs are proposed on the Burger King property. The sign code allows only one freestanding sign for Burger King. Therefore, freestanding signs shall be limited to one. Since there are pylon signs existing and proposed along Woolbright Road, it is recommended that Burger King's sign be located along S.W. 8th Street and not Woolbright Road to minimize the number of signs in the short distance between S.W. 8th and 1-95 along Woolbright Road. 23. Submit a rectified master plan for the Shoppes of Woolbright PCD, showing compliance with the conditions of all previous approvals, prior to issuance of anv further buildinQ permits within the PCD. Page 3 Shop pes of Woolbright PC File No. MSPM 96-005 ign Program DEPARTMENTS INCLUDE REJECT 24. Since at this time it is unknown whether the remainder of the PCD will be developed as one large commercial use or multiple stores within a shopping center arrangement, a revised sign program application shall be submitted in the future simultaneously with a site plan application for the remainder of the PCD, to provide details for store wall signage (in-line tenants), if this type of use is oroposed in the future. 25. It is recommended that all monument signs (including RaceTrac, Burger King, Discount Auto and future parcel tenants) be designed to match the monument sign proposed for RaceTrac and that the size of monument signs be four feet hinh hv ""inht fp."t Innn -- L_.~ . hinh h::lC:p ADDITIONAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD CONDITIONS 26. Delete #3. 27. Delete #4. 28. Delete #13. 29. Delete #15. 30. Reword #18 as follows: Chapter 9 of the LDR, Community Design Plan, Section 10.1.8 allows only one lettering style, in addition to the lettering styles of the nationally registered copy, to be used by all tenants/outparcel owners in the PCD. Signs are currently helvetica. Comply with this requirement of the city code or file an application for a Community Design Plan appeal from this code provision. (Burger King's letter style must be changed unless the lettering is a registered trademark. No letter style information was submitted for the remaining uses.) 31. Reword #20 as follows: Submit a rectified master plan for the Shoppes of Woolbright PCD showing compliance with the conditions of all previous approvals, prior to platting of Discount Auto (parcel 2). ADDITIONAL CITY COMMISSION CONDITIONS 32. To be determined. Jl:bme d:\WOOLPCD,\l\lPD PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT MEMORANDUM NO. 96-491 TO: TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS Carrie Parker, City Manager Bob Eichorst, Public Works Director AI Newbold, Building Division Ken Hall, Department of Development William Cavanaugh, Fire Prevention Officer Sgt. Marlon Harris, Police Department John Wildner, Parks Superintendent Kevin Hallahan, Forester/Environmentalist Clyde "Skip" Milor, Utilities Chief Field Insp. Mike Haag, Planning & Zoning Department William Hukill, Development Department FROM: Tambri J. Heyden, AICP Planning & Zoning Director DA TE: October 2, 1996 SUBJECT: Administration Technical Review Committee Meeting - Tuesday, October 8, 1996. On October 8, 1996, a staff-only meeting will be held to discuss the projects below in the 2nd Floor Conference Room, Room 201, Mangrove Park School. 1. Old Business None 2. New Business A. Master Plan Modification: 1. PROJECT: Citrus Glen PUD LOCATION: Southeast corner of Lawrence Road and Miner Road DESCRIPTION: Request for a reduction in the non-zero side setback from fifteen (15) feet to ten (10) feet to construct a screen enclosure (with screen roof), jacuzzi, spa or pool. NOTE: As previously stated in Planning and Zoning Department Memorandum No. 96-486, written comments are to be returned to the Planning and Zoning Director no later than 5:00 P.M., Friday October 11,1996. a Major Site Plan Modification: 1. PROJECT: Shoppes of Woolbright PCD LOCATION: North side of the intersection of Woolbright Road and S.W. 8th Street. DESCRIPTION: Request for approval to modify the approved sign program to include freestanding and wall signage for outparcels and main building tenant(s). Page 2 Administrative TRC October 8, 1996 NOTE: C. Master Plan: 1. PROJECT: LOCATION: DESCRIPTION: NOTE: 2. PROJECT: LOCATION: DESCRIPTION: NOTE: D. Conditional Use Application: 1. PROJECT: LOCATION: AGENT: OWNER: DESCRI PTION: NOTE: 4. Other Business None 5. Comments by members 6. Adjournment a"ADTRC108 wpd As previously stated in Planning and Zoning Department Memorandum No. 96-492, written comments are to be returned to the Planning and Zoning Director no later than 5:00 P.M., Tuesday October 15, 1996. Boynton Festive Center Northwest corner of Congress Avenue and Old Boynton Road Request to waive the master plan approval process regarding subdividing the existing 10.11 acre Boynton Festive Center site into two (2) separate tracts of land. Written comments are to be returned to the Planning and Zoning Director no later than 5:00 P.M., Friday, October 11, 1996. Orchard Landing East side of U.S. 1 approximately 185 feet south of the intersection of U.S. 1 and Golf Road (S.E. 23rd Avenue). Request to approve a master plan to subdivide a 2 acre parcel into three lots for single-family homes. Written comments are to be returned to the Planning and Zoning Director no later than 5:00 P.M., October 11,1996. ITV Tower 505 South Congress Avenue Agustin A. Hernandez The School District of Palm Beach County Palm Beach County School Board Request for co-locating telecommunication equipment (satellite dish) on an existing tower. As previously stated in Planning and Zoning Department Memorandum No. 96-496, written comments are to be returned to the Planning and Zoning Director no later than 5:00 P.M., Monday October 14, 1996. 1 G- I 1 - 1 996 4.: 4.5P~1 FPO~.1 LAKE WORiH ORA I !\lACE 56 ~ 495 9694 PI ~'J1J1 ~ m WI rn rn 8/l8td d SUIl""II0/5 .~ ~-= I. WNtwar1h !II SeeoMy~ WillIaM G. ~ ............, " S. WMe:lhIw1 Altern.,. Ptl'ry & SQllone. P A OCT I 1 LAKE WORTH DRAINAGE DISTRICT ~~ October 15, 1!OS1 MILITARY TRAIL OELAAY SEAC.... FLORIOA 33484 Tambri J. Heyden, AlCP Director Planning and Zoning City ot" Boynton Beach P.O. Box 310 Boynton Beach. FL 33425-0310 Dear Ms. Heyden; Subj<<t: Technic;:al Review Committee A&eDda The Lake Worth Drainage District offers the following comments regarding the item(s) on the October 15, 1996 meeting agenda: .$ S;~~)h 1. Citrus Glen, PUD - No objection. ~ 2. Shoppes of Woolbright. POD. No objection. However, a drainage review will be required prior to construction. 3. Boynton Festive Center - No objection. 4. ITV Tower. No objection. 5. East Ridge (3rd Review) - Not in L WOO service area. 6. Woolbright Place Pla.t 2 - Preliminary Review - Would like copy of plat prior to commenting. As always. we thank you for being given the opportWlity to comment. Sincerely. LAKE WORlH DRAINAGE DISTRICT 1::i:~ Chief Inspector SJW Imfb c: Ronald L. Crone. P.E., P.L.S.. Assistant Manager, L WDn Patrick A. Martin. P.E., District Engineer. L WDD Oetray 8Mllh & Ilcc:a Rum ....5383 . BoynfDl'l e.cn & WMl Pa/nl BMcIl r.J7.38SS . FAX (4C7) .....~ S\L~ 'The City of 'Boynton 13eac/i 100 'E. 13oynton 13eadi 130ukvara P.O. 1307(310 13oynton 13eadi, 1lorilfa 33425-0310 City:Jla[[: (4fJ7) 375-60()(} 1'5U: (4fJ7) 375-6090 September 27, 1996 Basehart and Cottrell, Inc. 1532 Old Okeechobee Road, Suite 101 West Palm Beach, Florida 33409 Attn: Anna Cottrell RE: ., (r .\ h~ L ) The Shoppes of Woolbright PCD - File No. MSPM 96-005 \ \\~.)L . Acceptance - Site Plan Review Application & Submittal Documents Major Site Plan Modification (Sign Program) Dear Anna Cottrell: On September 25, 1996, your submittal for Site Plan Review of the above-referenced project was reviewed for completeness. It has been determined that the submittal is substantially complete and accepted for further processing. Jerzy Lewicki within the department will be reviewing and coordinating your application through the remainder of the Site Plan Review process and can be contacted if you have questions. The next step in the review process is for the Technical Review Committee to review the submittal for compliance with the review standards identified in Part III, Land Development Regulations, Chapter 4, Site Plan Review, Section 8 and all applicable sections of the Boynton Beach Code of Ordinances. The Technical Review Committee (TRC) will meet on October 8, 1996 to discuss the first review comments. The results of the review will be available to you on October 22, 1996. The request will be presented to the Planning and Development Board on November 12, 1996, with the final determination made by the City Commission on November 19,1996. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me at (561) 375-6260. Very truly yours, . ( . , I' I . !_.......l/~l_ ...Lr _" - . , -, i. t.. \/.._.~.C{ i, ,-'--""- > , / Tambri J. Heyden, AICP Planning and Zoning Director T JH:bme a:ACL 1WOOL.wpd 51me,ua's (jateway to tfu (julfstream fJJie City of 'Boynton r.Beacli 100 'E. 'Boynton 'Bead.. 'Boulevartf P.O. 'Bo:c.310 'Boynton 'Bead.., 1'!oritfa 33425-0310 City:Jla[[: (407) 375-6()()() 1'!7lX: (407) 375-6090 "~/' June 21, 1996 Mr. Michael Morton 902 Clint Moore Road, Suite 124 Boca Raton, Florida 33487 RE: RaceTrac at Shoppes of Woolbright PCD - sign application Dear Mr. Morton: I have been informed that your agent, Pat Lentini with Basehart and Cottrell, has submitted a sign application for approval of signs for RaceTrac only within the Shoppes of Woolbright PCD, without a revised PCD sign program. At the May 14, 1996 City Commission meeting (see attached minutes), the Commission approved the Cracker Barrel sign, even though a revised PCD sign program had not been submitted, with the understanding that you would submit a revised sign program when you knew what signs the next tenant (now RaceTrac) wanted. In addition, the RaceTrac signs submitted indicate additional colors (navy blue, red, yellow and white) not part of the current sign program (orange, brown, gold and beige). It was stated at the May 14th meeting that blue would be eliminated which is in conflict with your application. Therefore, what is the status of your revised PCD sign program submittal? The current application will be held until this matter is resolved. Sincerely, ;; 12.~ l a.A,,1-u' f[., t..4.-f '----- Carrie Parker City Manager CP:tjh:dim Enclosure 1 xc: Tambri Heyden, Planning and Zoning Director Pat Lentini, Basehart & Cottrell, Inc. Jlm.erica's (jateway to tfu (julfstream MINUTESOFlHE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING H~ IN" COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, BOYNTON BEAdH, FLORIDA, ON TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1996, AT 6:00 P.M. '-_ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~1 ~ \ID\ .. '. ::~.: pi ~~~:WiG pm 7'-l~:.q~~G llrp1 ...;...-...-." PRESENT Gerald "Jerry" Taylor, Mayor Shirley Jaskiewicz, Vice Mayor Matthew Bradley, Commissioner Henderson Tillman, Commissioner Jamie Titcomb, Commissioner Carrie Parker, City Manager Michael Pawelczyk, Assistant City Attorney Sue Kruse, City Clerk CALL TO ORDER Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz called the meeting to order at 6:04 p.m. for the purpose of considering the sign plans request for Cracker Barrel Old Country Store. She announced that Mayor Taylor has been delayed. She asked to hear from the applicant first. Louis Campanile with eCl Consultants was present on behalf of Cracker Barrel. He introduced Michael Morton, who represented the owner of the property, and Jerry Handshuh, a representative of Cracker Barrel. Mr. Campanile advised that Cracker Barrel is requesting an off-premise sign on 1-95 (45 feet high, with an area of 149 or 150 square feet), two on-site signs (one of which is practically the same sign as the one on 1-95), and a wall sign (13 feet by 17 fest high). All these signs contain Cracker Barrel's standard logo. Tambri Heyden, Director of Planning and Zoning, stated that Cracker Barrel is proposing one 91 square foot wall sign on the center of the east facade. This is going to be an externally illuminated cabinet sign. The sign colors (brown, yellow, and beige) are shown on the elevations. They are the typical colors that are associated with their corporate logo. They are proposing one site sign on their parcel, the size of which is 149 square feet It is a pole sign located near the southeast corner of the site. That pole sign is proposed to be 45 feet tall. It is an externally illuminated sign cabinet with the same colors and sign face. Pursuant to a previous settlement agreement, there will be an off-premise pole sign. However, the City does not have any information regarding the size, content, or location of that sign. . . Ms. Heyden explained that sign programs are required for aU peDs to encourage continuity between the uses within the PCDs. A sign program was approved for this MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14, 1996 PCD in 1990. It included one tree standing sign (150 square feet), which currently exists, to identify multi tenants. Right now it has the Home Depot sign on it, and it is an internally illuminated sign cabinet. Two monument signs (8 feet tall by 55 feet long) were also part of that sign program. Tney were not illuminated. The colors were royal blue. The letter style is Helvetica Medium. These signs have not been constructed. For the additional uses that have not been constructed yet on the east and west sides of S.W. 8th Street, the same royal blue color scheme, intemaDy illuminated or back lit channel letters was approved. The letter style is Helvetica Medium. There was also a signage size that went into place at that time. There were also the Home Depot wall signs which exists. The site plan that was approved recently included a condition regarding signs and a sign program. That sign program has not been turned in. Us. Heyden pointed out that the signs for Racetrac have not been approved yet either. She felt this was an . opportunity to set the tone for what we want to see in terms of the rest of the signs for the project. - ) Since we did not have a modified comprehensive sign program for this project, we have looked at this in terms of the Community Design Plan and that prompted the chart in Exhibit D that compares the Cracker Barrel sign age, the Shoppes of Woolbright signage, the Sign Code, and the Community Design Plan. Ms. Heyden reviewed staffs recommendations. With regard to the off-premise sign, staff needs to see the information regarding the size, content, and location. Commissioner Bradley asked how Ms. Heyden was categorizing the off-premise sign. Ms. Heyden said she was referring to the 1-95 sign only. That sign has already been approved by a separate agreement. However, staff cannot locate the exhibits for the agreement that pinned down the design and location of the sign. City Manager Parker said that attachment was the preliminary sign plan that Mr. Morton had tumed in previously. She asked him if he has an extra copy of it. Mr. Morton answered affirmatively and showed the Commission the exhitit to the agreement. City Manager Parker stated that the dimensions, location, etc. of that sign have already 2 -.--------- MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTONBEACH,FLORUOA MAY 14,1996 been approved, so they just have to meet that approval. Forty-five feet was part of the sett\ement agreement, so we really need to concentrate on the on-site signage. Ms. Heyden advised that the proposed wall signage is generally acceptable. However, the fogo, the color of the sign copy t and the style of the sign are in conflict with the sign program and the Community Design Plan. The Cracker Barrel signs propose brown sign copy. The sign copy for the PCD sign program shows blue, and royal blue signs already exist. (The main shopping center sign located at the northeast corner of 8th and Woolbright Road is royal blue.) It is a stand-alone sign at least 64 square feet and about 20 or 25 feet up in the air. Staff recommends that the sign style be changed from a cabinet to channel letters and that the lighting be changed from external lighting to either internally illuminated or back lit. Staff recommends that the 45 toot tall pole sign on the property be reduced in height and that the type of the sign be changed to a monument sign. Right now, they are proposing a 45 foot tall sign, 149 square feet in size, with a corporate logo on it. Staff recommends that it be replaced with one monument sign 8 feet tall. Staff also recommends that the monument sign be mounted on a sign base with a minimum height of 2 feet, that the color and material of the sign base match the walls of the main building, and that the size of the monument sign not exceed 64 square feet. With regard to the freestanding sign on the site, Ms. Heyden asked for direction '\ regarding the rest of the sign program when it comes in. She suggested that the rest of ) the signs for the out uses be monument signs.. . At:ommissioner Bradley's request, Ms. Heyden described the difference between a monument sign and a pole sign. At this time, Mayor Taylor arrived Ms. Heyden stated that many of the sign codes that are developed recognize monument signs as a more attractive way of dealing with freestanding signs, and monument signs have been found to be just as effective for sign -ed#icattGfr.- i l7 Commissioner Bradley asked jf the sign on the northeast comer is the main sign for the pee. Ms. Heyden answered affirmatively. She stated that it identifies the Shoppes of Woolbright and also provides for tenant signage. Right now, Home Depot is the only 3 _.~_._._---,._----------_. MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14, 1996 tenant. However, there is space on that sign for other tenants that come in, including Cracker Barrel. It is a freestanding sign. Commissioner Bradley did not think it would look right if the sign on the inside of the shopping center or the PCD is bigger than the sign advertising the shopping center. He felt the 64 square foot sign is the way to go. Mr. Campanile believes the impetus to having a 45 foot tall, 150 square foot sign is the location off of 1-95. 1-95 is pretty elevated. The sign on 1-95 just says "Exit Woolbright Road". The people do not know whether to go west or east after they exit 1-95. Once they exit 1-95, this sign will help them find Cracker Barrel without having to go back and forth. Commissioner Bradley thought the sign was supposed to indicate "east" or "west". He said the addendum to the settlement agreement, at the bottom of Part A, says "Exit #--J West". Mr. Morton said that was what it was allowed to say. City Manager Parker stated that the Commission discussed what they wanted to see on the 1-95 sign, and the language that is in the settlement agreement is the language the Commission agreed to at that time. The sign in the packet submitted by Cracker Barrel says "EXIT WOOLBRIGHT ROm on one side. On the other side it says "THIS EXrr. Therefore, they have not chosen to follow the details of the settlement agreement. Unless the Commission directs otherwise, we were going to direct them to change the wording on this sign. As Commissioner Bradley recalls, the sentiment of the Commission at that time was to alleviate as much directional signage as possible. However, a compromise was reached and we allowed the words "east" or "west" to be on the sign. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz and City Manager Parker recal/ed allowing them to put the exit number on the sign, as well as the words "east" or "west", depending on if it was the north or south elevation. She presumed that Cracker Barrel is not in agreement with that since they have submitted something different. Commissioner Bradley said if a person is heading south on 1-95 and the sign said "west", that would tell them which direction to turn on Woolbright Road when they get off 1-95. 4 ---------- i\ITh1JTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14, 1996 Mr. Morton said if they exit on Woolbright Road, they are going to come up the ramp and see the commercial property to the right, and their natural instinct would be to turn right When they come off the ramp and are at the light, they will see Home Depot off to the side. They will see it is a commercial center, and they will tum right. The next thing they are going to see is the Cracker Barrel sign and the Cracker Barrel Restaurant as tr:ey go down the ramp towards the landing area of the overpass. He agreed that the wiginal agreement states that they could put the exit number on the sign. He asswned they took the liberty of putting" EXIT WOOLBRIGHT ROAO' on the sign. City Manager Parker explained that part of the problem we had that was discussed at that time was that the current sign code does not allow a 45 foot pylon sign on site. Themaximum sign allowed would be 20 feet. With the maximum variance, the sign could be 25 feet. Another issue was the number of pylon signs on the property. This is why staff suggested a monument sign as opposed to another pylon sign. However, she was not sure that people would be able to see a 20 foot sign from the 1-95 intersection. She stated that directions were aUowed on the 1-95 sign to eliminate another pylon sign to draw people into the site. Mayor Taylor stated that "west" or 8east" on this sign may confuse people. They might think there are two exits. He felt people will normally turn right when they get off 1-95 and if they do not see Cracker Banel, they will turn around. Mr. Handshuh stated that this would not be kind to our elderly clientele. He advised that about 50 or 60 percent of their clientele are elderly and he stated that the elderly get amtused easily. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz felt the builcing itself will be visible. She was concerned about the pyton sign. She pointed out that we have set a precedent with permitting the one pylon sign. She was extremely concerned that if we permit a pylon sign on the property. everybody else that goes in there will want one, and other areas of the City will want them too. Mr. Handshuh said the reason Cracker Barrel is requesting this is because the building is hidden behind Racetrac, and theywant all potential customers to find them without confusion. Being hidden on the second lot back from Woolbright Road gives them quite a distinct disad~antage. ' 5 .----- MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14,1996 Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz felt that once you get to Racetrac, the building itself will be extremely visible because the street is wide. Commissioner Titcomb agreed. He stated that coming off 1-95 you can see over Home Depot, and as you come back down on the western approach, you would not be physically behind Racetrac until you passed 8th Street. Mr. Morton pointed out that right now there are no structures on the outparcel. When there are, they will block that view somewhat. Also, if you are traveling east towards 1-95 from the west, you are not going to see Cracker Barrel because of the eye clinic and Racetrac. Also, they are putting up a landscape berm along the west side, so there are some considerations to try to get some height and allow them to be identifiable. Commissioner Bradley stated that the other sign that is going to let people know that Cracker Barrel is there is the PCD sign that is right there at the intersection. Mr. Morton _ stated that the PCD sign at the intersection has" Shoppes of Woolbright Place" on it. That is what has been approved. The reason he never put the signs in is twofold. One was that if he had tenants that had different colors than navy blue, he did not want to end up having navy blue, red, orange, and brown, and so that he 'could change the colors on the Shoppes of Woolbright Place sign to conform more to a theme of colors within the PCD at a later date when the tenants are in place. Secondly, it is an identifying monument for the center; it is not for a particular user. He was pretty sure they will remain "Shoppes of Woolbright Place" at this time. The only variation would be in the color. Mayor Taylor agreed with Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz that we have already made a concession by allowing the tall sign on 1-95. He pointed out that there is a Cracker Barrel in Stuart just before you get to 1-95 on Indiantown Road that has a small sign at the entrance, and he found it. He pointed out that many people do not know west from east when they are on the roaet He felt that if you get off 1-95 to go to Cracker Barrel, you are going to find it. With regard to the 91 square foot wall sign and the change in the colors, Vice Mayor had no objection to the logo colors. She felt those colors are more consistent with the building. Commissioner BFadley asked how many signs are royal blue at this time. Mr. Morton said there are no royal blue signs on the project. He explained that in 1990, he had no idea what might be there, except for Home Depot, and this was the color that was 6 MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION 1\-IEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA ~1A Y 14, 1996 approved. It was an architectural sign designer's choice. However, he was flexible on changing that to a more suitable color which is more agreeable to the tone of the center. Commissioner Bradley felt that the gold in Cracker Barrel, the orange in Home Depot, and the earth tone in Vinings would fit into a range of colors. Ms. Heyden agreed. /"~ Commissioner Bradley suggested eliminating the blue color. Ms. Heyden pointed out that the existing main project sign (the Shoppes of Woolbright >.. sign) is blue. Mr. Morton hopes to change that sign in the future. He is going to try to upgrade it when the major tenants come in for the vacant parcel. Mr. Handshuh pointed out that nationwide. Cracker Barrel does not have a single blue sign. The sign that they use is their national toga. Mr. Morton said he spoke to Mr. Handshuh about this earlier and told him that he felt the 45 foot sign on site would be a problem. Mr. Morton thinks he could get . Mr. Handshuh to agree to lower it to 25 feet, if the Commission agrees to this. Mr. Morton said he is trying to get the whole pylon changed. He is working with Home Depot now to try to change the sign program. That sign is old and should be updated. He thinks Home Depot would be amendable to this. Also, Racetrac is coming in with their sign program. This will provide an opportunity to get them to move into a color theme as well. When that is resolved, Mr. Morton will come back with the pylon sign, his new big box tenant, and change the royal blue on the wall signs. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz asked if it would be totally inconsistent with our sign code if we were to allow a smaJl Cracker Barrel sign to identify the area where you enter the property. Commissioner Bradley pointed out that there is going to be room for that on the sign. Mr. Morton said he is trying to revise that whole sign. Cracker Barrel wanted a stand-alone with their own signage. He wanted to change that sign because he has entered into an agreement to hopefully get approved a big user on the remaining parcel. Therefore, he changed the pylon sign arrangement along Woof.bright Road. However, he had nothing to accurately report to the Commission right now. With regard to the wall sign, staff recommended changing the sign style from cabinet to channel letters, and changing the external fighting to either internally illuminating or back lit. Commissioner Bradley asked if the purpose of this is to reduce light pollution. ., I ~_...._~._---~~-- l\nNUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14, 1996 Ms. Heyden stated that that is a very minor concern. She was really looking for continuity. The signs that are there right now are internally illuminated, not externally illuminated. Mr. Morton said they are trying to match the Home Depot sign, which is not really what he wants to do. Commissioner Jaskiewicz pointed out that the front of the building will face Home Depot, not a neighborhood. Ms. Heynen advised that the chances of another user coming into the center and having external lighting on their sign is very slim. You hardly ever see that. Commissioner Bradley could accept the external illuminating, especially if there is going to be a monument sign that will be externally illuminated. He would like to see an 8 foot monument sign on the site instead of the 45 foot tall sign because he thinks there is sufficient signage. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz agreed. This was not acceptable to Mr. Handshuh. He said Cracker Barrel does not have any monument signs anywhere in the country. He was trying to clearly establish to the traffic on Woolbright Road exactly where Cracker Barrel is so people will not have difficulty and will not have to make a U-turn. Commissioner Bradley pointed out that there is space on the PCD sign on the corner to advertise Cracker Barrel. Mr. Morton said it is not set up that way. It is strictly set up to say .Shoppes of Woolbright". Commissioner Bradley thought the spaces underneath were empty. Mr. Morton said that is the Home Depot sign. Ms. Heyden stated that those spaces are not being used right now. Home Depot has all the signage that they have been approved for. Commissioner Bradley stated that Cracker Barrel can use that space at the intersection for signage. 'Peopte will be able to see that from 200 feet away and know that that is the intersection for Cracker Barrel. Mr. Handshuh asked if the Commission would allow a 25 foot pole sign. He advised that his senior management insists on the national signage that they have everywhere in the country. Ms. Heyden advised that this would require a variance. City Manager Parker advised that the Commission could approve a 20 foot pole sign this evening, and we could start the process for the variance. City Manager Parker explained that the code does not set forth the number of signs allowed in PCDs. Developers are asked to bring in a sign package for the entire PCD. The sign package for this PCD was approved several years ago. However, the PCD looks entirely different today than what the sign package was approved for. That sign ( 8 --------- MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14, 1996 package has never been changed and is totally useless at this point. Mr. Morton has been requested to bring in a new sign package. He does not have any tenants yet, so he has been stalling until he has tenants so that he knows what the sign package is going to look like. We have an applicant ready to go and staff has nothing to compare it to because the approved sign package is ludicrous at this point because it does not fit anything. With regard to PCDs, the City Commission has the discretion on how they want the whole process to look, how many pylon signs they want on the whole parcel, how many monument signs, etc. This is usually done at the beginning or halfway through the project. At this point, the Home Depot and Shoppes of Woolbright sign is there now. Cracker Barrel is asking for a pylon sign. We do not know what Racetrac or the other tenants want yet. Mr. Morton is going to put that together in a total sign package. If the Commission does not want any more pylons, she suggested they give her that direction at this point so staff can work with Mr. Morton to put a sign package together. Otherwise, Burger King, Racetrac, and others will probably have pylon signs. Commissioner Bradley asked how tall the Shoppes of Woolbright sign is. Mr. Morton said it is 35 feet high. Ms. Heyden estimated it to be 30 feet. She said this is whatthe sign code allowed before sign heights in the City were reduced to 20 feet. Motion Commissioner Bradley moved that we approve the sign site plan for Cracker Barrel subject to staff comments, including approval of the wall sign as submitted, externally illuminated and the size that they have requested, and that the pole sign on site would be a 64 square toot, 20 foot high pole sign. and that the pylon signs on 1-95 show "THIS EXIT THEN RIGHT and · EXIT WOOLBRIGHT ROAO' and that the addendum be changed to reflect that change. Mayor Taylor seconded the motion for the purpose of discussion. Mayor Taylor asked if 64 square feet was corract. Ms. Heyden advised that Cracker Barrel is requesting 149 square feet. Commissioner Bradley had a problem with that because the PCD sign that announces the entrance to the whole area is 64 square feet, and he felt it would look ridiculous to put a sign in there twice as big as that. Mr. Morton stated the entrance sign, the Home Depot sign. is over 150 feet. For purposes of comparison, Ms. Heyden advised the Commission of what is allowed in other uses in other zoning districts. A freestanding restaurant wOuld be allowed a 9 -"._----- MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14,1996 maximum of 64 square feet on a freestanding SVt. A shopping center would be allowed 120. Commissioner Bradley stated that we have to take into consideration that we are reviewing the sign code. There has been discussion about having people change their existing signs in the future. He said we are going against the standard and the tradition that is currently in place. He felt it needs to be a 64 square foot sign. Commissioner Tillman agreed. He thinks we need something compatible and useful for the area. He felt large signs would dominate properties and all the tenants will want them. Mr. Campanile pointed out that this Cracker Barrel Restaurant is a four acre site. Home Depot is about 15 or 20 acres, and Burger King would be about one acre. So, this is not a small site. It is a pretty good size site. Vice Mayor Jaskiewicz mentioned that she has seen several Cracker Barrels and they had varying size signs. The motion carried 5-0. City Manager Parker clarified that the colors of the whole center will now reflect the tan, \. orange, and brown motif, and that the blue will be eiminated. ? Mr. Morton advised that an application will be filed for the five foot variance. The color \... theme will be orange and red, and dark blues and greens will be eliminated. / City Manager Parker asked for the Commission's feetings towards additional pylon > signs. The Commission indicated that they would like monument signs instead. Mr. Morton advised that he is waiting for Burger King's plans for the front outparcel. Discount Auto and the third user in the outparceJ do not need pylon signs. However, Burger King tTadffionally has a pylon sign. He stated that he is entitled to one more pylon sign, but he is saving it for the big box user. Mayor Taylor suggested that Mr. Morton do his best to get Burger King to agree to a monument sign. 10 ~- ----~-_..~----_.. MINUTES SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA MAY 14, 1996 ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the City Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 7:00 p.m. ATTEST: City Clerk L- LA~ I 4r- Recording Secretary (Two Tapes) . . CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH A",---- . .~'~y~L~( \/ ~~.~;.~' Mayor f ' - ~-~ A/~' Commissioner ~ ~ Q- ComlTllSSioner ~ :q ~~2L Co issioner 11